Dr Grump
Platinum Member
C'mon, who seriously thought the Repubs would want transparency? They're loons...
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I asked you to quote not pointIt was Dershowitz, on the Senate floor, in the trial. Good God man, pay attention!Fake news
Quote the republican who said that
I don't care what you asked me. If you are not willing to learn the basic facts of this topic, that's on you. It's not my job to spoonfeed them to you. A minimum of effort will lead you right to dershowitz's hilariously stupid argument.I askedyou to quote not pointIt was Dershowitz, on the Senate floor, in the trial. Good God man, pay attention!Fake news
Quote the republican who said that
Republicans lose either wayI think it will be a vote on new witnessesWhat I don't know is what the exact wording is for the first senate vote after the 16-hour Q & A part is over.
1. Will it be a vote to dismiss?
2. Will it be a vote to acquit or remove?
If the trial continues, then the next vote will be on witnesses.
On new witnesses, it could go either way. It's just too tight. Yes, 3 Republicans want new witnesses but it takes 4 and the rest of the Republicans are pretty well in lock step. It's not something I would bet a hat on.
Let them explain it to the voters
Those who favor witnesses the same. Don't believe for a minute this can be good for you people.
I believe in Justice. Get the Witnesses. Let the chips fly and end up where they lie. Truth is truth. There is so much being held in the shadows that WE, the PEOPLE, should know the truth. And it doesn't matter if it harms one side or the other as long as the truth comes out. To do anything less is just the Deep State. And if you are supporting suppressing evidence and truth then YOU are part of the same deep state you keep condemning.
A president needs confidentiality between himself and his inner circle in order to do his jobRepublicans lose either wayI think it will be a vote on new witnesses
On new witnesses, it could go either way. It's just too tight. Yes, 3 Republicans want new witnesses but it takes 4 and the rest of the Republicans are pretty well in lock step. It's not something I would bet a hat on.
Let them explain it to the voters
Those who favor witnesses the same. Don't believe for a minute this can be good for you people.
I believe in Justice. Get the Witnesses. Let the chips fly and end up where they lie. Truth is truth. There is so much being held in the shadows that WE, the PEOPLE, should know the truth. And it doesn't matter if it harms one side or the other as long as the truth comes out. To do anything less is just the Deep State. And if you are supporting suppressing evidence and truth then YOU are part of the same deep state you keep condemning.
You made a claimI don't care what you asked me. If you are not willing to learn the basic facts of this topic, that's on you. It's not my job to spoonfeed them to you. A minimum of effort will lead you right to dershowitz's hilariously stupid argument.I askedyou to quote not pointIt was Dershowitz, on the Senate floor, in the trial. Good God man, pay attention!Fake news
Quote the republican who said that
It's pretty embarrassing. I think even you might blush.
There was nothing nefarious to hideA president needs confidentiality between himself and his inner circle in order to do his jobRepublicans lose either wayOn new witnesses, it could go either way. It's just too tight. Yes, 3 Republicans want new witnesses but it takes 4 and the rest of the Republicans are pretty well in lock step. It's not something I would bet a hat on.
Let them explain it to the voters
Those who favor witnesses the same. Don't believe for a minute this can be good for you people.
I believe in Justice. Get the Witnesses. Let the chips fly and end up where they lie. Truth is truth. There is so much being held in the shadows that WE, the PEOPLE, should know the truth. And it doesn't matter if it harms one side or the other as long as the truth comes out. To do anything less is just the Deep State. And if you are supporting suppressing evidence and truth then YOU are part of the same deep state you keep condemning.
Everything a President does and says job related is recorded. With Nixon, it was taped. With Rump, he has transcribers around him all the time. it's done to not only protect the nation but to also protect the President and others. All of those transcripts are turned over to the NSA after review by the White House and then they are classified, digitized and filed in the appropriate servers. The July calls were ordered to be filed on a server that had a much higher classification than it deserved by order of the White House. The NSA corrected that. Just because a president wants to hide something nefarious doesn't allow him to raise the security classification higher than it should be. Sooner or later, the NSA is going to correct that misstep.
And there are many levels of security classification. Not all conversations will be listed as Top Secret or even Secret. Some will be classed as routine, some will be classed as confidential. The last two, if known, can be obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. You keep thinking the President, alone, gets to make these decisions. No, the NSA has an entire division that that's their job. My Niece, from time to time, is involved in that process. She isn't right now. She's currently an Analyst for the Department of Home Security. Well, She was last week. Who know about next week. I never ask and She never says.
A President is NOT a King no matter how much Rump tries to act like one and you believe he is.
Republicans lose either wayI think it will be a vote on new witnesses
On new witnesses, it could go either way. It's just too tight. Yes, 3 Republicans want new witnesses but it takes 4 and the rest of the Republicans are pretty well in lock step. It's not something I would bet a hat on.
Let them explain it to the voters
Those who favor witnesses the same. Don't believe for a minute this can be good for you people.
I believe in Justice. Get the Witnesses. Let the chips fly and end up where they lie. Truth is truth. There is so much being held in the shadows that WE, the PEOPLE, should know the truth. And it doesn't matter if it harms one side or the other as long as the truth comes out. To do anything less is just the Deep State. And if you are supporting suppressing evidence and truth then YOU are part of the same deep state you keep condemning.
So it's okay that the commies keep the two people hidden that started all this, but now you say the truth is what people are after? What about the 18th witness that Schiff is surpassing? What is the truth he is hiding over there?
This isn't that difficult to follow. If the House has an impeachable offense with proof of their charge, then they present it. Apparently the commies lied once again. They didn't have proof of the charge, and now they want the Republicans to help them find it. Sorry, we don't play those leftist games.
There was nothing nefarious to hideA president needs confidentiality between himself and his inner circle in order to do his jobRepublicans lose either way
Let them explain it to the voters
Those who favor witnesses the same. Don't believe for a minute this can be good for you people.
I believe in Justice. Get the Witnesses. Let the chips fly and end up where they lie. Truth is truth. There is so much being held in the shadows that WE, the PEOPLE, should know the truth. And it doesn't matter if it harms one side or the other as long as the truth comes out. To do anything less is just the Deep State. And if you are supporting suppressing evidence and truth then YOU are part of the same deep state you keep condemning.
Everything a President does and says job related is recorded. With Nixon, it was taped. With Rump, he has transcribers around him all the time. it's done to not only protect the nation but to also protect the President and others. All of those transcripts are turned over to the NSA after review by the White House and then they are classified, digitized and filed in the appropriate servers. The July calls were ordered to be filed on a server that had a much higher classification than it deserved by order of the White House. The NSA corrected that. Just because a president wants to hide something nefarious doesn't allow him to raise the security classification higher than it should be. Sooner or later, the NSA is going to correct that misstep.
And there are many levels of security classification. Not all conversations will be listed as Top Secret or even Secret. Some will be classed as routine, some will be classed as confidential. The last two, if known, can be obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. You keep thinking the President, alone, gets to make these decisions. No, the NSA has an entire division that that's their job. My Niece, from time to time, is involved in that process. She isn't right now. She's currently an Analyst for the Department of Home Security. Well, She was last week. Who know about next week. I never ask and She never says.
A President is NOT a King no matter how much Rump tries to act like one and you believe he is.
we have all seen the transcript/summary and there is nothing there
There was no damning info at any timeThere was nothing nefarious to hideA president needs confidentiality between himself and his inner circle in order to do his jobThose who favor witnesses the same. Don't believe for a minute this can be good for you people.
I believe in Justice. Get the Witnesses. Let the chips fly and end up where they lie. Truth is truth. There is so much being held in the shadows that WE, the PEOPLE, should know the truth. And it doesn't matter if it harms one side or the other as long as the truth comes out. To do anything less is just the Deep State. And if you are supporting suppressing evidence and truth then YOU are part of the same deep state you keep condemning.
Everything a President does and says job related is recorded. With Nixon, it was taped. With Rump, he has transcribers around him all the time. it's done to not only protect the nation but to also protect the President and others. All of those transcripts are turned over to the NSA after review by the White House and then they are classified, digitized and filed in the appropriate servers. The July calls were ordered to be filed on a server that had a much higher classification than it deserved by order of the White House. The NSA corrected that. Just because a president wants to hide something nefarious doesn't allow him to raise the security classification higher than it should be. Sooner or later, the NSA is going to correct that misstep.
And there are many levels of security classification. Not all conversations will be listed as Top Secret or even Secret. Some will be classed as routine, some will be classed as confidential. The last two, if known, can be obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. You keep thinking the President, alone, gets to make these decisions. No, the NSA has an entire division that that's their job. My Niece, from time to time, is involved in that process. She isn't right now. She's currently an Analyst for the Department of Home Security. Well, She was last week. Who know about next week. I never ask and She never says.
A President is NOT a King no matter how much Rump tries to act like one and you believe he is.
we have all seen the transcript/summary and there is nothing there
Which transcript. There was one released where there was nothing really there. But the next day's transcript was quite damning. You know, the one that had all the redacted black over the damning information that later got released through the freedom of information act once it was reclassified correctly?
Republicans lose either wayOn new witnesses, it could go either way. It's just too tight. Yes, 3 Republicans want new witnesses but it takes 4 and the rest of the Republicans are pretty well in lock step. It's not something I would bet a hat on.
Let them explain it to the voters
Those who favor witnesses the same. Don't believe for a minute this can be good for you people.
I believe in Justice. Get the Witnesses. Let the chips fly and end up where they lie. Truth is truth. There is so much being held in the shadows that WE, the PEOPLE, should know the truth. And it doesn't matter if it harms one side or the other as long as the truth comes out. To do anything less is just the Deep State. And if you are supporting suppressing evidence and truth then YOU are part of the same deep state you keep condemning.
So it's okay that the commies keep the two people hidden that started all this, but now you say the truth is what people are after? What about the 18th witness that Schiff is surpassing? What is the truth he is hiding over there?
This isn't that difficult to follow. If the House has an impeachable offense with proof of their charge, then they present it. Apparently the commies lied once again. They didn't have proof of the charge, and now they want the Republicans to help them find it. Sorry, we don't play those leftist games.
Another case of "Hey, Look Over There".
The “commies” have not failed yetRepublicans lose either way
Let them explain it to the voters
Those who favor witnesses the same. Don't believe for a minute this can be good for you people.
I believe in Justice. Get the Witnesses. Let the chips fly and end up where they lie. Truth is truth. There is so much being held in the shadows that WE, the PEOPLE, should know the truth. And it doesn't matter if it harms one side or the other as long as the truth comes out. To do anything less is just the Deep State. And if you are supporting suppressing evidence and truth then YOU are part of the same deep state you keep condemning.
So it's okay that the commies keep the two people hidden that started all this, but now you say the truth is what people are after? What about the 18th witness that Schiff is surpassing? What is the truth he is hiding over there?
This isn't that difficult to follow. If the House has an impeachable offense with proof of their charge, then they present it. Apparently the commies lied once again. They didn't have proof of the charge, and now they want the Republicans to help them find it. Sorry, we don't play those leftist games.
Another case of "Hey, Look Over There".
It's actually a case where the impeachment articles are bogus because there was not any substantial proof of the charge. The commies know this quite well, but impeached him without the necessary information to do it properly.
Transparency is not good if it keeps the president from making America great again.C'mon, who seriously thought the Repubs would want transparency? They're loons...
The “commies” have not failed yetThose who favor witnesses the same. Don't believe for a minute this can be good for you people.
I believe in Justice. Get the Witnesses. Let the chips fly and end up where they lie. Truth is truth. There is so much being held in the shadows that WE, the PEOPLE, should know the truth. And it doesn't matter if it harms one side or the other as long as the truth comes out. To do anything less is just the Deep State. And if you are supporting suppressing evidence and truth then YOU are part of the same deep state you keep condemning.
So it's okay that the commies keep the two people hidden that started all this, but now you say the truth is what people are after? What about the 18th witness that Schiff is surpassing? What is the truth he is hiding over there?
This isn't that difficult to follow. If the House has an impeachable offense with proof of their charge, then they present it. Apparently the commies lied once again. They didn't have proof of the charge, and now they want the Republicans to help them find it. Sorry, we don't play those leftist games.
Another case of "Hey, Look Over There".
It's actually a case where the impeachment articles are bogus because there was not any substantial proof of the charge. The commies know this quite well, but impeached him without the necessary information to do it properly.
I think all they are hoping for is to defeat trump in november
which they plan to do by driving down his popularity
There was no damning info at any timeThere was nothing nefarious to hideA president needs confidentiality between himself and his inner circle in order to do his jobI believe in Justice. Get the Witnesses. Let the chips fly and end up where they lie. Truth is truth. There is so much being held in the shadows that WE, the PEOPLE, should know the truth. And it doesn't matter if it harms one side or the other as long as the truth comes out. To do anything less is just the Deep State. And if you are supporting suppressing evidence and truth then YOU are part of the same deep state you keep condemning.
Everything a President does and says job related is recorded. With Nixon, it was taped. With Rump, he has transcribers around him all the time. it's done to not only protect the nation but to also protect the President and others. All of those transcripts are turned over to the NSA after review by the White House and then they are classified, digitized and filed in the appropriate servers. The July calls were ordered to be filed on a server that had a much higher classification than it deserved by order of the White House. The NSA corrected that. Just because a president wants to hide something nefarious doesn't allow him to raise the security classification higher than it should be. Sooner or later, the NSA is going to correct that misstep.
And there are many levels of security classification. Not all conversations will be listed as Top Secret or even Secret. Some will be classed as routine, some will be classed as confidential. The last two, if known, can be obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. You keep thinking the President, alone, gets to make these decisions. No, the NSA has an entire division that that's their job. My Niece, from time to time, is involved in that process. She isn't right now. She's currently an Analyst for the Department of Home Security. Well, She was last week. Who know about next week. I never ask and She never says.
A President is NOT a King no matter how much Rump tries to act like one and you believe he is.
we have all seen the transcript/summary and there is nothing there
Which transcript. There was one released where there was nothing really there. But the next day's transcript was quite damning. You know, the one that had all the redacted black over the damning information that later got released through the freedom of information act once it was reclassified correctly?
The “commies” have not failed yetThose who favor witnesses the same. Don't believe for a minute this can be good for you people.
I believe in Justice. Get the Witnesses. Let the chips fly and end up where they lie. Truth is truth. There is so much being held in the shadows that WE, the PEOPLE, should know the truth. And it doesn't matter if it harms one side or the other as long as the truth comes out. To do anything less is just the Deep State. And if you are supporting suppressing evidence and truth then YOU are part of the same deep state you keep condemning.
So it's okay that the commies keep the two people hidden that started all this, but now you say the truth is what people are after? What about the 18th witness that Schiff is surpassing? What is the truth he is hiding over there?
This isn't that difficult to follow. If the House has an impeachable offense with proof of their charge, then they present it. Apparently the commies lied once again. They didn't have proof of the charge, and now they want the Republicans to help them find it. Sorry, we don't play those leftist games.
Another case of "Hey, Look Over There".
It's actually a case where the impeachment articles are bogus because there was not any substantial proof of the charge. The commies know this quite well, but impeached him without the necessary information to do it properly.
I think all they are hoping for is to defeat trump in november
which they plan to do by driving down his popularity
Republicans lose either way
Let them explain it to the voters
Those who favor witnesses the same. Don't believe for a minute this can be good for you people.
I believe in Justice. Get the Witnesses. Let the chips fly and end up where they lie. Truth is truth. There is so much being held in the shadows that WE, the PEOPLE, should know the truth. And it doesn't matter if it harms one side or the other as long as the truth comes out. To do anything less is just the Deep State. And if you are supporting suppressing evidence and truth then YOU are part of the same deep state you keep condemning.
So it's okay that the commies keep the two people hidden that started all this, but now you say the truth is what people are after? What about the 18th witness that Schiff is surpassing? What is the truth he is hiding over there?
This isn't that difficult to follow. If the House has an impeachable offense with proof of their charge, then they present it. Apparently the commies lied once again. They didn't have proof of the charge, and now they want the Republicans to help them find it. Sorry, we don't play those leftist games.
Another case of "Hey, Look Over There".
It's actually a case where the impeachment articles are bogus because there was not any substantial proof of the charge. The commies know this quite well, but impeached him without the necessary information to do it properly.