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[Quantum Windbag]

I was thinking more like a degree in Bible Study. But since you have no degree at all, the point it "moot".

There is a small problem with that argument rdean, theology is not considered liberal arts. One would think that someone who is well educated, like, for example, an engineer, would know that.

You just beat yourself in an argument, for the first time ever, you won a debate on this board.

The Theological Foundations of the Christian Liberal Arts in Relation to the Distinctives of the Christian Liberal Arts College/University

sigh

You specified a degree in Bible Study, aka Theology. Theology is not a liberal art.

By the way, the article you linked to is about whether Christians should pursue a Liberal Arts degree, and offers some theological insight into why the author thinks it is a good idea. It also encourages Christian schools to offer liberal arts courses. I guess that, in the end, you actually found something that makes my point, theology is not liberal arts.

Maybe you should have read more than the title.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Just saw this, sorry for not replying earlier.

But you used it to have a go at the economy and, by implication, Obama's government.
Perhaps you'd like to retract your statement.

I never mentioned Obama, the economy does suck, and I already admitted I jumped too early. I expect to see this in a few years though, especially if we start pretending that college is free.

Perhaps more reflection and study and less "jumping"?

Just a suggestion.

This from the guy that jumps every time Limbaugh says something.

 

[rdean]

Just saw this, sorry for not replying earlier.



I never mentioned Obama, the economy does suck, and I already admitted I jumped too early. I expect to see this in a few years though, especially if we start pretending that college is free.

Perhaps more reflection and study and less "jumping"?

Just a suggestion.

This from the guy that jumps every time Limbaugh says something.

Who?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Where do you get this information? Do you have any facts to support your assertion? For the past 10 years, I've been working internationally, for non-American concerns, working and living in foreign countries, including four years in Europe. My co-workers are from around the world, including from the United States. As well, I have met countless Americans working for non-American employers around the world. There is no evidence from my experience that people educated in American schools are considered inferior in any way to those educated in Europe. My personal experience in working closely with Europeans (not only in Europe but in other countries as well) is that their education is, essentially, no different than my own and that Americans succeed as well at all levels in my field as do Europeans. I have not worked for an American owned concern for 10 years.

I agree that a lot of posters on this message board exhibit poor thinking skills, poor use of language, an inadequate grasp of history, and a limited knowledge base. However, they do not represent American college and university graduates in general. I've been on other forums whose members, primarily American, do not exhibit, on average, that level of ignorance and weak development of the mind. You should go on a British based forum sometime and see how well educated the average Brit appears to be. Oh, and btw, I have a liberal arts degree: I have not found it to be useless, quite the contrary.

Of course not. You are working with those who have excelled.
Not a cross section at all.Bottom line.. Out public education system is not about learning. It is about indoctrination.
Students are not taught to think critically. The mode is memorization and regurgitation to prepare for standardized testing. Independent thought, non-conformity and debate are not permitted.
Basic skills such as language usage, sentence construction, creative writing, basic math skills, US history, geography and civics are no longer taught to the degree to that of when I went to school in the 60's and 70's.

It is of note that "Independent thought, non-conformity and debate are" rarely permitted in Asian education. "The mode is memorization and regurgitation."

I think most of the people I encounter represent middle to higher, yes. If they didn't, they probably would not have the initiative to seek overseas employment.

Standardized testing is certainly, imo, a plague on American education; however, it is limited to elementary and secondary education and has no connection to college and university programs. There are good universities in the US, mediocre ones and poor ones. It is a fact that students from all over the world aspire to study in American universities, a fact which somehow belies the premise that they are not on a par with the rest of the world.

BTW, Saigon, how many people are knocking themselves out to get into Finnish universities? Besides Finns? ; )

"has no connection to college and university programs."
Wanna bet? If you went to college, before acceptance you either sat for an SAT or ACT exam. Each of which is a standardized multiple choice examination.
Most states now use standardized testing through the 12th grade.
In New York, students must sit for and pass Regent's Exams before eligibility for promotion to the next grade level.

 

[Saigon]

Esmeralda -

I missed this earlier:

BTW, Saigon, how many people are knocking themselves out to get into Finnish universities? Besides Finns? ; )

There are several thousand foreign students here - it's very much a target destination for students from Spain and Germany, in particular. This is partially because Finland is strong in certain areas (nanotechnologies, engineering, mobile tech) but also because university here is free!!

 

[WorldWatcher]

If you went to college, before acceptance you either sat for an SAT or ACT exam. Each of which is a standardized multiple choice examination.

I don't know why this jumped out at me, but ...


.......................... I didn't.



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[thereisnospoon]

Esmeralda -

I missed this earlier:

BTW, Saigon, how many people are knocking themselves out to get into Finnish universities? Besides Finns? ; )

There are several thousand foreign students here - it's very much a target destination for students from Spain and Germany, in particular. This is partially because Finland is strong in certain areas (nanotechnologies, engineering, mobile tech) but also because university here is free!!

When are you libs going to get it through your thick skulls that there is no such thing as "free"?

 

[Saigon]

thereisnospoon -

Perhaps you did not understand what was posted - which is always funny when someone is ranting about "getting it through their thick skulls" - but if a student arrives in Finland from Germany - their university studies here are free.

Let me know if you need further help figuring this out.

 

[thereisnospoon]

thereisnospoon -

Perhaps you did not understand what was posted - which is always funny when someone is ranting about "getting it through their thick skulls" - but if a student arrives in Finland from Germany - their university studies here are free.

Let me know if you need further help figuring this out.

One last time. There is no such thing as "free"...Someone has got to pay. If the student isn't, then someone else NOT getting that education IS paying. Get it?..Funding for higher education just doesn't appear via osmosis. Someone MUST be saddled with that burden. Often it is the taxpayer. So please, your idea of a socialist utopia in the arena of education does not exist. Someone is always footing the bill.

 

[Saigon]

Thereisnospoon -

Firstly, Finland has a Conservative government.

Secondly, education for foreign students here is free. Yes, education costs, but it does not cost them, their parents or tax payers. i call that free.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Thereisnospoon -

Firstly, Finland has a Conservative government.

Secondly, education for foreign students here is free. Yes, education costs, but it does not cost them, their parents or tax payers. i call that free.

Does not cost the taxpayers? Ok, so who or what funds the Finnish government? The tooth fairy?
Unbelievable. I cannot fathom how anyone could believe that "free" exists.
Trust me, it does not.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Thereisnospoon -

Firstly, Finland has a Conservative government.

Secondly, education for foreign students here is free. Yes, education costs, but it does not cost them, their parents or tax payers. i call that free.

Lying again? Is this on purpose, or are you just so stupid you think taxes don't come from taxpayers?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Thereisnospoon -

Firstly, Finland has a Conservative government.

Secondly, education for foreign students here is free. Yes, education costs, but it does not cost them, their parents or tax payers. i call that free.

Lying again? Is this on purpose, or are you just so stupid you think taxes don't come from taxpayers?

Quote of the year....."it does not cost the taxpayers"....Holy shit...
It's a miracle!!!!! Free college education funded by David Copperfield!

 

[LilOlLady]

Most of the jobs at McDonalds are held by illegal aliens who cannot even speak English and not eve an 8th grade education. Students used to do them but not they are taken by illegal aliens. And you work your way up to management. The owner of most of the McDonalds here in reno were own by a man who did not have a high school education. Tell this to a village idiot and he may believe it.

 

[Saigon]

QW, Spoon -

Try and understand this, because it is actually a little complex.

A student comes to Finland from Germany.

He pays no fees. His parents pay no fees. German tax payers pay no fees.

Hence, HIS education is free for him, his family and country.

Of course providing education involves some cost - but in this case no cost is directed to the student, his family or tax payers, which was my original point.

 

[Esmeralda]

Esmeralda -

I missed this earlier:

BTW, Saigon, how many people are knocking themselves out to get into Finnish universities? Besides Finns? ; )

There are several thousand foreign students here - it's very much a target destination for students from Spain and Germany, in particular. This is partially because Finland is strong in certain areas (nanotechnologies, engineering, mobile tech) but also because university here is free!!

Okay, point taken. The superiority of Finnish universities is not known world wide, apparently. My point, however, is that many thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of foreign students aspire to study in the US (and they have to pay, btw, pay more, in fact, than US citizens and residents). That so many students around the world aspire to study in the US belies the theory that our schools are inferior. That was my point.

I imagine classes in Finnish universities are taught in Finnish. Do Spanish and German students have to know Finnish before they study in one of your universities?

 

[jtpr312]

Think this is bs.

 

[Sallow]

QW, Spoon -

Try and understand this, because it is actually a little complex.

A student comes to Finland from Germany.

He pays no fees. His parents pay no fees. German tax payers pay no fees.

Hence, HIS education is free for him, his family and country.

Of course providing education involves some cost - but in this case no cost is directed to the student, his family or tax payers, which was my original point.

How, exactly, are these universities financed?

 

[Saigon]

Esmeralda -

I missed this earlier:

BTW, Saigon, how many people are knocking themselves out to get into Finnish universities? Besides Finns? ; )

There are several thousand foreign students here - it's very much a target destination for students from Spain and Germany, in particular. This is partially because Finland is strong in certain areas (nanotechnologies, engineering, mobile tech) but also because university here is free!!

Okay, point taken. The superiority of Finnish universities is not known world wide, apparently. My point, however, is that many thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of foreign students aspire to study in the US (and they have to pay, btw, pay more, in fact, than US citizens and residents). That so many students around the world aspire to study in the US belies the theory that our schools are inferior. That was my point.

I imagine classes in Finnish universities are taught in Finnish. Do Spanish and German students have to know Finnish before they study in one of your universities?

I would never compare the impact of Finnish universties worldwide with those of the US, UK or France, to which students travel from around the world.

We've all heard of MIT, the Sorbonne and Oxford - obviously Aalto is simply not as high profile. On the other hand, for a country of 5 million to have the highest ratio of master's degrees on earth is not to be sneezed at.

Learning Finnish is all but impossible, but given all of our universities operate in 3 languages simultaneously anyway, it isn't a major issue. Foreign students can not apply for classes in Finnish unless they have passed an exam, but they can study most subjects in English or Swedish.

 

[Saigon]

How, exactly, are these universities financed?

They are funded by Finnish tax payers - which is why I don't say that they are entirely free for Finns, but really are for foreign students.