Martial Law...Would you support Trump taking such measure?

[Blaine Sweeter]

Is there really any other way to regain control of federal law and restore order?
Do you really see Americans taking their country back by way of standard operating procedures through the bureaucracy?

I know the notion of such aggressive action scares the piss out of you “give me liberty or give me death” types...but stop and think for a second...you are losing you liberties to the AOC’s and the commie-lites one day at a time anyhoo.

P.S.- Don’t let this thread scare the piss out of you...there is no topic on this board that is more POLITICAL than this.

You're the one who's scared piss-less, loser.

 

[Blaine Sweeter]

Give the orange buffoon credit where credit is due:

He certainly has brought out what these people have been, all along.

So true.

 

[Papageorgio]

Correct, entering a bar is a personal choice just like entering a place that asks to see a vax card. Why do you take issue with one and not the other?

What health information am I needing to give to enter a bar? BTW, I am not into going to bars, not my scene.

 

[Papageorgio]

Asking people for their papers to deport them is very very different than asking people to show they took measures to protect themselves and others during a pandemic before entering a business or crowded area. Most people want to do what's good for their community but there is a this wave of idiots that seem to think they are fighting the good fight for liberty by spreading lies and pushing back against everything others are trying to do to keep others safe. All that does is fuel the other side to get even more stupid with the regulations.

Like I said, a business can do what they want and I can do what I want, not sure why it bugs you so much that I don't go to such places.

 

[Papageorgio]

What specifically are you referring to when you say the government is requiring you to show your vaccination card?

I am not under interrogation am I? You ignore my questions but want me to answer all yours? Not the way I work. Try again.

 

[Slade3200]

Why is my health anyone's business? Why should I need to carry my vaccine card around with me all the time? Why you want me to show a card? Your concern about my life seems immature. Showing my vaccine card to eat at an establishment seems immature and uninformed. Vaccinated or not you can spread the virus. Vaccinated or not you can get the virus. The big difference is the severity.

If your health has the potential of infecting other people with a virus during a world wide pandemic then it becomes other peoples business. Just as the health of somebody who is HIV positive is their sexual partners business. You would agree that not disclosing that to partner should be criminal, wouldn't you? This is a lesser degree of that.

I just have a photo of my vax card on my phone easy.

I don't want you to show your card. I told you I don't think vax card mandates are productive.

I don't know what you mean about my concern for your life being immature.

Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.

 

[Slade3200]

What health information am I needing to give to enter a bar? BTW, I am not into going to bars, not my scene.

You are giving your Age, Address, Weight, Height, Eye Color and donor status to enter a bar. Why are you ok with that and not the other?

 

[Slade3200]

Like I said, a business can do what they want and I can do what I want, not sure why it bugs you so much that I don't go to such places.

I doesn't bug me, you can do whatever you want. I'm just curious about your mentality and why you make the choices that you make. Just having a conversation here

 

[Faun]

Is there really any other way to regain control of federal law and restore order?
Do you really see Americans taking their country back by way of standard operating procedures through the bureaucracy?

I know the notion of such aggressive action scares the piss out of you “give me liberty or give me death” types...but stop and think for a second...you are losing you liberties to the AOC’s and the commie-lites one day at a time anyhoo.

P.S.- Don’t let this thread scare the piss out of you...there is no topic on this board that is more POLITICAL than this.

Great, so you support Biden declaring martial law, huh?

 

[Papageorgio]

If your health has the potential of infecting other people with a virus during a world wide pandemic then it becomes other peoples business. Just as the health of somebody who is HIV positive is their sexual partners business. You would agree that not disclosing that to partner should be criminal, wouldn't you? This is a lesser degree of that.

I just have a photo of my vax card on my phone easy.

I don't want you to show your card. I told you I don't think vax card mandates are productive.

I don't know what you mean about my concern for your life being immature.

Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.

Like I said, if you need to know my medical status, I won't be around you. I don't want or need to deal with it. Not a big concern on my part, I content not to go to places.

 

[Rigby5]

The only way any epidemic ever ends is for enough people to recover for it to end from herd immunity being achieved.
Vaccine normally can help, but these mRNA injections can be real vaccines because they only get your cells to grow spike proteins, and the T-cells of your immune system can't store that.

 

[Billy000]

I am not under interrogation am I? You ignore my questions but want me to answer all yours? Not the way I work. Try again.

You’re making a comparison to border patrol which is a government entity. You’re saying that the US is becoming a third world country yet you can’t give examples of the government making these requirements.

 

[Slade3200]

Like I said, if you need to know my medical status, I won't be around you. I don't want or need to deal with it. Not a big concern on my part, I content not to go to places.

I get thats your position, I'm just asking why you care so much. Personally for myself even though I think some of these regulations are silly, I don't really care. They are easy to do, I know they make others feel safer, so its no big deal. Why is it big enough of a deal to you to boycott and separate yourself??

 

[Slade3200]

The only way any epidemic ever ends is for enough people to recover for it to end from herd immunity being achieved.
Vaccine normally can help, but these mRNA injections can be real vaccines because they only get your cells to grow spike proteins, and the T-cells of your immune system can't store that.

COVID will not be eradicated like small pox... The vaccines are effective in slowing spread and protecting a large percentage against sever symptoms. As we build our immune systems to fight Covid better and as we see strains like this latest that aren't as lethal then COVID becomes more like a flu. That is the goal. Its just a shame that we can't all be on board to help each other get there.

 

[Papageorgio]

I doesn't bug me, you can do whatever you want. I'm just curious about your mentality and why you make the choices that you make. Just having a conversation here

Because that is what I want to do. No other reason, no deep seated anything. My life is my life, I don't see a need for anyone butting in over whether I am vaccinated or not. I see no need to show proof of vaccination. No one has given me any good reason for me to show my card.

 

[Slade3200]

Because that is what I want to do. No other reason, no deep seated anything. My life is my life, I don't see a need for anyone butting in over whether I am vaccinated or not. I see no need to show proof of vaccination. No one has given me any good reason for me to show my card.

I don’t see any good reason for me to have to wear shoes in a restaurant yet I do so because that’s what they ask for. We do things in life all the time that we don’t understand the reasoning for. Why is this one hitting you so hard to the point where you are ostracizing yourself?

I understand “because you can and you want to” I’m just asking WHY?

 

[Dragonlady]

My opinions have morphed over the last few years. I have changed stances on many political issues. I don't believe voter fraud on either side of the political aisle is an issue. The left's Russia BS, the right's fraud counts BS are all nonsense and political posturing to divide the country. Democrat and Republican leadership are despicable and I don't trust either party. The election fraud occurs on both sides but it is hardly enough to throw an election, so mail in votes are fine by me. Going to a hockey game isn't a right so they don't need to see squat and I am not that interested in giving up my privacy for a game or eat at a restaurant. You can laugh all you want, I don't give a shit that you give up your privacy, I think that is stupid.

In other words, you've just given on on discerning who is really lying to you, and the Russian Investigation is NOT political BS or nonsense. Russia is using hacker wars to attack elections in NATO countries and there is solid evidence it's happening, with the backing of oligarchs around the world, including Rupert Murdoch and Robert Mercer.

The Mercers were behind Cambridge Analytica which provided data analysis for the Russians around the Brexit Vote in Great Britain. Russia pushed the breakup of the EU.

Russian hackers stole documents from assorted French politicians and they used the genuine headers to create realistic forgeries against President Macron, in the hopes of aiding Marie Le Pen, in exactly the same way has Russian hackers used real emails and correspondence from Burisma to create the fake "Hunter's laptop", and they planted the information in pretty much the same way.

But you're not smart enough to discern the truth from the lies Republicans tell you so you say "A pox on both their houses", and say they're "both equally dishonest", when in reality only one party is operating from a place of dishonesty and lies, and that's Republicans.

I say this as a non American who has watch the Republican Party lie to the American people, divide and mislead them in regards to race relations, the economy, taxes, wealth and income. Everything Republicans have told you has proven over and over again, to be a lie. Every time the economy crashes, it's a result of Republican tax cuts and economic policies.

Every time the economy crashes, Democrats bail you out and get you back on track, and you throw them out of office for it and put the Republicans back in, in the mistaken belief the economy is better under Republicans. It is not, and it has never been better for working Americans under a Republican government.

 

[Papageorgio]

I get thats your position, I'm just asking why you care so much. Personally for myself even though I think some of these regulations are silly, I don't really care. They are easy to do, I know they make others feel safer, so its no big deal. Why is it big enough of a deal to you to boycott and separate yourself??

It's no big deal for me, I just don't go, easy enough for me. If I am not there then they will feel safe as well, to me it is no harm no foul on either side. I don't mind not going somewhere, my decision doesn't effect their health either way does it? There is an app called NFHS which has set up cameras in high school gyms, football fields and baseball fields that broadcast games all over the country. I use that to watch my granddaughter, who lives out of state, $10.99 a month and no one needs to know my vaccination status. I also eat at home more so that helps local grocery stores make money instead of restuarants.

You are giving your Age, Address, Weight, Height, Eye Color and donor status to enter a bar. Why are you ok with that and not the other?

Fine if you want to. Like I said I am not a bar person. If I drink anything, it's at home, it is safer. If you look at me, you will know my eye color, weight, age and height anyway. You haven't given me any reason to give out my health status to a restaurant when I can go to any other restaurant and not have to give my health status.

 

[Papageorgio]

I don’t see any good reason for me to have to wear shoes in a restaurant yet I do so because that’s what they ask for. We do things in life all the time that we don’t understand the reasoning for. Why is this one hitting you so hard to the point where you are ostracizing yourself?

I understand “because you can and you want to” I’m just asking WHY?

I'm not ostracizing myself, I can go to any restaurant I want, why do I need to go to a place that requires me to show a card? I am perfectly happy to eat at other restaurants in my city. It is just a choice.

 

[Papageorgio]

In other words, you've just given on on discerning who is really lying to you, and the Russian Investigation is NOT political BS or nonsense. Russia is using hacker wars to attack elections in NATO countries and there is solid evidence it's happening, with the backing of oligarchs around the world, including Rupert Murdoch and Robert Mercer.

The Mercers were behind Cambridge Analytica which provided data analysis for the Russians around the Brexit Vote in Great Britain. Russia pushed the breakup of the EU.

Russian hackers stole documents from assorted French politicians and they used the genuine headers to create realistic forgeries against President Macron, in the hopes of aiding Marie Le Pen, in exactly the same way has Russian hackers used real emails and correspondence from Burisma to create the fake "Hunter's laptop", and they planted the information in pretty much the same way.

But you're not smart enough to discern the truth from the lies Republicans tell you so you say "A pox on both their houses", and say they're "both equally dishonest", when in reality only one party is operating from a place of dishonesty and lies, and that's Republicans.

I say this as a non American who has watch the Republican Party lie to the American people, divide and mislead them in regards to race relations, the economy, taxes, wealth and income. Everything Republicans have told you has proven over and over again, to be a lie. Every time the economy crashes, it's a result of Republican tax cuts and economic policies.

Every time the economy crashes, Democrats bail you out and get you back on track, and you throw them out of office for it and put the Republicans back in, in the mistaken belief the economy is better under Republicans. It is not, and it has never been better for working Americans under a Republican government.

Pure BS, I have shown you article after article after article showing that the economy crash in 2000, 2008 were many factors not just Republicans fault. So, you continue to lie, I tire of your BS, it is obvious anything I link you fail to read, continue to stay a stupid person. You come from a racist nation that fails to see their racism and your dear leader is a racist, sexist and misogynist. . If you were a non-partisan your words would carry weight, you aren't so they don't.