Man threatens to commit mass murder against CNN

[Nia88]

This loony tune is only the first of many. Trump keeps hyping these alt right crazies up. They're evidently going to act out their aggession.

Trump has given fire and life to right wing terrorist.

 

[Lysistrata]

You are a true nutter. Still making up legal theories that have no basis in fact and making up "facts" for yourself.

Ad hominem. Your own "facts" have a shifting basis in political surrealism.

The FBI got a complaint, its agents investigated, they found good cause to make an arrest, they filed a sworn affidavit, the arrest was carried out. End of story.

Not so fast, there. Justice in America simply is not that smooth, slick, and "efficient." Something smells a little bit off with this "deal." For one thing, there is a bar complaint if counsel for the defense waived the probable cause hearing. Second, there is a mistrial, if the case even got as far as trial, except it sounds as though counsel for the defense waived defense entirely.

Definitely not end of story, because you can't even put someone away for more than a month or two on a charge like that, unless you are planning murder in prison, which possibility is now attracting the attention of other investigators.

The feebies are playing Little League here, and now the Big League is starting to get involved. The thing is, someone literally made a *federal case* out of some purely verbal argument that never went beyond harsh words, nothing illegitimate obtained or even so much as an attempt to gain or influence anything wrongfully by any alleged force or threat of force.

Astounding. Sick. David has not so much as a sling or even one smooth stone in his sack against this news media Goliath.

For one thing, there is a bar complaint if counsel for the defense waived the probable cause hearing. Second, there is a mistrial, if the case even got as far as trial, except it sounds as though counsel for the defense waived defense entirely.​

Huh? What probable-cause-hearing, what defense counsel, what waiver? The arrest was made on the filing of a sworn affidavit by a law-enforcement officer detailing the evidence that supports a finding of probable cause to make an arrest, as is customary in the American system. When the judge signs it, the person is then taken into custody, arraigned in the next day or so, with the charges being read to the person arrested, and asked to enter a plea of "guilty" or "not guilty."

Apparently, this kid pleaded "not guilty" at his arraignment, and was allowed to walk out on a 10K unsecured bond, further proceedings to follow according to the court's scheduling of the matter. That's it. There is no more. There is no "probable cause" hearing. This does not exist in a criminal matter. As for defense counsel, I hope that he has hired a lawyer or can get a public defender.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Oops.

The male "knowingly and willfully transmitted in interstate and foreign commerce a cellular phone communication to Cable News Network (CNN), and that communication contained a threat to injure employees of CNN, in violation of 18 U.S.C. §875(c)."

Probable cause. Agent Smith found the number in an online database and analyzed the recorded audio.

Fucking idiots. Fake news, fake criminal charge.

Proper response: keep an eye on the situation for a while, try to find out why the man is so angry; maybe he had too much to drink or CNN spiked his coffee or something like that, or, like most Americans, he was angry at the fake news. If the man presents a credible threat, keep an eye on the general situation, not on him alone, and if not, drop it and move on, because you have more important work to do at the FBI.

CNN is a big company with plenty of competent private security and plenty of competent private investigators; they do not need to be molly-coddled by the FBI like some cute girl with a complaint that some guy is like sort of creepy and she just doesn't want to see him around her block.

Like most Trump supporters he's really angry at fake news. He doesn't know what news is fake, all he knows is that Trump always tells the truth, he thunked it all by hisself too, without the need for Trump to tell him it wuz true.

 

[equalizer_0]

he thunked it all by hisself too,

George Orwell. 1984. Thoughtcrime.

 

[frigidweirdo]

he thunked it all by hisself too,

George Orwell. 1984. Thoughtcrime.

You're just having brain farts and the desire to write them down?

 

[equalizer_0]

You're just having brain farts and the desire to write them down?

Right, right, right. My thoughts are so dangerous that they must be classified and suppressed. I'm just so important that I must be locked up in an insane asylum for the sake of our tender and delicate national security, lest my thoughts disturb respectable national socialists. Sure, uh-huh, yeah.

 

[peach174]

This loony tune is only the first of many. Trump keeps hyping these alt right crazies up. They're evidently going to act out their aggession.

Trump has given fire and life to right wing terrorist.

Trump?
Try the news itself, they need to change and that is what Trump is saying to them when he says fake news.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

This loony tune is only the first of many. Trump keeps hyping these alt right crazies up. They're evidently going to act out their aggession.

Trump has given fire and life to right wing terrorist.

At this rate, eventually we might have right wing loons showing up at democrat and leftist rallies and starting random violence. I guess what I'm saying is that the mainstream right might one day be as violent and undemocratic as the mainstream left! Then we'll be fucked, because the mainstream right still has guns and testosterone.

 

[peach174]

This loony tune is only the first of many. Trump keeps hyping these alt right crazies up. They're evidently going to act out their aggession.

Trump has given fire and life to right wing terrorist.

At this rate, eventually we might have right wing loons showing up at democrat and leftist rallies and starting random violence. I guess what I'm saying is that the mainstream right might one day be as violent and undemocratic as the mainstream left! Then we'll be fucked, because the mainstream right still has guns and testosterone.

There we go with the labeling again.
It's the lefts best tool, divide and concur.
The 2nd amendment is for all Americans, no matter what their ideology is.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

This loony tune is only the first of many. Trump keeps hyping these alt right crazies up. They're evidently going to act out their aggession.

Trump has given fire and life to right wing terrorist.

At this rate, eventually we might have right wing loons showing up at democrat and leftist rallies and starting random violence. I guess what I'm saying is that the mainstream right might one day be as violent and undemocratic as the mainstream left! Then we'll be fucked, because the mainstream right still has guns and testosterone.

There we go with the labeling again.
It's the lefts best tool, divide and concur.
The 2nd amendment is for all Americans, no matter what their ideology is.

Um. . . labeling? What?

 

[peach174]

This loony tune is only the first of many. Trump keeps hyping these alt right crazies up. They're evidently going to act out their aggession.

Trump has given fire and life to right wing terrorist.

At this rate, eventually we might have right wing loons showing up at democrat and leftist rallies and starting random violence. I guess what I'm saying is that the mainstream right might one day be as violent and undemocratic as the mainstream left! Then we'll be fucked, because the mainstream right still has guns and testosterone.

There we go with the labeling again.
It's the lefts best tool, divide and concur.
The 2nd amendment is for all Americans, no matter what their ideology is.

Um. . . labeling? What?

The left, middle and right have guns.
Our rights are for all.

 

[equalizer_0]

Then we'll be fucked, because the mainstream right still has guns and testosterone.

Sounds like some dude is missing his left testicle, and he's trying to f$÷% some gal who's missing her right breast.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

This loony tune is only the first of many. Trump keeps hyping these alt right crazies up. They're evidently going to act out their aggession.

Trump has given fire and life to right wing terrorist.

At this rate, eventually we might have right wing loons showing up at democrat and leftist rallies and starting random violence. I guess what I'm saying is that the mainstream right might one day be as violent and undemocratic as the mainstream left! Then we'll be fucked, because the mainstream right still has guns and testosterone.

There we go with the labeling again.
It's the lefts best tool, divide and concur.
The 2nd amendment is for all Americans, no matter what their ideology is.

Um. . . labeling? What?

The left, middle and right have guns.
Our rights are for all.

I never said, or even implied, that the 2nd amendment is only for some. I'm simply acknowledging that the political wing pushing for gun control and gun bans is not the political wing whose adherents are those particularly likely to be armed. Didn't realize that was such a hard line to follow.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Then we'll be fucked, because the mainstream right still has guns and testosterone.

Sounds like some dude is missing his left testicle, and he's trying to f$÷% some gal who's missing her right breast.

Swing and a miss. Keep at it, though. Comedy's like anything, you get better with practice.

 

[peach174]

This loony tune is only the first of many. Trump keeps hyping these alt right crazies up. They're evidently going to act out their aggession.

Trump has given fire and life to right wing terrorist.

At this rate, eventually we might have right wing loons showing up at democrat and leftist rallies and starting random violence. I guess what I'm saying is that the mainstream right might one day be as violent and undemocratic as the mainstream left! Then we'll be fucked, because the mainstream right still has guns and testosterone.

There we go with the labeling again.
It's the lefts best tool, divide and concur.
The 2nd amendment is for all Americans, no matter what their ideology is.

Um. . . labeling? What?

The left, middle and right have guns.
Our rights are for all.

I never said, or even implied, that the 2nd amendment is only for some. I'm simply acknowledging that the political wing pushing for gun control and gun bans is not the political wing whose adherents are those particularly likely to be armed. Didn't realize that was such a hard line to follow.

It isn't a hard line to follow. I thought it was very funny.
But....
Right wing loons.
Left wing loons.
See?

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

At this rate, eventually we might have right wing loons showing up at democrat and leftist rallies and starting random violence. I guess what I'm saying is that the mainstream right might one day be as violent and undemocratic as the mainstream left! Then we'll be fucked, because the mainstream right still has guns and testosterone.

There we go with the labeling again.
It's the lefts best tool, divide and concur.
The 2nd amendment is for all Americans, no matter what their ideology is.

Um. . . labeling? What?

The left, middle and right have guns.
Our rights are for all.

I never said, or even implied, that the 2nd amendment is only for some. I'm simply acknowledging that the political wing pushing for gun control and gun bans is not the political wing whose adherents are those particularly likely to be armed. Didn't realize that was such a hard line to follow.

It isn't a hard line to follow. I thought it was very funny.
But....
Right wing loons.
Left wing loons.
See?

Lol, I honestly don't see. What are you getting at?

 

[peach174]

There we go with the labeling again.
It's the lefts best tool, divide and concur.
The 2nd amendment is for all Americans, no matter what their ideology is.

Um. . . labeling? What?

The left, middle and right have guns.
Our rights are for all.

I never said, or even implied, that the 2nd amendment is only for some. I'm simply acknowledging that the political wing pushing for gun control and gun bans is not the political wing whose adherents are those particularly likely to be armed. Didn't realize that was such a hard line to follow.

It isn't a hard line to follow. I thought it was very funny.
But....
Right wing loons.
Left wing loons.
See?

Lol, I honestly don't see. What are you getting at?

that's ok, no biggie.
It's about how we have labeled everything by the left.
I'm sick of the divisions rather than being united.

 

[xyz]

Oops.

The male "knowingly and willfully transmitted in interstate and foreign commerce a cellular phone communication to Cable News Network (CNN), and that communication contained a threat to injure employees of CNN, in violation of 18 U.S.C. §875(c)."

Probable cause. Agent Smith found the number in an online database and analyzed the recorded audio.

Fucking idiots. Fake news, fake criminal charge.

Proper response: keep an eye on the situation for a while, try to find out why the man is so angry; maybe he had too much to drink or CNN spiked his coffee or something like that, or, like most Americans, he was angry at the fake news. If the man presents a credible threat, keep an eye on the general situation, not on him alone, and if not, drop it and move on, because you have more important work to do at the FBI.

CNN is a big company with plenty of competent private security and plenty of competent private investigators; they do not need to be molly-coddled by the FBI like some cute girl with a complaint that some guy is like sort of creepy and she just doesn't want to see him around her block.

So then someone can threaten the occupants of the White House, because there are many Secret Service personnel around? That would seem to be your conclusion.

That probably happens a lot.

Yes it does, and with all presidents. Which doesn't mean they don't investigate.

 

[equalizer_0]

Yes it does, and with all presidents. Which doesn't mean they don't investigate.

So unless they have an actual warrant, they can go gumshoe somewhere else. The Office of the President of the United States of America has an orderly line of succession in case of death or disability, and in no event devolves upon any Secret Service personnel.

This Secret Service staff is getting too much rank and too much access to too much information.

Q clearance and all that? We needn't be practicing psychiatry, haircutting, astrology, and forcible commitment to mental hospitals on behalf of the President.

This is indeed a shame and a disgrace to the entire country.