Maine’s passage of ‘right to food’ amendment stirs celebration, worry

[danielpalos]

First of all, you have not even come close to proving UC is illegal or unconstitutional.

Second of all, my comments was in reply to your post saying "Does anyone really believe anyone would be worse off with equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation?". And so, yes many people would be worse off because their net income dropped.

Not to You. But then right-wingers seem to be language-challenged.

And, you are assuming due to your ignorance of economics that would be the case.

 

[WinterBorn]

Not to You. But then right-wingers seem to be language-challenged.

And, you are assuming due to your ignorance of economics that would be the case.

I am assuming that having $2.5 billion taken from tax payers would have an impact on many, many people. And not a good one.

Your claims about the 2.0 multiplier would only work if the UC was funded the way it is now. By spending such a huge amount of tax money, the multiplier would be more like 0.8, like welfare.

 

[danielpalos]

I am assuming that having $2.5 billion taken from tax payers would have an impact on many, many people. And not a good one.

Your claims about the 2.0 multiplier would only work if the UC was funded the way it is now. By spending such a huge amount of tax money, the multiplier would be more like 0.8, like welfare.

You assume your own conclusion and provide no argument as to why what you allege would be the case.

 

[WinterBorn]

You assume your own conclusion and provide no argument as to why what you allege would be the case.

Because we have solid examples of both welfare and the current unemployment compensation. And your version of unemployment compensation is nearly identical to welfare, in both the source of funding and in the qualifications to draw it.

 

[danielpalos]

Because we have solid examples of both welfare and the current unemployment compensation. And your version of unemployment compensation is nearly identical to welfare, in both the source of funding and in the qualifications to draw it.

You are welcome to cite the studies. We already know right-wingers would rather be liars than moral and ethical true witness bearers.

 

[hadit]

You assume your own conclusion and provide no argument as to why what you allege would be the case.

You provide no rationale for your insistence that changing UC into a massive welfare program will produce a multiplier of 2.0.

 

[danielpalos]

You provide no rationale for your insistence that changing UC into a massive welfare program will produce a multiplier of 2.0.

Because that is Your disingenuous story, Right-Winger; not enough ethics or morals to go around?

 

[hadit]

Because that is Your disingenuous story, Right-Winger; not enough ethics or morals to go around?

You're not helping your cause, you causeless clueless leftwinger.

 

[WinterBorn]

You are welcome to cite the studies. We already know right-wingers would rather be liars than moral and ethical true witness bearers.

You have cited nothing except the single claim that has welfare with a 0.8 multiplier and unemployment compensation with a 2.0 multiplier. And then you want to change unemployment compensation to be exactly like welfare. The fact that you expect the 2.0 multiplier to continue to apply is laughable.

 

[danielpalos]

You have cited nothing except the single claim that has welfare with a 0.8 multiplier and unemployment compensation with a 2.0 multiplier. And then you want to change unemployment compensation to be exactly like welfare. The fact that you expect the 2.0 multiplier to continue to apply is laughable.

Not at all. That is just You making up Your story, storyteller.

 

[WinterBorn]

Not at all. That is just You making up Your story, storyteller.

The only difference between your plan and our current welfare is means testing. And you have shown nothing to even pretend to prove means testing drops the economic multiplier.

The main difference that makes UC such an economic stimulator is the fact that the funding is from the employers, not the tax payer. You remove that advantage.

 

[WEATHER53]

More virtue signaling responsibility removal.

 

[easyt65]

You may have the RIGHT to food, but with Biden's failed policies there isn't hardly any food on the shelves and you can't afford the food that is on the shelves....

 

[WEATHER53]

Right to Riches for all Bum Bitches

 

[WEATHER53]

The Right to Perpetual Happiness
More like perpetual sappiness.
Even better. Try and mandate that other always make and keep you happy and health secure.

 

[danielpalos]

The only difference between your plan and our current welfare is means testing. And you have shown nothing to even pretend to prove means testing drops the economic multiplier.

The main difference that makes UC such an economic stimulator is the fact that the funding is from the employers, not the tax payer. You remove that advantage.

You seem to understand nothing of economics. At-will is simply more efficient than any form of means testing.

 

[WinterBorn]

You seem to understand nothing of economics. At-will is simply more efficient than any form of means testing.

At-will, without means testing, means anyone can get a check. So the $2.5 billion would be much higher since that figure was based on only those without jobs would draw a check.

 

[danielpalos]

At-will, without means testing, means anyone can get a check. So the $2.5 billion would be much higher since that figure was based on only those without jobs would draw a check.

How did you reach your conclusion? Employment is at the will of either party and EDD handles compensation for being unemployed as an Agency of the State.

 

[danielpalos]

At-will, without means testing, means anyone can get a check. So the $2.5 billion would be much higher since that figure was based on only those without jobs would draw a check.

Equal protection of the law means less corruption. Only right-wingers have no problem with banana republicanism.

Total welfare improper payments and fraud of $129 billion is an enormous sum; greater than the entire budgets of TANF, Child Nutrition, Head Start, Job Training, WIC, Child Care, LIHEAP and the Lifeline programs, combined.

- Federal Safety Net

This page presents the amount of fraud in the U.S. welfare programs.

federalsafetynet.com

 

[WinterBorn]

How did you reach your conclusion? Employment is at the will of either party and EDD handles compensation for being unemployed as an Agency of the State.

And there are set qualifications for the compensation.

The reason you think welfare is not suitable is the means testing. And all means testing does is determine whether you can support yourself. If you can support yourself you should not be drawing a check from the tax payers. Welfare also, as I understand it, does not pay if you are capable of working and have no dependents. Which makes sense.