Man Accused in Grand Central Stabbing Had Repeated Run-Ins With Police

[iamwhatiseem]

And now you know...
Why, when you look at statistics, crime is "down" in most major cities.
This is why. They simply refuse to prosecute them.
Showing, again, Democrats will create their own "truth" if they don't like the real one.

And, of course, several of our committed liberals here - have made threads and comments about how crime is lower. And expect you to acknowledge it.

 

[JoeB131]

Kennedy signed legislation to end mental health hospitals within a couple of decades. They were questionable with treatments and rights to the point of being massively expensive. When government operated mental hospitals shut down in earnest, Reagan was president. Many male psyche aids were injured in these hospitals.

Kennedy signed legislation to end mental hospitals that were just warehousing the mentally ill in inhuman conditions.

That has nothing to do with the fact that Reagan slashed mental health treatment programs that would have helped these people.

 

[2aguy]

Two innocent people were stabbed in New York City because the district attorney and judges refused to lock up this violent serial criminal.

Liberals are pro-crime.

Man Accused in Grand Central Stabbing Had Repeated Run-Ins With Police

Steven Hutcherson’s ex-girlfriend said he had repeatedly banged on her door, and she had reported his mental condition to the authorities.

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Man Accused in Grand Central Stabbing Had Repeated Run-Ins With Police​

December 27, 2023

The man who stabbed two teenage sisters in Grand Central Terminal on Christmas Day had encountered the police at least 15 times this year and recently was taken to a Bronx hospital for psychological evaluation, Police Department records show.

Manhattan prosecutors charged the man, Steven Hutcherson, 36, with attempted murder and assault as hate crimes on Tuesday after they said he used an anti-white slur before stabbing the girls, 16 and 14.

They were visiting from Paraguay and were sitting with their parents in a cafe. In the criminal complaint, he is identified as Esteban Esono-Asue, another name he uses.

Mr. Hutcherson has been arrested at least two dozen times in New York City.

City and state agencies have repeatedly missed chances to prevent violence and have been shielded by state laws that hide those failures.

The democrats need out of control crime….so when they get to the crack down stage of their take over, most people will welcome it…..at first….

 

[2aguy]

Kennedy signed legislation to end mental hospitals that were just warehousing the mentally ill in inhuman conditions.

That has nothing to do with the fact that Reagan slashed mental health treatment programs that would have helped these people.

Kennedy did it, so you blame Reagan…typical asshole joe.

 

[2aguy]

And now you know...
Why, when you look at statistics, crime is "down" in most major cities.
This is why. They simply refuse to prosecute them.
Showing, again, Democrats will create their own "truth" if they don't like the real one.

And, of course, several of our committed liberals here - have made threads and comments about how crime is lower. And expect you to acknowledge it.

This why they demand that you say there are 3 lights, not 4………just ask Capt. Picard……….you will accept their reality or be destroyed…

 

[2aguy]

When the democrats decide to start their war on police, they knew crime Would go up……..that was a goal, not a problem………crime goes up, the police aren’t making arrests…so the crime stats go down……if the police screw up and actually make an arrest, then the democrat party judges and prosecutors take over and drop charges and release them…..keeping those stats down again…..

 

[2aguy]

Keep in mind…..the democrats are only pushing the lie about crime going down because it is now an election year……..

Once the election is over, they can talk about high crime rates again to push gun control….

 

[martybegan]

Kennedy signed legislation to end mental hospitals that were just warehousing the mentally ill in inhuman conditions.

That has nothing to do with the fact that Reagan slashed mental health treatment programs that would have helped these people.

How do you help them when you can't keep the ones that need the help the most (and refuse it repeatedly) under controlled treatment?

Then add in the advocates that seem to prefer these people remain on the streets, a threat to themselves and others.

 

[JoeB131]

Kennedy did it, so you blame Reagan…typical asshole joe.

Kennedy wasn't the one who slashed mental health spending. That was Reagan.

I never saw a homeless person until 1981. Then my neighborhood was swarming with them after Reagan slashed those programs, all panhandling around the liquor store at 63rd and Central Avenue.

 

[JoeB131]

Keep in mind…..the democrats are only pushing the lie about crime going down because it is now an election year……..

Once the election is over, they can talk about high crime rates again to push gun control….

Crime has gone down, but it's still too high and it's too easy for crazy people to get guns.

How do you help them when you can't keep the ones that need the help the most (and refuse it repeatedly) under controlled treatment?

Then add in the advocates that seem to prefer these people remain on the streets, a threat to themselves and others.

Well, you can start by actually funding outpatient programs. That would be a good start.

I have no problem with forcibly institutionalizing people who refuse to take their meds.

 

[martybegan]

Crime has gone down, but it's still too high and it's too easy for crazy people to get guns.





Well, you can start by actually funding outpatient programs. That would be a good start.

I have no problem with forcibly institutionalizing people who refuse to take their meds

You know how much NYC spends in outpatient and inpatient mental health care yearly?

Well talk to the advocates for the homeless about that, because that makes them refer to Dachau and Buchenwald.

 

[JoeB131]

You know how much NYC spends in outpatient and inpatient mental health care yearly?

Not enough, apparently. And if the numbers made your case, you'd be presenting them.

Well talk to the advocates for the homeless about that, because that makes them refer to Dachau and Buchenwald.

First, you have to make the treatment available, THEN we can talk about compelling it.

 

[martybegan]

Not enough, apparently. And if the numbers made your case, you'd be presenting them.


First, you have to make the treatment available, THEN we can talk about compelling it.

It will never be enough, because they can't do what needs to be done because their ideology prevents it.

So many treatments are available, but hamstrung by the mentality that these people only need to be nudged to get help.

And if you do a quick google, they spend around $3.5 BILLION a year on it.

Yet because it's government, they don't need to show any actual results.

 

[JoeB131]

It will never be enough, because they can't do what needs to be done because their ideology prevents it.

So many treatments are available, but hamstrung by the mentality that these people only need to be nudged to get help.

And if you do a quick google, they spend around $3.5 BILLION a year on it.

Yet because it's government, they don't need to show any actual results.

3.5 Billion for a population of 10 Million? that comes out to less than $350.00 a resident.

Given that 17% of the population suffers some kind of mental illness, that's really kind of a pittance.

 

[martybegan]

3.5 Billion for a population of 10 Million? that comes out to less than $350.00 a resident.

Given that 17% of the population suffers some kind of mental illness, that's really kind of a pittance.

That's just for homeless mentally ill, not for everyone.

And that doesn't count State spending, or federal.

 

[Mac-7]

It most certainly was. Reagan is the guy who slashed mental health services in the 1980's to give tax breaks to rich people.

I knew someone on the left would say so

First of all lib democrat governors using Reagan as their excuse 35 years after he left office is laughable

Besides mental health is a state and local responsibility

 

[martybegan]

I knew someone on the left would say so

First all lib democrat governors using Reagan as their excuse 35 years after he left office is laughable

Besides mental health is a state and local responsibility

And many States throw tons of money at it. The problem is Dems think their responsibility ends when the money is thrown. They don't care about actual results.

 

[JoeB131]

That's just for homeless mentally ill, not for everyone.

And that doesn't count State spending, or federal.

Can you provide a link?

The 3.5 billion comes from the state, out of a total state budget of 6.4 Billion. And it covers a variety of services.

Mental Health, Office of | Agency Appropriations | FY 2024 Executive Budget

Appropriations (in HTML format) requested for Mental Health, Office of in the FY 2024 New York State Executive Budget

www.budget.ny.gov

The Feds don't spend anything on this, thanks to Reagan. That's the point. That's why we have so many mentally ill homeless.

 

[JoeB131]

I knew someone on the left would say so

First all lib democrat governors using Reagan as their excuse 35 years after he left office is laughable

Besides mental health is a state and local responsibility

And Reagan was the one who slashed federal spending and shifted that burden to the states, that was the problem.

And many States throw tons of money at it. The problem is Dems think their responsibility ends when the money is thrown. They don't care about actual results.

Not when the money is inadequate.

6.4 billion for the State of NY, which has a population of 20 million, is a joke.

 

[martybegan]

Can you provide a link?

The 3.5 billion comes from the state, out of a total state budget of 6.4 Billion. And it covers a variety of services.

Mental Health, Office of | Agency Appropriations | FY 2024 Executive Budget

Appropriations (in HTML format) requested for Mental Health, Office of in the FY 2024 New York State Executive Budget

www.budget.ny.gov

The Feds don't spend anything on this, thanks to Reagan. That's the point. That's why we have so many mentally ill homeless.

Here’s How NYC’s $101 Billion Budget Addresses Homelessness

2.4B in the City budget, just for DHS, not counting what 5 or more other CITY agencies spend on the homeless.


That you can't find the numbers in just one place shows how bad the situation is.

HUD's budget was 68 Billion. They spend none of that on the homeless?