Mexican President: Mexico Doesn’t Believe In Walls

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"The Mexican president also said that “Mexico doesn’t believe in walls,” and that “Mexico won’t pay for a wall.”

Mexico doesn't believe in walls, huh?


What Hypocrisy? Mexico Announces Plans for GREAT WALL on Southern Border with Central America

Mexican officialss are talking about building a great wall on its southern border with Central America. It seems Mexico agrees with Donald Trump’s plans to build a wall to keep out illegal immigrants – but only on its southern border with Central America.

"Mexicans are calling for the border wall to keep out Guatemalans, Salvadorans and Hondurans fleeing violence in their own countries."



Mexico Already Has a Giant Wall, and a Mining Company Helped to Build It

Some walls are made of concrete and razor wire. Others are made of soldiers, violence, bureaucracy and misinformation. While Grupo Mexico has built a long wall to stop migrants from getting on or off its long distance train, “The Beast,” the Mexican government’s Southern Border Plan is also making it much harder for Central American migrants desperately fleeing violence and poverty to travel through the country.



Mexico moves to lock down its OTHER border wall | Daily Mail Online




Mexico has a serious, and growing, problem with immigrants transiting through Mexico on the way to the US. For years Mexico has had a more lenient policy with their own illegals TRANSITING THROUGH Mexico (not staying) on the way to the US. It is being reported now that if the US gets serious about closing and controlling its US-Mexican border the flow of illegals into their country on the way to the US will back-up and become much MORE 'their' problem. As mentioned, they already have enough problems with these transiting illegals, so they are getting serious about closing / controlling their own southern border now.

'Mexico doesn't believe in walls' my ass.
 
Canada should build a wall

The only reason Canada would need to build a wall is to keep the liberals from fleeing every time a Republican is elected President, however Canadians realized that liberals won't flee to Canada unless someone else pays for the move.
 
a market friendly visa could solve our illegal problem on permanent basis using capitalism, not socialism.
Actually - enforcing our immigration laws would solve all of our illegal alien problems on a permanent basis. Crime is not an economic issue genius. It is neither capitalist or socialist.
 
I can't wait until Trump suspends ALL foreign aid to Mexico. The country will collapse. And it will be glorious to watch.
 
a market friendly visa could solve our illegal problem on permanent basis using capitalism, not socialism.
Actually - enforcing our immigration laws would solve all of our illegal alien problems on a permanent basis. Crime is not an economic issue genius. It is neither capitalist or socialist.
making it a crime is an economic rational choice. a market friendly visa will generate revenue to defray the cost of Government.

only the right wing, has a problem with it.
 
I can't wait until Trump suspends ALL foreign aid to Mexico. The country will collapse. And it will be glorious to watch.
That is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics:
Mexico is currently our 3rd largest goods trading partner with $531 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2015. Goods exports totaled $236 billion; goods imports totaled $295 billion. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Mexico was $58 billion in 2015.

Source: Mexico | United States Trade Representative
 
making it a crime is an economic rational choice. a market friendly visa will generate revenue to defray the cost of Government.

only the right wing, has a problem with it.
Bwahahahaha! By that "logic" (and man am I using that term loosely here) making rape a crime is an "economic rational choice" and "rape friendly visas will generate revenue to defray the cost to government".

The cost is not an issue. At all. Hell - the money recouped by not educating these illegals, not providing healthcare to these illegals, not providing housing to these illegals, not providing food to these illegals, will more than cover ALL of the costs and then some. As will stop aid to Mexico. We'll have an insane surplus.
 
I can't wait until Trump suspends ALL foreign aid to Mexico. The country will collapse. And it will be glorious to watch.
That is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics:
Mexico is currently our 3rd largest goods trading partner with $531 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2015. Goods exports totaled $236 billion; goods imports totaled $295 billion. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Mexico was $58 billion in 2015.

Source: Mexico | United States Trade Representative
Do you have a point to your socialist babbling? Do you really believe the U.S. needs trade with Mexico to survive? :lmao:
 
Canada should build a wall
They don't have to - they realize that all the liberals who threatened to move to Canada if Trump won were bluffing. :p
Nonetheless, building a 2000 mile, multi-billion dollar wall on the southern border won't stop drug runners and terrorists from simply going around it by boat or one of the other 5500+ miles of Canadian border or 12,400+ miles of coastline.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS21729.pdf
9/11 terrorists went through canada

which mostly looks like this

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in fact after 9/11 when intelligence agencies told Republicans to increase canada's border patrols Bush cut funding to Canada's by 10 fold and increased mexican border patrol by the same amount
 
a market friendly visa could solve our illegal problem on permanent basis using capitalism, not socialism.
Not sure what you are really trying to do or go for here or how that would play out, but regardless of any of that it certainly is an intriguing idea...need to figure out who, and how many, would be eligible and how that would affect or conflict with current immigration policy but it is something that piques my curiosity...an idea that is at least worth considering even if it is in jest.
 
I can't wait until Trump suspends ALL foreign aid to Mexico. The country will collapse. And it will be glorious to watch.
That is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics:
Mexico is currently our 3rd largest goods trading partner with $531 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2015. Goods exports totaled $236 billion; goods imports totaled $295 billion. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Mexico was $58 billion in 2015.

Source: Mexico | United States Trade Representative
Do you have a point to your socialist babbling? Do you really believe the U.S. needs trade with Mexico to survive? :lmao:
Survive? No. Prosper? Yes....unless you think over a million US jobs and hundreds of billions of dollars in trade are easily forgotten.

Mexico | United States Trade Representative
U.S.-Mexico Trade Facts

U.S. goods and services trade with Mexico totaled an estimated $583.6 billion in 2015. Exports were $267.2 billion; imports were $316.4 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade deficit with Mexico was -$49.2 billion in 2015.

Mexico is currently our 3rd largest goods trading partner with $531 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2015. Goods exports totaled $236 billion; goods imports totaled $295 billion. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Mexico was $58 billion in 2015.

Trade in services with Mexico (exports and imports) totaled an estimated $52.4 billion in 2015. Services exports were $30.8 billion; services imports were $21.6 billion. The U.S. services trade surplus with Mexico was $9.2 billion in 2015.

According to the Department of Commerce, U.S. exports of goods and services to Mexico supported an estimated 1.1 million jobs in 2014 (latest data available) (953 thousand supported by goods exports and 193 thousand supported by services exports).

Exports

  • Mexico was the United States' 2nd largest goods export market in 2015.
  • U.S. goods exports to Mexico in 2015 were $236 billion, down 1.6% ($3.9 billion) from 2014 but up 97% from 2005. U.S. exports to Mexico are up 468% from 1993 (pre-NAFTA). U.S. exports to Mexico account for 15.7% of overall U.S. exports in 2015.
  • The top export categories (2-digit HS) in 2015 were: machinery ($42 billion), electrical machinery ($41 billion), vehicles ($22 billion), mineral fuels ($19 billion), and plastics ($17 billion).
  • U.S. exports of agricultural products to Mexico totaled $18 billion in 2015, our 3th largest agricultural export market. Leading categories include: corn ($2.3 billion), soybeans ($1.4 billion), dairy products ($1.3 billion), pork & pork products ($1.3 billion), and beef & beef products ($1.1 billion).
  • U.S. exports of services to Mexico were an estimated $30.8 billion in 2015, 2.7% ($807 million) more than 2014, and 36.7% greater than 2005 levels. It was up roughly 196% from 1993 (pre-NAFTA). Based on 2014, leading services exports from the U.S. to Mexico were in the travel, transportation, and intellectual property (computer software) sectors.
Imports

  • Mexico was the United States' 3rd largest supplier of goods imports in 2015.
  • U.S. goods imports from Mexico totaled $295 billion in 2015, up 0.2% ($667 million) from 2014, and up 73% from 2005. U.S. imports from Mexico are up 638% from 1993 (pre-NAFTA). U.S. imports from Mexico are up 638% from 1993 (pre-NAFTA).
  • The top import categories (2-digit HS) in 2015 were: vehicles ($74 billion), electrical machinery ($63 billion), machinery ($49 billion), mineral fuels ($14 billion), and optical and medical instruments ($12 billion).
  • U.S. imports of agricultural products from Mexico totaled $21 billion in 2015, our 2nd largest supplier of agricultural imports. Leading categories include: fresh vegetables ($4.8 billion), other fresh fruit ($4.3 billion), wine and beer ($2.7 billion), snack foods ($1.7 billion), and processed fruit & vegetables ($1.4 billion).
  • U.S. imports of services from Mexico were an estimated $21.6 billion in 2015, 11.0% ($2.1 billion) more than 2014, and 50.0% greater than 2005 levels. It was up roughly 191% from 1993 (pre-NAFTA). Based on 2014, leading services imports from Mexico to the U.S. were in the travel, transportation, and technical and other services sectors.
Trade Balance

  • The U.S. goods trade deficit with Mexico was $58 billion in 2015, a 8.4% increase ($4.5 billion) over 2014.
  • The United States has a services trade surplus of an estimated $9.2 billion with Mexico in 2015, down 12.7% from 2014.
Investment

  • U.S. foreign direct investment (FDI) in Mexico (stock) was $107.8 billion in 2014 (latest data available), a 5.3% increase from 2013. U.S. direct investment in Mexico is led by nonbank holding companies, manufacturing, and finance/insurance.
  • Mexico's FDI in the United States (stock) was $17.7 billion in 2014 (latest data available), up 4.0% from 2013. Mexico's direct investment in the U.S. is led by manufacturing, wholesale trade, and depository institutions.
  • Sales of services in Mexico by majority U.S.-owned affiliates were $43.4 billion in 2013 (latest data available), while sales of services in the United States by majority Mexico-owned firms were $7.5 billion.
 
Canada should build a wall
They don't have to - they realize that all the liberals who threatened to move to Canada if Trump won were bluffing. :p
Nonetheless, building a 2000 mile, multi-billion dollar wall on the southern border won't stop drug runners and terrorists from simply going around it by boat or one of the other 5500+ miles of Canadian border or 12,400+ miles of coastline.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS21729.pdf
The coast line is pretty heavily populated though. Way more than the desert. Chances of them getting nabbed are much larger. Nothing will cut it all off but a real border is a big step. Mexico doesn't want a wall because we are nothing effing with their economy, funny how that works.
 

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