Looks like the infamous Vindman will be doing the duffle bag drag

[SmokeALib]

Besides that you need to go get your facts straight, Shokin NEVER claimed to have been investigating Biden's son himself, only the company he worked for.

He didn't, huh?

Viktor Shokin: Biden outraged we seized Burisma assets | One America News Network

No, he didn't. Do yourself a favor and use real news sources. OAN is a fucking joke with no integrity.

Shokin claimed (with absolutely no evidence) that he wanted to interview Hunter about Burisma at the time he was fired, not that he was investgating Hunter personally.

The case on Burisma was 2 years dormant at the time and had to do with 2010-2012 period, well before Hunter joined the company.

You're the fuckin joke. OAN is straight up news. Sounds like Rachel got your tongue.

Dummy, Rachel runs a POLITICAL OPINION show.

OAN is Trumpster bullshit network.

‘Stunning piece of propaganda’: Journalists blast One America News series

Lol imagine Politico slamming OAN. Ya think?

 

[jc456]

Oh please. Biden would be the easiest to beat. In fact, Trump wouldn't even need to do any campaigning. As for your article, it said Trump will! Well, when did he? The hyperlink provided was to a Politico piece that was written in late October of last year, long after this clown show was launched.

...you say that but blowing millions of dollars against specifically Biden in Democrat early voting states tells a much more convincing story.

To say that Trump 's campaign DID NOT very clearly consider Biden a political opposition is just straight fucking stupid. Don't be fucking stupid.

Tell me why Trump would run ads against Biden long after the fact the Democrats made a big deal about the phone call.

...because Biden is his political opposition and Trump wants to hit him up in Democrat early voting states. DUH???

Biden is not his political opposition. He wasn't when Trump talked with Zelensky, he isn't now, and he won't be until he gets the nomination which is pretty shady looking at this point.

Repeating same completely demolished assertions over and over does not make them more convincing.

Trump campaign spent millions to go specifically after Biden. Obviously they did not agree with your rediculous analisys about who is and who is not Trump's political opposition.

they did? you know this how?

 

[jc456]

Besides that you need to go get your facts straight, Shokin NEVER claimed to have been investigating Biden's son himself, only the company he worked for.

He didn't, huh?

Viktor Shokin: Biden outraged we seized Burisma assets | One America News Network

No, he didn't. Do yourself a favor and use real news sources. OAN is a fucking joke with no integrity.

Shokin claimed (with absolutely no evidence) that he wanted to interview Hunter about Burisma at the time he was fired, not that he was investgating Hunter personally.

The case on Burisma was 2 years dormant at the time and had to do with 2010-2012 period, well before Hunter joined the company.

You're the fuckin joke. OAN is straight up news. Sounds like Rachel got your tongue.

Dummy, Rachel runs a POLITICAL OPINION show.

OAN is Trumpster bullshit network.

‘Stunning piece of propaganda’: Journalists blast One America News series

the old, if you don't agree with us your station is a hack. Too fking funny. You all are really losers. truly, amazingly stupid at that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Oh please. Biden would be the easiest to beat. In fact, Trump wouldn't even need to do any campaigning. As for your article, it said Trump will! Well, when did he? The hyperlink provided was to a Politico piece that was written in late October of last year, long after this clown show was launched.

...you say that but blowing millions of dollars against specifically Biden in Democrat early voting states tells a much more convincing story.

To say that Trump 's campaign DID NOT very clearly consider Biden a political opposition is just straight fucking stupid. Don't be fucking stupid.

Tell me why Trump would run ads against Biden long after the fact the Democrats made a big deal about the phone call.

...because Biden is his political opposition and Trump wants to hit him up in Democrat early voting states. DUH???

Biden is not his political opposition. He wasn't when Trump talked with Zelensky, he isn't now, and he won't be until he gets the nomination which is pretty shady looking at this point.

Repeating same completely demolished assertions over and over does not make them more convincing.

Trump campaign spent millions to go specifically after Biden. Obviously they did not agree with your rediculous analisys about who is and who is not Trump's political opposition.

When you show me this ad, where it ran, then we can discuss it. Remember, Biden for at least a year has been running around calling Trump a racist. He was part of the last administration that spied on him. If Trump wanted to get even with Joe, it has nothing to do with him being a political rival. Again, Joe would be the easiest to beat. The man can't talk for five minutes without making a fool out of himself.

 

[Votto]

Hope he is assigned the duty station of being the morale officer in Greenland.

No, Benghazi.

 

[Flash]

Hope he is assigned the duty station of being the morale officer in Greenland.

No, Benghazi.

Better yet, Wuhan!

 

[easyt65]

His career is over.

Among his fellow rangers he was known for being a 'chow thief', 'lazy', and for going outside the chain of command - which led to his fellow Rangers voting for him to be released from the Ranger program. Due to his ability with languages (reportedly) he got pushed through the program anyway. Still, his fellow Rangers state he was not very trusted.

I am not attempting to slight his choice to serve or his service - just relating what his fellow Rangers have stated.

"Chow Thief" - Rangers Wanted Alexander Vindman Removed from Ranger School

He demonstrated his willingness to go outside the chain of Command and how he does not give much reason for people to trust him. It is well within the President's right to request that he be re-assigned, no longer on his team, as a President needs people around him he can trust. He proved to his Commander and Chief he can't be trusted.

He stepped into the spotlight, and it did not go well. He, his actions, his career, his reputation - all came to light / under scrutiny. I fully, reasonably, realistically expect him to retire before the end of the year.

 

[Crepitus]

Vinman didn’t leak anything. He filed complaint with NSC lawyers as he was told by his superior - Bolton. He also testified to Congress as he was required.

yeah he did. He leaked into his panties

And you've been in there checking?

You repressed conservitards are sick.

 

[AntonToo]

His career is over.

Stop being stupid. J/k, I know you can't, so let me explain the real world to you.

The right wants to hang Vinman for telling the truth about Trump's corrupt campaign in Ukraine, but on the flipside he has earned high esteem among Democrats for his conscientious service to this country.

The next Democrat administration will make certain he returns to his improperly interupted NSC position and is promoted.

 

[AntonToo]

Besides that you need to go get your facts straight, Shokin NEVER claimed to have been investigating Biden's son himself, only the company he worked for.

He didn't, huh?

Viktor Shokin: Biden outraged we seized Burisma assets | One America News Network

No, he didn't. Do yourself a favor and use real news sources. OAN is a fucking joke with no integrity.

Shokin claimed (with absolutely no evidence) that he wanted to interview Hunter about Burisma at the time he was fired, not that he was investgating Hunter personally.

The case on Burisma was 2 years dormant at the time and had to do with 2010-2012 period, well before Hunter joined the company.

You're the fuckin joke. OAN is straight up news. Sounds like Rachel got your tongue.

Dummy, Rachel runs a POLITICAL OPINION show.

OAN is Trumpster bullshit network.

‘Stunning piece of propaganda’: Journalists blast One America News series

Lol imagine Politico slamming OAN. Ya think?

You don't have to imagine Democrats taking issue with a Trump propaganda network. It's FOX's crazy, conspiracy peddling uncle who learned to make a buck by servicing the cult.

 

[easyt65]

Stop being stupid. J/k, I know you can't, so let me explain the real world to you.

Ant, have you ever served in the military as an officer?

If you haven't, you can STFU now because you have nothing to say - you know NOTHING.

The military is very clear on its opposition to its members participating in politics. Ever notice how the Joint Chiefs of Staff remain stoic during their Commander and Chief's SOTU Speech and / or at other events?

Vindman, again - known for circumventing the chain of command (a MASSIVE 'no-no') and for being untrustworthy by his fellow Rangers - stepped into the public spotlight with absolutely NOTHING to say in his part in the coup attempt against his Commander and Chief / President.

He witnessed nothing.

He admitted he had no personal 1st-hand account information.

He committed career suicide for NOTHING.

Getting relieved of duty and re-assigned because of a massive F*-UP is no small thing. When you get to his rank, it's HUGE. 'Betraying' your Commander and Chief is MASSIVE.

Vindman was not fired.....'Fired' is a term used by civilians, referring to the loss of a JOB, after which you can just go find another one. Vindman just sacrificed his own CAREER. Oh, as you can see, Vindman was re-assigned, given a new duty location / job....somewhere he can do his time / mark time UNTIL HE RETIRES / QUITS. He will NEVER get promoted again - again, 'Betraying' your Commander and Chief is MASSIVE, an action you never recover from.

He has been identified as an 'Anti-Trump Liberal Leaning ASSASSIN'...a FAILED Anti-Trump Liberal-Leaning Assassin. He just proved his fellow Rangers - who have publicly declared he is a liar, a 'chow thief', NOT a team player, and someone who is NOT trustworthy - as being 100% correct about him.

Claiming his career is NOT over after that being said tells me you don't know a damn thing about the military. Being a liar, 'show-thief' (demonstrating all about self), NOT a team player, and being un-trustworthy are not valued qualities in the Military. Politics? Absolutely. Military? NO!

No military member will ever trust him enough to follow him - they will obey his rank, but not HIM.
No Commander will ever trust him again. Without trust of your fellow soldiers you have nothing, you have no ability to lead, you are nothing.

THIS was brought about by VINDMAN.

The 'assassin' took his shot...and missed...and was immediately removed form a trusted position, re-assigned. He will lead NOTHING now. As IO said, he will just be MARKING TIME.

 

[AntonToo]

Stop being stupid. J/k, I know you can't, so let me explain the real world to you.

Ant, have you ever served in the military as an officer?

If you haven't, you can STFU now because you have nothing to say - you know NOTHING.

The military is very clear on its opposition to its members participating in politics.

I'm actually laughing at your stupid, insane comments. Thanks bub.

We'll return to this after Democrat administration gets to the WH.

 

[easyt65]

I'm actually laughing at your stupid, insane comments. Thanks bub.

Of course you're laughing - you just got busted for being ignorant and speaking out of your ass about something you proved you know nothing about. You have nothing else you can do but laugh like a biased simpleton.

 

[AntonToo]

I'm actually laughing at your stupid, insane comments. Thanks bub.

Of course you're laughing - you just got busted for being ignorant and speaking out of your ass about something you proved you know nothing about. You have nothing else you can do but laugh like a biased simpleton.

Yep you totally got me with your idiotic bs. I give up untill the next administration is in the WH.

 

[buckeye45_73]

He spied on Trump, fuck if it were Washingron, he would have shot the guy. Hes lucky Trump was so nice. Oh and Obama was ok with Patreus leaking? Didnt he get jail?

That's a lie.

which part? I have so much info in my posts you need to be specific

Well, it starts at "he" and ends at the question mark.

Oh Patraues didn't go to jail? Who did he server under Obama, I think I'm right as usual

What about Flynn?

My point on that was Obama prosecuted a leaker, which Trump should do with Vindman and especially Comey

 

[Crepitus]

That's a lie.

which part? I have so much info in my posts you need to be specific

Well, it starts at "he" and ends at the question mark.

Oh Patraues didn't go to jail? Who did he server under Obama, I think I'm right as usual

What about Flynn?

My point on that was Obama prosecuted a leaker, which Trump should do with Vindman and especially Comey

Vindman is not a "leaker".

 

[busybee01]

Retarted bullshit, in any sane trial highly relevant evidence and witnesses can be introduced.

Proposition that prosecutors (trial managers here) can be stoppped by the jury (Congressional Republicans, who pledged to work "hand-in-glove" with the defense) is a product of shameless politics not good faith process in pursuit of justice and truth.

EVEN SO. We have a long list of Senate Republicans that agree that Trump is in fact guilty of the wrongdoing in Ukraine just as Atricle I charged. These findings ARE bipartisan.

And yet their votes didn't reflect that.

Horsecrap, Mitt's vote did reflect exactly that, but your argument is pure red herring either way.

Their vote was not for lack of evidence, these Republicans agree that Trump is culpable and what they are actually publicly saying with their vote is that removing him for it should be left to voters.

Either way, these improprieties are real and Vinman was correct to report what he saw to NSC lawyers and then give his truthful testimony to Congress as he was required by law.

Republicans now wanting to hang him for doing the right thing is deplorable.

One day when Trump is long gone it just may be a Democrat in the White House who is doing something wrong, so be careful where you fools are going with this, because guess what, there will be no one left to report it.

Well the next commie President will be impeached by a Republican led House because your people created this impeachment war. Thanks to them, you no longer need a crime or an impeachable offense to be impeached. Just do something the leaders of the House don't like, and off to impeachment we go.

Romney is not really a Republican. He's hated Trump since before he ran for office. HIs vote was out of hatred, not based on wrong or right. Vindman is part of the deep state. In fact, he was at the last Democrat primary when Biden kissed his ass right on stage. You can't have people in your administration working against you. That's why Trump got rid of him.

If you were a manager of a baseball team, and your pitcher was rooting for the other side, do you put him in the game? Of course not. You put in players that want your side to win. You don't want your pitcher walking batters, missing a ball hit in his direction, allowing base runners to steal bases. Only an idiot would do that. So if you see your pitcher acting that way, you take him out of the game. That's what Trump did.

Ask Bill Clinton who invented the impeachment war

Bill Clinton committed a felony. According to the US Constitution, it's an impeachable offense.

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What Trump did is a impeachable offense. Even Republican witness Jonathan Turley has said that.

 

[busybee01]

And yet their votes didn't reflect that.

Yes. I don't agree with them that Trump was wrong, but, I do think that it was a widely held belief among the Senate GOP that Trump was wrong to bring up Biden in the phone call, but that it certainly was not a removeable offense.

Biden is a former Senator and it looks to me like they will do everything they can to make sure he is never held to account for his open corruption. Quite frankly, the entire US Senate may be similarly corrupt.

He wasn't just "brought up on the call". Trump was pressuring Zelensky to go on CNN and publicly announce investigation into Bidens.

That is not good faith pursuit of justice, it has nothing to do with justice, it's the opposite.

Belive it or not there actually is a proper process to report illegal activities to DOJ.

The same DOJ that tried to stage a coup against Trump?

TDS morons like you are crazy.

Coup, sh-mew. Here's examples of coup. Congo Crisis - Wikipedia 100,000 believed killed. 1960 Ethiopian coup d'état attempt - Wikipedia
300 killed, including most of the conspirators. 1963 Togolese coup d'état - Wikipedia They took over government buildings, arrested most of the cabinet, and assassinated Togo's first president, Sylvanus Olympio outside the American embassy in Lomé. 1963 Dahomeyan coup d'état - Wikipedia On October 28 Chief of Staff of the 800-man Dahomeyan Army Christophe Soglo took control of the country[16] to prevent a civil war. He dismissed the cabinet, dissolved the Assembly, suspended the constitution and banned any type of demonstrations.[19] After having Maga sign his resignation the same day. In late November, it began prosecuting members of the cabinet, such as the Minister of National Economy and the Finance Minister for misusing public funds.[19] Maga was soon to find himself in jail too. Ramadan Revolution - Wikipedia the February 1963 coup d'état in Iraq, was a military coup by the Ba'ath Party's Iraqi-wing which overthrew the Prime Minister of Iraq, Abd al-Karim Qasim in 1963. The most powerful leader of the new government was the secretary general of the Iraqi Ba'ath Party, Ali Salih al-Sa'di, who controlled the National Guard militia and organized a massacre of hundreds—if not thousands—of suspected communists and other dissidents following the coup.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965_Algerian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat Around 1:30am, Tahar Zbiri, Said Abid, and colonel Abbes approached Villa Joly and were let in by the replacement guards at the entrance. Tahar Zbiri knocked on Ben Bella's door and explained to Ben Bella that he was no longer the president. The three military officers allowed Ben Bella to get dressed and then took him to an undisclosed location where he was placed under house arrest.

You get the point. All you little drama queens crying "Coup, Coup, Coup" are just so full of sh#t. This was no coup. It was an investigation of the illegal activities for political gain by the now "Impeached President of the United States, per the Constitution. The House of Representatives proved their case. We all know Donny's guilt. He just wasn't removed, mainly because spineless Republican Senators thought the election in 9 months was the place for the people speak on the matter, and it would allow them to hold on to power until election day. I am proud, the House exposed Donny's bullsh#t, and am proud of the whistle blower and all those that testified in the House as great American Patriots. I will support whatever Democrat is on the ticket in November to replace the crooked SOB at that time.

It was a coup. Just because thousands of people haven't been killed doesn't mean it wasn't one.

It is not a coup. It is specified in the Constitution.

 

[busybee01]

He didn’t really fit in anyway. He’s too competent and well informed.

TRANSLATION: Loyal to the Democrats and disloyal to the President and country he swore to serve.

Service members pledge loyalty to the country, not the president. You tipped your hand. He was following his oath. That’s why he was fired.

'Service members pledge loyalty to the country, not the president.'


here is the current oath of service members:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Do you see the part about obeying the orders of the President? Yeah. You are fucking clueless

It's called insubordination....look into it.... And there is a chain of command, he didn't follow that either, so yeah, he's a piece of shit. so glad he got perp walked out....that was fucking hilarious....fuck that guy.

There was no insubordination. He took a oath to defend the Constitution. Congress' power of oversight is in the Constitution. It was a part of his duty to testify before Congress.

 

[Zorro!]

Yes. I don't agree with them that Trump was wrong, but, I do think that it was a widely held belief among the Senate GOP that Trump was wrong to bring up Biden in the phone call, but that it certainly was not a removeable offense.

Biden is a former Senator and it looks to me like they will do everything they can to make sure he is never held to account for his open corruption. Quite frankly, the entire US Senate may be similarly corrupt.

He wasn't just "brought up on the call". Trump was pressuring Zelensky to go on CNN and publicly announce investigation into Bidens.

That is not good faith pursuit of justice, it has nothing to do with justice, it's the opposite.

Belive it or not there actually is a proper process to report illegal activities to DOJ.

The same DOJ that tried to stage a coup against Trump?

TDS morons like you are crazy.

Coup, sh-mew. Here's examples of coup. Congo Crisis - Wikipedia 100,000 believed killed. 1960 Ethiopian coup d'état attempt - Wikipedia
300 killed, including most of the conspirators. 1963 Togolese coup d'état - Wikipedia They took over government buildings, arrested most of the cabinet, and assassinated Togo's first president, Sylvanus Olympio outside the American embassy in Lomé. 1963 Dahomeyan coup d'état - Wikipedia On October 28 Chief of Staff of the 800-man Dahomeyan Army Christophe Soglo took control of the country[16] to prevent a civil war. He dismissed the cabinet, dissolved the Assembly, suspended the constitution and banned any type of demonstrations.[19] After having Maga sign his resignation the same day. In late November, it began prosecuting members of the cabinet, such as the Minister of National Economy and the Finance Minister for misusing public funds.[19] Maga was soon to find himself in jail too. Ramadan Revolution - Wikipedia the February 1963 coup d'état in Iraq, was a military coup by the Ba'ath Party's Iraqi-wing which overthrew the Prime Minister of Iraq, Abd al-Karim Qasim in 1963. The most powerful leader of the new government was the secretary general of the Iraqi Ba'ath Party, Ali Salih al-Sa'di, who controlled the National Guard militia and organized a massacre of hundreds—if not thousands—of suspected communists and other dissidents following the coup.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965_Algerian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat Around 1:30am, Tahar Zbiri, Said Abid, and colonel Abbes approached Villa Joly and were let in by the replacement guards at the entrance. Tahar Zbiri knocked on Ben Bella's door and explained to Ben Bella that he was no longer the president. The three military officers allowed Ben Bella to get dressed and then took him to an undisclosed location where he was placed under house arrest.

You get the point. All you little drama queens crying "Coup, Coup, Coup" are just so full of sh#t. This was no coup. It was an investigation of the illegal activities for political gain by the now "Impeached President of the United States, per the Constitution. The House of Representatives proved their case. We all know Donny's guilt. He just wasn't removed, mainly because spineless Republican Senators thought the election in 9 months was the place for the people speak on the matter, and it would allow them to hold on to power until election day. I am proud, the House exposed Donny's bullsh#t, and am proud of the whistle blower and all those that testified in the House as great American Patriots. I will support whatever Democrat is on the ticket in November to replace the crooked SOB at that time.

It was a coup. Just because thousands of people haven't been killed doesn't mean it wasn't one.

It is not a coup. It is specified in the Constitution.

Obtaining warrants to illegally spy on the President with the use of a forged documents is "specified in the Constitution"?

Are you sure?