McConnell Wants the Filibuster Nuked

[rightwinger]

McConnell is a naked, cynical, hypocritical partisan

He WILL nuke the filibuster the minute he gets control of the Senate

No, he won’t

Because Biden could still veto anything he passed

 

[Lesh]

No, he won’t

Because Biden could still veto anything he passed

He'll use it right up until he no longer needs it...then poof

 

[Papageorgio]

Don't know if it will hurt them, but agree with you on everything else, Maybe that's just wishful thinking that people want a return to some semblance of sanity.

The best solution is to have a Democratic President and a Republican Congress, there seems to be better management across the aisles and more responsible spending but this partisan with no compromise stuff is killing the nation.

 

[Lesh]

The best solution is to have a Democratic President and a Republican Congress, there seems to be better management across the aisles and more responsible spending but this partisan with no compromise stuff is killing the nation.

That would be no better.

 

[Batcat]

As noted in the OP

McConnell is a cynical partisan who cares only about power...NOT the nation

You could say that about many of the people we have elected to Congress and even to the Presidency.

 

[Papageorgio]

That would be no better.

Fiscally it is a good combo, Clinton and Gingrich work out many deals that helped keep spending down.

That you dislike it seems to reinforce my opinion. I don't want more spending, we need less and more taxes on everyone.

 

[Lastamender]

Same way McConnells antics forced Dems to abandon the filibuster on low level judicial appointments

McConnell is irresponsible with the filibuster
Needs to be taken away from him

The filibuster is there for a very good reason. It prevents the tyranny of the majority. Follow the Constitution, do not destroy it.

 

[JoeMoma]

Nonsense

We will see in 2022.

 

[OKTexas]

Biden Says ‘Real Possibility’ Senate Democrats Change Filibuster Rules To Raise Debt Ceiling

The off-the-cuff remarks are a notable shift in the president's thinking as Democrats are frustrated by GOP efforts to prevent simple majority votes.

www.huffpost.com

McConnell has admitted that it is hugely important to raise the Debt ceiling. He admits that it would be a disaster for the economy to not do so and yet he is using the filibuster to block the bill that would raise it.

He claims that Dems could use reconciliation (which under Senate rules can not be filibustered). The problem is that reconciliation is a huge bill and takes far more time than we have . McConnell knows this. He's an expert on Senate rules and procedures.

So what is he doing? He's gambling. He's pushing our economy to the edge of the financial cliff. He is betting that Republicans will take back Congress either in 2022 or 2024.

Dems are talking about "nuking" ONLY debt ceiling bills regarding the filibuster and leaving the rest in place. That would mean that Republicans can still block large parts of the Biden agenda.

McConnell will use that as an excuse to TOTALLY nuke everything and blame it on the Dems. That's what the cynical bastard did with Judicial Appointments. He blocked almost all of Obama's lower court judicial appointments and even Cabinet appointments. As a result Dems removed the filibuster for those appointments but left the filibuster in place for Supreme Court appointments.

McConnell used that as an excuse to nuke all judicial appointments. He'll do the same here

Dems will probably HAVE to nuke the filibuster for the debt ceiling but they'd be stupid to stop there. It will be gone anyway really soon and if THEY don't nuke it...they will have lost the opportunity to push through the Biden agenda.

Of course the stumbling point are the conservadems Sinema and Mancin who don't seem to know what party they represent.

The ignorance of you commies knows no bounds. Senators represents their States, not their party.

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[Lesh]

The filibuster is there for a very good reason. It prevents the tyranny of the majority. Follow the Constitution, do not destroy it.

Because you prefer the tyranny of the MINORITY

 

[rightwinger]

The filibuster is there for a very good reason. It prevents the tyranny of the majority. Follow the Constitution, do not destroy it.

It allows you to rule from the minority
The very definition of tyranny

 

[Lastamender]

It allows you to rule from the minority
The very definition of tyranny

No it does not. Tell me how it does?

 

[kaz]

Biden Says ‘Real Possibility’ Senate Democrats Change Filibuster Rules To Raise Debt Ceiling

The off-the-cuff remarks are a notable shift in the president's thinking as Democrats are frustrated by GOP efforts to prevent simple majority votes.

www.huffpost.com

McConnell has admitted that it is hugely important to raise the Debt ceiling. He admits that it would be a disaster for the economy to not do so and yet he is using the filibuster to block the bill that would raise it.

He claims that Dems could use reconciliation (which under Senate rules can not be filibustered). The problem is that reconciliation is a huge bill and takes far more time than we have . McConnell knows this. He's an expert on Senate rules and procedures.

So what is he doing? He's gambling. He's pushing our economy to the edge of the financial cliff. He is betting that Republicans will take back Congress either in 2022 or 2024.

Dems are talking about "nuking" ONLY debt ceiling bills regarding the filibuster and leaving the rest in place. That would mean that Republicans can still block large parts of the Biden agenda.

McConnell will use that as an excuse to TOTALLY nuke everything and blame it on the Dems. That's what the cynical bastard did with Judicial Appointments. He blocked almost all of Obama's lower court judicial appointments and even Cabinet appointments. As a result Dems removed the filibuster for those appointments but left the filibuster in place for Supreme Court appointments.

McConnell used that as an excuse to nuke all judicial appointments. He'll do the same here

Dems will probably HAVE to nuke the filibuster for the debt ceiling but they'd be stupid to stop there. It will be gone anyway really soon and if THEY don't nuke it...they will have lost the opportunity to push through the Biden agenda.

Of course the stumbling point are the conservadems Sinema and Mancin who don't seem to know what party they represent.

McConnell has a dubious history at best of being a conservative. I'm sure he's fine with the filibuster going away. When he gets the Senate back, the Democrats will have removed it for him. He gets it gone and isn't to blame. Democrats never think things through. And you've done this before with Democrat inventing filibustering judges under W, which came back to totally burn ... you ...

 

[kaz]

As noted in the OP

McConnell is a cynical partisan who cares only about power...NOT the nation

Yes, only Democrats care about the country. Sure, Chief. You're a partisan idiot

 

[Dadoalex]

LOL yeah.
I like you admitted dems dont care about the budget and PORK. Freudian slip, but i will take it.

The data would indicate that the Democrats not only care about reducing the deficit BUT actually care about what the money does.

As opposed to the GOP money bingers who ensure that unlimited monies go from the government right into the pockets of their rich donors.

1981-1993 GOP blew up the budget, the deficit, and debt.
1993-2001 A Democratic president bought down the deficit to ZERO.
2001-2009 Another GOP president, this time with a GOP congress gave billions to the rich, started two wars not paid for, an unpaid for entitlement, and then, for the closer, destroyed the economy again exploding the debt and deficit.
2009-2017 Obama inherited Bush' mess and worked diligently to reduce the deficit left by Bush by more than 75%.
2017-2021 Trump with a GOP congress gave a trillion bucks to the wealthy again, blowing up the debt and deficit.

Seems you guys only become fiscally conservative when you can't do anything about it.

 

[TNHarley]

The data would indicate that the Democrats not only care about reducing the deficit BUT actually care about what the money does.

As opposed to the GOP money bingers who ensure that unlimited monies go from the government right into the pockets of their rich donors.

1981-1993 GOP blew up the budget, the deficit, and debt.
1993-2001 A Democratic president bought down the deficit to ZERO.
2001-2009 Another GOP president, this time with a GOP congress gave billions to the rich, started two wars not paid for, an unpaid for entitlement, and then, for the closer, destroyed the economy again exploding the debt and deficit.
2009-2017 Obama inherited Bush' mess and worked diligently to reduce the deficit left by Bush by more than 75%.
2017-2021 Trump with a GOP congress gave a trillion bucks to the wealthy again, blowing up the debt and deficit.

Seems you guys only become fiscally conservative when you can't do anything about it.

Im not a conservative, you binary dumbfuck. I wont even bother responding to the rest of your shit.

 

[Dadoalex]

High enough to pay existing obligations.

The debt ceiling is not "about" spending. It's about how we pay for spending already approved (obligations).

In essence raising the debt ceiling is akin to writing the check to pay bills.

NOT raising it will put us in default and crash the economy.

McConnell had admitted this but doesn't give a shit

The debt ceiling is a myth, It is unconsitutional.

"The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. "

The US must pay its debts for all legally passed obligations.

 

[Dadoalex]

Im not a conservative, you binary dumbfuck. I wont even bother responding to the rest of your shit.

Well then we'll just call you a moronic troll.
Since you claimed only Democrats don't care about the debt and deficit, and
Since you claim not to believe in the content of your own posts,
This qualifies you as an official Querdeken Troll.
Congratulations.

 

[FA_Q2]

Because you prefer the tyranny of the MINORITY

Government inaction because it fails to achieve a significant consensus is not tyranny.

 

[Nostra]

The debt ceiling is a myth, It is unconsitutional.

"The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. "

The US must pay its debts for all legally passed obligations.

Raising the debt ceiling is so Dimwingers can add more debt. Has nothing to do with past spending.