Massachusetts Man Says He Was Fired for Telling Colleague Her Gay Marriage Is Wrong

[ihopehefails]

Welcome to the new Socialist Nightmare. People really need to stop confusing Liberalism and Socialism. Liberalism and Socialism really are two different things. Real Liberals believe in Free Speech but Socialists do not.

Welcome to the new illiterate nightmare. People really need to stop confusing the constitutional right to free speech with the rules companies and corporations can impose on speech inside their privately-owned premises.

Would you say that, as an employee of a company, you should be free to say to your boss, "I hate you, you fuc&king ni**er, and this company sucks, and I'm buying our competitors products - and you can all kiss my ass" ???

Should that get you fired? Ya think? But wait - you're busy whining about free speech, so are you saying that nothing you say at a privately-owned company should be grounds for getting fired?

Either you are saying that, or you're not. If you are - you're an idiot. And if you're not - then the guy trying to push his religious beliefs and engage in harassment (in Mass.) of another employee can, and should be fired.

I agree with you that an employer can establish rules within their own workplace but the whole reason they established sexual harassment rules in the first place is to protect them from lawsuits. The totalitarian left has insidiously expanded sexual harassment to mean expressing offensive views such as "back to the kitchen bitch" because they don't want people to have those views.

I know its constitutionally legal but the motives are a belief that this kind of thinking has to be stamped out of society by any method possible.

 

[Contessa_Sharra]

Take it to "Judge not lest ye be judged."

He "judged," then he got judged right back.

As a new hire, likely probationary, he was a problem. He had to go. She had seniority, is likely a good worker, he had to go.

 

[ihopehefails]

Take it to "Judge not lest ye be judged."

He "judged," then he got judged right back.

As a new hire, likely probationary, he was a problem. He had to go. She had seniority, is likely a good worker, he had to go.

He is allowed to express his opinion without the courts getting involved.

 

[del]

Take it to "Judge not lest ye be judged."

He "judged," then he got judged right back.

As a new hire, likely probationary, he was a problem. He had to go. She had seniority, is likely a good worker, he had to go.

He is allowed to express his opinion without the courts getting involved.

and he's allowed to get fired for being a dope.

 

[bodecea]

How would he know the person was homosexual unless the person brought it up?

She mentioned she was getting married.

The horrors!

Ahh, so somebody else started it. Did they get fired also?

Yes, just like everyone else who mentions they are getting married. It's just horrible...almost as bad as those who wear wedding rings and have pictures of their families on their desks. FLAUNTERS!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ihopehefails]

Take it to "Judge not lest ye be judged."

He "judged," then he got judged right back.

As a new hire, likely probationary, he was a problem. He had to go. She had seniority, is likely a good worker, he had to go.

He is allowed to express his opinion without the courts getting involved.

and he's allowed to get fired for being a dope.

Apparently people can get fired for having opinions that liberals don't want you to have. I hope this ain't the world that you think we should live in.

 

[ihopehefails]

She mentioned she was getting married.

The horrors!

Ahh, so somebody else started it. Did they get fired also?

Yes, just like everyone else who mentions they are getting married. It's just horrible...almost as bad as those who wear wedding rings and have pictures of their families on their desks. FLAUNTERS!!!!!!!!!!!

I also believe that other people who respond to those hetro flaunters as being immoral will not get fired or be able to sue udner sexual harassment.

 

[del]

He is allowed to express his opinion without the courts getting involved.

and he's allowed to get fired for being a dope.

Apparently people can get fired for having opinions that liberals don't want you to have. I hope this ain't the world that you think we should live in.

people can get fired for any reason at all or no reason. that's life.

deal with it.

 

[Againsheila]

To the OP

People are too easily offended and really need to grow a thicker skin. This applies to both parties in the article.

Horray for common sense.

ditto

 

[bodecea]

He is allowed to express his opinion without the courts getting involved.

and he's allowed to get fired for being a dope.

Apparently people can get fired for having opinions that liberals don't want you to have. I hope this ain't the world that you think we should live in.

Booo Hoooo!


I suppose you would be ok, if this guy had gotten married to his college sweetheart, and the gay woman when on vocally about how they were just breeders and their marriage was just to keep a passle of brats from being bastards......Right?

 

[Againsheila]

Ahh, so somebody else started it. Did they get fired also?

Yes, just like everyone else who mentions they are getting married. It's just horrible...almost as bad as those who wear wedding rings and have pictures of their families on their desks. FLAUNTERS!!!!!!!!!!!

I also believe that other people who respond to those hetro flaunters as being immoral will not get fired or be able to sue udner sexual harassment.

She mentioned her wedding FOUR times, in front of him, looking at him, waiting for him to comment, knowing his beliefs on the subject. Then when he did comment, she got him fired.

At least that's his version, based on that, he shouldn't be fired and she's an ass.

Can you imagine a Christians talking about his/her beliefs openly in front of a muslim, FOUR times, and waiting for them to comment, then getting them fired when the Muslim says the Christian is wrong, or vice a versa?

Why is this any different?

 

[bodecea]

and he's allowed to get fired for being a dope.

Apparently people can get fired for having opinions that liberals don't want you to have. I hope this ain't the world that you think we should live in.

people can get fired for any reason at all or no reason. that's life.

deal with it.

Especially if they are still on probation.


I hope the loser tries to sue.

 

[ThePickledPunk]

Yes, just like everyone else who mentions they are getting married. It's just horrible...almost as bad as those who wear wedding rings and have pictures of their families on their desks. FLAUNTERS!!!!!!!!!!!

I also believe that other people who respond to those hetro flaunters as being immoral will not get fired or be able to sue udner sexual harassment.

She mentioned her wedding FOUR times, in front of him, looking at him, waiting for him to comment, knowing his beliefs on the subject. Then when he did comment, she got him fired.

At least that's his version, based on that, he shouldn't be fired and she's an ass.

Can you imagine a Christians talking about his/her beliefs openly in front of a muslim, FOUR times, and waiting for them to comment, then getting them fired when the Muslim says the Christian is wrong, or vice a versa?

Why is this any different?

It is different. Muslims aren't as hypersensitive as poofters.

 

[bodecea]

Yes, just like everyone else who mentions they are getting married. It's just horrible...almost as bad as those who wear wedding rings and have pictures of their families on their desks. FLAUNTERS!!!!!!!!!!!

I also believe that other people who respond to those hetro flaunters as being immoral will not get fired or be able to sue udner sexual harassment.

She mentioned her wedding FOUR times, in front of him, looking at him, waiting for him to comment, knowing his beliefs on the subject. Then when he did comment, she got him fired.

At my work place, people getting married mention it quite a bit too. So? But, I know...we gays always are flaunting when we do the same thing straights do. I know how that song is sung. :rolleyes

At least that's his version, based on that, he shouldn't be fired and she's an ass.

Ah...you buy the word of some guy who in essence is saying..."She said she was married FOUR times in front of me! She's so mean! She's flaunting her sexuality to me! It's HER fault!"

Can you imagine a Christians talking about his/her beliefs openly in front of a muslim, FOUR times, and waiting for them to comment, then getting them fired when the Muslim says the Christian is wrong, or vice a versa?

Yes, I can imagine it because I've seen it happen...a lot more than once...and flaunt in front of Jewish people...and in front of pagan people. As long as they are just talking about their faith and not trying to push it on the Muslim, Jew, Pagan.

But wait...are you saying the Lesbian was trying to PUSH her Lesbianism on this guy? That she was trying to turn him into a .... LESBIAN?????

Why is this any different?

 

[Smartt33]

Massachusetts Man Says He Was Fired for Telling Colleague Her Gay Marriage Is Wrong - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

And Fox News flips out. Guess what Fox and Friends? The Owner has a right to fire the person if they are trying to impose their views on someone else.

"I did say I regard that lifestyle as deviant, as in deviating from the norm, but I never, ever said to that to the [manager]," he said. "In general, I believe people don't want to hear about controversial issues like that in the workplace. They shouldn't have to."

"I see, like all real Christians, homosexuals as people who, like me, are sinners and need to be told the truth in a loving way," he said. "In this situation, I took issue with the behavior. I think it's lunacy to call that type of behavior marriage in any kind of form. I had to express that I'm intolerant of that behavior. It's a love-the-sinner, hate-the-sin kind of deal

He knew better to make such remarks in the workplace, but he let his religion cloud his judgment. He also could of easily had talked to the manager about what was going on. He chose not to.

It is just as controversial if the gay person brings it up as it is if the straight person brings it up. Why can the subject be offensive if addressed from the religious point of view, but not if it is brought up from the gay point of view. If it is wrong for the straight (religious) person to address it, then it is wrong for the gay person to address it. Take it out of the business altogether, or allow it altogether.

 

[ThePickledPunk]

Massachusetts Man Says He Was Fired for Telling Colleague Her Gay Marriage Is Wrong - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

And Fox News flips out. Guess what Fox and Friends? The Owner has a right to fire the person if they are trying to impose their views on someone else.

"I did say I regard that lifestyle as deviant, as in deviating from the norm, but I never, ever said to that to the [manager]," he said. "In general, I believe people don't want to hear about controversial issues like that in the workplace. They shouldn't have to."

"I see, like all real Christians, homosexuals as people who, like me, are sinners and need to be told the truth in a loving way," he said. "In this situation, I took issue with the behavior. I think it's lunacy to call that type of behavior marriage in any kind of form. I had to express that I'm intolerant of that behavior. It's a love-the-sinner, hate-the-sin kind of deal

He knew better to make such remarks in the workplace, but he let his religion cloud his judgment. He also could of easily had talked to the manager about what was going on. He chose not to.

It is just as controversial if the gay person brings it up as it is if the straight person brings it up. Why can the subject be offensive if addressed from the religious point of view, but not if it is brought up from the gay point of view. If it is wrong for the straight (religious) person to address it, then it is wrong for the gay person to address it. Take it out of the business altogether, or allow it altogether.

Because poofters are intolerant of the views of others.

 

[paperview]

Massachusetts Man Says He Was Fired for Telling Colleague Her Gay Marriage Is Wrong - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

And Fox News flips out. Guess what Fox and Friends? The Owner has a right to fire the person if they are trying to impose their views on someone else.

"I did say I regard that lifestyle as deviant, as in deviating from the norm, but I never, ever said to that to the [manager]," he said. "In general, I believe people don't want to hear about controversial issues like that in the workplace. They shouldn't have to."

"I see, like all real Christians, homosexuals as people who, like me, are sinners and need to be told the truth in a loving way," he said. "In this situation, I took issue with the behavior. I think it's lunacy to call that type of behavior marriage in any kind of form. I had to express that I'm intolerant of that behavior. It's a love-the-sinner, hate-the-sin kind of deal

He knew better to make such remarks in the workplace, but he let his religion cloud his judgment. He also could of easily had talked to the manager about what was going on. He chose not to.

It is just as controversial if the gay person brings it up as it is if the straight person brings it up. Why can the subject be offensive if addressed from the religious point of view, but not if it is brought up from the gay point of view. If it is wrong for the straight (religious) person to address it, then it is wrong for the gay person to address it. Take it out of the business altogether, or allow it altogether.

Since when is correcting a fellow employee when he says "he" regarding a partner, and notes 'no, it's a she' controversial?

The subject first came up in a simple conversation that her fiancee would be picking her up. He then referred to her fiancee as a "he." She clarified it was a "she."
That's it. She said "it's a she."

That set him off. He said that made him uncomfortable.

When asked by HR how she made him uncomfortable, he stated that
----> by simply saying her "so called fiance" was a female made him uncomfortable!
(yeah, that's how he refers to her - "so called" - as if she isn't really a fiancee).
Simply because she's a she!

He also says he felt compelled to tell her her lifestyle was immoral.
Compelled? Really? He has no control on his ability to keep his opinions to himself regarding a perfectly legal event? He was "compelled" to call her a deviant?

She stated a fact. It's a "she." He, an employee on probation, expressed his opinion, and in a very derogatory and unprofessional manner.

In case you missed the earlier posts on this, there is a nearly 7 minute video where he cuts his own throats with his word posted upthread.

Note also: He not only referred to her as a "deviant" - he also expressed that he "hates people like that."

Tell me again you don't see a difference.

Tell me how you think Brookstone is in the wrong to fire a new hire like that- one who will be in regular contact with the public, and may even be called upon to help out prospective same-sex couples find wedding gifts! Tell me.

 

[paperview]

I would like to say that the employer has a right to fire this person for whatever reason they want but it really was not the employer's choice to begin with because he was fired due to the fear of being sued in court. I'm sure if there was no established litigation then he would not have been fired and it would have been a dispute between two employees as it should have remained.

Its similar to sexual harassment ruling against companies that have declared that anyone saying "women are inferior" (obviously sexest) or hold a traditional view of the role of women such as staying home and raising kids can be fired because it is considered sexual harassment. Now I was always thought that sexual harassment was when you said sexually degrading things or demanded sex for promotions but to expand it to harmless views held by others such as is the case of this man in the OP then I think its merely an attempt to use the litigation process to prosecute those who may hold opinions liberals think we shouldn't have.

...or hold a traditional view of the role of women such as staying home and raising kids can be fired because it is considered sexual harassment.

Anyone can hold that view all they want and they will not be fired for sexual harassment.

It's when you vocalize your issues and, for example, tell a woman to "get back in the kitchen bitch" it becomes a problem.

Just like I can hold a view you are a dolt - but if I harass you about it in the workplace, trouble's ahead.

Tell me why I can't say something offensive to someone in the workplace or even express an offensive opinion in the workplace? I know its the bosses discretion but we all know that sexual harassment lawsuits are expensive and employers fear those so they fire those who may be guilty of it. What the fascist have done have expanded sexual harassment into expressing offensive opinions in an attempt to silence opinions they don't want people to have.

Honestly, you should just get over it. If someone expresses an opinion you don't like then you should just move on in life and don't give me this crap that its sexual harassment when someone says "get back in the kitchen" because I can say blacks should pick cotton and not a single racial harassment lawsuit will get filed.

Do it at work and see how far you get. If you work for larger company, Let us know how that worked out -- as you're in the unemployment line.

The truth is the sexual harassment rules are violation of someone's freedom of speech because they go beyond what they were originally meant to do and now are a tool used to censor unpopular opinions.

You have no Freedom of Speech in the private workplace. A boss is free to tell you what is allowed and what is not while you are on his or her time.

You are Free -- to not work there.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Here's the bottom line here folks (eh, no pun intended):

Douchenozzle has a hard-on for teh gheys based on past associations and stances. Is hired by a airport retailer to do a job. Visiting lesbo manager says that she is getting married to her partner. Douchenozzle says that she is a deviant and that he hates people like that. Retailer, sensing HR issues ahead, cuts loose douche-wonder while he is still under probationary period, and before he could cause a real lawsuit headache for them. Then boy-turd wonder goes all crying to the media over and over about "teh GHEYS!! teh GHEYS!!!", thus proving the retailer right in that this turdlette-douche was going to be a bigger headache than he was worth.


(i think i offended all groups and positions in there. did i miss any?)

 

[Steerpike]

Private employer.

If they want to fire people who express a problem with gay marriage and keep people who favor it, I have no problem with that. Same is true of the reverse situation. And the same goes for this specific situation - I don't see a problem with a private employer firing someone over this.