Maturing into Conservatism

[SAYIT]

We used to be younger, pot and coke heads, do you really think the 80's was a myth?

Your base is eroding

Your base is eroding.

3 forecast modelers predict Trump will win in 2020

 

[Crepitus]

Conservatives keep saying that as people age they will move towards conservatism. We are not seeing that. We are seeing aging conservatives who are white, male and Christian. Liberals dominate among the youth but they are not becoming conservatives as they enter the workforce. The 30-50 demographic still lean left

Maybe it's conservatives who only use 10% of their brain?

Maybe conservatives only need 10% of their brains to make leftards seem like whiny, sniveling, ignorant idiots.

Naw, it only seems that way to you guys because you're only using that 10%.

 

[SAYIT]

Winston Churchill is reputed to have said that if you are not a "liberal" when you are young then you have no heart; if you are not a "conservative" when you are old, you have no brain. He probably never said it, at least using those terms, as they were not used in the contemporary way in England in his day, but the thought is much-believed among today's American Conservatives. It is also said that a "conservative" is a "liberal" who has been mugged.

So what's the point? In recent past generations, it was common, at least in the "educated" classes, for young men to be rather liberal when in college, and then as life's experiences begin to take hold (paying taxes, starting a family, raising kids), the influences of the Real World start to take effect, and the liberal views of criminal laws, the welfare state, taxation, and so forth start to take a beating. Then, on some fateful day, the now-less-committed Liberal young man happens to tune into - let's say - the Rush Limbaugh radio program, and he finds that "conservatism" actually makes sense. A conservative is born.

I cite myself as Exhibit A, and several of my friends, relations, and acquaintances had similar "growth" over the years.

Today, one notes that all of the various named generations under 40 years old (millennials, Gen-X, etc) are conspicuously liberal or liberal-libertarian in their outlook. They are notably less religious, but I'm not sure whether that is relevant to the political conversion.

My question is, will this generation undergo similar conversions as they accumulate more and more real life experiences? Or will the initial 16 years of Liberal indoctrination have a permanent effect on their political outlook?

I'm inclined to think not, for a number of reasons:

• Public schools are much more openly socialist in their attitudes now,
• They seem to be much more inclined to seek out "government" solutions to their problems,
• They are more inclined to pursue "bullshit" careers (government, non-profit, academe), which tend to insulate one from the Real World,
• They are more protected by their parents than past generations, which softens the impact of Real World problems.

Other views?

After reading your post, one doesn't mature into conservatism, rather they revert into childlike greed of give me its mine.

LOL. Yeah ... because socialist scumbags are so famous for defending people's right to keep the fruit of their labor.

 

[emilynghiem]

Winston Churchill is reputed to have said that if you are not a "liberal" when you are young then you have no heart; if you are not a "conservative" when you are old, you have no brain. He probably never said it, at least using those terms, as they were not used in the contemporary way in England in his day, but the thought is much-believed among today's American Conservatives. It is also said that a "conservative" is a "liberal" who has been mugged.

So what's the point? In recent past generations, it was common, at least in the "educated" classes, for young men to be rather liberal when in college, and then as life's experiences begin to take hold (paying taxes, starting a family, raising kids), the influences of the Real World start to take effect, and the liberal views of criminal laws, the welfare state, taxation, and so forth start to take a beating. Then, on some fateful day, the now-less-committed Liberal young man happens to tune into - let's say - the Rush Limbaugh radio program, and he finds that "conservatism" actually makes sense. A conservative is born.

I cite myself as Exhibit A, and several of my friends, relations, and acquaintances had similar "growth" over the years.

Today, one notes that all of the various named generations under 40 years old (millennials, Gen-X, etc) are conspicuously liberal or liberal-libertarian in their outlook. They are notably less religious, but I'm not sure whether that is relevant to the political conversion.

My question is, will this generation undergo similar conversions as they accumulate more and more real life experiences? Or will the initial 16 years of Liberal indoctrination have a permanent effect on their political outlook?

I'm inclined to think not, for a number of reasons:

• Public schools are much more openly socialist in their attitudes now,
• They seem to be much more inclined to seek out "government" solutions to their problems,
• They are more inclined to pursue "bullshit" careers (government, non-profit, academe), which tend to insulate one from the Real World,
• They are more protected by their parents than past generations, which softens the impact of Real World problems.

Other views?

I would compare it with the stages of spiritual development
credited to Fowler. People can go from a liberal more open and tolerant view,
to shift suddenly to the opposite extreme as being
legalistic, religious or very dogmatic/fundamentalist
(such as when they first discover rules or laws they believe are absolute),
then move back toward the middle and find a moderate common ground
between the two other extremes.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Naw, it only seems that way to you guys because you're only using that 10%.

Goodness, it must take SO much intelligence for you to parrot all that leftist orthodoxy along with all the other orthodox leftists!

 

[dudmuck]

Winston Churchill is reputed to have said that if you are not a "liberal" when you are young then you have no heart; if you are not a "conservative" when you are old, you have no brain. He probably never said it, at least using those terms, as they were not used in the contemporary way in England in his day, but the thought is much-believed among today's American Conservatives. It is also said that a "conservative" is a "liberal" who has been mugged.

So what's the point? In recent past generations, it was common, at least in the "educated" classes, for young men to be rather liberal when in college, and then as life's experiences begin to take hold (paying taxes, starting a family, raising kids), the influences of the Real World start to take effect, and the liberal views of criminal laws, the welfare state, taxation, and so forth start to take a beating. Then, on some fateful day, the now-less-committed Liberal young man happens to tune into - let's say - the Rush Limbaugh radio program, and he finds that "conservatism" actually makes sense. A conservative is born.

I cite myself as Exhibit A, and several of my friends, relations, and acquaintances had similar "growth" over the years.

Today, one notes that all of the various named generations under 40 years old (millennials, Gen-X, etc) are conspicuously liberal or liberal-libertarian in their outlook. They are notably less religious, but I'm not sure whether that is relevant to the political conversion.

My question is, will this generation undergo similar conversions as they accumulate more and more real life experiences? Or will the initial 16 years of Liberal indoctrination have a permanent effect on their political outlook?

I'm inclined to think not, for a number of reasons:

• Public schools are much more openly socialist in their attitudes now,
• They seem to be much more inclined to seek out "government" solutions to their problems,
• They are more inclined to pursue "bullshit" careers (government, non-profit, academe), which tend to insulate one from the Real World,
• They are more protected by their parents than past generations, which softens the impact of Real World problems.

Other views?

In your 40s your brain begins to shrink.

Coincidence?

I think not.

We only use a small portion of it anyway but aging usually (but not Rightwinger) imbues one with a store of knowledge and adult perspective.

Conservatives keep saying that as people age they will move towards conservatism

We are not seeing that. We are seeing aging conservatives who are white, male and Christian

Liberals dominate among the youth but they are not becoming conservatives as they enter the workforce. The 30-50 demographic still lean left

Maybe it's conservatives who only use 10% of their brain?

I don’t know....

Trump has a big brain

big brain?
Mental heath experts say cognitive decline.

If he was such a "...stable genius" he wouldn't have to tell anyone...it would be obvious.

 

[iceberg]

Winston Churchill is reputed to have said that if you are not a "liberal" when you are young then you have no heart; if you are not a "conservative" when you are old, you have no brain. He probably never said it, at least using those terms, as they were not used in the contemporary way in England in his day, but the thought is much-believed among today's American Conservatives. It is also said that a "conservative" is a "liberal" who has been mugged.

So what's the point? In recent past generations, it was common, at least in the "educated" classes, for young men to be rather liberal when in college, and then as life's experiences begin to take hold (paying taxes, starting a family, raising kids), the influences of the Real World start to take effect, and the liberal views of criminal laws, the welfare state, taxation, and so forth start to take a beating. Then, on some fateful day, the now-less-committed Liberal young man happens to tune into - let's say - the Rush Limbaugh radio program, and he finds that "conservatism" actually makes sense. A conservative is born.

I cite myself as Exhibit A, and several of my friends, relations, and acquaintances had similar "growth" over the years.

Today, one notes that all of the various named generations under 40 years old (millennials, Gen-X, etc) are conspicuously liberal or liberal-libertarian in their outlook. They are notably less religious, but I'm not sure whether that is relevant to the political conversion.

My question is, will this generation undergo similar conversions as they accumulate more and more real life experiences? Or will the initial 16 years of Liberal indoctrination have a permanent effect on their political outlook?

I'm inclined to think not, for a number of reasons:

• Public schools are much more openly socialist in their attitudes now,
• They seem to be much more inclined to seek out "government" solutions to their problems,
• They are more inclined to pursue "bullshit" careers (government, non-profit, academe), which tend to insulate one from the Real World,
• They are more protected by their parents than past generations, which softens the impact of Real World problems.

Other views?

Churchill never said that


But my case was the complete opposite. I was raised in a Conservative family. We supported the Vietnam War and President Nixon
I voted for Reagan and Bush four times, believed in the theory of trickle down and the abuses of welfare

By the 1990s, I saw what the Republican Party had become....petty and cruel.
They didn’t care about anyone. Survival of the fittest. The purpose of Government was to make things easier for the wealthy.

Voted Democrat at the national level ever since

And what are they doing to show how much they care?

 

[iceberg]

Name a conservative city worse than SF.

Well…we’re waiting.

So, no you can't.

Still waiting for you to name a conservative city of the same demographics and population.
I’m guessing you can’t.

I'm guessing it wouldn't matter.

Your admission of defeat is accepted.

Says the fool that can't answer a simple question.

 

[emilynghiem]

Your base is eroding

Your base is eroding.

rightwinger SAYIT

 

[emilynghiem]

big brain?
Mental heath experts say cognitive decline.

If he was such a "...stable genius" he wouldn't have to tell anyone...it would be obvious.

dudmuck rightwinger

 

[Crepitus]

Naw, it only seems that way to you guys because you're only using that 10%.

Goodness, it must take SO much intelligence for you to parrot all that leftist orthodoxy along with all the other orthodox leftists!

Good thing I don't then.

 

[SAYIT]

big brain?
Mental heath experts say cognitive decline.

If he was such a "...stable genius" he wouldn't have to tell anyone...it would be obvious.

Not to hate-filled leftards. If someone doesn't tell 'em what to think, say, and do they'd be lost.

Come to think of it, most of 'em are lost.

For instance those who cling to the silliness "experts" spout. Shortly after Shrillary's epic defeat, Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman predicted an imminent global economic recession. One can only wonder if he put his investment dollars where is mouth is.

Paul Krugman: The Economic Fallout
The economic fallout of a Donald Trump presidency will probably be severe and widespread enough to plunge the world into recession, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman warned in a New York Times opinion piece published early Wednesday...
"Now comes the mother of all adverse effects — and what it brings with it is a regime that will be ignorant of economic policy and hostile to any effort to make it work," Krugman wrote. "So we are very probably looking at a global recession, with no end in sight.

 

[SAYIT]

But my case was the complete opposite. I was raised in a Conservative family. We supported the Vietnam War and President Nixon. I voted for Reagan and Bush four times, believed in the theory of trickle down and the abuses of welfare. By the 1990s, I saw what the Republican Party had become....petty and cruel.
They didn’t care about anyone. Survival of the fittest. The purpose of Government was to make things easier for the wealthy. Voted Democrat at the national level ever since

Proving irrefutably that you once were far smarter than you are today.

​

And what are they doing to show how much they care?

Blocking anything good for America and Americans that may amplify just how successful we and Trump have been while Dems and the world look on in unvarnished envy.

 

[otto105]

Do you guys have to stroke each other off right out here in public like that?

If you saw what we are both packing, you would want to get in on some of that, too, Crepitus.

Great, just when we got over those internet billionaires they move on to internet long dongs.

 

[dudmuck]

Winston Churchill is reputed to have said that if you are not a "liberal" when you are young then you have no heart; if you are not a "conservative" when you are old, you have no brain. He probably never said it, at least using those terms, as they were not used in the contemporary way in England in his day, but the thought is much-believed among today's American Conservatives. It is also said that a "conservative" is a "liberal" who has been mugged.

So what's the point? In recent past generations, it was common, at least in the "educated" classes, for young men to be rather liberal when in college, and then as life's experiences begin to take hold (paying taxes, starting a family, raising kids), the influences of the Real World start to take effect, and the liberal views of criminal laws, the welfare state, taxation, and so forth start to take a beating. Then, on some fateful day, the now-less-committed Liberal young man happens to tune into - let's say - the Rush Limbaugh radio program, and he finds that "conservatism" actually makes sense. A conservative is born.

I cite myself as Exhibit A, and several of my friends, relations, and acquaintances had similar "growth" over the years.

Today, one notes that all of the various named generations under 40 years old (millennials, Gen-X, etc) are conspicuously liberal or liberal-libertarian in their outlook. They are notably less religious, but I'm not sure whether that is relevant to the political conversion.

My question is, will this generation undergo similar conversions as they accumulate more and more real life experiences? Or will the initial 16 years of Liberal indoctrination have a permanent effect on their political outlook?

I'm inclined to think not, for a number of reasons:

• Public schools are much more openly socialist in their attitudes now,
• They seem to be much more inclined to seek out "government" solutions to their problems,
• They are more inclined to pursue "bullshit" careers (government, non-profit, academe), which tend to insulate one from the Real World,
• They are more protected by their parents than past generations, which softens the impact of Real World problems.

Other views?

After reading your post, one doesn't mature into conservatism, rather they revert into childlike greed of give me its mine.

Says the person pushing for FREE college, FREE healthcare, FREE income....go figure.

uh,yea..

Stupid post

this one is probably better

 

[rightwinger]

We used to be younger, pot and coke heads, do you really think the 80's was a myth?

Your base is eroding

Your base is eroding.

3 forecast modelers predict Trump will win in 2020

We shall see if he can still bust the blue wall

 

[rightwinger]

But my case was the complete opposite. I was raised in a Conservative family. We supported the Vietnam War and President Nixon. I voted for Reagan and Bush four times, believed in the theory of trickle down and the abuses of welfare. By the 1990s, I saw what the Republican Party had become....petty and cruel.
They didn’t care about anyone. Survival of the fittest. The purpose of Government was to make things easier for the wealthy. Voted Democrat at the national level ever since

Proving irrefutably that you once were far smarter than you are today.

​

And what are they doing to show how much they care?

Blocking anything good for America and Americans that may amplify just how successful we and Trump have been while Dems and the world look on in unvarnished envy.

Proves I used to be gullible

 

[Votto]

Winston Churchill is reputed to have said that if you are not a "liberal" when you are young then you have no heart; if you are not a "conservative" when you are old, you have no brain. He probably never said it, at least using those terms, as they were not used in the contemporary way in England in his day, but the thought is much-believed among today's American Conservatives. It is also said that a "conservative" is a "liberal" who has been mugged.

So what's the point? In recent past generations, it was common, at least in the "educated" classes, for young men to be rather liberal when in college, and then as life's experiences begin to take hold (paying taxes, starting a family, raising kids), the influences of the Real World start to take effect, and the liberal views of criminal laws, the welfare state, taxation, and so forth start to take a beating. Then, on some fateful day, the now-less-committed Liberal young man happens to tune into - let's say - the Rush Limbaugh radio program, and he finds that "conservatism" actually makes sense. A conservative is born.

I cite myself as Exhibit A, and several of my friends, relations, and acquaintances had similar "growth" over the years.

Today, one notes that all of the various named generations under 40 years old (millennials, Gen-X, etc) are conspicuously liberal or liberal-libertarian in their outlook. They are notably less religious, but I'm not sure whether that is relevant to the political conversion.

My question is, will this generation undergo similar conversions as they accumulate more and more real life experiences? Or will the initial 16 years of Liberal indoctrination have a permanent effect on their political outlook?

I'm inclined to think not, for a number of reasons:

• Public schools are much more openly socialist in their attitudes now,
• They seem to be much more inclined to seek out "government" solutions to their problems,
• They are more inclined to pursue "bullshit" careers (government, non-profit, academe), which tend to insulate one from the Real World,
• They are more protected by their parents than past generations, which softens the impact of Real World problems.

Other views?

In 2017, 75% of those in Venezuela favored socialism.

75% of Venezuelans Support Socialism: Poll

Today, as they are eating out of garbage cans and face the government death squads in the streets I doubt that has changed.

So I would agree that socialism is more like a cult than a rational ideology.

Don't drink the cool aid cuz if you do there is no going back.

 

[Votto]

Winston Churchill is reputed to have said that if you are not a "liberal" when you are young then you have no heart; if you are not a "conservative" when you are old, you have no brain. He probably never said it, at least using those terms, as they were not used in the contemporary way in England in his day, but the thought is much-believed among today's American Conservatives. It is also said that a "conservative" is a "liberal" who has been mugged.

So what's the point? In recent past generations, it was common, at least in the "educated" classes, for young men to be rather liberal when in college, and then as life's experiences begin to take hold (paying taxes, starting a family, raising kids), the influences of the Real World start to take effect, and the liberal views of criminal laws, the welfare state, taxation, and so forth start to take a beating. Then, on some fateful day, the now-less-committed Liberal young man happens to tune into - let's say - the Rush Limbaugh radio program, and he finds that "conservatism" actually makes sense. A conservative is born.

I cite myself as Exhibit A, and several of my friends, relations, and acquaintances had similar "growth" over the years.

Today, one notes that all of the various named generations under 40 years old (millennials, Gen-X, etc) are conspicuously liberal or liberal-libertarian in their outlook. They are notably less religious, but I'm not sure whether that is relevant to the political conversion.

My question is, will this generation undergo similar conversions as they accumulate more and more real life experiences? Or will the initial 16 years of Liberal indoctrination have a permanent effect on their political outlook?

I'm inclined to think not, for a number of reasons:

• Public schools are much more openly socialist in their attitudes now,
• They seem to be much more inclined to seek out "government" solutions to their problems,
• They are more inclined to pursue "bullshit" careers (government, non-profit, academe), which tend to insulate one from the Real World,
• They are more protected by their parents than past generations, which softens the impact of Real World problems.

Other views?

I think you almost hit the nail on the head with this quote without even realizing it.

"Today, one notes that all of the various named generations under 40 years old (millennials, Gen-X, etc) are conspicuously liberal or liberal-libertarian in their outlook. They are notably less religious, but I'm not sure whether that is relevant to the political conversion."

You seem to give little relevance to the notion that Leftism is the religion that fills the void of a world without God. The more religious a nation becomes, the more conservative/libertarian it becomes and the more secular the more Leftist/fascist it becomes.

 

[SAYIT]

We used to be younger, pot and coke heads, do you really think the 80's was a myth?

Your base is eroding

Your base is eroding.

3 forecast modelers predict Trump will win in 2020

We shall see if he can still bust the blue wall

You think none of those models considered that? If the Dems want to avoid what is shaping up to be a 2020 red tsunami they must come up with better candidates and a much better platform than:
1) hate Trump
2) expensive new gov't programs
3) large tax increases
4) hate Trump