Men in women's bathrooms

[Silhouette]

They have to try slight of hand on this.

To win is to keep non transgender males out of woman's restrooms, while allowing transgender men in.

No, to win means to tell all males that they are male and if they harbor delusions otherwise, there is medication and therapy they can get to adjust their minds to the real world. The game of pretending, taken too far, is mental illness. To "win" means the community of mental health practitioners join with Johns Hopkins and others denouncing enabling gender dysphoria and urge the sufferers to seek help.

Anything less is a loss for everyone.

 

[kaz]

Trans friendly laws don't "open little girls bathrooms to sexual predators"

They don't? So a sexual predator tries to walk into a girls room, and they are stopped ... how?

Here's how you know I'm trying to get you to answer that question. I keep asking you that question. Apparently you know you're full of shit since you keep evading and hiding from the question.

What stops them? You're counting on their conscience? What?

The same law that stopped them before if it did. Anti trans law don't keep sexual predators from bathrooms, it just makes it more dangerous for trans people to use bathrooms...but that's okay with bigots.

15 Experts Debunk Right Wing Transgender Myths

How is it "anti-trans" to leave up to the owner of a bathroom how it's used? Freedom really is that scary to you, isn't it?

 

[sealybobo]

OK so your 8 year old daughter is in the women's bathroom washing her hands. A man, who thinks he's a woman, walks in, whips his dick out in front of her, and takes a leak.
OK with you?
If it is, you are one sick piece of shit.
Another wonderful democratic policy to add to their list.
And Bruce Springsteen: Fuck You. Your music sucks and apparently you do too. Pansy Ass worthless POS.
This country is fucked.

Women's bathrooms don't have urinal cakes stupid. They have stalls.

A tranny can't go into the boys room.

Men's bathrooms have stalls too.........dumb ass..........

The Leftists have now reached such a level of sheer craziness, their attempts at reasoning this entire issue have become bizarre and increasingly hysterical.

Maybe they think that if they keep repeating this stuff nearly 24/7, that they'll drive us as crazy as they are and we'll just all agree that yes, a man with a penis can ALSO be a woman and as such can enter female bathrooms....and that day is night, up is down and left is right.

I got lots of other things to worry about. A woman with a penis can use the woman's bathroom. Do you want a penis checker at the door?

since when do women have peckers? Holy shit you seen one of those?

The petition started by the American Family Association on Wednesday raises concerns that Target's inclusive stance on transgender rights encourages sexual predators and puts women and young girls in danger, because "a man can simply say he 'feels like a woman today' and enter the women's restroom."

How many times has this happened?

Target made its position public in a blog post last week, stating that the company welcomes "transgender team members and guests to use the restroom or fitting room facility that corresponds with their gender identity." The announcement comes as legislation on transgender issues in multiple states has spurred several major corporations and businesses to take a stance on LGBT rights.

Deutsche Bank halted a plan to add 250 jobs to an outpost of the company in North Carolina after the state passed a law requiring transgender people using public bathrooms to use the one associated with their gender at birth.

The American Family Association, a non-profit based in Tupelo, Miss., frequently protests on issues that target what it considers traditional family values. Its more recent campaigns include canceling the organization's use of PayPal after that company pulled back on plans to open a new facility in North Carolina due to the state's transgender bathroom law.

 

[kaz]

IF this was a major issue, why hasn't it been?

News Flash, folks. Transwomen have been using bathrooms for decades.

Bingo! And in localities that protect trans people, is there a greater incident of bathroom "attacks"? The answer is no.

And you know that ... how?

Click on the links I provided and you'd know too.

Post?

Go look for them, lazy taker. Stop making other people work for you.

Right, that's how you in your mind get away with making up your crap. I need to go research liberal blogs until I find what your ridiculous crap is based on.

Just to remind you, this is why I don't provide links for you unless I feel like it

 

[sealybobo]

The American Family Association (AFA) is a non-profit organization based in the United States that promotes fundamentalist Christian values.It opposes same-sex marriage,pornography, and abortion. It also takes a position on a variety of other public policy goals and has lobbied against the Employee Free Choice Act.

The AFA defined itself as "a Christian organization promoting the biblical ethic of decency in American society with primary emphasis on television and other media," later switching their stated emphasis to "moral issues that impact the family." It engages in activism efforts, including boycotts,buycotts, action alert emails, publications on the AFA's web sites or in the AFA Journal, broadcasts on American Family Radio, and lobbying. The AFA owns 200 American Family Radio stations in 33 states, seven affiliate stations in seven states, and one affiliate TV station KAZQ TV) in New Mexico.

AFA has been listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as of November 2010 for the "propagation of known falsehoods" and the use of "demonizing propaganda" against LGBT people.[20]

 

[jc456]

Women's bathrooms don't have urinal cakes stupid. They have stalls.

A tranny can't go into the boys room.

Men's bathrooms have stalls too.........dumb ass..........

The Leftists have now reached such a level of sheer craziness, their attempts at reasoning this entire issue have become bizarre and increasingly hysterical.

Maybe they think that if they keep repeating this stuff nearly 24/7, that they'll drive us as crazy as they are and we'll just all agree that yes, a man with a penis can ALSO be a woman and as such can enter female bathrooms....and that day is night, up is down and left is right.

I got lots of other things to worry about. A woman with a penis can use the woman's bathroom. Do you want a penis checker at the door?

since when do women have peckers? Holy shit you seen one of those?

The petition started by the American Family Association on Wednesday raises concerns that Target's inclusive stance on transgender rights encourages sexual predators and puts women and young girls in danger, because "a man can simply say he 'feels like a woman today' and enter the women's restroom."

How many times has this happened?

Target made its position public in a blog post last week, stating that the company welcomes "transgender team members and guests to use the restroom or fitting room facility that corresponds with their gender identity." The announcement comes as legislation on transgender issues in multiple states has spurred several major corporations and businesses to take a stance on LGBT rights.

Deutsche Bank halted a plan to add 250 jobs to an outpost of the company in North Carolina after the state passed a law requiring transgender people using public bathrooms to use the one associated with their gender at birth.

The American Family Association, a non-profit based in Tupelo, Miss., frequently protests on issues that target what it considers traditional family values. Its more recent campaigns include canceling the organization's use of PayPal after that company pulled back on plans to open a new facility in North Carolina due to the state's transgender bathroom law.

so dude, can you answer the question on the table right now? Show a link to a story about someone being a bigot to a trans person. Show one.

 

[kaz]

Because the laws that your side has implemented to sexually exploit women and children makes it perfectly ok for any man to walk into the women's room and do this stuff.

There is a reason it says "women" on the door. Why is it liberals struggle with something so simple? It one word. "Women". If you have an "X" chromosome anywhere in your body, you don't belong in there.

Trans laws would not have protected that person. Trans laws protect trans people from people like you, that's it.

If one percent of sexual predators are willing to lie to gain access to little girls in bathrooms, the odds of someone random going into the bathroom is still higher they are a sexual predator than an actual transgender. I thought you were a mother or a father or something, that's OK with you?

Crickets. Again, that's OK with you? Again, how do you know a man walking into a girls bathroom is a transgender or not?

Yes, trans bathroom laws are "okay with me". My daughter has been in the restroom with countless trans women since she was out of diapers.

Again, not the question. The question was about your plan to give sexual predators free access to girl's bathrooms. That damned reading comprehension problem you have again.

A man walks into your daughters bathroom. You know he's a transgender not a sexual predator how? Your gaydar?

Evading again, Wytch?

 

[kaz]

Crickets. Again, that's OK with you? Again, how do you know a man walking into a girls bathroom is a transgender or not?

Yes, trans bathroom laws are "okay with me". My daughter has been in the restroom with countless trans women since she was out of diapers.

IF this was a major issue, why hasn't it been?

News Flash, folks. Transwomen have been using bathrooms for decades.

Bullshit, they haven't been going into mens bathrooms. And another liberal who swished on the question. The question is not about transgenders using girl's bathrooms it's about opening girls bathrooms to sexual predators. As hard as it is to believe, sexual predators would actually, you know, lie. Stunning, huh?

No, they haven't. Transwomen who can pass (which is most of them) have been using women's bathrooms.

You're letting yourself get hooked by another brain dead GOP wedge issue. The entire bathroom issue is one grand red herring. If *anyone* is lurking in the bathrooms for any purpose beyond elimination, its already against the law.

And if a person is so void of morals or concern for the law that they're going to attack children....do you really think some random bathroom ordinance is going to stop them? It makes as much sense as Brussel's passing a 'no bombing' ordinance in hopes of stopping another terrorist attack.

The next layer of stupid in the GOP 'bathroom' red herring.... trans people are actually being hurt and assaulted when they are forced to use bathrooms that don't match. So you're insisting that we inflict *actual* harm to prevent *hypothetical* harm.....hypothetical harm that the laws in question do virtually nothing to prevent.

And finally, transmen look like men. You want this dude using the ladies bathroom?

I'm guessing no. Yet your laws mandate it.

where? put up a link where trans genders are getting assaulted.

Transgenders who have had sex change operations are using the bathroom of their new gender obviously.

Transgenders who have not had sex change operations obviously are a lot safer walking into a mens room than a ladie's room. No one's saying, hey a guy in the mens room but I can see with my inner eye he's a WOMAN! Let's beat him up!

Guys walking into a ladies room on the other hand that could totally happen to.

Skylar makes his shit up as he goes. What he said doesn't even make sense

 

[jc456]

These are real transgendered people.

10 Handsome Men (Who Were Born Female) (transgender female to male, female to male transformation) - ODDEE

You want all of them going into the women's room with your "wives and daughters "?

No those are not Sea. If those really were women, the only reason they look like that is because someone in the medical community violated every oath they ever took and not only butchered those people with a knife, but also prescribed medications they did not need simply to fulfill a sexually deviant behavior.

So again - those are either fake pictures or those are the result of medical personnel violating their oath. Either way, you're trying to create a problem that doesn't really exist.

Those are real female to male transgendered. What you think of them does not change the reality of them.

Do you want them going into the women's restroom with your "wives and daughters"? A simple yes or no will suffice.

I don't want anything with a penis walking into my the facilities that my daughter is using.

As I stated before and you have been unable to answer - why the need for these laws if the people are so indistinguishable? The fact that you can't answer that very simple question proves that I am right and you are wrong.

Why the need for anti gay laws? That's easy...bigotry.

These laws are bigots throwing a tantrum because they lost.

so basically, you have no evidence that anyone is a bigot, right?

 

[kaz]

Trans friendly laws don't "open little girls bathrooms to sexual predators"

They don't? So a sexual predator tries to walk into a girls room, and they are stopped ... how?

Here's how you know I'm trying to get you to answer that question. I keep asking you that question. Apparently you know you're full of shit since you keep evading and hiding from the question.

What stops them? You're counting on their conscience? What?

The same law that stopped them before if it did. Anti trans law don't keep sexual predators from bathrooms, it just makes it more dangerous for trans people to use bathrooms...but that's okay with bigots.

15 Experts Debunk Right Wing Transgender Myths

you keep using the word bigot. Post up some fking evidence you fk!

What's a myth that a person with a girl's inner self and a guys body is in any danger going to the mens room. He/she is clearly putting themselves in danger going to the women's room.

Just another leftist canard

 

[kaz]

These are real transgendered people.

10 Handsome Men (Who Were Born Female) (transgender female to male, female to male transformation) - ODDEE

You want all of them going into the women's room with your "wives and daughters "?

No those are not Sea. If those really were women, the only reason they look like that is because someone in the medical community violated every oath they ever took and not only butchered those people with a knife, but also prescribed medications they did not need simply to fulfill a sexually deviant behavior.

So again - those are either fake pictures or those are the result of medical personnel violating their oath. Either way, you're trying to create a problem that doesn't really exist.

Those are real female to male transgendered. What you think of them does not change the reality of them.

Do you want them going into the women's restroom with your "wives and daughters"? A simple yes or no will suffice.

I don't want anything with a penis walking into my the facilities that my daughter is using.

As I stated before and you have been unable to answer - why the need for these laws if the people are so indistinguishable? The fact that you can't answer that very simple question proves that I am right and you are wrong.

Why the need for anti gay laws? That's easy...bigotry.

These laws are bigots throwing a tantrum because they lost.

so basically, you have no evidence that anyone is a bigot, right?

She identifies bigots through her bigotry. She hates anyone who makes snap decisions about people without knowing anything personally about them and just going on their race, gender, orientation, etc. Whites, men, Christians, they're all like that just judging people. She hates that

 

[jc456]

IF this was a major issue, why hasn't it been?

News Flash, folks. Transwomen have been using bathrooms for decades.

Bingo! And in localities that protect trans people, is there a greater incident of bathroom "attacks"? The answer is no.

And you know that ... how?

Click on the links I provided and you'd know too.

Post?

Go look for them, lazy taker. Stop making other people work for you.

15 Experts Debunk Right Wing Transgender Myths

Equality NC director: No public safety risks in cities with transgender anti-discrimination rules

What’s the difference between transsexual, transgender, transvestite and cross-dresser? | Ask The Gay!

Equality NC director: No public safety risks in cities with transgender anti-discrimination rules

These Are the Transgender Bathroom Wars, in a Nutshell

Britain issues warning for LGBT travelers visiting North Carolina and Mississippi

GLAAD Media Reference Guide - Transgender Issues

10 Handsome Men (Who Were Born Female) (transgender female to male, female to male transformation) - ODDEE
there's your list, show me one out of that list, which I pulled up each one, says anything about violence towards a transgender person. ONE you fk!!! show me one. You liar, there is no bigotry except yours.

 

[P@triot]

Trans friendly laws don't "open little girls bathrooms to sexual predators"

They don't? So a sexual predator tries to walk into a girls room, and they are stopped ... how?

Here's how you know I'm trying to get you to answer that question. I keep asking you that question. Apparently you know you're full of shit since you keep evading and hiding from the question.

What stops them? You're counting on their conscience? What?

The same law that stopped them before if it did. Anti trans law don't keep sexual predators from bathrooms, it just makes it more dangerous for trans people to use bathrooms...but that's okay with bigots.

15 Experts Debunk Right Wing Transgender Myths

you keep using the word bigot. Post up some fking evidence you fk!

They have to make the false accusations of "racist", "bigot", "homophobic", etc. because they have been so thoroughly defeated on the battle field of ideas.

 

[Boss]

How sad that people like Seawytch hate straight people so much that they want them to be victims of sexual assaults. And look, to some degree, I get it when it comes to adults. I really do. If you were the victim of a lifetime of gay-bashing, I can understand hating straight adults (not necessarily to the degree of helping to make them victims of sexual assault, but I get it). But to take it out on children?

Cross-dresser arrested in bath house

Trans people and cross dressers are not the same. Argument fail...again.

Just different types of sexual deviants. Tom-ah-to, tom-ah-to

When they walk into a bathroom, how do you know whether they are transgender or a cross dresser?

No, actually they are completely different, especially in one key area:

Cross-dressers don’t associate with the LGBTQ community and don’t see themselves as anything but straight/heterosexual. Drag queens and drag kings are not usually labeled as cross-dressers/transvestites. Why? Good question, actually. People that dress in drag tend to be gay and cross-dressers tend to be straight.

What’s the difference between transsexual, transgender, transvestite and cross-dresser? | Ask The Gay!

Note you didn't answer the question:

When they walk into a bathroom, how do you know whether they are transgender or a cross dresser?

Or for that matter a sexual predator

How do these laws change any of it unless you plan on checking chromosomes before the restroom door will open?

Anti Trans laws protect no one. Pro Trans laws protect trans people from bigots.

Equality NC director: No public safety risks in cities with transgender anti-discrimination rules

My problem is, you're passing a law that completely turns our social mores and conventions on their ear in order to accommodate 0.03% of the population who have what is essentially a sexual perversion. This kind of absolute shit has to stop somewhere... we can't go down this rabbit hole.

Flash forward 50 years... If you are seated on a bus and someone is standing in the aisle next to you, they have the right to stick their penis in your mouth because you got to sit down. NC has passed a law to prevent this but the left-wingers are calling everyone bigots and homophobes because they won't allow this. That's the kind of insanity we're headed toward.

Now... When I was a kid, my parents had this thing for whenever one of us asked for something really stupid.... they said NO! end of discussion! IF we dared ask again, it was, NO, and if you ask again you'll be sorry! Whatever happened to that?

 

[P@triot]

Last one for you Seawytch. Found this posted in the comments section on a web site under an article discussing this issue. I'm curious as to why you seem to have so much compassion for the fake "trauma" of transgenders, and yet so much sincere indifference to the real trauma suffered from women and children of sexual assault?

"Here is my concern: as a rape survivor, who is going to compensate me for my trauma when I have to use a public restroom where a man is permitted to go in with his penis (rapists' weapon of choice) or tend to "cleanup on aisle 6" when my PTSD won't permit me to enter an area where I don't feel safe? Where is my safe zone?"

The answer of course is that you have nothing but disdain for normal, heterosexual people and you could care less about their plight Even that of a fellow woman. And that is a special kind of sick.

 

[Boss]

But none of you will admit trannys have been using the ladies room for over 100 years here in America.

I get it. Its an election year and You republicans are getting creamed so you're trying to rile up the base. Wedge issues to divide us

Well... No, they really haven't. And this isn't a Republican/Democrat thing, it's a common sense thing. I promise you this... your precious 95% voting block of blacks who are Democrats are staunchly opposed to this nonsense. Also, don't know if you realized this but the GOP front-runner has said he thinks transgenders ought to be able to use the restroom they feel like using... so there goes your "theory" shot to hell right there.

Now look... IF you are a genetically transgender person like some of the RARE examples we've seen pictures of posted here, where no one can tell you are a man or no one can tell you are a woman... then in your case, you can probably get away with using the restroom opposite your gender. As long as you go in, do your business and mind your own business, no one is going to stop you, no one is ever going to know. However... out of the 0.03% of transgenders, MOST are not selling it that well. Transvestites actually get off on the shock value and they don't want to totally look like women. They want to look just man enough that you notice them as men in drag and not women. That's the turn on... that's why they do it.

Most of the people who identify as transgender are not homosexual, they are sexual perverts.

 

[Seawytch]

Let me tell ya'll how this is going to go down. A bunch of backwards, mostly southern, states are going to pass bigoted, anti gay and anti trans laws. They will suffer economic backlash they can ill afford from people protesting these Jim Crow-like laws and from the legal challenges that will result.

And the result of the legal challenges will be that you will lose...and even in the unlikely event that you win a case or two, public opinion will be overwhelmingly against the bigots and haters in just a few short years and these laws will be overturned.

Takes a really freaky pervert to want to follow a 6 year old girl into the bathroom.
Congradulations.

You're right it does. Of course, Transphobic laws don't stop "freaky perverts" from going into bathrooms, it just makes life more unsafe for trans people.

 

[jc456]

Let me tell ya'll how this is going to go down. A bunch of backwards, mostly southern, states are going to pass bigoted, anti gay and anti trans laws. They will suffer economic backlash they can ill afford from people protesting these Jim Crow-like laws and from the legal challenges that will result.

And the result of the legal challenges will be that you will lose...and even in the unlikely event that you win a case or two, public opinion will be overwhelmingly against the bigots and haters in just a few short years and these laws will be overturned.

Takes a really freaky pervert to want to follow a 6 year old girl into the bathroom.
Congradulations.

You're right it does. Of course, Transphobic laws don't stop "freaky perverts" from going into bathrooms, it just makes life more unsafe for trans people.

safe from what? you still haven't provided any evidence to support they are in danger. More lying libturd posting habits.

 

[Seawytch]

Yes, trans bathroom laws are "okay with me". My daughter has been in the restroom with countless trans women since she was out of diapers.

IF this was a major issue, why hasn't it been?

News Flash, folks. Transwomen have been using bathrooms for decades.

Bullshit, they haven't been going into mens bathrooms. And another liberal who swished on the question. The question is not about transgenders using girl's bathrooms it's about opening girls bathrooms to sexual predators. As hard as it is to believe, sexual predators would actually, you know, lie. Stunning, huh?

No, they haven't. Transwomen who can pass (which is most of them) have been using women's bathrooms.

You're letting yourself get hooked by another brain dead GOP wedge issue. The entire bathroom issue is one grand red herring. If *anyone* is lurking in the bathrooms for any purpose beyond elimination, its already against the law.

And if a person is so void of morals or concern for the law that they're going to attack children....do you really think some random bathroom ordinance is going to stop them? It makes as much sense as Brussel's passing a 'no bombing' ordinance in hopes of stopping another terrorist attack.

The next layer of stupid in the GOP 'bathroom' red herring.... trans people are actually being hurt and assaulted when they are forced to use bathrooms that don't match. So you're insisting that we inflict *actual* harm to prevent *hypothetical* harm.....hypothetical harm that the laws in question do virtually nothing to prevent.

And finally, transmen look like men. You want this dude using the ladies bathroom?

I'm guessing no. Yet your laws mandate it.

where? put up a link where trans genders are getting assaulted.

Transgenders who have had sex change operations are using the bathroom of their new gender obviously.

Transgenders who have not had sex change operations obviously are a lot safer walking into a mens room than a ladie's room. No one's saying, hey a guy in the mens room but I can see with my inner eye he's a WOMAN! Let's beat him up!

Guys walking into a ladies room on the other hand that could totally happen to.

Skylar makes his shit up as he goes. What he said doesn't even make sense

Obviously? That's not what most of your fellow transphobic posters are saying. They want chromosome tests prior to peeing.

Texas Bill Would Jail Those Whose Chromosomes Don't Match the Restroom They're Using | Advocate.com

And some states want to turn students into the pecker checking police if they don't use the one identified with their gender AT BIRTH

Kansas Bill Would Let Students Sue Over Transgender Bathroom Use

Just another GOP solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

Trans people aren't predators and aren't a danger to children.

 

[Boss]

Let me tell ya'll how this is going to go down. A bunch of backwards, mostly southern, states are going to pass bigoted, anti gay and anti trans laws. They will suffer economic backlash they can ill afford from people protesting these Jim Crow-like laws and from the legal challenges that will result.

And the result of the legal challenges will be that you will lose...and even in the unlikely event that you win a case or two, public opinion will be overwhelmingly against the bigots and haters in just a few short years and these laws will be overturned.

Takes a really freaky pervert to want to follow a 6 year old girl into the bathroom.
Congradulations.

You're right it does. Of course, Transphobic laws don't stop "freaky perverts" from going into bathrooms, it just makes life more unsafe for trans people.

Give me a break... no one is talking about shooting trans people for being in the ladies room.

The level of emotive bleating from you morons is amazing.