Let's hypothesize what a "god" actually is

[hobelim]

The authors of the stories of the Old Testament invented an angry, wrathful god. The authors of the New Testament introduced psychology.

Hey, if you were herding goats and minding your own business 6,000 years ago and right out of the blue a meteor slammed into the middle of the Indian Ocean and wiped every coastal and many inland civilizations off the map, it would seem that someone up there somewhere was pretty pissed off.

true...but as with all unexpected events the facts emerge later...

Exactly. But so what if right now it seems rational to assume that it was simply a naturally explainable event, no god required, but what actually happened was not a hallucination, and who can say if one day it will be discovered as a fact that some superior intelligence intentionally knocked something out of the asteroid belt directly in our direction?

whatever is discovered to be the ultimate truth I can hardly blame the survivors of what undoubtedly was a mind boggling end of the world disaster for feeling favored by and developing beliefs and practices trying to appease this same angry God.

 

[Youwerecreated]

If we allow for deities to literally exist, then they must have an orign and backstory.

You are basing this off the limited laws of man.

 

[daws101]

If we allow for deities to literally exist, then they must have an orign and backstory.

You are basing this off the limited laws of man.

and you base yours off a false premise...
which makes more sense...?
answer: not yours!

 

[Youwerecreated]

If we allow for deities to literally exist, then they must have an orign and backstory.

You are basing this off the limited laws of man.

and you base yours off a false premise...
which makes more sense...?
answer: not yours!

Even a lot of gents and ladies on your side admit that there are aliens that are more intelligent and possess better technology out there but can't bring themselves to say it may be God.

 

[daws101]

You are basing this off the limited laws of man.

and you base yours off a false premise...
which makes more sense...?
answer: not yours!

Even a lot of gents and ladies on your side admit that there are aliens that are more intelligent and possess better technology out there but can't bring themselves to say it may be God.

we done the fantasy before, you're beating a dead horse again....go play with the other special people!
you must really love the abuse...

 

[Youwerecreated]

If we allow for deities to literally exist, then they must have an orign and backstory.

You are basing this off the limited laws of man.

and you base yours off a false premise...
which makes more sense...?
answer: not yours!

The false premise that has been thoroughly put to the test that life can arise from non life has been refuted.

Your view on our existence makes less sense then an intelligent creator.

 

[Youwerecreated]

and you base yours off a false premise...
which makes more sense...?
answer: not yours!

Even a lot of gents and ladies on your side admit that there are aliens that are more intelligent and possess better technology out there but can't bring themselves to say it may be God.

we done the fantasy before, you're beating a dead horse again....go play with the other special people!
you must really love the abuse...

Not really, just dropped in to see the king of stupidity still beating the same drum.

 

[BreezeWood]

The spirit world say that God is a formless infinite spirit that has always existed.

Let's hypothesize what a "god" actually is


these are two different subjects, "God is" - "a god"

God is Almighty to all gods.


there are others of purity who are not gods who likewise reside in the Everlasting.

.

 

[daws101]

You are basing this off the limited laws of man.

and you base yours off a false premise...
which makes more sense...?
answer: not yours!

The false premise that has been thoroughly put to the test that life can arise from non life has been refuted.

Your view on our existence makes less sense then an intelligent creator.

only in your masturbation fantasies for both..

 

[daws101]

Even a lot of gents and ladies on your side admit that there are aliens that are more intelligent and possess better technology out there but can't bring themselves to say it may be God.

we done the fantasy before, you're beating a dead horse again....go play with the other special people!
you must really love the abuse...

Not really, just dropped in to see the king of stupidity still beating the same drum.

looking in a mirror are we?

 

[theword]

The spirit world say that God is a formless infinite spirit that has always existed.

Let's hypothesize what a "god" actually is


these are two different subjects, "God is" - "a god"

God is Almighty to all gods.


there are others of purity who are not gods who likewise reside in the Everlasting.

.

Our Creator is invisible and so is His creation. Man doesn't understand this yet but they are getting close by the observations of physicists. We saints know for sure how we were created but most people reject our testimonies because we never had to study to get our information from our Creator.

 

[hobelim]

You are basing this off the limited laws of man.

and you base yours off a false premise...
which makes more sense...?
answer: not yours!

The false premise that has been thoroughly put to the test that life can arise from non life has been refuted.

Your view on our existence makes less sense then an intelligent creator.

Ugh,

how can you say that life cannot arise from non life but at the same time insist that Jesus rose to life from the dead?

Make up your mind.

 

[PostmodernProph]

Ugh,

how can you say that life cannot arise from non life but at the same time insist that Jesus rose to life from the dead?

Make up your mind.

I think we ARE consistent.....we consider both the arising of life and the resurrection to be an act of a deity......

 

[Boss]

If we allow for deities to literally exist, then they must have an orign and backstory. They have to have evolved on some planet somewhere in the universe. If your idea of a god is some kind of unexplained spiritual being who popped into existence one day then explain that. If, like me, you think maybe ancient humans encountered beings they couldn't explain (i.e. aliens) and lacking the idea of aliens from another planet took to calling them gods, angels, demons, etc. explain their orign.
.....
Bottom line though is if accounts of gods are to be believed as literal events, then they have to be from somewhere and possess physical bodies, and the technology required to have gotten here from some other star system. Believing in G-d as a ghost of sorts who can simply wish things into reality might well be the case, but isn't much fun to think about since Bewitched and I Dream of Jeanie already kinda covered it.

I'm kind of floored here by your arrogant notions. Consider this for a moment... What if all that man knows and understands as "physical science" or "physics" is the equivalent in universal knowledge to man inventing the wheel? What if we are so far in the dark in terms of comprehending things, that we can't even imagine the principles or technology within this universe?

You see, we humans know what we know, and that's really all we know. I believe there is far more that we don't know and will never know about our universe. We define something we call "physical nature" and develop study around it. We discover principles, rules that apply universally to this thing we've created. But humans have only five senses and those we know are limited. We can only comprehend what our senses allow us to. We cannot rationalize beyond that. If a caveman found a PC, would he have any idea of what it was or how to use it? What about a DVD? Would he understand or comprehend the technology?

Your post illustrates a somewhat naive and simplistic viewpoint based solely in your ability to rationalize what you know. You presume a creator must have been created. You assume that Gods must come from other planets. But most importantly, you seem to have this notion that "existence" can only be as you comprehend, physical in nature. That everything in this entire universe must absolutely follow your understanding of physical law and conform to those dynamics.

Ask yourself a few questions here. Why does gravity exist in our universe? Why do certain particles become electrically charged? What causes some combinations of elements become organic while those very same elements can also be inorganic? What was "existence" before the big bang? How did matter come to exist? You can ponder how things work, develop science around your ideas and understandings, but we have difficulty going beyond that and discovering why things are as they are. Who invented logic? Where does it come from? Was there a time when logic didn't exist in the universe and it suddenly popped into existence one day and things became rational?

Can things exist that you are not aware of? The answer is, of course they can. Your awareness or comprehension of something are not required for it to exist. And existence can include things beyond the physical nature you do comprehend.

 

[Politico]

God is something weak minded people need to believe in to keep them from going nuts. I say thank God for God.

 

[Boss]

God is something weak minded people need to believe in to keep them from going nuts. I say thank God for God.

Actually, it's the other way around. Weak minded people lack the ability to comprehend God and instead, establish their faith in the material world. This is why you generally see more alcoholism and drug addiction, depression and suicide, and assorted other social problems in non-religious people.

 

[daws101]

God is something weak minded people need to believe in to keep them from going nuts. I say thank God for God.

Actually, it's the other way around. Weak minded people lack the ability to comprehend God and instead, establish their faith in the material world. This is why you generally see more alcoholism and drug addiction, depression and suicide, and assorted other social problems in non-religious people.

bullshit,,,,There is no criteria of certain groups of people being more prone to addiction than other groups. A person either has an addictive personality, or they don't.

 

[jodylee]

The giver of life, light and our existence...... THE SUN

 

[jodylee]

The spirit world say that God is a formless infinite spirit that has always existed.

Let's hypothesize what a "god" actually is


these are two different subjects, "God is" - "a god"

God is Almighty to all gods.


there are others of purity who are not gods who likewise reside in the Everlasting.

.

Our Creator is invisible and so is His creation. Man doesn't understand this yet but they are getting close by the observations of physicists. We saints know for sure how we were created but most people reject our testimonies because we never had to study to get our information from our Creator.

sounds polytheistic to me, PAGENS RULE. no really the ruling class are pagens

 

[Boss]

God is something weak minded people need to believe in to keep them from going nuts. I say thank God for God.

Actually, it's the other way around. Weak minded people lack the ability to comprehend God and instead, establish their faith in the material world. This is why you generally see more alcoholism and drug addiction, depression and suicide, and assorted other social problems in non-religious people.

bullshit,,,,There is no criteria of certain groups of people being more prone to addiction than other groups. A person either has an addictive personality, or they don't.

Didn't say certain people are more prone. Studies have been done, cases of alcoholism, drug abuse, depression and suicide, are all more prevalent in people who lack strong spiritual faith as opposed to those who have it. This is why so many rehab programs (like AA) advocate spiritual faith.