Maybe it is the scary looking gun

You have and we have a mass shooting problem. Countries with strong gun control dont have a mass shooting problem...
Yes, they do.

There is no cure for mass murder. No amount of legislation will stop it. The fact that these deranged idiots choose to use a particular, less-effective weapon because it looks cool is no reason to ban that platform and will change nothing.

The solution to the mass shooting problem is to shoot back. No about of gun violence should EVER be carried out without bullets flying in the opposite direction.
 
They sure kill a lot of people really fast when a crazy gets one.
Because they are scary looking?
:auiqs.jpg:

Because they are semi auto with high capacity magazines.

yes average everyday commonplace semiautomatic rifles that have been available in the civilian market for over 100 years and FYI 20 and 30 round magazines are standard capacity not high capacity
They are used for mass killing.

SO what?

If red mustangs were used as getaway cars in more bank robberies would you want to ban red mustangs?

If white panel trucks are used in more bombings than any other vehicle would you ban white panel trucks?

It makes no sense to ban a rifle because a minuscule fraction of people in the country might use it to kill someone

and do you now what else causes mass shootings? Unsecured buildings where any Schmoe can just walk in unnoticed
 
You have and we have a mass shooting problem. Countries with strong gun control dont have a mass shooting problem...
Yes, they do.

There is no cure for mass murder. No amount of legislation will stop it. The fact that these deranged idiots choose to use a particular, less-effective weapon because it looks cool is no reason to ban that platform and will change nothing.

The solution to the mass shooting problem is to shoot back. No about of gun violence should EVER be carried out without bullets flying in the opposite direction.

Do they? Link?
 
Although I do think gun nuts are impressed by the looks, they are deadlier than most other guns. To say they aren'tv is just stupid.

No to say that the AR 15 that shoots a 5.56 mm cartridge is more deadly than any other rifle that shoots the same cartridge is stupid


OK, so if the ability to shoot as fast as you can pull the trigger with a large capacity magazine is as good as a single shot that shoots the same caliper.

You people are sooooooooooooooo smart.
then what is your answer?

limit the mag to 10 rounds? make it a fixed mag that can't be swapped out?

great. they have speed loaders that will reload the fixed mag faster than swapping the mag to begin with.

and it's caliber unless you're working on your brakes. it's kinda a good idea to be correct when insulting peoples intelligence.
Ban the semi-automatic rifle that accepts large magazines. Like was done before but your party refused to renew it - killing all those children. NRA money is so wonderful.

Ban large magazibes

There has never been a ban on semiautomatic weapons there has only been a ban on one specific type of semiautomatic weapon and it was allowed to expire because it did nothing to lower the crime or the murder rates

In fact during that ban the wackos from Columbine had no trouble shooting up their school did they?

And FYI the FL wack job was using 10 round magazines hardly high capacity
and the other point they ignore - even if fixed/non removable, reloaders will reload 'em faster than changing the mag.

now what?
 
They sure kill a lot of people really fast when a crazy gets one.
Because they are scary looking?
:auiqs.jpg:

Because they are semi auto with high capacity magazines.

yes average everyday commonplace semiautomatic rifles that have been available in the civilian market for over 100 years and FYI 20 and 30 round magazines are standard capacity not high capacity
They are used for mass killing.

SO what?

If red mustangs were used as getaway cars in more bank robberies would you want to ban red mustangs?

If white panel trucks are used in more bombings than any other vehicle would you ban white panel trucks?

It makes no sense to ban a rifle because a minuscule fraction of people in the country might use it to kill someone

and do you now what else causes mass shootings? Unsecured buildings where any Schmoe can just walk in unnoticed

So they should be heavily regulated.
 
Your assertion is wrong

The AR frame is not the most popular rifle in the country because of the way it looks

It is the most popular rife frame in the country because it is light, easy to handle, infinitely customizeable accurate and just plain fun to shoot.
I entered first grade in the autumn of 1963. I graduated high school in 1975, got my degree in 1979. There were no school shootings during my matriculation.

Three questions:

When was the AR-15 introduced to the American consumer market?

When did the plague of current mass shootings begin?

Can any correlation be drawn between those two events?


There are 8 million AR-15 civilian rifles, some say even more......and recently, 6 have been used...about that anyway...for mass shootings...while the other 8 million in private hands were not used to commit any crime....
We all know that more crimes are committed that just the 6 mass shootings as you claim.
about 2% of all murders are committed with rifles of any kind that means an even smaller percentage are killed with the black one that you are so scared of

And the black one owns the worst mass killings.

again so what?

Ban the single most popular rifle in the country and then the second most popular rifle will be used nothing will change as long as we just let anyone walk willy nilly into schools
 
Because they are scary looking?
:auiqs.jpg:

Because they are semi auto with high capacity magazines.

yes average everyday commonplace semiautomatic rifles that have been available in the civilian market for over 100 years and FYI 20 and 30 round magazines are standard capacity not high capacity
They are used for mass killing.

SO what?

If red mustangs were used as getaway cars in more bank robberies would you want to ban red mustangs?

If white panel trucks are used in more bombings than any other vehicle would you ban white panel trucks?

It makes no sense to ban a rifle because a minuscule fraction of people in the country might use it to kill someone

and do you now what else causes mass shootings? Unsecured buildings where any Schmoe can just walk in unnoticed

So they should be heavily regulated.

No need. Banning felons and the mentally ill is regulation enough
 
When the hell did people have automatics? link?
Firearm Owners Protection Act - Wikipedia

See, this is why ignorant people should get the fuck out of the gun debate. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Let us make the decisions.
what a bunch legalese gobbledygook. People have never been allowed to have machine guns in my lifetime 66 years except in very very limited areas.

People had common sense. Now we have a bunch of pussies who think they need big guns for protection.
 
I entered first grade in the autumn of 1963. I graduated high school in 1975, got my degree in 1979. There were no school shootings during my matriculation.

Three questions:

When was the AR-15 introduced to the American consumer market?

When did the plague of current mass shootings begin?

Can any correlation be drawn between those two events?


There are 8 million AR-15 civilian rifles, some say even more......and recently, 6 have been used...about that anyway...for mass shootings...while the other 8 million in private hands were not used to commit any crime....
We all know that more crimes are committed that just the 6 mass shootings as you claim.
about 2% of all murders are committed with rifles of any kind that means an even smaller percentage are killed with the black one that you are so scared of

And the black one owns the worst mass killings.

again so what?

Ban the single most popular rifle in the country and then the second most popular rifle will be used nothing will change as long as we just let anyone walk willy nilly into schools

Ban high capacity magazines.
 
Lol
Na,They are just sporting rifles you watch far too many Hollywood movies made by child molesting Hollywood types... so quit falling down the fucking well you little weasel

Yeah sure. If hunting people is your “sport”.
so get rid of the AR15 and that "sport" goes away. is that your premise?

how many people are killed a year with an AR15? now a .45 or 9mm?

I don’t know . The nra uses its power to stop any gov sponcered studies .

It does seem like a popular weapon in the weekly barricaded nut cop shootinbg .


The nra uses its power to stop any gov sponcered studies .


That is a lie....

No, The Government Is Not 'Banned' From Studying Gun Violence

Absolutely nothing in the amendment prohibits the CDC from studying “gun violence,” even if this narrowly focused topic tells us little. In response to this inconvenient fact, gun controllers will explain that while there isn’t an outright ban, the Dickey amendment has a “chilling” effect on the study of gun violence.


Does it? Pointing out that “research plummeted after the 1996 ban” could just as easily tell us that most research funded by the CDC had been politically motivated. Because the idea that the CDC, whose spectacular mission creep has taken it from its primary goal of preventing malaria and other dangerous communicable diseases, to spending hundreds of millions of dollars nagging you about how much salt you put on your steaks or how often you do calisthenics, is nervous about the repercussions of engaging in non-partisan research is hard to believe.

Also unlikely is the notion that a $2.6 million cut in funding so horrified the agency that it was rendered powerless to pay for or conduct studies on gun violence. The CDC funding tripled from 1996 to 2010. The CDC’s budget is over six billion dollars today.

And the idea that the CDC was paralyzed through two-years of full Democratic Party control, and then six years under a president who was more antagonistic towards the Second Amendment than any other in history, is difficult to believe, because it’s provably false.

In 2013, President Barack Obama not only signed an Executive Order directing the CDC to research “gun violence,” the administration also provided an additional $10 million to do it. Here is the study on gun violence that was supposedly banned and yet funded by the CDC. You might not have heard about the resulting research, because it contains numerous inconvenient facts about gun ownership that fails to propel the predetermined narrative. Trump’s HHS Secretary Alex Azar is also open to the idea of funding more gun violence research.

It’s not banned. It’s not chilled.

Meanwhile, numerous states and private entities fund peer-reviewed studies and other research on gun violence. I know this because gun control advocates are constantly sending me studies that distort and conflate issues to help them make their arguments. My inbox is bombarded with studies and conferences and “webinars” dissecting gun violence.

The real problem here is two-fold. One, researchers want the CDC involved so they can access government data about American gun owners. Considering the rhetoric coming from Democrats — gun ownership being tantamount to terrorism, and so on — there’s absolutely no reason Republicans should acquiesce to helping gun controllers circumvent the privacy of Americans citizens peacefully practicing their Constitutional rights.

Second, gun control advocates want to lift the ban on politically skewed research because they’re interested in producing politically skewed research. When the American Medical Association declares gun violence a “public health crisis,” it’s not interested in a balance look at the issue. When researchers advocate lifting the restrictions on advocacy at the CDC, they don’t even pretend they not to hold pre-conceived notions about the outcomes.

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There’s no reason to allow activists — then or now — to use the veneer of state-sanctioned science for their partisan purposes. For example, we now know that Rosenberg and others at the CDC turned out to be wrong about the correlation between guns and crime — a steep drop in gun crimes coincided with the explosions of gun ownership from 1996 to 2014.


So government studies are skewed but not the ones sponsored by the NRA & Republicans & Gun makers.

I get it.

My God.

Further note, Mr lying POIS, the Dickey Amendment said the CDC could not use any funding for the study of injury prevention or control to advocate or promote gun violence. So what? They can study it & only report their findings if they don't show anything negative on gun control? This was heavily lobbied for by the NRA.
you mean like the government study Obama had the CDC conduct?

The one that said firearms are an important deterrent to crime and that people who use guns in self defense have lower injury rate than those who don't.

THAT government study?
 
When the hell did people have automatics? link?
Firearm Owners Protection Act - Wikipedia

See, this is why ignorant people should get the fuck out of the gun debate. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Let us make the decisions.
Here, stupid.
Question after Orlando: Are assault rifles banned? No, only fully automatic are ...
PolitiFact › statements › jun › ron-johnson

Jun 20, 2016 · One law in 1935 all but banned automatic weapons like the Tommy gun. And another in 1986 prohibited fully automatic weapons, except for pre-existing weapons that were grandfathered i
 
There are 8 million AR-15 civilian rifles, some say even more......and recently, 6 have been used...about that anyway...for mass shootings...while the other 8 million in private hands were not used to commit any crime....
We all know that more crimes are committed that just the 6 mass shootings as you claim.
about 2% of all murders are committed with rifles of any kind that means an even smaller percentage are killed with the black one that you are so scared of

And the black one owns the worst mass killings.

again so what?

Ban the single most popular rifle in the country and then the second most popular rifle will be used nothing will change as long as we just let anyone walk willy nilly into schools

Ban high capacity magazines.

The FL shooter used 10 round magazines

Hardly high capacity
 
We all know that more crimes are committed that just the 6 mass shootings as you claim.
about 2% of all murders are committed with rifles of any kind that means an even smaller percentage are killed with the black one that you are so scared of

And the black one owns the worst mass killings.

again so what?

Ban the single most popular rifle in the country and then the second most popular rifle will be used nothing will change as long as we just let anyone walk willy nilly into schools

Ban high capacity magazines.

The FL shooter used 10 round magazines

Hardly high capacity

Which one? They have lots of shootings. Link?
 
what a bunch legalese gobbledygook. People have never been allowed to have machine guns in my lifetime 66 years except in very very limited areas.
You are a complete moron. We had the right to automatics without restriction up until 1934. Then, we had the right to automatics under a special tax, which we STILL HAVE!!!! We just can't buy any new automatics manufactured after May 1986.

You are ignorant on the topic of guns, their operation, and their laws. GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS DEBATE. YOU SUCK!!!
 
What “sport” are they used for ?

You gun nerds failed to answer .
Sport shooting
Hunting
Home defense
General hobbies

You not liking the answers doesn't make them less true.

Please . What hunter is using an AR ? Sport hunting is also bullshit . And handguns are far better for home defense .

"General hobbies " is a laughable non answer .
 
What “sport” are they used for ?

You gun nerds failed to answer .



Sport.....3 gun competitions.....in particular, I could care less about sport, they are a self defense rifle.....

So the sport thing is BS . Let's be honest . The self defense is also BS. Way better options for that.

Way better options...wait, no, you aren't gonna write Trump's name on his sidewalk?
 
Mental illness plus scary styled super soldier military weapons equal insane mass shootings.
Those scary looking weapons just cause people to go batshit crazy and start shooting people?
:auiqs.jpg:

They sure kill a lot of people really fast when a crazy gets one.
So can a big ass 4x4 with an 8 foot steel plow

Roads can be blocked. You want all mass killing options available?
Bombs planes trains automobiles pressure cookers poison

And unlike you I don't think a killing ls less important because only one guy gets killed.

The FACT is that mass shootings account for 1% of all murders
The FACT is that rifles f any kind are used to commit about 2% of all murders

The FACT is that 70% of all murders take place in 5% of all the counties in the USA

These are facts. You argue from fear and emotion
 

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