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Just wondering.. how would she react to your post..?
Mine, not so well....
Mine knows, understands, accepts and embraces her role in life. This is the type of relationship she was looking for as much as I was.
abortions. No rights even if the male is married to the female and wants a baby. A women should make it known to men that she is not ready or doesn't' want kids before marriage and a women has a choice to change her mind anytime she wants.
Troll much?
No actually I don't. But apparently you do , what are you doing here is not to add to the debate?
Agreed. Our society needs to protect innocent life. The women you describe need assistance and legal protections during their pregnancy. They can then choose adoption should they and the father approve. Adoption networks which use to exist before the abortionists terminated them, should be reestablished.She found religion and in the next several years she may lose it. Her opinion is just that , her opinion. My opinion is based on equal rights.
Most jews think a baby is a human when they take their first breath, on their own, a cry. How about that. Jesus was a jew , I bet he felt the same way. There is an abortion curse in the OT.
Equal rights? I can't believe you're saying that with a straight face. If you were truly for equal rights, you would be pro-life. You wouldn't be trampling all over the the most basic right of all, the right to life… For ALL human beings.
Again, you're ignoring all of her points that cannot be denied. Teaching kids that sex is completely separate from its life given potential, teaching kids that sex is only about having fun, encouraging them to be sexually active and just throwing a condom at them has not worked. Unless you consider 60 million abortions a success. Not to mention all the other issues that go along with your failed philosophy.
It is you who are wrong on every level. All you talk about are the rights of the fetus. It doesn’t have rights. It doesn’t have opinions. It’s not a person.
There are many more reasons to have sex that have nothing to do with procreation or “fun” and much to do with our good health and well being.
A healthy sex life is important to both physical and mental health and well being. It strengthens the relationship and bonds between a couple.
Look at the abortion statistics. Poor women are getting abortions. Poor women who are in a relationship and already have at least one child.
It’s not the free living party girls, or teenagers. It’s adult women who can’t afford to lose their jobs because they’re pregnant.
The right rejects this image over and over and tries to sell the idea that the abortion rate is fueled by hedonism when in reality is it fueled by Republican policies towards the working poor.
Yes, I have no doubt you see physical violence as "Proper Discipline". But I also know that you're causing more problems than you're solving.
That you don't see this, is part of the problem.
In that we will have to disagree.
abortions. No rights even if the male is married to the female and wants a baby. A women should make it known to men that she is not ready or doesn't' want kids before marriage and a women has a choice to change her mind anytime she wants.
Troll much?
No actually I don't. But apparently you do , what are you doing here is not to add to the debate?
A debate that has been hashed out infinite times.
Simply making a thread with nothing new but the most divisive argument presented is, indeed, trolling.
Damn a human fetus is no different from a cow, pig, chicken or sheep?? Good God that’s dumb.Agreed. Our society needs to protect innocent life. The women you describe need assistance and legal protections during their pregnancy. They can then choose adoption should they and the father approve. Adoption networks which use to exist before the abortionists terminated them, should be reestablished.She found religion and in the next several years she may lose it. Her opinion is just that , her opinion. My opinion is based on equal rights.
Most jews think a baby is a human when they take their first breath, on their own, a cry. How about that. Jesus was a jew , I bet he felt the same way. There is an abortion curse in the OT.
Equal rights? I can't believe you're saying that with a straight face. If you were truly for equal rights, you would be pro-life. You wouldn't be trampling all over the the most basic right of all, the right to life… For ALL human beings.
Again, you're ignoring all of her points that cannot be denied. Teaching kids that sex is completely separate from its life given potential, teaching kids that sex is only about having fun, encouraging them to be sexually active and just throwing a condom at them has not worked. Unless you consider 60 million abortions a success. Not to mention all the other issues that go along with your failed philosophy.
It is you who are wrong on every level. All you talk about are the rights of the fetus. It doesn’t have rights. It doesn’t have opinions. It’s not a person.
There are many more reasons to have sex that have nothing to do with procreation or “fun” and much to do with our good health and well being.
A healthy sex life is important to both physical and mental health and well being. It strengthens the relationship and bonds between a couple.
Look at the abortion statistics. Poor women are getting abortions. Poor women who are in a relationship and already have at least one child.
It’s not the free living party girls, or teenagers. It’s adult women who can’t afford to lose their jobs because they’re pregnant.
The right rejects this image over and over and tries to sell the idea that the abortion rate is fueled by hedonism when in reality is it fueled by Republican policies towards the working poor.
Innocent life like the life of cows, pigs, chickens and sheep? They're killed in the BILLIONS every year.
Agreed. Our society needs to protect innocent life. The women you describe need assistance and legal protections during their pregnancy. They can then choose adoption should they and the father approve. Adoption networks which use to exist before the abortionists terminated them, should be reestablished.She found religion and in the next several years she may lose it. Her opinion is just that , her opinion. My opinion is based on equal rights.
Most jews think a baby is a human when they take their first breath, on their own, a cry. How about that. Jesus was a jew , I bet he felt the same way. There is an abortion curse in the OT.
Equal rights? I can't believe you're saying that with a straight face. If you were truly for equal rights, you would be pro-life. You wouldn't be trampling all over the the most basic right of all, the right to life… For ALL human beings.
Again, you're ignoring all of her points that cannot be denied. Teaching kids that sex is completely separate from its life given potential, teaching kids that sex is only about having fun, encouraging them to be sexually active and just throwing a condom at them has not worked. Unless you consider 60 million abortions a success. Not to mention all the other issues that go along with your failed philosophy.
It is you who are wrong on every level. All you talk about are the rights of the fetus. It doesn’t have rights. It doesn’t have opinions. It’s not a person.
There are many more reasons to have sex that have nothing to do with procreation or “fun” and much to do with our good health and well being.
A healthy sex life is important to both physical and mental health and well being. It strengthens the relationship and bonds between a couple.
Look at the abortion statistics. Poor women are getting abortions. Poor women who are in a relationship and already have at least one child.
It’s not the free living party girls, or teenagers. It’s adult women who can’t afford to lose their jobs because they’re pregnant.
The right rejects this image over and over and tries to sell the idea that the abortion rate is fueled by hedonism when in reality is it fueled by Republican policies towards the working poor.
Innocent life like the life of cows, pigs, chickens and sheep? They're killed in the BILLIONS every year.
Disagree because you're too lazy to be bothered to see the reality?
Isn't that just the conservative way?
abortions. No rights even if the male is married to the female and wants a baby. A women should make it known to men that she is not ready or doesn't' want kids before marriage and a women has a choice to change her mind anytime she wants.
Troll much?
No actually I don't. But apparently you do , what are you doing here is not to add to the debate?
A debate that has been hashed out infinite times.
Simply making a thread with nothing new but the most divisive argument presented is, indeed, trolling.
Damn a human fetus is no different from a cow, pig, chicken or sheep?? Good God that’s dumb.Agreed. Our society needs to protect innocent life. The women you describe need assistance and legal protections during their pregnancy. They can then choose adoption should they and the father approve. Adoption networks which use to exist before the abortionists terminated them, should be reestablished.She found religion and in the next several years she may lose it. Her opinion is just that , her opinion. My opinion is based on equal rights.
Most jews think a baby is a human when they take their first breath, on their own, a cry. How about that. Jesus was a jew , I bet he felt the same way. There is an abortion curse in the OT.
Equal rights? I can't believe you're saying that with a straight face. If you were truly for equal rights, you would be pro-life. You wouldn't be trampling all over the the most basic right of all, the right to life… For ALL human beings.
Again, you're ignoring all of her points that cannot be denied. Teaching kids that sex is completely separate from its life given potential, teaching kids that sex is only about having fun, encouraging them to be sexually active and just throwing a condom at them has not worked. Unless you consider 60 million abortions a success. Not to mention all the other issues that go along with your failed philosophy.
It is you who are wrong on every level. All you talk about are the rights of the fetus. It doesn’t have rights. It doesn’t have opinions. It’s not a person.
There are many more reasons to have sex that have nothing to do with procreation or “fun” and much to do with our good health and well being.
A healthy sex life is important to both physical and mental health and well being. It strengthens the relationship and bonds between a couple.
Look at the abortion statistics. Poor women are getting abortions. Poor women who are in a relationship and already have at least one child.
It’s not the free living party girls, or teenagers. It’s adult women who can’t afford to lose their jobs because they’re pregnant.
The right rejects this image over and over and tries to sell the idea that the abortion rate is fueled by hedonism when in reality is it fueled by Republican policies towards the working poor.
Innocent life like the life of cows, pigs, chickens and sheep? They're killed in the BILLIONS every year.
Disagree because you're too lazy to be bothered to see the reality?
Isn't that just the conservative way?
Both, to some degree. The Conservative way is not to question our Elders and Betters. They are simply passing down the Truth that been passed down for generations.
Damn a human fetus is no different from a cow, pig, chicken or sheep?? Good God that’s dumb.Agreed. Our society needs to protect innocent life. The women you describe need assistance and legal protections during their pregnancy. They can then choose adoption should they and the father approve. Adoption networks which use to exist before the abortionists terminated them, should be reestablished.Equal rights? I can't believe you're saying that with a straight face. If you were truly for equal rights, you would be pro-life. You wouldn't be trampling all over the the most basic right of all, the right to life… For ALL human beings.
Again, you're ignoring all of her points that cannot be denied. Teaching kids that sex is completely separate from its life given potential, teaching kids that sex is only about having fun, encouraging them to be sexually active and just throwing a condom at them has not worked. Unless you consider 60 million abortions a success. Not to mention all the other issues that go along with your failed philosophy.
It is you who are wrong on every level. All you talk about are the rights of the fetus. It doesn’t have rights. It doesn’t have opinions. It’s not a person.
There are many more reasons to have sex that have nothing to do with procreation or “fun” and much to do with our good health and well being.
A healthy sex life is important to both physical and mental health and well being. It strengthens the relationship and bonds between a couple.
Look at the abortion statistics. Poor women are getting abortions. Poor women who are in a relationship and already have at least one child.
It’s not the free living party girls, or teenagers. It’s adult women who can’t afford to lose their jobs because they’re pregnant.
The right rejects this image over and over and tries to sell the idea that the abortion rate is fueled by hedonism when in reality is it fueled by Republican policies towards the working poor.
Innocent life like the life of cows, pigs, chickens and sheep? They're killed in the BILLIONS every year.
Listen to yourself.
You said "Our society needs to protect innocent life" didn't you?
Is a cow innocent or not?
Also, why is the life of one animal more important than the life of another? You've just evoked God. This being the supposed God who have life to all these creatures, and apparently the only one that's important is the human one.
Damn a human fetus is no different from a cow, pig, chicken or sheep?? Good God that’s dumb.Agreed. Our society needs to protect innocent life. The women you describe need assistance and legal protections during their pregnancy. They can then choose adoption should they and the father approve. Adoption networks which use to exist before the abortionists terminated them, should be reestablished.Equal rights? I can't believe you're saying that with a straight face. If you were truly for equal rights, you would be pro-life. You wouldn't be trampling all over the the most basic right of all, the right to life… For ALL human beings.
Again, you're ignoring all of her points that cannot be denied. Teaching kids that sex is completely separate from its life given potential, teaching kids that sex is only about having fun, encouraging them to be sexually active and just throwing a condom at them has not worked. Unless you consider 60 million abortions a success. Not to mention all the other issues that go along with your failed philosophy.
It is you who are wrong on every level. All you talk about are the rights of the fetus. It doesn’t have rights. It doesn’t have opinions. It’s not a person.
There are many more reasons to have sex that have nothing to do with procreation or “fun” and much to do with our good health and well being.
A healthy sex life is important to both physical and mental health and well being. It strengthens the relationship and bonds between a couple.
Look at the abortion statistics. Poor women are getting abortions. Poor women who are in a relationship and already have at least one child.
It’s not the free living party girls, or teenagers. It’s adult women who can’t afford to lose their jobs because they’re pregnant.
The right rejects this image over and over and tries to sell the idea that the abortion rate is fueled by hedonism when in reality is it fueled by Republican policies towards the working poor.
Innocent life like the life of cows, pigs, chickens and sheep? They're killed in the BILLIONS every year.
Listen to yourself.
You said "Our society needs to protect innocent life" didn't you?
Is a cow innocent or not?
Also, why is the life of one animal more important than the life of another? You've just evoked God. This being the supposed God who have life to all these creatures, and apparently the only one that's important is the human one.
]Ah yes, don't question people no matter how wrong they are.
Because it's the only way they can keep face.
Sorry, but that's idiotic. Respect older people, yes, but then respect all people. Let them make decisions even when they're wrong, no.
You have no rights over anyone but yourself, no matter what you think. You may have had rights over underage children when they were younger.
LOL. Thankfully my wife is brighter than you. When I pay all the bills I make all the decisions. She can leave any time she wants to go wander the streets, but as long as she lived under my roof she lived by my rules. Period.
abortions. No rights even if the male is married to the female and wants a baby. A women should make it known to men that she is not ready or doesn't' want kids before marriage and a women has a choice to change her mind anytime she wants.
Troll much?
No actually I don't. But apparently you do , what are you doing here is not to add to the debate?
A debate that has been hashed out infinite times.
Simply making a thread with nothing new but the most divisive argument presented is, indeed, trolling.
Actually no, I said men have no rights when it comes to abortion, I am not declaring if abortion is right or not , I am specifically saying MEN have no rights when it comes to abortion.
]Ah yes, don't question people no matter how wrong they are.
Because it's the only way they can keep face.
Sorry, but that's idiotic. Respect older people, yes, but then respect all people. Let them make decisions even when they're wrong, no.
Traditions exist, and have existed, for thousands of years for a reason. You may not like or agree with them but many of us do. If these ideals and values worked for all those generations there is no need to change them now.
I know you said it works well for both of you , so as I have understood your relationship is a 2 way street. That is ok, its not like your forcing her to stay. This is a debate about men have no rights to the decision of abortions.
The problem is that they did not work for the millions of people who have lived subjugated to them during the course of so many centuries....
Whenever the terms "tradition," "traditional," or "conservative" are used, ask yourself who is getting screwed here? Who is being denied a right, a freedom, an opportunity to earn a privilege? Sometimes the situation even involves people being banned from the basic right to walk down the street, circulate in society, travel freely, enter into a marriage with a partner of one's choosing (this involves intimate sexual relations, you know), ditch a bad marriage, control one's own material assets.
You cannot just write off the experiences of millions of people and then just declare that everything is peachy.
