Listen to the exact words in the exact books Democrats want in our public school libraries

[jotathought]

That it's origins are in nature.

Translated .. a male / female are born gay

 

[alang1216]

Stop winning the thread.

Thanks but there is no winning if your opposition doesn't recognize it and they never will. "What about Hunter?"

 

[alang1216]

The link is all in their fevered/triggered imaginations.

Repression/envy/homophobia (along with severe mental illness in some cases) is what drives all of this.

"Howcum I couldn't have teenage boy/boy or girl/girl sex???? And now it's too late!!!! I blame the imaginary Marxist pedophiles!"

I think it is more about being sheep, exactly what they accuse the Left of.

 

[hjmick]

Imagine...


A world in which the people looking to ban books took all that energy and put it into knowing what their children were doing and reading and watching instead of insisting that the government act as their baby-sitter...

 

[JoeB131]

They remain mating pairs, whether they can or cannot produce offspring.

Except a lot of them only cohabitate for sex or economic reasons. By your logic, they should only grant marriage status to couples who can and intend to make babies.

Of course, gays can have babies too, through in-vitro fertilization, adoption, or surrogacy.

So by your logic, some people are going to be pedophiles, no matter what their upbringing, after all, pedophilia is just a sexual deviancy, right? Yeah, again, you haven't really thought it through.

NO, it's just a matter of how you treat it. I believe that pedophiles are an actual danger, just like any other severe mental illness, and must be treated as such. As opposed to gay people who can function in society without hurting anyone.

They didn't observe homosexuality(dominance) and even if they did, what they observed was a tiny percentage of species, and what tiny percentage of that species exhibited the supposed behavior? The numbers pale in comparison to anything we see in humans, which begs the question.

A couple of issues. The first is that these animals in the wild weren't under constant observation... just that they saw animals engaging in homosexual acts.

For instance, one study found that when confronted with overcrowding, Mice turned to lesbianism as a survival instinct.

Behavioral Changes Due to Overpopulation in Mice

Previous research has found that if a population were allowed to exceed a comfortable density level, then many catastrophic events occurred such as increased mortality among the young, cannibalism, homosexuality, and lack of maternal functions. The most influential researcher in this area is...

pdxscholar.library.pdx.edu

Why is it vastly more common in humans(100% in reality) than animals and more common in today's humans vs. humans from decades ago?

Genetics don't change that quickly. And no, it is not just because people are more open about it, there are actually more today than there once were. By all means, don't let common sense get in the way of good ole' "scientific", yet ideological, study.

Actually, I suspect it is exactly what you reject. I had an aunt who was a lesbian. But in the 1950's, that meant one of two things in our Catholic community 1) You became a nun and proceeded to torment children or 2) you sucked it up, found a guy who didn't intimidate you too much, and pretended you were happy.

Aunt H. decided on the latter. They separated after a year but never divorced (because, again, Catholics!) and my cousin had issues all of her life. (Mostly promiscuity and substance abuse.)

If it is more common now, it is probably because it is more socially acceptable. It might also be we are looking at a larger version of the mouse expirament, that as we live in a more crowded world, homosexuality kicks in as a defense mechanism against overpopulation.

 

[JoeB131]

Imagine...


A world in which the people looking to ban books took all that energy and put it into knowing what their children were doing and reading and watching instead of insisting that the government act as their baby-sitter...

 

[HeyNorm]

Except a lot of them only cohabitate for sex or economic reasons. By your logic, they should only grant marriage status to couples who can and intend to make babies.

Of course, gays can have babies too, through in-vitro fertilization, adoption, or surrogacy.



NO, it's just a matter of how you treat it. I believe that pedophiles are an actual danger, just like any other severe mental illness, and must be treated as such. As opposed to gay people who can function in society without hurting anyone.


A couple of issues. The first is that these animals in the wild weren't under constant observation... just that they saw animals engaging in homosexual acts.

For instance, one study found that when confronted with overcrowding, Mice turned to lesbianism as a survival instinct.

Behavioral Changes Due to Overpopulation in Mice

Previous research has found that if a population were allowed to exceed a comfortable density level, then many catastrophic events occurred such as increased mortality among the young, cannibalism, homosexuality, and lack of maternal functions. The most influential researcher in this area is...

pdxscholar.library.pdx.edu

Actually, I suspect it is exactly what you reject. I had an aunt who was a lesbian. But in the 1950's, that meant one of two things in our Catholic community 1) You became a nun and proceeded to torment children or 2) you sucked it up, found a guy who didn't intimidate you too much, and pretended you were happy.

Aunt H. decided on the latter. They separated after a year but never divorced (because, again, Catholics!) and my cousin had issues all of her life. (Mostly promiscuity and substance abuse.)

If it is more common now, it is probably because it is more socially acceptable. It might also be we are looking at a larger version of the mouse expirament, that as we live in a more crowded world, homosexuality kicks in as a defense mechanism against overpopulation.

No dummy. The state has no right to such an examination. Whether they mate or not is not important. What is important is that they can.

But what they don’t need to examine is if a same sex couple mates, because they can’t.

You truly are bent.

 

[MinTrut]

I did. I read your posts.

Read everyone's posts, not just mine.

You said rape is glorified in the Bible.

Yes; it's quite disturbing.

You haven't explained how it's glorified.

Read the thread.

Perhaps you don't know the meaning of the word.

Read the thread to learn more!

 

[MinTrut]

I'm all for abortion if the woman chooses it but I'm not sure how you'd pick them out.

Poor BS doesn't understand how genetics works.

 

[MinTrut]

People aren’t born pedophiles.

Link?

What is it with you people that don’t understand the very simple and well established concept of conditioning.

Link?

It is a real thing, which is exactly why we all argue about what we teach and expose our children to, especially at young ages.

Link?

 

[MinTrut]

I found it tedious and boring. The problem with it I had was that if I don't sympathize with the protagonist, I really can't enjoy the book.

Winston Smith is a pathetic human being, as written.

Well, that's the point - he's wildly unsympathetic, but we at last deeply sympathize with him.

 

[MinTrut]

Then how do you explain how many pedophiles come from a religious background?

Shit, I was brought up Catholic. The one thing you learned early as a Catholic is you never wanted to be alone in a room with a priest. Two priests in my parish were accused of doing nasty stuff and the church paid out money for it. We had a football coach at my High School that showed gay porn to his team members. Now, THAT'S an example of grooming. Not the "Well, we told kids that there's nothing wrong with being gay, really." shit your sort goes on about.

^ Win.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I hope the first part is true and the second part is not.

Neither part is true.

 

[MinTrut]

It is spectacular alright.

Yup.

You have no understanding of basic science or nature.

Somebody sure doesn't - let's just agree on that.

You twist it to fit your narrative.

Projection.

Sad, but typical.

See above.

 

[MinTrut]

Same-Sex Behavior Among Animals Isnât New. Science Is Finally Catching Up.

Once shunned as a subject unfit for science, same-sex behavior among animals—documented in more than 1,500 species—is generating an explosion of new research

www.nwf.org

The encounter was yet another data point in a growing understanding: Homosexual behavior is more common among nonhuman animals than scientists once acknowledged. By several estimates, researchers have observed such activity in more than 1,500 species. “These aren’t rare anomalies,” author Eliot Schrefer writes in Queer Ducks (and Other Animals), a young-adult book that drew national attention to the issue in 2022, including an appearance by Schrefer on The Daily Show. “An explosion of research over the past 20 years has shown significant amounts of same-sex sexual behavior throughout the animal kingdom,” he writes.

Scientists have long known that heterosexual behavior varies wildly among animals. Snowshoe hares breed promiscuously. Male elephant seals preside over harems of dozens of females. Female Galápagos hawks mate with multiple males, who take turns incubating the eggs and feeding the young.

Likewise, animals exhibit diverse same-sex behavior. Before splitting a honeycomb found together, female bonobos will rub genitals, which Durham University primatologist Zanna Clay says reduces tension and helps them share. Bonin flying foxes, a type of bat, curl up in same-sex clusters to keep warm during the mating season, and oral-genital stimulation is common in the male clusters. Male zebra finches form lifelong socially monogamous relationships that include courtship dances and sex, and that don’t break up when females become available. Female Laysan albatrosses in Hawai‘i share nests, mount each other sexually and raise their young together.

What do our conservative friends see when you post the science?

Red, or just white?

 

[MinTrut]

So you have what you call brutality explained and that is what you default to

Delusion = Delusion

 

[MinTrut]

Yet you give no examples like i did

See this very thread for numerous cites and references.

 

[MinTrut]

No such thing I am not afraid of homosexuals I want to help them see the sexual perversion the live in

Extreme/delusional homophobia then?

 

[MinTrut]

Complete BS

Ign'ance loves you, this you know, cuz the Bible tells you so?

 

[MinTrut]

Not against the rules at all

The Bible is a guide for how to live your life

Excellent for predatory pedophiles.

and a historical document

See above.