Lt. Gen. McInerney Rebukes John McCain on Torture: It Worked on Songbird John WOW!

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Why would you call a Lt. General classless trash? Many believe this to be true of McCain.

What the disgraced Lt. General said was classless trash, which has become commonplace in the sick Trump era. Has McCain ever mocked an American who endured years of torture in service to his country? Nope.

he doesn't get any pass just because 50 years ago he was a POW. why wasn't he voted president by all you hypocrites? Fk man to you he's fking god now.

Irrelevant. I never mocked a soldier’s sacrifice in support of torture. Didn’t have to be McCain. That’s on you pieces of trash.

sure it is. you're saying no one can say anything about him cause he was a POW. So he should have been president. why didn't you vote for him?

Who said being a POW means he should be President? Are you so low in intelligence that you believe that when people stand up for common decency over his sacrifices to our country...that people stand up against you scums denigrating his service that that automatically translates to us wanting him for President?

What a simpleton world you live in.

Even the shit eater obama body slammed spineless McCain...

 

[bodecea]

Holy Toledo what a smackdown! I have my own reasons to hate McCain for all the wars he has backed and I've never truly bought into the accusations that others have made about him during the Vietnam war, but this is certainly a breathtaking statement.

And don't give me shit for linking to Gateway. His interview was on FOX.

"Well, she can’t use it anymore because it’s determined by Congress that it’s not legal. The fact is John McCain, it worked on John. That’s why they call him songbird John."

Lt. Gen. McInerney Rebukes John McCain on Torture: It Worked on John. That's Why They Called Him "Songbird John" (VIDEO)

The Songbird John story has been debunked as a conspiracy theory. Even I used to believe it. I was wrong.

'Songbird John' McCain? No evidence McCain helped ... - PolitiFact

Na, He was definitely a Tweety Bird.
You can see it in his demeanor...
There is a reason why George W. Bush won the military vote in his primary over McCain.

John McCain is a career politician 100% spineless and corrupt

Wow...where's your expertise coming from? How many years were you a POW?

 

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Vietnam Veterans of America have called for his and the WH aide to be fired. You just don't disrespect a Vietnam Vet.

I am a Vietnam Veteran.

I don't think McCain was a hero for being a POW.

I also don't think he was a traitor for "singing like a songbird".

I do, however, think he is a RINO asshole that kept Congress from repealing Obamacare in addition to other dumbass votes to side with the Democrats.

John McCain was a hero because he refused to hand the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory by accepting their offer to send him back to the US.

In other words he kept millions of people from losing their health insurance. Obamacare is more popular now than Trump is.

He is no hero because of that Tape he made...

Guess what? There is no longer a mandate for Obama care which is fine. That’s the only way Obama care is acceptable as long as there’s no fucking Mandate.. you fucking retard.

 

[sparky]

I can understand having a problem with those in power ,who put our young in uniform to serve

I can't understand those who simply target those in uniform, and put them down for their service

~S~

 

[Rustic]

Holy Toledo what a smackdown! I have my own reasons to hate McCain for all the wars he has backed and I've never truly bought into the accusations that others have made about him during the Vietnam war, but this is certainly a breathtaking statement.

And don't give me shit for linking to Gateway. His interview was on FOX.

"Well, she can’t use it anymore because it’s determined by Congress that it’s not legal. The fact is John McCain, it worked on John. That’s why they call him songbird John."

Lt. Gen. McInerney Rebukes John McCain on Torture: It Worked on John. That's Why They Called Him "Songbird John" (VIDEO)

The Songbird John story has been debunked as a conspiracy theory. Even I used to believe it. I was wrong.

'Songbird John' McCain? No evidence McCain helped ... - PolitiFact

Na, He was definitely a Tweety Bird.
You can see it in his demeanor...
There is a reason why George W. Bush won the military vote in his primary over McCain.

John McCain is a career politician 100% spineless and corrupt

Wow...where's your expertise coming from? How many years were you a POW?

It doesn’t matter, the fact remains Spineless McCain cracked… Hero’s don’t crack

 

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You filthy ass hateful Liberals sure mocked GW Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard as a fighter pilot, didn't you?

I don’t know I was young then. But man, if he’d been shot down and subjected to torture for years, it would have been horrific for a Democrat to mock him while trying to spread more torture.

Being shot down and being a POW doesn't make him a hero.

Breaking under torture like he did didn't make him a traitor.

Lying about his part in the fire on the aircraft carrier and then running away makes him an asshole. He didn't even hang around for the funeral of the brave sailors who died. He went on in country R&R.

Being a Liberal voting RINO and a hate Trump dickhead also makes him an asshole.

He was also a loser not being able to beat a worthless affirmative action piece of shit Obama. He never really attacked Obama's for being a batshit crazy anti American Muslim Liberal. He was too weak to do what was necessary to make sure we didn't have Obama as President. All it would have taken was telling the truth like Trump did about Crooked Hillary.

Damn, so much rage and confusion in you

But a good reminder that the GOP will attack POW’s for their time as POW’s.

No...we are attacking McCain for being an asshole.....his time as a POW has nothing to do with that....

Show us how torture worked on McCain like the OP talks about. What military secrets did McCain give up under torture?

It doesn’t matter, he cracked just listen to that tape, Hero’s don’t crack

 

[bodecea]

another Notable thing that General MCInerney did was to call 'mrobama' a treasonous bastird who was aiding and abetting Americas enemies . You can read all about it if you read my link BBee and Bodecea .

So...no wonder you've fallen all over yourself in love with him.

 

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The man is an embarrassment to all soldiers

Air Farce General.....probably got his chest full of medals flying a desk and blowing his direct senior.

look at the hypocrite

You show me that that Air Farce General did something note worthy in a war besides fly a desk, you would have a valid point.

Ok, I take it back:

McInerney was a command pilot with more than 4,100 flying hours, including 407 combat missions (243 in O-1s as a forward air controller and 164 in F-4Cs, Ds and Es) during the Vietnam War. In addition to his Vietnam Service, McInerney served overseas in NATO; Pacific Air Forces and as commander of 11th Air Force in Alaska.

FAC in Viet Nam...ok, he earned his chops.

He did not earn the right to lie about McCain. McInerny is trash.

Spineless McCain cracked, heroes do not crack

 

[bodecea]

Does not sound like a patriot to me...

You don't sound like a patriot to me traitor.

There is no reason other than being a traitor to make a tape like that. Fucking spineless coward

You would have been so much braver, wouldn't you? Like, rushing into a school building unarmed to stop a shooter.....that kind of brave, right?

 

[bodecea]

You filthy ass hateful Liberals sure mocked GW Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard as a fighter pilot, didn't you?

I don’t know I was young then. But man, if he’d been shot down and subjected to torture for years, it would have been horrific for a Democrat to mock him while trying to spread more torture.

Being shot down and being a POW doesn't make him a hero.

Breaking under torture like he did didn't make him a traitor.

Lying about his part in the fire on the aircraft carrier and then running away makes him an asshole. He didn't even hang around for the funeral of the brave sailors who died. He went on in country R&R.

Being a Liberal voting RINO and a hate Trump dickhead also makes him an asshole.

He was also a loser not being able to beat a worthless affirmative action piece of shit Obama. He never really attacked Obama's for being a batshit crazy anti American Muslim Liberal. He was too weak to do what was necessary to make sure we didn't have Obama as President. All it would have taken was telling the truth like Trump did about Crooked Hillary.

Damn, so much rage and confusion in you

But a good reminder that the GOP will attack POW’s for their time as POW’s.

Scum will stay scum...we began to see that the first time trump attacked POWs.

-------------------------------- TRUMP didn't attack POW , he spoke his opinion of 'juan mcstain' Bodecea .

He attacked all POWs and you loved it.

 

[bodecea]

Democrats managed to turn the term "torture into a generic condition. Depending on your personal sensitivity, "torture" could mean anything from discomfort to embarrassment. More people drowned in Ted Kennedy's car than during enhanced interrogation known as "waterboarding" but democrats prefer to use the word "torture" even though elite U.S. Military units go through it.

Stop the bullshit
Waterboarding has always been considered torture ....up until Republicans endorsed the practice

Elite military units no longer go through waterboarding.

Only fucking pussies consider waterboarding torture, Our military... it’s part of their training.

Hannity still hasn't done it for charity like he promised....wonder why he's so afraid.

 

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Torture doesn't work. The CIA knows this. General Mattis said this and he's been on the front lines where in a moments notice you or those you direct can lose their lives. In the pinch, when you are desperate for answers and believe there may be imminent attacks, I can accept it in limited scenarios as a last ditch effort to demand information, but ultimately, in general, it's mostly ineffective. There have been some who have identified some successes, and others who say it was a waste of time. Without any special inside knowledge, I tend to side with the latter.

I've watched some great documentaries on military intelligence interrogations, from the Vietnam Era and beyond. These guys were good, some of the best. The Germans in WWII were particularly creative, and there are outstanding OSS videos that illustrate how simple chat can give away so much. Some of the stuff I've seen dealt with hardened terrorists, in time, they were broken down and gave actionable intelligence. Not a finger was lifted to harm them. A serious game of psychological warfare in which they saved lives, instead of some primal torture action of revenge for the past, which won't help future U.S ops.

There is a way to get answers, torture could often be more of a liability than a benefit even if they do tell you information, as they often do so just to stop the suffering. So now you waste time and resources chasing ghosts, instead of having legitimate intel. That in itself can cost lives.

Moreover, if you engage in this you lose the higher ground AND you place your own agents at risk of torture. After 9/11 emotions were high, people were rightfully enraged, some felt they had failed in their duties. So, extreme measures were taken.

I think it came down to "we are unprepared and don't have the intelligence we should have, we need answers fast, what's coming next if anything"? If there was suspicion of an imminent attack, well, all bets are off. My gut tells me this was more a reaction of fear by Western intelligence than some proven interrogation tactic.

Waterboarding works...every single time...it breaks Green Berets and Navy Seals.......it is not torture, it is a great way to break a prisoner........

So...what secrets do Green Berets and Navy SEALS give up when tortured? What military secrets did McCain give up?

It does not matter, he cracked… Heroes do not crack. He’s just a fucking career politician relies on stolen valor...

 

[bodecea]

Holy Toledo what a smackdown! I have my own reasons to hate McCain for all the wars he has backed and I've never truly bought into the accusations that others have made about him during the Vietnam war, but this is certainly a breathtaking statement.

And don't give me shit for linking to Gateway. His interview was on FOX.

"Well, she can’t use it anymore because it’s determined by Congress that it’s not legal. The fact is John McCain, it worked on John. That’s why they call him songbird John."

Lt. Gen. McInerney Rebukes John McCain on Torture: It Worked on John. That's Why They Called Him "Songbird John" (VIDEO)

The Songbird John story has been debunked as a conspiracy theory. Even I used to believe it. I was wrong.

'Songbird John' McCain? No evidence McCain helped ... - PolitiFact

Na, He was definitely a Tweety Bird.
You can see it in his demeanor...
There is a reason why George W. Bush won the military vote in his primary over McCain.

John McCain is a career politician 100% spineless and corrupt

Wow...where's your expertise coming from? How many years were you a POW?

It doesn’t matter, the fact remains Spineless McCain cracked… Hero’s don’t crack

You're so manly...you would never crack, would you?

 

[bodecea]

Torture doesn't work. The CIA knows this. General Mattis said this and he's been on the front lines where in a moments notice you or those you direct can lose their lives. In the pinch, when you are desperate for answers and believe there may be imminent attacks, I can accept it in limited scenarios as a last ditch effort to demand information, but ultimately, in general, it's mostly ineffective. There have been some who have identified some successes, and others who say it was a waste of time. Without any special inside knowledge, I tend to side with the latter.

I've watched some great documentaries on military intelligence interrogations, from the Vietnam Era and beyond. These guys were good, some of the best. The Germans in WWII were particularly creative, and there are outstanding OSS videos that illustrate how simple chat can give away so much. Some of the stuff I've seen dealt with hardened terrorists, in time, they were broken down and gave actionable intelligence. Not a finger was lifted to harm them. A serious game of psychological warfare in which they saved lives, instead of some primal torture action of revenge for the past, which won't help future U.S ops.

There is a way to get answers, torture could often be more of a liability than a benefit even if they do tell you information, as they often do so just to stop the suffering. So now you waste time and resources chasing ghosts, instead of having legitimate intel. That in itself can cost lives.

Moreover, if you engage in this you lose the higher ground AND you place your own agents at risk of torture. After 9/11 emotions were high, people were rightfully enraged, some felt they had failed in their duties. So, extreme measures were taken.

I think it came down to "we are unprepared and don't have the intelligence we should have, we need answers fast, what's coming next if anything"? If there was suspicion of an imminent attack, well, all bets are off. My gut tells me this was more a reaction of fear by Western intelligence than some proven interrogation tactic.

Waterboarding works...every single time...it breaks Green Berets and Navy Seals.......it is not torture, it is a great way to break a prisoner........

So...what secrets do Green Berets and Navy SEALS give up when tortured? What military secrets did McCain give up?

It does not matter, he cracked… Heroes do not crack. He’s just a fucking career politician relies on stolen valor...

You just accused Sen McCain of Stolen Valor. What a unsurprising thing for a trumpanzee to say while safely cuddled in the basement of their parental unit home.

 

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Democrats managed to turn the term "torture into a generic condition. Depending on your personal sensitivity, "torture" could mean anything from discomfort to embarrassment. More people drowned in Ted Kennedy's car than during enhanced interrogation known as "waterboarding" but democrats prefer to use the word "torture" even though elite U.S. Military units go through it.

Stop the bullshit
Waterboarding has always been considered torture ....up until Republicans endorsed the practice

Elite military units no longer go through waterboarding.

Only fucking pussies consider waterboarding torture, Our military... it’s part of their training.

Hannity still hasn't done it for charity like he promised....wonder why he's so afraid.

I know radio station DJs that have done it, all kinds of people have had it done.
Hannity should put his money where his mouth is… The fact remains it is not torture.

Just because progressives say it’s torture does not mean it is...

 

[pismoe]

I can understand having a problem with those in power ,who put our young in uniform to serve

I can't understand those who simply target those in uniform, and put them down for their service

~S~

------------------------------------------ i only do that if they think they are SPECIAL and 'mcstain' and many other vets think that they are Special and i don't like that Sparky .

 

[Rustic]

Holy Toledo what a smackdown! I have my own reasons to hate McCain for all the wars he has backed and I've never truly bought into the accusations that others have made about him during the Vietnam war, but this is certainly a breathtaking statement.

And don't give me shit for linking to Gateway. His interview was on FOX.

"Well, she can’t use it anymore because it’s determined by Congress that it’s not legal. The fact is John McCain, it worked on John. That’s why they call him songbird John."

Lt. Gen. McInerney Rebukes John McCain on Torture: It Worked on John. That's Why They Called Him "Songbird John" (VIDEO)

The Songbird John story has been debunked as a conspiracy theory. Even I used to believe it. I was wrong.

'Songbird John' McCain? No evidence McCain helped ... - PolitiFact

Na, He was definitely a Tweety Bird.
You can see it in his demeanor...
There is a reason why George W. Bush won the military vote in his primary over McCain.

John McCain is a career politician 100% spineless and corrupt

Wow...where's your expertise coming from? How many years were you a POW?

It doesn’t matter, the fact remains Spineless McCain cracked… Hero’s don’t crack

You're so manly...you would never crack, would you?

That has nothing to do with it, I’m not in that position. The fact remains spineless McCain cracked when it mattered the most... Hero’s do not crack.
Did you listen to that tape that he made? That has to be one of the most cowardly things I’ve ever heard...

 

[pismoe]

--- did you see General MCinerneys [sp] resume Bodecea . --- Thomas McInerney - Wikipedia ---

 

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Torture doesn't work. The CIA knows this. General Mattis said this and he's been on the front lines where in a moments notice you or those you direct can lose their lives. In the pinch, when you are desperate for answers and believe there may be imminent attacks, I can accept it in limited scenarios as a last ditch effort to demand information, but ultimately, in general, it's mostly ineffective. There have been some who have identified some successes, and others who say it was a waste of time. Without any special inside knowledge, I tend to side with the latter.

I've watched some great documentaries on military intelligence interrogations, from the Vietnam Era and beyond. These guys were good, some of the best. The Germans in WWII were particularly creative, and there are outstanding OSS videos that illustrate how simple chat can give away so much. Some of the stuff I've seen dealt with hardened terrorists, in time, they were broken down and gave actionable intelligence. Not a finger was lifted to harm them. A serious game of psychological warfare in which they saved lives, instead of some primal torture action of revenge for the past, which won't help future U.S ops.

There is a way to get answers, torture could often be more of a liability than a benefit even if they do tell you information, as they often do so just to stop the suffering. So now you waste time and resources chasing ghosts, instead of having legitimate intel. That in itself can cost lives.

Moreover, if you engage in this you lose the higher ground AND you place your own agents at risk of torture. After 9/11 emotions were high, people were rightfully enraged, some felt they had failed in their duties. So, extreme measures were taken.

I think it came down to "we are unprepared and don't have the intelligence we should have, we need answers fast, what's coming next if anything"? If there was suspicion of an imminent attack, well, all bets are off. My gut tells me this was more a reaction of fear by Western intelligence than some proven interrogation tactic.

Waterboarding works...every single time...it breaks Green Berets and Navy Seals.......it is not torture, it is a great way to break a prisoner........

So...what secrets do Green Berets and Navy SEALS give up when tortured? What military secrets did McCain give up?

It does not matter, he cracked… Heroes do not crack. He’s just a fucking career politician relies on stolen valor...

You just accused Sen McCain of Stolen Valor. What a unsurprising thing for a trumpanzee to say while safely cuddled in the basement of their parental unit home.

Na, your thinking of joe... He lives in his mother’s basement…

His fellow soldiers could not stand spineless McCain, there has to be a reason for that. John Kerry the same thing…
Just like recently, that cowardly piece of shit Beaudry Robert "Bowe" Bergdahl...

 

[pismoe]

I don’t know I was young then. But man, if he’d been shot down and subjected to torture for years, it would have been horrific for a Democrat to mock him while trying to spread more torture.

Being shot down and being a POW doesn't make him a hero.

Breaking under torture like he did didn't make him a traitor.

Lying about his part in the fire on the aircraft carrier and then running away makes him an asshole. He didn't even hang around for the funeral of the brave sailors who died. He went on in country R&R.

Being a Liberal voting RINO and a hate Trump dickhead also makes him an asshole.

He was also a loser not being able to beat a worthless affirmative action piece of shit Obama. He never really attacked Obama's for being a batshit crazy anti American Muslim Liberal. He was too weak to do what was necessary to make sure we didn't have Obama as President. All it would have taken was telling the truth like Trump did about Crooked Hillary.

Damn, so much rage and confusion in you

But a good reminder that the GOP will attack POW’s for their time as POW’s.

Scum will stay scum...we began to see that the first time trump attacked POWs.

-------------------------------- TRUMP didn't attack POW , he spoke his opinion of 'juan mcstain' Bodecea .

He attacked all POWs and you loved it.

--------------------------------------- The TRUMP gave his opinion on 'juan mcstain' Bodecea .