Men in women's bathrooms

[Ame®icano]

Um....you're the one who can't accept science. You're under the bizarre impression that having an "X" chromosome and a "Y" chromosome doesn't make you a man. It makes you a "birth defect". You've completely denied science. Oh...and lets not forget you have completely denied the English language over and over and over when you claim that gender and sex are not the same despite the fact that I've published the official definition of the word gender which included "synonyms: sex"

No, I have acknowledged the biological "MALE" will not change. See, unlike you I understand there is more to it then just biological sex.
That's why they call it a "Gender Reassignment Surgery" not a sex change anymore. You cannot CHANGE sex. You can transition your gender.

You posted one segment of one dictionary.

I posted refuting sources.

So, you choose ignorance, because you are afraid.

Funny you said it, but actually, it's still called SRS or Sex Reassignment Surgery. Hos it that possible if you cannot change sex? You see, some names are meant to sound big and to fool people in believing that impossible is possible. Take ACA or Affordable Care Act, or Jobs bill that don't produce jobs (plus there are 46 jobs bills stuck in the Senate as of today). OK, you got the point, I hope.

So, you're only half right. You cannot change sex. And you cannot change gender.

However... to change the gender identity, all you need is a feelings. And pen. And a phone.

 

[Ame®icano]

You talking about Kim Davis? She was not "jailed for her beliefs". Kim Davis was jailed for breaking civil law. Kim Davis tried to force her personal religious belief on her secular, public, office.

Actually, she used public office to force her personal religious beliefs on others.
Without power of the office she couldn't do shit.

Pretty much the same as what LGBTQ are doing.

 

[Ame®icano]

Well for starters...you're stupid for supporting the medical community violating their "do no harm" first oath and butchering these people with unnecessary surgeries and then filling them with tons of hormones that their body could not otherwise create.

And here's the deal my dear - if the transgender community really looked like this - why the need for the laws forcing people to accept them in the wrong restroom or facility? I mean - what woman on earth would be alarmed if "Miss California 2013" (as the picture states - which is hilarious because it proves you are LYING as usual as I'm fairly certain no man has ever won a Miss America pageant) walked into their restroom?

But the reality is - they don't look like that. At all. Just look at Bruce Jenner. Putting lipstick and a dress on a man doesn't make him look like any less of a man. It just makes him look like a creepy serial killer. Why do you insist on a false narrative? If these people actually looked that way - there would be no controversy and your side would be pushing for insane laws.

In my opinion, most of transgender women can't pass as a women. And when I say most, I mean 80 or 90 percent. On the other hand, and to be honest, at least 20 percent of today's biological women can't pass as a women neither.

That trans man (Buck Angel) is still a woman. At least in her porno flicks she''s taking it six ways from sunday from pre-op trans women and it looks disgusting. Side thought, I wonder if that would be called straight sex?

I admit, I can't imagine what trans people are going thru, emotionally. But just because someone demands something because they feel that way, it doesn't make it right. It doesn't help neither that they don't budge on their demands, while screaming how we don't want to compromise.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Only Caitlyn is transgendered. The others appear to be cross dressers (one might be a bad drag queen). Not the same thing.

Yes. Exactly the same thing. Some may be more extreme than others; some may be suffering from greater degrees of mental illness and others, but aside from differences in degree, they are all exactly the same thing.

You do realize, don't you, that as of the most recent information that has been made publicly known, “Caitlin” still has h'orsh'/it's fully-functioning and intact “boy parts”?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

If someone is post operative, do you believe them to be "biologically" their pre or post operative gender?

Genetically, maybe. But they lack much of the defining biological bits.

The characteristics of biological sex are largely tied to hormones.

Sex is defined by one's reproductive role, not one's external appearance, or hormones.

Assuming no injuries or defects, men produce sperm cells, and are equipped with parts to deposit these in a woman; and woman produce egg cells, and are equipped to receive sperm from men, and to allow those sperm to combine with their egg cells to produce new human beings.

Under any technology that now exists, or can reasonably be expected to exist any time in the foreseeable future, there is no amount of hormone treatment, surgery, other alteration that will turn a man into a woman, and allow h'orsh'/it to fulfill a woman's reproductive role. The best that can be done is to turn a man into a very poor, nonfunctional, cosmetic mockery of a woman.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Tell me Sea - do you believe these people have the right to walk into a public bathroom, strip down naked so that my precious 5 year old daughter unexpectedly has a dick in her face when she walks out of a stall? And don't tell me "it won't happen" because it already has. I get that people like Renae wouldn't do that.

What makes you so sure of that. Someone who is as obviously f•••ed up in the head as h'orsh'/it is, there's no telling what h'orsh'/it might do.

H'orsh'/it has openly admitted that h'orsh'/it carries a gun, and is prepared to use it to defend his “right” to sexually abuse girls and women.

 

[Yarddog]

one does need to realize that gender neutral bathrooms will allow dads to go in with daughters.....i am so sick of this protecting your kids bullshit when what greater protection do you have...with the ability to accompany your child in the bathroom? yall are so full of homophobia you dont consider anything else...

Good point, I never let my little kid into a bathroom by himself, unless I check it out first.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The Fruit Loops on the Left have finally pushed too far... I hope this costs them dearly at the polls in November.

Amen!

 

[Bill Angel]

People should go where they feel most comfortable ;-)

 

[Boss]

In 2011, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit became the first federal court to recognize that discrimination on the basis of transgender identity violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. This ruling reflected the court's belief that sex discrimination encompasses discrimination on the basis of gender identity or expression.

Sorry but lower court rulings don't mean something is in the Constitution.

The burden would be on you to prove being transgender is unconstitutional. My beard is not mentioned in the constitution either, so do you think it's unconstitutional too?

You can't claim you have rights as a protected class under the constitution then demand I show you that your "protected class" is unconstitutional. I never claimed transgender was unconstitutional. I can see how a court could rule that discrimination against a transgender under certain circumstances is a violation of the equal protection clause. That doesn't mean transgender people are a protected class in all circumstances.

 

[Pop23]

People should go where they feel most comfortable ;-)View attachment 72478

Pedophiles agree

 

[Seawytch]

These are real transgendered people.

10 Handsome Men (Who Were Born Female) (transgender female to male, female to male transformation) - ODDEE

You want all of them going into the women's room with your "wives and daughters "?

No those are not Sea. If those really were women, the only reason they look like that is because someone in the medical community violated every oath they ever took and not only butchered those people with a knife, but also prescribed medications they did not need simply to fulfill a sexually deviant behavior.

So again - those are either fake pictures or those are the result of medical personnel violating their oath. Either way, you're trying to create a problem that doesn't really exist.

Those are real female to male transgendered. What you think of them does not change the reality of them.

Do you want them going into the women's restroom with your "wives and daughters"? A simple yes or no will suffice.

 

[Mac1958]

I know this is going to be a crazy question, but here goes.

These folks didn't just spring up out of nowhere last month.

What did they do before this became such a big deal? And was there some kind of triggering event that caused all this drama?

Sorry for the intellectual curiosity, I realize it's not cool here, but I would like to know.
.

 

[Pop23]

These are real transgendered people.

10 Handsome Men (Who Were Born Female) (transgender female to male, female to male transformation) - ODDEE

You want all of them going into the women's room with your "wives and daughters "?

No those are not Sea. If those really were women, the only reason they look like that is because someone in the medical community violated every oath they ever took and not only butchered those people with a knife, but also prescribed medications they did not need simply to fulfill a sexually deviant behavior.

So again - those are either fake pictures or those are the result of medical personnel violating their oath. Either way, you're trying to create a problem that doesn't really exist.

Those are real female to male transgendered. What you think of them does not change the reality of them.

Do you want them going into the women's restroom with your "wives and daughters"? A simple yes or no will suffice.

One word answers?

Man

Woman

See how easy that was

Men have dick, women do not

 

[Seawytch]

Do you want these genetically female people in the women's restroom with your little girl?

Nonsensical as always. First of all, not one of those are biologically female. Idiot liberals just keep going out and grabbing pictures of men and posting them as women.

Second, none of this would be an issue if they actually did look like that because nobody would know that those guys above were actually "women". The whole reason idiot liberals need this law is because it is painfully obvious when a man is dressed up like a woman and a woman is dressed up like a man. In the liberal infinite stupidity, they fail to realize they defeat their own argument when they claim legislation is needed. If the people above were actually women and went into the men's room, nobody would be any wiser and no legislation would be needed.

Third, in the very rare (and I mean very) case where it really is hard to discern the biological sex of somebody, it is only because the medical community broke their oath/code of "do no harm" and not only butchered a patient by cutting of some body parts and adding others when their health did not require it, and then compounding it with artificial hormones which were also not necessary for the health of the patient (and in fact does more harm than good). If we prevented the medical community from breaking their oath, then again none of this would be an issue.

Here chief - is a a real picture of a transgender. You mean to tell me you can't tell that there are actually burly men under these dresses?!? Sorry chief - this is reality:

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Only Caitlyn is transgendered. The others appear to be cross dressers (one might be a bad drag queen). Not the same thing.

Sea - even if that were true (and it's not), what difference does it make? The deplorable laws being pushed by the left doesn't discriminate against "cross-dressers". It allows anyone who wants to engage in disturbing behavior to do so.

Tell me Sea - do you believe these people have the right to walk into a public bathroom, strip down naked so that my precious 5 year old daughter unexpectedly has a dick in her face when she walks out of a stall? And don't tell me "it won't happen" because it already has. I get that people like Renae wouldn't do that. I totally get it. People like him are respectful. But not everybody is like that and there are a ton of sexual predators out there cashing in on this liberal idiocy already.

Anybody who would put the sexual needs of an adult before the basic rights of a child is a dirt bag. So I defy you to tell us that you believe that sexual deviants "rights" trumps my daughters or that my daughter should be subjected to that sickness.

Then prove to me it's not true. Show me absolute proof that the pictures you provided were of transgendered people. We know Caitlyn is, but the other two do not appear to be. Provide definitive proof that they ARE transgendered and not drag queens or cross dressers, which are not tat all the same thing as transgendered people.

Trans people have been using the restrooms associated with the gender of their choice for decades and the scenario you described has not happened. More children have been molested by Republican members of congress than by trans people who are using restrooms to pee.

 

[Seawytch]

I know this is going to be a crazy question, but here goes.

These folks didn't just spring up out of nowhere last month.

What did they do before this became such a big deal? And was there some kind of triggering event that caused all this drama?

Sorry for the intellectual curiosity, I realize it's not cool here, but I would like to know.
.

No, they didn't just appear and they peed in the bathroom associated with the gender they were transitioning to...and still do.

The "triggering event" was gays getting their equal rights. It caused the RWNJs to go nut jobbbier.

 

[Seawytch]

Right. I'm stupid because I think this person should be able to use the men's room

And this person should be able to use the women's restroom...

You go with that.

What's the point exactly?

The point is that you and the rest of the pee police would make this person use the women's restroom:

And this individual use the men's room.

 

[P@triot]

Do you want these genetically female people in the women's restroom with your little girl?

Nonsensical as always. First of all, not one of those are biologically female. Idiot liberals just keep going out and grabbing pictures of men and posting them as women.

Second, none of this would be an issue if they actually did look like that because nobody would know that those guys above were actually "women". The whole reason idiot liberals need this law is because it is painfully obvious when a man is dressed up like a woman and a woman is dressed up like a man. In the liberal infinite stupidity, they fail to realize they defeat their own argument when they claim legislation is needed. If the people above were actually women and went into the men's room, nobody would be any wiser and no legislation would be needed.

Third, in the very rare (and I mean very) case where it really is hard to discern the biological sex of somebody, it is only because the medical community broke their oath/code of "do no harm" and not only butchered a patient by cutting of some body parts and adding others when their health did not require it, and then compounding it with artificial hormones which were also not necessary for the health of the patient (and in fact does more harm than good). If we prevented the medical community from breaking their oath, then again none of this would be an issue.

Here chief - is a a real picture of a transgender. You mean to tell me you can't tell that there are actually burly men under these dresses?!? Sorry chief - this is reality:

View attachment 72437 View attachment 72438 View attachment 72439

Only Caitlyn is transgendered. The others appear to be cross dressers (one might be a bad drag queen). Not the same thing.

Sea - even if that were true (and it's not), what difference does it make? The deplorable laws being pushed by the left doesn't discriminate against "cross-dressers". It allows anyone who wants to engage in disturbing behavior to do so.

Tell me Sea - do you believe these people have the right to walk into a public bathroom, strip down naked so that my precious 5 year old daughter unexpectedly has a dick in her face when she walks out of a stall? And don't tell me "it won't happen" because it already has. I get that people like Renae wouldn't do that. I totally get it. People like him are respectful. But not everybody is like that and there are a ton of sexual predators out there cashing in on this liberal idiocy already.

Anybody who would put the sexual needs of an adult before the basic rights of a child is a dirt bag. So I defy you to tell us that you believe that sexual deviants "rights" trumps my daughters or that my daughter should be subjected to that sickness.

Then prove to me it's not true. Show me absolute proof that the pictures you provided were of transgendered people. We know Caitlyn is, but the other two do not appear to be. Provide definitive proof that they ARE transgendered and not drag queens or cross dressers, which are not tat all the same thing as transgendered people.

Trans people have been using the restrooms associated with the gender of their choice for decades and the scenario you described has not happened. More children have been molested by Republican members of congress than by trans people who are using restrooms to pee.

I'm not sure I can follow your logic here. You are completely and totally unable to "prove to me" that the people you posted were not born men.

The fact is - you know Bruce Jenner is "transgender" and nobody in their right mind would mistake him for a woman no matter how much makeup he puts in or how high his heels are.

 

[Seawytch]

Only Caitlyn is transgendered. The others appear to be cross dressers (one might be a bad drag queen). Not the same thing.

Yes. Exactly the same thing. Some may be more extreme than others; some may be suffering from greater degrees of mental illness and others, but aside from differences in degree, they are all exactly the same thing.

No, not even remotely the same thing.

Cross-dresser
While anyone may wear clothes associated with a different sex, the term cross-dresser is typically used to refer to heterosexual men who occasionally wear clothes, makeup, and accessories culturally associated with women. This activity is a form of gender expression, and not done for entertainment purposes. Cross-dressers do not wish to permanently change their sex or live full-time as women. Replaces the term "transvestite."

PLEASE NOTE: Transgender women are not cross-dressers or drag queens. Drag queens are men, typically gay men, who dress like women for the purpose of entertainment. Be aware of the differences between transgender women, cross-dressers, and drag queens. Use the term preferred by the individual. Do not use the word "transvestite" at all, unless someone specifically self-identifies that way.
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You do realize, don't you, that as of the most recent information that has been made publicly known, “Caitlin” still has h'orsh'/it's fully-functioning and intact “boy parts”?

You do realize that trans people have to live as the gender they are reassigning to for one year before the surgery, rigtht? Where shall they pee while they must dress and function in public as the gender they are transitioning to?

 

[Seawytch]

Do you want these genetically female people in the women's restroom with your little girl?

Nonsensical as always. First of all, not one of those are biologically female. Idiot liberals just keep going out and grabbing pictures of men and posting them as women.

Second, none of this would be an issue if they actually did look like that because nobody would know that those guys above were actually "women". The whole reason idiot liberals need this law is because it is painfully obvious when a man is dressed up like a woman and a woman is dressed up like a man. In the liberal infinite stupidity, they fail to realize they defeat their own argument when they claim legislation is needed. If the people above were actually women and went into the men's room, nobody would be any wiser and no legislation would be needed.

Third, in the very rare (and I mean very) case where it really is hard to discern the biological sex of somebody, it is only because the medical community broke their oath/code of "do no harm" and not only butchered a patient by cutting of some body parts and adding others when their health did not require it, and then compounding it with artificial hormones which were also not necessary for the health of the patient (and in fact does more harm than good). If we prevented the medical community from breaking their oath, then again none of this would be an issue.

Here chief - is a a real picture of a transgender. You mean to tell me you can't tell that there are actually burly men under these dresses?!? Sorry chief - this is reality:

View attachment 72437 View attachment 72438 View attachment 72439

Only Caitlyn is transgendered. The others appear to be cross dressers (one might be a bad drag queen). Not the same thing.

Sea - even if that were true (and it's not), what difference does it make? The deplorable laws being pushed by the left doesn't discriminate against "cross-dressers". It allows anyone who wants to engage in disturbing behavior to do so.

Tell me Sea - do you believe these people have the right to walk into a public bathroom, strip down naked so that my precious 5 year old daughter unexpectedly has a dick in her face when she walks out of a stall? And don't tell me "it won't happen" because it already has. I get that people like Renae wouldn't do that. I totally get it. People like him are respectful. But not everybody is like that and there are a ton of sexual predators out there cashing in on this liberal idiocy already.

Anybody who would put the sexual needs of an adult before the basic rights of a child is a dirt bag. So I defy you to tell us that you believe that sexual deviants "rights" trumps my daughters or that my daughter should be subjected to that sickness.

Then prove to me it's not true. Show me absolute proof that the pictures you provided were of transgendered people. We know Caitlyn is, but the other two do not appear to be. Provide definitive proof that they ARE transgendered and not drag queens or cross dressers, which are not tat all the same thing as transgendered people.

Trans people have been using the restrooms associated with the gender of their choice for decades and the scenario you described has not happened. More children have been molested by Republican members of congress than by trans people who are using restrooms to pee.

I'm not sure I can follow your logic here. You are completely and totally unable to "prove to me" that the people you posted were not born men.

Uh, except they all have exposes about them telling you that they were born women. One even detailed his reassignment in photographs. They were actual trans people. You just googled some pictures and do not know if any of those pictured were transgendered. Knowing actual transgendered people, I would have to say they were not and that one was, for sure, a cross dresser. The only one we KNOW to be transgendered is Caitlyn.

The fact is - you know Bruce Jenner is "transgender" and nobody in their right mind would mistake him for a woman no matter how much makeup he puts in or how high his heels are.

Bovine feces. If she wasn't famous, you'd even think she was attractive.