Marxist/Communist/Fascist/Liberal/Progressive all starts with Socialism(A history lesson)

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Communist, Fascist, Socialist, Capitalism are political/economic terms we use to describe people or policies we like or don't like. The terms as used generally have no validity. One of the amazing things is that we went all through the cold war and our educational systems offered little or no real study of the various systems. I suspect it is was such a hot topic that schools wanted no part of it. Can we even begin to imagine the public's reaction if a local high school gave a course in communism?

There is no value in any distinction between the various facets of Left-think... As they remain relevant only to the Relativism that is LEFT-think.

As I've noted many times... What you're discussing is nothing short of the addled reasoning that manifests EVIL!

Doubt that and I would challenge the reader to consider every Leftist experiment and show where it resulted in anything except chaos, calamity and / or catastrophe.

Was the USA a liberal experiment?

The United States was a Liberal experiment. Liberal with a capital "L". Meaning the advocacy for liberty, which serves as the very antithesis of Left-think.

Which was a profound and heretofore an unprecedented success... With no close second,
until of course The United States became infected with and succumbed to the unenviable infection of Relativism.

Sadly the only known cure for such is death, by fire.

Which even more sadly is rapidly approaching and there's not a dam' thing that any of us can do to stop it.

 

[regent]

Communist, Fascist, Socialist, Capitalism are political/economic terms we use to describe people or policies we like or don't like. The terms as used generally have no validity. One of the amazing things is that we went all through the cold war and our educational systems offered little or no real study of the various systems. I suspect it is was such a hot topic that schools wanted no part of it. Can we even begin to imagine the public's reaction if a local high school gave a course in communism?

There is no value in any distinction between the various facets of Left-think... As they remain relevant only to the Relativism that is LEFT-think.

As I've noted many times... What you're discussing is nothing short of the addled reasoning that manifests EVIL!

Doubt that and I would challenge the reader to consider every Leftist experiment and show where it resulted in anything except chaos, calamity and / or catastrophe.

Was the USA a liberal experiment?

The United States was a Liberal experiment. Liberal with a capital "L". Meaning the advocacy for liberty, which serves as the very antithesis of Left-think.

Which was a profound and heretofore an unprecedented success... With no close second,
until of course The United States became infected with and succumbed to the unenviable infection of Relativism.

Sadly the only known cure for such is death, by fire.

Which even more sadly is rapidly approaching and there's not a dam' thing that any of us can do to stop it.

I have been scared to death by socialism, communism, fascism, capitalism, unionism, welfareism, Stalinism, Hitlerism, freedomism and every other ism known to man but not relativism. So what is relativism?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Communist, Fascist, Socialist, Capitalism are political/economic terms we use to describe people or policies we like or don't like. The terms as used generally have no validity. One of the amazing things is that we went all through the cold war and our educational systems offered little or no real study of the various systems. I suspect it is was such a hot topic that schools wanted no part of it. Can we even begin to imagine the public's reaction if a local high school gave a course in communism?

There is no value in any distinction between the various facets of Left-think... As they remain relevant only to the Relativism that is LEFT-think.

As I've noted many times... What you're discussing is nothing short of the addled reasoning that manifests EVIL!

Doubt that and I would challenge the reader to consider every Leftist experiment and show where it resulted in anything except chaos, calamity and / or catastrophe.

Was the USA a liberal experiment?

The United States was a Liberal experiment. Liberal with a capital "L". Meaning the advocacy for liberty, which serves as the very antithesis of Left-think.

Which was a profound and heretofore an unprecedented success... With no close second,
until of course The United States became infected with and succumbed to the unenviable infection of Relativism.

Sadly the only known cure for such is death, by fire.

Which even more sadly is rapidly approaching and there's not a dam' thing that any of us can do to stop it.

I have been scared to death by socialism, communism, fascism, capitalism, unionism, welfareism, Stalinism, Hitlerism, freedomism and every other ism known to man but not relativism. So what is relativism?

You were scared to death of the freedom to exchange goods and services to the mutual benefit of both parties?

Grow a pair Alice...

Relativism is the doctrine which holds that knowledge, truth, and morality exist only in relation to one's cultural, societal, historical and personal context, and as such can never be the result of soundly reasoned absolutes.

It is through this, perversion of reason, wherein relativism axiomatically rejects the objectivity that is essential to truth.

And with truth being essential to trust and, both truth and trust being essential to the establishment of a soundly reasoned morality, and because those three are the fundamental element of Justice... it becomes clear to reasonable people, that Relativism can never serve justice and those cultures either based or mired in Relativism fail in prolonged, excruciating death... usually death of the fiery variety... such as that which the US is presently experiencing, here just short of the fiery part.

 

[regent]

Communist, Fascist, Socialist, Capitalism are political/economic terms we use to describe people or policies we like or don't like. The terms as used generally have no validity. One of the amazing things is that we went all through the cold war and our educational systems offered little or no real study of the various systems. I suspect it is was such a hot topic that schools wanted no part of it. Can we even begin to imagine the public's reaction if a local high school gave a course in communism?

There is no value in any distinction between the various facets of Left-think... As they remain relevant only to the Relativism that is LEFT-think.

As I've noted many times... What you're discussing is nothing short of the addled reasoning that manifests EVIL!

Doubt that and I would challenge the reader to consider every Leftist experiment and show where it resulted in anything except chaos, calamity and / or catastrophe.

Was the USA a liberal experiment?

The United States was a Liberal experiment. Liberal with a capital "L". Meaning the advocacy for liberty, which serves as the very antithesis of Left-think.

Which was a profound and heretofore an unprecedented success... With no close second,
until of course The United States became infected with and succumbed to the unenviable infection of Relativism.

Sadly the only known cure for such is death, by fire.

Which even more sadly is rapidly approaching and there's not a dam' thing that any of us can do to stop it.

I have been scared to death by socialism, communism, fascism, capitalism, unionism, welfareism, Stalinism, Hitlerism, freedomism and every other ism known to man but not relativism. So what is relativism?

You were scared to death of the freedom to exchange goods and services to the mutual benefit of both parties?

Grow a pair Alice...

Relativism is the doctrine which holds that knowledge, truth, and morality exist only in relation to one's cultural, societal, historical and personal context, and as such can never be the result of soundly reasoned absolutes.

It is through this, perversion of reason, wherein relativism axiomatically rejects the objectivity that is essential to truth.

And with truth being essential to trust and, both truth and trust being essential to the establishment of a soundly reasoned morality, and because those three are the fundamental element of Justice... it becomes clear to reasonable people, that Relativism can never serve justice and those cultures either based or mired in Relativism fail in prolonged, excruciating death... usually death of the fiery variety... such as that which the US is presently experiencing, here just short of the fiery part.

Wow, that sounds worse than socialism. I mean how do we get to those soundly reasoned absolutes. Wonder if our framers were aware of this reason thing, they may have, as it was the Age of Enlightenment which was based on reason.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

There is no value in any distinction between the various facets of Left-think... As they remain relevant only to the Relativism that is LEFT-think.

As I've noted many times... What you're discussing is nothing short of the addled reasoning that manifests EVIL!

Doubt that and I would challenge the reader to consider every Leftist experiment and show where it resulted in anything except chaos, calamity and / or catastrophe.

Was the USA a liberal experiment?

The United States was a Liberal experiment. Liberal with a capital "L". Meaning the advocacy for liberty, which serves as the very antithesis of Left-think.

Which was a profound and heretofore an unprecedented success... With no close second,
until of course The United States became infected with and succumbed to the unenviable infection of Relativism.

Sadly the only known cure for such is death, by fire.

Which even more sadly is rapidly approaching and there's not a dam' thing that any of us can do to stop it.

I have been scared to death by socialism, communism, fascism, capitalism, unionism, welfareism, Stalinism, Hitlerism, freedomism and every other ism known to man but not relativism. So what is relativism?

You were scared to death of the freedom to exchange goods and services to the mutual benefit of both parties?

Grow a pair Alice...

Relativism is the doctrine which holds that knowledge, truth, and morality exist only in relation to one's cultural, societal, historical and personal context, and as such can never be the result of soundly reasoned absolutes.

It is through this, perversion of reason, wherein relativism axiomatically rejects the objectivity that is essential to truth.

And with truth being essential to trust and, both truth and trust being essential to the establishment of a soundly reasoned morality, and because those three are the fundamental element of Justice... it becomes clear to reasonable people, that Relativism can never serve justice and those cultures either based or mired in Relativism fail in prolonged, excruciating death... usually death of the fiery variety... such as that which the US is presently experiencing, here just short of the fiery part.

Wow, that sounds worse than socialism. I mean how do we get to those soundly reasoned absolutes. Wonder if our framers were aware of this reason thing, they may have, as it was the Age of Enlightenment which was based on reason.

There's no distinction between socialism and Relativism... As relativism is the strain of reason on which Left-think rests... Along with every other facet of evil.

Relativism is the operating system for sociopathy.

This the engine of evil.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Why is it that Social Security always seems to be going bankrupt and not Welfare? Because the liberals know that those working and contributing the social security will lose something. Those on welfare don't really give a shit, so there is no worry about it. Do away with welfare and those lazy shlobs would have to get a job, then contribute to social security making it solvent. Dems don't want that, because those that work , usually vote republican.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

How to spot a sociopath - 10 red flags that could save you from being swept under the influence of a charismatic nut job - NaturalNews.com

1) Sociopaths are charming. Sociopaths have high charisma and tend to attract a following just because people want to be around them.
#2) Sociopaths are more spontaneous and intense than other people. They tend to do bizarre, sometimes erratic things that most regular people wouldn't do.
#3) Sociopaths are incapable of feeling shame, guilt or remorse. Their brains simply lack the circuitry to process such emotions.
#4) Sociopaths invent outrageous lies about their experiences. They wildly exaggerate things to the point of absurdity, but when they describe it to you in a storytelling format, for some reason it sounds believable at the time.
#5) Sociopaths seek to dominate others and "win" at all costs. They hate to lose any argument or fight and will viciously defend their web of lies, even to the point of logical absurdity.
#6) Sociopaths tend to be highly intelligent, but they use their brainpower to deceive others rather than empower them. Their high IQs often makes them dangerous.
#7) Sociopaths are incapable of love and are entirely self-serving. They may feign love or compassion in order to get what they want, but they don't actually FEEL love in the way that you or I do.
8) Sociopaths speak poetically. They are master wordsmiths, able to deliver a running "stream of consciousness" monologue that is both intriguing and hypnotic.
#9) Sociopaths never apologize. They are never wrong. They never feel guilt. They can never apologize. Even if shown proof that they were wrong, they will refuse to apologize and instead go on the attack.
#10) Sociopaths are delusional and literally believe that what they say becomes truth merely because they say it!

Let me give a few examples of the sociopath.
#1 you have to be charming to be a politician. Even Adolf Hitler mesmerized his goosestepping mind numbed useful idiots whom many of them died following him.
#2 At this point what difference does it make that Ambassador Stevens and 3 other Americans died in Benghazi because Hillary Clinton didn't watch their backs and did not send troops to rescue them.
#3. Man has caused the world to heat up, it is called global warming, but of course man was not around when other ice ages ended up heating up and CO2 is only .04% which is 4 tenths of 1% of the Earths atmosphere.
#4. When Sociopaths are telling a lie, watch their hands, they have to move constantly so you will not see the shiftiness of their eyes.
#5 When you confront the sociopath and catch them in their lie, they immediately call you names to get you off guard. Rules for Radicals, the ends justify the means.
#6 Notice the word "TEND" most come out of college with some type of degree, but since sociopaths "LACK" wisdom they have no clue how to make things work, which is why America is "BROKEN" today.
#7 Bill Clinton is married to Hillary, yet he constantly cheated on his wife. Same with John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Ted Kennedy, John Edwards, Jessie LoveChild Jackson, and many other sociopaths. It is just their nature to use marriage for convenience.
#8 The goosestepping, kool aid drinking, mind numbed, useful idiots who voted for Obama not once but twice think he is a masterful speaker. I guess if I had a professional team of writers, so could I.
#9 They never say they are sorry, it goes back to #3 as they feel no guilt or remorse. Obama has been caught in a lie, many times, and most normal people would apologize for not being truthful, Obama just double downs with more lies.
#10 The economy is recovering, the economy is recovering, the economy is recovering. There I said it 3 times, so it must be true. The problem with sociopaths , they lie, over and over, trying to make it happen, but then the FACTS come out like the .02% GDP, and it smacks down the lies of the great economy over and over. Or the Earth is warming, and the global warming scientist get trapped in Antarctic Ice Sheets in the middle of summer down there.

 

[NYcarbineer]

How to spot a sociopath - 10 red flags that could save you from being swept under the influence of a charismatic nut job - NaturalNews.com

1) Sociopaths are charming. Sociopaths have high charisma and tend to attract a following just because people want to be around them.
#2) Sociopaths are more spontaneous and intense than other people. They tend to do bizarre, sometimes erratic things that most regular people wouldn't do.
#3) Sociopaths are incapable of feeling shame, guilt or remorse. Their brains simply lack the circuitry to process such emotions.
#4) Sociopaths invent outrageous lies about their experiences. They wildly exaggerate things to the point of absurdity, but when they describe it to you in a storytelling format, for some reason it sounds believable at the time.
#5) Sociopaths seek to dominate others and "win" at all costs. They hate to lose any argument or fight and will viciously defend their web of lies, even to the point of logical absurdity.
#6) Sociopaths tend to be highly intelligent, but they use their brainpower to deceive others rather than empower them. Their high IQs often makes them dangerous.
#7) Sociopaths are incapable of love and are entirely self-serving. They may feign love or compassion in order to get what they want, but they don't actually FEEL love in the way that you or I do.
8) Sociopaths speak poetically. They are master wordsmiths, able to deliver a running "stream of consciousness" monologue that is both intriguing and hypnotic.
#9) Sociopaths never apologize. They are never wrong. They never feel guilt. They can never apologize. Even if shown proof that they were wrong, they will refuse to apologize and instead go on the attack.
#10) Sociopaths are delusional and literally believe that what they say becomes truth merely because they say it!

Let me give a few examples of the sociopath.
#1 you have to be charming to be a politician. Even Adolf Hitler mesmerized his goosestepping mind numbed useful idiots whom many of them died following him.
#2 At this point what difference does it make that Ambassador Stevens and 3 other Americans died in Benghazi because Hillary Clinton didn't watch their backs and did not send troops to rescue them.
#3. Man has caused the world to heat up, it is called global warming, but of course man was not around when other ice ages ended up heating up and CO2 is only .04% which is 4 tenths of 1% of the Earths atmosphere.
#4. When Sociopaths are telling a lie, watch their hands, they have to move constantly so you will not see the shiftiness of their eyes.
#5 When you confront the sociopath and catch them in their lie, they immediately call you names to get you off guard. Rules for Radicals, the ends justify the means.
#6 Notice the word "TEND" most come out of college with some type of degree, but since sociopaths "LACK" wisdom they have no clue how to make things work, which is why America is "BROKEN" today.
#7 Bill Clinton is married to Hillary, yet he constantly cheated on his wife. Same with John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Ted Kennedy, John Edwards, Jessie LoveChild Jackson, and many other sociopaths. It is just their nature to use marriage for convenience.
#8 The goosestepping, kool aid drinking, mind numbed, useful idiots who voted for Obama not once but twice think he is a masterful speaker. I guess if I had a professional team of writers, so could I.
#9 They never say they are sorry, it goes back to #3 as they feel no guilt or remorse. Obama has been caught in a lie, many times, and most normal people would apologize for not being truthful, Obama just double downs with more lies.
#10 The economy is recovering, the economy is recovering, the economy is recovering. There I said it 3 times, so it must be true. The problem with sociopaths , they lie, over and over, trying to make it happen, but then the FACTS come out like the .02% GDP, and it smacks down the lies of the great economy over and over. Or the Earth is warming, and the global warming scientist get trapped in Antarctic Ice Sheets in the middle of summer down there.

You're a classic example of someone who's been Hannitized.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Fascism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Why not go directly to the expert comrade, this is from the guy who invented it

"Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Crony capitalism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Crony capitalism is a term describing an economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between business people and government officials.

Barack Hussein Obama, with his GREEN ENERGY , and the bailout of GM & Chrysler, threw billions of dollars of our tax money and we still got a bankrupt "Detroit" and Solyndra. Talk about FASCISM. William Jefferson Clinton, whored out his wife to corporations and enemy countries, so he and his foundation could make $150million dollars. There is one thing dumber than a box of rocks, it is you liberals who think the Democrats are for the little people. Such stupid people who vote Democrat.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Crony capitalism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Crony capitalism is a term describing an economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between business people and government officials.

Barack Hussein Obama, with his GREEN ENERGY , and the bailout of GM & Chrysler, threw billions of dollars of our tax money and we still got a bankrupt "Detroit" and Solyndra. Talk about FASCISM. William Jefferson Clinton, whored out his wife to corporations and enemy countries, so he and his foundation could make $150million dollars. There is one thing dumber than a box of rocks, it is you liberals who think the Democrats are for the little people. Such stupid people who vote Democrat.

You should try telling stories that are closer to the whole truth:

Obama DOE Picked More Energy Winners Than Silicon Valley VCs CleanTechnica

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Really, please extrapolate those "WINNERS", that cannot survive without government subsidies? Behind every crooked deal with a company, you can find a liberal politician who is getting kick backs. But remember little kids, Liberals are for the little guy, that is why liberals love to make everyone poor. Then we all could be a little guy.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

A few pages back i had talked about Margaret Sanger about her "WAR ON BLACKS" and how eugenic clinics were put in the inner city to stop the births of those not deemed worth of life. A couple of years ago, Nancy(Blinkie) Pelosi confirmed the liberal mantra on having making sure those not deemed worthy from adding to the gene pool. Liberals hate the share and of course Blinkie, does have 5 children and 6 grandchildren, but once again it is "DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO". Liberals are the bane of the planet, yet they believe that they will save it, as they cause the fires to spread through out it.

Nancy Pelosi says birth control will help the US economy

I will say this though, with abortions, many future Democrat's lives have been prevented from being allowed to grow up and continue the push for more liberalism. It sounds harsh, but the TRUTH hurts, sometimes.

 

[hangover]

This OP is NOT a history lesson, it's false propaganda. Fascism is a dictatorship, not socialism. Socialism is a collective of a social society, that actually cares about all members of the society, as opposed to capitalism, which is about greed. Greed is a narcissistic disease. Capitalism is doomed to failure.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

This OP is NOT a history lesson, it's false propaganda. Fascism is a dictatorship, not socialism. Socialism is a collective of a social society, that actually cares about all members of the society, as opposed to capitalism, which is about greed. Greed is a narcissistic disease. Capitalism is doomed to failure.

Nazi Fascism and the Modern Totalitarian State

The government of Nazi Germany was a fascist, totalitarian state. Totalitarian regimes, in contrast to a dictatorship, establish complete political, social, and cultural control over their subjects, and are usually headed by a charismatic leader. Fascism is a form of right-wing totalitarianism which emphasizes the subordination of the individual to advance the interests of the state.

Nazi Party - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (help·info), abbreviated NSDAP), commonly referred to in English as the Nazi Party (/ˈnɑːtsi/), was a political party in Germany active between 1920 and 1945 that practised Nazism.

There are 3 types of "SOCIALISTS.
1. Extreme Right Wing Socialist - Fascist/Nazi government control of the masses through a central government usually headed by a Dictator like Hitler.
2. Moderate Socialist - U.S.S.A. Central government control where a few political leaders control from birth to death the lives of the masses taking money from the workers and giving it to those that dont work.
3. Extreme Left Wing Socialist - Communist government where a very few control all the wealth and resources of the nation, giving out only enough to the masses to keep them alive, but also with FORCE to make sure the masses dont get out of hand. Greed is a natural feeling of humans as when you WORK for something it belongs to you. Why does Warren Buffet(who pays less taxes than his secretary) make billions of dollars transporting the oil from Canada to the Gulf by his railroad, yet his profits would of gone down , except Obama vetoed the Keystone Pipeline, that would of created thousands of jobs for middleclass union members? Because Obama makes sure his liberal elite special interest groups can make their money but we cant. You better go read up on the USSR and how well socialism took care of their society, or Cuba, or China? Millions of people have died by the compassion of liberalism, maybe even ask a Jew who survived WWII. Hitler was a socialist, but an extreme right wing one at that.

Obama Puppetmaster Warren Buffett Biggest Winner From Keystone Pipeline Rejection Zero Hedge

Obama Puppetmaster Warren Buffett Biggest Winner From Keystone Pipeline Rejection

 

[NYcarbineer]

Which countries went from socialist to Marxist?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Marxist is the same as Socialist which is the same as communist, fascist, liberal, progressive. Shame you cant understand this but i bet you got your education, publicly. What really pisses me off about the liberals in America, they could of gone to any other MARXIST country in the world, and lived there, but no, they had to fundamentally change the greatest country in the world, and turn it into a cesspool.

 

[regent]

Marxist is the same as Socialist which is the same as communist, fascist, liberal, progressive. Shame you cant understand this but i bet you got your education, publicly. What really pisses me off about the liberals in America, they could of gone to any other MARXIST country in the world, and lived there, but no, they had to fundamentally change the greatest country in the world, and turn it into a cesspool.

Marxist is the same as Socialist which is the same as communist, fascist, liberal, progressive. Shame you cant understand this but i bet you got your education, publicly. What really pisses me off about the liberals in America, they could of gone to any other MARXIST country in the world, and lived there, but no, they had to fundamentally change the greatest country in the world, and turn it into a cesspool.

Can't name any eh? Well you're right no nation practices Marxist communism. So what about the nations that say they practice Marx, does any nation claim that? Why did the USSR drop Marx after a few years of getting the nation ready to go communistic?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Whoopi Goldberg Communism Is "A Great Concept"

This woman made millions of dollars not through communism but by capitalism. It is okay for the rest of us to be poor but not her.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The thread title is a happy bowl of alphabet soup.