Men in women's bathrooms

[sealybobo]

AFA has been listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as of November 2010 for the "propagation of known falsehoods" and the use of "demonizing propaganda" against LGBT people.[20]

It's always amusing when someone cites the Southern Poverty Law Center denouncing some other organization as a “hate group” and accusing another organization of “propagation of known falsehoods” and the use of “demonizing propaganda”. The irony and hypocrisy seems to be completely lost on such fools.

The Southern Poverty Law Center is an American nonprofit legal advocacy organization specializing in civil rights and public interest litigation. It is noted for its legal victories against white supremacist groups, its legal representation for victims of hate groups, its classification of militia movement and other extremist organizations, and its educational programs that promote tolerance

so what happened to 00001% of the population that we owe it anything? Still no evidence of a problem.

I know. So why you making it a problem? If a fake tranny molests your wife or daughter, call the cops.

 

[gtopa1]

The American Family Association (AFA) is a non-profit organization based in the United States that promotes fundamentalist Christian values.It opposes same-sex marriage,pornography, and abortion. It also takes a position on a variety of other public policy goals and has lobbied against the Employee Free Choice Act.

The AFA defined itself as "a Christian organization promoting the biblical ethic of decency in American society with primary emphasis on television and other media," later switching their stated emphasis to "moral issues that impact the family." It engages in activism efforts, including boycotts,buycotts, action alert emails, publications on the AFA's web sites or in the AFA Journal, broadcasts on American Family Radio, and lobbying. The AFA owns 200 American Family Radio stations in 33 states, seven affiliate stations in seven states, and one affiliate TV station KAZQ TV) in New Mexico.

AFA has been listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as of November 2010 for the "propagation of known falsehoods" and the use of "demonizing propaganda" against LGBT people.[20]

How does one sign up to the AFA if you live in Oz??

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Let me tell ya'll how this is going to go down. A bunch of backwards, mostly southern, states are going to pass bigoted, anti gay and anti trans laws. They will suffer economic backlash they can ill afford from people protesting these Jim Crow-like laws and from the legal challenges that will result.

And the result of the legal challenges will be that you will lose...and even in the unlikely event that you win a case or two, public opinion will be overwhelmingly against the bigots and haters in just a few short years and these laws will be overturned.

Takes a really freaky pervert to want to follow a 6 year old girl into the bathroom.
Congradulations.

You're right it does. Of course, Transphobic laws don't stop "freaky perverts" from going into bathrooms, it just makes life more unsafe for trans people.

safe from what? you still haven't provided any evidence to support they are in danger. More lying libturd posting habits.

Oh; the "women are savages" crap again!! pathetic!

Greg

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

so dude, can you answer the question on the table right now? Show a link to a story about someone being a bigot to a trans person. Show one.

In the minds of these degraded scumbags, merely objecting to the presence of a man in the women's restroom constitutes “being a bigot to a trans person”.

No its passing laws to prevent folks from peeing that sucks

 

[Seawytch]

where? put up a link where trans genders are getting assaulted.

Transgenders who have had sex change operations are using the bathroom of their new gender obviously.

Transgenders who have not had sex change operations obviously are a lot safer walking into a mens room than a ladie's room. No one's saying, hey a guy in the mens room but I can see with my inner eye he's a WOMAN! Let's beat him up!

Guys walking into a ladies room on the other hand that could totally happen to.

Skylar makes his shit up as he goes. What he said doesn't even make sense

Obviously? That's not what most of your fellow transphobic posters are saying. They want chromosome tests prior to peeing.

Texas Bill Would Jail Those Whose Chromosomes Don't Match the Restroom They're Using | Advocate.com

And some states want to turn students into the pecker checking police if they don't use the one identified with their gender AT BIRTH

Kansas Bill Would Let Students Sue Over Transgender Bathroom Use

Just another GOP solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

Trans people aren't predators and aren't a danger to children.

You just can't address my questions, can you? Fine, I'm used to it. Just don't whine when I decline to chase links for you

Your "questions" have been addressed. You can't face facts.

No, how you do it is you read my question and say wow, I don't want to answer that one. Here's what I want you to have asked, I'll answer that instead. That answers his question ...

For one thing, there wasn't a single question in your post that I responded to. You made an inaccurate statement "Transgenders who have had sex change operations are using the bathroom of their new gender obviously."

and I pointed out that transphobes like you are passing and trying to pass laws that would require someone to use the restroom of the gender they were at birth, regardless of their pre or post operative status.

You didn't ask anything, just said something inaccurate.

 

[Seawytch]

Let me tell ya'll how this is going to go down. A bunch of backwards, mostly southern, states are going to pass bigoted, anti gay and anti trans laws. They will suffer economic backlash they can ill afford from people protesting these Jim Crow-like laws and from the legal challenges that will result.

And the result of the legal challenges will be that you will lose...and even in the unlikely event that you win a case or two, public opinion will be overwhelmingly against the bigots and haters in just a few short years and these laws will be overturned.

Takes a really freaky pervert to want to follow a 6 year old girl into the bathroom.
Congradulations.

You're right it does. Of course, Transphobic laws don't stop "freaky perverts" from going into bathrooms, it just makes life more unsafe for trans people.

safe from what? you still haven't provided any evidence to support they are in danger. More lying libturd posting habits.

That's ironic...not a single incident of a trans person doing anything other that peeing in a public restroom (despite laws being on the books over a decade in some places) and you demand proof that trans people are in danger from transphobes?


Transgender People Are Harassed and Assaulted in Public Bathrooms, Survey Says | The Snitch | San Francisco | San Francisco News and Events | SF Weekly

The survey, published in the Journal of Public Management and Social Policy, found that 70 percent of responders have been denied entrance, were harassed or assaulted when attempting to use a public restroom of their identifying gender.

did you read that? Washington DC and that's it. and If you read it carefully it states using the restroom of their identifying gender. Not their gender, so some guy doesn't want a trans in the bathroom with their kids. Same argument that is going on now.

BTW, that was as weak as anything ever posted in here. So you have no evidence to support bigot claims. I thought not. Thanks for playing though, you failed hard.

You made a claim that people weren't harassed. They are. Anti Trans laws protect no one.

 

[gtopa1]

AFA has been listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as of November 2010 for the "propagation of known falsehoods" and the use of "demonizing propaganda" against LGBT people.[20]

It's always amusing when someone cites the Southern Poverty Law Center denouncing some other organization as a “hate group” and accusing another organization of “propagation of known falsehoods” and the use of “demonizing propaganda”. The irony and hypocrisy seems to be completely lost on such fools.

The Southern Poverty Law Center is an American nonprofit legal advocacy organization specializing in civil rights and public interest litigation. It is noted for its legal victories against white supremacist groups, its legal representation for victims of hate groups, its classification of militia movement and other extremist organizations, and its educational programs that promote tolerance

They should do their homework!!

Here are 5 times "transgender" men abused women and children by exploiting such facilities:

1. A Seattle man, citing transgender bathrooms laws, was able to gain access to a women’s locker-room at a public recreational center while little girls were changing for swim practice.

In February, The Daily Wire reported that a Seattle man who walked into the women’s locker-room—on two occasions—and began undressing, cited the “new state rule that allows people to choose a bathroom based on gender identity.” You know, those laws the ingenious left has been pushing because of “inclusiveness.”

“It was a busy time at Evans Pool around 5:30 p.m. Monday February 8,” reports KING5 News. “The pool was open for lap swim. According to Seattle Parks and Recreation, a man wearing board shorts entered the women's locker room and took off his shirt. Women alerted staff, who told the man to leave, but he said ‘the law has changed and I have a right to be here.’”

Subsequent to this new rule, no one called the police on this man who reportedly came back a second time when young girls were changing into their swimsuits for swim practice.

2. A Toronto man claiming to be transgender was arrested and sentenced to jail for sexually assaulting several women in a women’s shelter after he gained access to the shelter and its shower facilitates as "Jessica."

As Life Site notes, “A biological man claiming to be ‘transgender’ so as to gain access to and prey on women at two Toronto shelters was jailed ‘indefinitely’” in early March.

Christopher Hambrook, 37, using the name “Jessica,” was able to gain access to Toronto women’s shelters.

“Her tights had been pulled down past her bottom and her bathing suit had been pulled to the side,” reads a court document of one of the incidents. “She yelled at the accused, demanding to know what he was doing. He simply covered his face with his hands, said ‘Oops!’ and started giggling.”

Per Life Site:

Court also heard evidence of Hambrook terrorizing a deaf woman living in the shelter. “The accused grabbed the complainant’s hand and forcibly placed it on his crotch area while his penis was erect,” court heard.

The same deaf women reported that Hambrook would peer at her through a gap between the door and its frame while she showered.


3. A Virginia man was caught and arrested for peeping on and filming two women and a 5-year-old child in a women’s restroom after receiving entry by dressing in drag.

“Richard Rodriguez, 30, filmed a woman in a bathroom stall at the Potomac Mills Mall, Prince William County Police said,” reported NBC Washington. His victim was a 35-year-old woman who was in a bathroom stall when “she saw a bag moved toward her under the stall divider.” According to police, Rodriguez had been filming her.

Apparently, when the victim rushed out of the stall to confront the man, he had already moved to another woman just one stall over. “The victim alerted the woman and then contacted mall security of the shopping center on 2700 block of Potomac Mills Circle in Woodbridge, Virginia,” noted NBC Washington.

Reports suspect that this was not Rodriguez’s first time peeping on women by dressing himself up as woman to enter a restroom; disturbingly, he likely spied on a 53-year-old woman in May of 2015 and a 35-year-old and her 5-year-old daughter back in October.

“Rodriguez, of Fredericksburg, was charged with three counts of unlawful filming of a non-consenting person and three counts of peeping,” reported NBC Washington.

4. A Los Angeles man dressed in drag, entered a Macy’s department store bathroom and videotaped women under bathroom stalls.

As The Daily Wirereported in late March, charges were filed against Jason Pomare, 33, for allegedly disguising himself as a woman, sneaking in to the women’s restroom at a Macy’s department store and secretly videotaping hours of footage of women in bathroom stalls.

Pomare reportedly disguised himself with a wig and fake breasts; he kept his video camera with him in a small purse.

The suspect "was charged Tuesday with six counts of unlawful use of a concealed camera for purposes of sexual gratification. After his arrest, investigators said a video camera found in his purse had 'hours' of video of women using the restroom inside the store," reports NBC4 News.

5. Two male students were caught at the University of Toronto exploiting “gender-neutral” facilities to peep on women in the shower with their cellphone cameras.

As The Daily Wire’s Pardes Seleh reported in October, The University of Toronto had to change their gender-neutral bathrooms back to bathrooms separated based on biology “after two separate incidents of ‘voyeurism’ were reported on campus September 15 and 19. Male students within the University’s Whitney Hall student residence were caught holding their cellphones over female students’ shower stalls and filming them as they showered.”

The SPLC is a trash left wing shitorg!!

Greg

 

[Seawytch]

Let me tell ya'll how this is going to go down. A bunch of backwards, mostly southern, states are going to pass bigoted, anti gay and anti trans laws. They will suffer economic backlash they can ill afford from people protesting these Jim Crow-like laws and from the legal challenges that will result.

And the result of the legal challenges will be that you will lose...and even in the unlikely event that you win a case or two, public opinion will be overwhelmingly against the bigots and haters in just a few short years and these laws will be overturned.

Takes a really freaky pervert to want to follow a 6 year old girl into the bathroom.
Congradulations.

You're right it does. Of course, Transphobic laws don't stop "freaky perverts" from going into bathrooms, it just makes life more unsafe for trans people.

safe from what? you still haven't provided any evidence to support they are in danger. More lying libturd posting habits.

Oh; the "women are savages" crap again!! pathetic!

Greg

What?

Cops: DJ In Priest Garb Assaults Transgender

 

[jc456]

Fox’s Chris Wallace Debunks Anti-LGBT “Bathroom Predator” Myth Pushed By Fox News

nope for anything, eva. So why the need to change bathrooms for men with a penis?

 

[jc456]

AFA has been listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as of November 2010 for the "propagation of known falsehoods" and the use of "demonizing propaganda" against LGBT people.[20]

It's always amusing when someone cites the Southern Poverty Law Center denouncing some other organization as a “hate group” and accusing another organization of “propagation of known falsehoods” and the use of “demonizing propaganda”. The irony and hypocrisy seems to be completely lost on such fools.

The Southern Poverty Law Center is an American nonprofit legal advocacy organization specializing in civil rights and public interest litigation. It is noted for its legal victories against white supremacist groups, its legal representation for victims of hate groups, its classification of militia movement and other extremist organizations, and its educational programs that promote tolerance

so what happened to 00001% of the population that we owe it anything? Still no evidence of a problem.

I know. So why you making it a problem? If a fake tranny molests your wife or daughter, call the cops.

always will, no need to offer up bait. So tell us why they need to use the other gender bathroom if they were never ever violated, have locks on all of the doors and no one ever threatened them? please pray tell.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Did I say that you fucking dip? This is why there's no talking to stupid republicans. I say one thing and all you hear is rush Limbaugh talking. You're a fucking fat pussy

"A woman with a penis can use the woman's bathroom."

You're so stupid you don't even know what you type.

Not what I said 24 minutes ago.

Focus fool! Whens the last time you saw a man dressed as a woman in a public restroom besides Halloween. If the answer is never and you're 60 then trannys have been using the ladies room for 60 years. You were just too stupid to figure it out.

We, as a society create law when it becomes obvious that some refuse to respect the rights of others

This is nothing new no matter how dramatic you want to make it.

You will lose this one too. Just my gut. It hasn't been a problem all the sudden you're making an issue of this?

Nope, because if you grant this right to pre op trans, you must grant entry to all places frequented only by women.

Since a trans male is simply a male with man made "options", they are simalarily situated to all males.

Anywhere they are allowed, so must all males.

No judge in the country in the world is going to touch the ruling.

If I were the LBGTQ, I'd be backing off this one.

It's a big time loser.

After 166 pages and over 1,500 posts I think it's time to stop the liberal games and put this issue to rest.

One does not get to decide how they "identify" in life. If you are born white (ahem Rachel Dolezal) you do not get declare yourself black. Science proves unequivocally that your genetics decide your race - not you mental illness.

If you are born a man (ahem Bruce Jenner) you do not get declare yourself a woman. Science proves unequivocally that your chromosomes decide your gender - not you mental illness.

If you are born German (ahem Elizabeth Warren) you do not get declare yourself Native American. Science proves unequivocally that your DNA decide your ethnicity - not you mental illness.

Only the disturbed modern-day liberal could claim that science and medical facts are irrelevant and that only a person's mental illness dictates their race, gender, etc. (but then again, we shouldn't be surprised as they've been disregarding science and data for over a decade now when it comes to the farce known as "Global Warming").

But....what makes it worse is that they don't apply their absurdity consistently. I "identify" as President of the United States and as Kiera Knightley's husband, but not one single hateful, bigoted liberal will support my access to the Oval Office or Kiera's orifices.

Which simply proves that they are in the wrong. If you can't apply your "logic" consistently and if you have to resort to discrimination, then you are clearly in the wrong. This discussion is flat out over and everybody knows it. Science, medical data, facts, ration, reason, and logic trump mental illness and fantasy.

OK then.

We can say the science is settled.

 

[jc456]

so dude, can you answer the question on the table right now? Show a link to a story about someone being a bigot to a trans person. Show one.

In the minds of these degraded scumbags, merely objecting to the presence of a man in the women's restroom constitutes “being a bigot to a trans person”.

No its passing laws to prevent folks from peeing that sucks

who did that?

 

[jc456]

Takes a really freaky pervert to want to follow a 6 year old girl into the bathroom.
Congradulations.

You're right it does. Of course, Transphobic laws don't stop "freaky perverts" from going into bathrooms, it just makes life more unsafe for trans people.

safe from what? you still haven't provided any evidence to support they are in danger. More lying libturd posting habits.

That's ironic...not a single incident of a trans person doing anything other that peeing in a public restroom (despite laws being on the books over a decade in some places) and you demand proof that trans people are in danger from transphobes?


Transgender People Are Harassed and Assaulted in Public Bathrooms, Survey Says | The Snitch | San Francisco | San Francisco News and Events | SF Weekly

The survey, published in the Journal of Public Management and Social Policy, found that 70 percent of responders have been denied entrance, were harassed or assaulted when attempting to use a public restroom of their identifying gender.

did you read that? Washington DC and that's it. and If you read it carefully it states using the restroom of their identifying gender. Not their gender, so some guy doesn't want a trans in the bathroom with their kids. Same argument that is going on now.

BTW, that was as weak as anything ever posted in here. So you have no evidence to support bigot claims. I thought not. Thanks for playing though, you failed hard.

You made a claim that people weren't harassed. They are. Anti Trans laws protect no one.

you never proved they were, so I have to conclude that that never happened. So why do we need laws to let men pee in the little girls room again?

 

[jc456]

Transgenders who have had sex change operations are using the bathroom of their new gender obviously.

Transgenders who have not had sex change operations obviously are a lot safer walking into a mens room than a ladie's room. No one's saying, hey a guy in the mens room but I can see with my inner eye he's a WOMAN! Let's beat him up!

Guys walking into a ladies room on the other hand that could totally happen to.

Skylar makes his shit up as he goes. What he said doesn't even make sense

Obviously? That's not what most of your fellow transphobic posters are saying. They want chromosome tests prior to peeing.

Texas Bill Would Jail Those Whose Chromosomes Don't Match the Restroom They're Using | Advocate.com

And some states want to turn students into the pecker checking police if they don't use the one identified with their gender AT BIRTH

Kansas Bill Would Let Students Sue Over Transgender Bathroom Use

Just another GOP solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

Trans people aren't predators and aren't a danger to children.

You just can't address my questions, can you? Fine, I'm used to it. Just don't whine when I decline to chase links for you

Your "questions" have been addressed. You can't face facts.

No, how you do it is you read my question and say wow, I don't want to answer that one. Here's what I want you to have asked, I'll answer that instead. That answers his question ...

For one thing, there wasn't a single question in your post that I responded to. You made an inaccurate statement "Transgenders who have had sex change operations are using the bathroom of their new gender obviously."

and I pointed out that transphobes like you are passing and trying to pass laws that would require someone to use the restroom of the gender they were at birth, regardless of their pre or post operative status.

You didn't ask anything, just said something inaccurate.

and again, you have never ever answered why men need to use little girls restroom?

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[P@triot]

so dude, can you answer the question on the table right now? Show a link to a story about someone being a bigot to a trans person. Show one.

In the minds of these degraded scumbags, merely objecting to the presence of a man in the women's restroom constitutes “being a bigot to a trans person”.

Well duh! They've been doing that since the turn of the century. They've been so thoroughly defeated in policy, ideas, debates, etc. that all they can do at this point is scream "racist" any time someone doesn't agree with their insanity.

 

[jc456]

Let me tell ya'll how this is going to go down. A bunch of backwards, mostly southern, states are going to pass bigoted, anti gay and anti trans laws. They will suffer economic backlash they can ill afford from people protesting these Jim Crow-like laws and from the legal challenges that will result.

And the result of the legal challenges will be that you will lose...and even in the unlikely event that you win a case or two, public opinion will be overwhelmingly against the bigots and haters in just a few short years and these laws will be overturned.

Takes a really freaky pervert to want to follow a 6 year old girl into the bathroom.
Congradulations.

You're right it does. Of course, Transphobic laws don't stop "freaky perverts" from going into bathrooms, it just makes life more unsafe for trans people.

safe from what? you still haven't provided any evidence to support they are in danger. More lying libturd posting habits.

Oh; the "women are savages" crap again!! pathetic!

Greg

What?

Cops: DJ In Priest Garb Assaults Transgender

again, for being in the wrong bathroom you stupid ass. Don't you know how to fking read? AGain, a man in womens clothing is not a women. What the fk?

 

[Seawytch]

AFA has been listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as of November 2010 for the "propagation of known falsehoods" and the use of "demonizing propaganda" against LGBT people.[20]

It's always amusing when someone cites the Southern Poverty Law Center denouncing some other organization as a “hate group” and accusing another organization of “propagation of known falsehoods” and the use of “demonizing propaganda”. The irony and hypocrisy seems to be completely lost on such fools.

The Southern Poverty Law Center is an American nonprofit legal advocacy organization specializing in civil rights and public interest litigation. It is noted for its legal victories against white supremacist groups, its legal representation for victims of hate groups, its classification of militia movement and other extremist organizations, and its educational programs that promote tolerance

so what happened to 00001% of the population that we owe it anything? Still no evidence of a problem.

I know. So why you making it a problem? If a fake tranny molests your wife or daughter, call the cops.

always will, no need to offer up bait. So tell us why they need to use the other gender bathroom if they were never ever violated, have locks on all of the doors and no one ever threatened them? please pray tell.

They are violated, harassed and even raped.

Why on earth would you want to require that this person use the men's room?

 

[P@triot]

We can see why you right wingers might have a problem with this but the fact is, you are too stupid to see your concerns about creeps in the bathroom has very little to do with transvestites who just want to use the womens shitter because they feel like a woman

But what you fail to realize is that it doesn't matter what they feel like. I've known people that felt like Jesus Christ (and I'm not making that up), but I don't see you passing legislation forcing people to worship them and donate money to them. It's proof that you're hateful, bigoted, and most of all, discriminating against people. If someone feels like being sexually deviant, you celebrate them and demand special rights and laws for them. If someone feels like Jesus Christ, you mock them and demand that they go to psyche wards.

 

[P@triot]

They are violated, harassed and even raped.

Says the woman who could give a shit about heterosexual women brutally raped and now tormented by the idea of sexually deviant men being allowed to join them in a secluded area.

Funny how you only worry about the sexually deviant and spit on your fellow women who are heterosexual. You are the very definition of bigot and discrimination.