Lockdown Fans: What Is Your Endgame Plan?

[NotYourBody]

You have almost 20% of Mississippi living in poverty. It's time for this shit to stop. It's not fair to make the rest of us pay for these lazy welfare states.

You are aware that most of that 20% are black democrat voters arent you?

if we returned welfare to the states you and I both would be lynched by irate welfare bums

but forcing them to work would be the best thing thst ever happened to them

Not me. I live in California. We take care of our folks in this state. Nobody will starve here.

 

[candycorn]

Again..you can't quote me as saying any such thing.

Once again, I don't have to. I can simply look at your ratings of posts in this thread that say "Trump doesn't listen to science" to know exactly what you mean.

Ahh... so in lieu of quotes; you're going with emoticons. Yeah, you're baked.

 

[candycorn]

Where I fault your blob is in the fact that he isn't chiding governors for ignoring his own guidelines

Were you not paying attention to how hard he laid into Brian Kemp for being the first to open?

Yeah, that was on April 23. Where was his cautions since then? Your creative editing of my posts only highlight your desperation.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Following science does not mean waiting until 2024 to end the lockdown. It never has; never will. You keep saying "see you in 2024".

Clearly that's what you insist upon. Everyone knew your original inference when you posted it at the beginning of this thread. "Follow the science".

Follow the science? What science? The science saying we should end the lockdown sooner than later? Or the science saying we should end the lockdown later than sooner?

Are you really suggesting we follow the science which says to end the lockdown sooner? Does that not go against the liberal narrative that ending the lockdown too soon could cost lives?

I may suck at math, but I am not gullible. You just suck at trying to sound objective.

 

[candycorn]

My embarrasment? You thought 17% was more than 20%. I'm still laughing at you.

Yes. Your embarrassment.

"Follow the science"

Which means for you, this:

Scientists warn we may need to live with social distancing for a year or more

Researchers say we face a horrible choice: practice social distancing for months or a year, or let hundreds of thousands die.

www.vox.com

Take it from this liberal rag.

Social distancing doesn't mean lockdown as you stated:

Your suggestion in reply to the OP was to "follow the science." Which means continuing this lockdown for 2 to 5 years. Your suggestion, not mine. I have posted direct links to scientific studies in this thread which assert as much.

Let me guess, when you said "lockdown" you didn't mean that...you meant something totally different.

This will be my last post on this thread. You're no longer worth the effort.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yeah, that was on April 23. Where was his cautions since then?

He was... get this... FOLLOWING THE SCIENCE.

Get lost.

 

[TemplarKormac]

This will be my last post on this thread. You're no longer worth the effort.

Run along now.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Social distancing doesn't mean lockdown as you stated:

Uh yeah it does. The crux of these lockdowns are... social distancing. A lot of jobs rely on close interpersonal contact (less than six feet of distance), but if you're social distancing, that means you can't do your job, therefore, lockdown.

Let's see how many more posts you'll make after this one.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Anyone else?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Still lurking, I see, candycorn ?

 

[Mac-7]

You have almost 20% of Mississippi living in poverty. It's time for this shit to stop. It's not fair to make the rest of us pay for these lazy welfare states.

You are aware that most of that 20% are black democrat voters arent you?

if we returned welfare to the states you and I both would be lynched by irate welfare bums

but forcing them to work would be the best thing thst ever happened to them

Not me. I live in California. We take care of our folks in this state. Nobody will starve here.

Good for you

I hope you enjoy supporting welfare bums from all over America

because like the man said, if we feed them they will come

 

[LA RAM FAN]

People who want the lockdowns to continue spend a lot of time shouting slogans and congratulating themselves on how they're "the only ones who care about saving lives", but I have yet to hear any of them tell us what their actual plan is for an endgame, or how they envision the future going forward if we were to cave in to their demands.

So I'd really like to know: if you could convince all the governors to continue the lockdowns, what do you think that looks like? How long do you want it to last, and/or what is your metric for ending it? And then what happens? What's your plan going forward from there? Do you have one?

A good place to start is when there are no new cases.

You couldn't figure that out all by yourself? Wow!

IOW, you're stupid enough to think that the virus will just die if we hide long enough.

Whatta fucking retard.

There's a reason I have him on ignore, and it IS because he's never, ever had anything to say which even the most generous person could pretend was of value.

Yeah he is one of many shills on the payroll of the government that has penetrated this site

 

[Seawytch]

No one is a fan of the lockdowns. Some people just love their mothers, fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers and are not eager to sacrifice them to President Trump's reelection campaign.

that group apparently does not include Fredo’s brother, the New York governor who insisted that chinese disease patients be sent to nursing homes

How many dead Americans do you think are "acceptable" losses? Give us a number.

How many bankrupt and financially destroyed Americans do you believe to be acceptable?

More than the number of dead ones.

50 million, asshole?

50 million living people can start over again. The dead cannot, nor will the families and friends ever recover from the loss. Life is more important than money motherfucker, plain and simple.

You really are an asshole.

Your gandma can die, for all I care. I won't have my life destroyed so your grandma doesn't have to isolate herself.

My grandmother died in 1995. But I refuse to see lives destroyed because your punk ass doesn't have the discipline to do what it takes to reduce the spread of the virus just so you can go down to the store and buy a bag of seeds. We don't need to be infected because of idiots like you. You right wingers are like children. I don't like this any more than you do, but I am not willing to get sick so I can go watch state u play a football game. Nor am I willing to get sick just so I can make some money. We don't have an economy if half the people are sick. And we certainly don't if people are dying. So grow up. You ain't missing nothing because you can't go sell something

You don't think lives are destroyed when people are unemployed for years, go bankrupt, lose everything they own and live on the street?

You're a colossal dumbfuck. If you don't want to be infected, then stay in your house, but don't be telling other people they can't go to work. 95% of people who get COVID-19 don't even know it, so how is half the population going to be so sick that they can't go to work? only 0.01% of the population will die because of COVID-19. I'm not exactly quacking in my boots over that.

As I was explaining to someone yesterday, it's not even just about the lives of people in the United States if the US economy collapses. Even if the pie-in-the-sky leftists are right and America will never devolve into a third-world country, what about those places that already ARE third-world countries, whose people are dependent on American charity and generosity to even survive? What the hell happens to them when we're so broke and desperate ourselves that we have nothing to give them? Or does saving THOSE lives no longer matter when the left has a new set of human shields to hide behind?

I went to Sams Club today and they had no pork and very little beef. What are the callous self centered retired old coots going to do when there's nothing to eat?

Do you even get WHY there is no pork or beef?

There's no beef or Pork because of hysterical douchebags like you.

Wrong, idiot. There is no beef or pork because of the consolidation of the meat packing industry. Hundreds of people crammed together spreading the virus to each other...and turning little towns into COVID hot spots.

Fascinating. And that addresses the topic of the thread how?

Why don't you ask Bripat, your bitchness? He's the one babbling about no meat at Sam's Club

My question was for people who want to extend the lockdowns, Your Stupidness. Bri doesn't want to extend them, so the question is not to him.

No, you asked me what our (his and mine)discussion about meat had to do with the topic of your thread. It is weird that you would ask me what it has to do with the topic when he is the one that brought it up. Only people that agree with you are allowed to talk about meat and not the topic of your thread?

 

[Seawytch]

I just popped in on my lunch break to see if any lockdown proponents bothered to answer my questions, or if they all just came crowding in to scream slogans and tell us, "All I need to know is Orange Man Bad!"

So I guess that clears it up: there is no one supporting continued lockdowns who is doing so because they want to save lives. They just want a chance to attack Trump. That's it, that's all, and they haven't given a single thought to what the effects of their demands might be, because it doesn't matter to them.

You are full of bovine feces as usual. Quite a few people told you exactly when the lockdowns can end. It’s a very simple answer. TESTING.

You are full of bullshit as always. I didn't ASK, "When can lockdowns end?" I asked, "If you want the lockdowns to continue, tell me how that looks and what the plan is for that future?"

Is there ever going to be a point in your ignorant, cowardly life when you answer the question being asked instead of the question you WISH had been asked?

Oh no...her bitchness is getting upset. This is terrible. She's demanding someone play with her strawman. Boo hoo.

Nobody wants lockdowns to continue. What the future needs to look like to end the lockdowns is testing upwards of 20 million people a day and lots of contact tracing.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The pat answer.

Its a prepackaged answer that does not require any original thinking

just regurgitate what they hear on NBC or CNN

Yes, well, that was the point of this thread: to ask them to THINK about what their demands entail, and to tell us what alternative they're offering to re-opening, if they dislike it so much.

Or to recognize that they don't have an alternative to offer.

 

[Cecilie1200]

MY plan would have been for Every One to work together, follow the rules provided by the medical profession from the start, Business to have been leaders, not waited till their employees started to die be for starting to get screens & masks. factories clean up their working conditions. only pay attention to the science people,(with a grain of salt) if their political side start showing up. Government move your fat butts get the supply's rolling day one. maybe we would not be in this sad place now.

Yes, thank you for the 165125184 recap of "THIS is what you did wrong in the past, you suck so much, blah blah". The question continues to be, what is your plan NOW?

 

[Cecilie1200]

No one is a fan of the lockdowns. Some people just love their mothers, fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers and are not eager to sacrifice them to President Trump's reelection campaign.

that group apparently does not include Fredo’s brother, the New York governor who insisted that chinese disease patients be sent to nursing homes

How many dead Americans do you think are "acceptable" losses? Give us a number.

How many bankrupt and financially destroyed Americans do you believe to be acceptable?

More than the number of dead ones.

50 million, asshole?

50 million living people can start over again. The dead cannot, nor will the families and friends ever recover from the loss. Life is more important than money motherfucker, plain and simple.

You really are an asshole.

Your gandma can die, for all I care. I won't have my life destroyed so your grandma doesn't have to isolate herself.

My grandmother died in 1995. But I refuse to see lives destroyed because your punk ass doesn't have the discipline to do what it takes to reduce the spread of the virus just so you can go down to the store and buy a bag of seeds. We don't need to be infected because of idiots like you. You right wingers are like children. I don't like this any more than you do, but I am not willing to get sick so I can go watch state u play a football game. Nor am I willing to get sick just so I can make some money. We don't have an economy if half the people are sick. And we certainly don't if people are dying. So grow up. You ain't missing nothing because you can't go sell something

You don't think lives are destroyed when people are unemployed for years, go bankrupt, lose everything they own and live on the street?

You're a colossal dumbfuck. If you don't want to be infected, then stay in your house, but don't be telling other people they can't go to work. 95% of people who get COVID-19 don't even know it, so how is half the population going to be so sick that they can't go to work? only 0.01% of the population will die because of COVID-19. I'm not exactly quacking in my boots over that.

As I was explaining to someone yesterday, it's not even just about the lives of people in the United States if the US economy collapses. Even if the pie-in-the-sky leftists are right and America will never devolve into a third-world country, what about those places that already ARE third-world countries, whose people are dependent on American charity and generosity to even survive? What the hell happens to them when we're so broke and desperate ourselves that we have nothing to give them? Or does saving THOSE lives no longer matter when the left has a new set of human shields to hide behind?

I went to Sams Club today and they had no pork and very little beef. What are the callous self centered retired old coots going to do when there's nothing to eat?

Do you even get WHY there is no pork or beef?

There's no beef or Pork because of hysterical douchebags like you.

Wrong, idiot. There is no beef or pork because of the consolidation of the meat packing industry. Hundreds of people crammed together spreading the virus to each other...and turning little towns into COVID hot spots.

Fascinating. And that addresses the topic of the thread how?

Why don't you ask Bripat, your bitchness? He's the one babbling about no meat at Sam's Club

My question was for people who want to extend the lockdowns, Your Stupidness. Bri doesn't want to extend them, so the question is not to him.

No, you asked me what our (his and mine)discussion about meat had to do with the topic of your thread. It is weird that you would ask me what it has to do with the topic when he is the one that brought it up. Only people that agree with you are allowed to talk about meat and not the topic of your thread?

Bri doesn't have a problem addressing the topic. You, on the other hand, have a history of ignoring the topic to try to deflect off onto your talking points.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I just popped in on my lunch break to see if any lockdown proponents bothered to answer my questions, or if they all just came crowding in to scream slogans and tell us, "All I need to know is Orange Man Bad!"

So I guess that clears it up: there is no one supporting continued lockdowns who is doing so because they want to save lives. They just want a chance to attack Trump. That's it, that's all, and they haven't given a single thought to what the effects of their demands might be, because it doesn't matter to them.

You are full of bovine feces as usual. Quite a few people told you exactly when the lockdowns can end. It’s a very simple answer. TESTING.

You are full of bullshit as always. I didn't ASK, "When can lockdowns end?" I asked, "If you want the lockdowns to continue, tell me how that looks and what the plan is for that future?"

Is there ever going to be a point in your ignorant, cowardly life when you answer the question being asked instead of the question you WISH had been asked?

Oh no...her bitchness is getting upset. This is terrible. She's demanding someone play with her strawman. Boo hoo.

Nobody wants lockdowns to continue. What the future needs to look like to end the lockdowns is testing upwards of 20 million people a day and lots of contact tracing.

"The only acceptable topic is personal attacks and maintaining what a good person I believe I am for XYZ talking points! You can't make me think about consequences, because my masters haven't told me to!"

I'm glad you think it's perfectly okay to demand the deaths of millions of people worldwide so long as you shout about how much you don't WANT to do it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

People who want the lockdowns to continue spend a lot of time shouting slogans and congratulating themselves on how they're "the only ones who care about saving lives", but I have yet to hear any of them tell us what their actual plan is for an endgame, or how they envision the future going forward if we were to cave in to their demands.

So I'd really like to know: if you could convince all the governors to continue the lockdowns, what do you think that looks like? How long do you want it to last, and/or what is your metric for ending it? And then what happens? What's your plan going forward from there? Do you have one?

A good place to start is when there are no new cases.

You couldn't figure that out all by yourself? Wow!

IOW, you're stupid enough to think that the virus will just die if we hide long enough.

Whatta fucking retard.

There's a reason I have him on ignore, and it IS because he's never, ever had anything to say which even the most generous person could pretend was of value.

Funny you should say that. It’s how I feel about your posts.

Yesterday all of Canada crossed a threshold. We now have more Closed Cases than active cases. Ontario has 3 times the number of closed cases to active cases but the rest of Canada lags behind.

Ontario just opened construction sites this week. Schools remain closed until June 4th. Other than essential services, this is the first opening.

Premier Ford assures us we’ll be outside enjoying beer on Victoria Day weekend. That’s overly optimistic but we’re starting the process.

Our economy isn’t collapsing and other than conservatives in Alberta, no one is demonstrating. Our country is getting ready to reopen.

With 950,000 active cases versus 240,000 the USA is simply ensuring an even worse disaster by reopening.

If there is one person whose opinion on what the US should do going forward I did NOT ask for, it would be the resident "Canada is perfect, because they treat me like the helpless halfwit I aspire to be!" drone.

 

[Cecilie1200]

No one is a fan of the lockdowns. Some people just love their mothers, fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers and are not eager to sacrifice them to President Trump's reelection campaign.

250 million people world wide are going to be starving if we don’t get our food supply flowing like it was before the lockdown. How long do you expect to keep grandparents away from their grandkids? This is no where near as simple as you claim it to be.

7.8 billion people world wide are looking at a pandemic right now. We might want to end that first.

And only around 46.8 million of the most unhealthy people are looking at death from covid, vs the 3x that amount, 250 million, infants to elderly, are looking at starving to death. 68 million in this country alone are looking at crippling unemployment.

And that's just our country. Anyone who thinks the US economy can collapse without taking every other country with it is high as balls and hallucinating.

Anybody who thinks the economy can be fully productive when people are scared to go to work because they could get sick or die is high as balls and hallucinating.

Better to be afraid of the chinese disease without cause than to die of starvation in lib nirvana

No one is going to die of starvation. But when a person is ignorantly calling a virus the Chinese disease, there is no reason coming from that persons mind.

Yes people are going to die from starvation. Probably not in America because we are blessed, but around the world, hell yeah. Especially in Northern Africa where out of control locust swarms have decimated their farms. They were relying on other countries for aid, but everyone’s food production is dropping.

Actually, probably in the United States as well, although not to anything like the same extent. America has been blessed, but that doesn't mean we can throw those blessings down the crapper with both hands and think it won't change things.