Michael Cohen office raided by FBI

[Hutch Starskey]

Like the analogy I heard on MSNBC earlier tonight: The surgeon opened up the patient and realized he was full of cancer. That's probably what Mueller uncovered when he opened up the Trump investigation - that the Trump organization is full of crime. Crime everywhere.

Except they didn't find any cancer. They just suspected cancer, and kept digging and digging for hours and hours until the patient died on the operating table.

Except they didn't find any cancer. They just suspected cancer, and kept digging and digging for hours and hours until the patient died on the operating table.

Of course you have no idea of what was found or not found. What you should know is there was certainly enough before the warrant was executed to meet the probable cause standard.

 

[mudwhistle]

No, it shows the Special Counsel has proof of a crime. There’s no way they would have obtained a warrant for, not just an attorney, but an attorney to the POTUS.

They didn't need proof of a crime to create the special council.
What makes you think a simple thing like not having probable-cause is going to stop these criminals from abusing the president's constitutional rights?

Hillary knowingly destroyed evidence and obstructed justice, but Trump has been fully cooperating with this investigation, and yet you feel he's guilty because nothing has been found yet and he says that it's a witch hunt.
Obviously you don't know or care what is real and what is imaginary.

Old......just plain old....and lame.
Hillary's emails are simply proof of obstruction.
Still waiting on Mueller sending the FBI to raid her home and offices.
I won't hold my breath.

Omg let hillary go!

They can’t. Then they’ll have nothing.

Nothing other than clear obstruction.

18 U.S. Code § 1519 - Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy

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Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

(Added Pub. L. 107–204, title VIII, § 802(a), July 30, 2002, 116 Stat. 800.)

 

[sealybobo]

No, it shows the Special Counsel has proof of a crime. There’s no way they would have obtained a warrant for, not just an attorney, but an attorney to the POTUS.

They didn't need proof of a crime to create the special council.
What makes you think a simple thing like not having probable-cause is going to stop these criminals from abusing the president's constitutional rights?

Hillary knowingly destroyed evidence and obstructed justice, but Trump has been fully cooperating with this investigation, and yet you feel he's guilty because nothing has been found yet and he says that it's a witch hunt.
Obviously you don't know or care what is real and what is imaginary.

Old......just plain old....and lame.
Hillary's emails are simply proof of obstruction.
Still waiting on Mueller sending the FBI to raid her home and offices.
I won't hold my breath.

Omg let hillary go!

They can’t. Then they’ll have nothing.

They have nothing. Hillary is probably squeakier clean than all of them.

If we investigate any republican you’ll find wrong doing.

Republicans didn’t think they’d be able to prove trump is a criminal. Like Capone

I knew trump would go too far and not be careful enough.

90% of trumps team is fired, quit or has been indicted

 

[mudwhistle]

Omg let hillary go!

Whining about Hellary and Bozo is all they've got, besides ad hominem attacks.
I wonder if there'll be a spike in suicides when Mueller finally moves on the Orange Turd.
They've got plenty of guns, watch for terrorism committed in the name of patriotism.

All we got?
What else is there?
Who do you think is involved in this criminal conspiracy, Santa Claus???

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

At 7:07am eastern time, Trump tweeted “Attorney–client privilege is dead!” Of course that’s not what happened here at all.
A federal judge signed off on the search warrant under the belief that:

A) it would result in evidence that Trump and Cohen conspired to commit a crime together,
and
B) Cohen was likely to destroy the evidence if he had simply been subpoenaed.

Someone forgot to tell Trump that attorney-client privilege doesn’t apply when you and your lawyer are criminal co-conspirators.

​

 

[gipper]

Yes, it is helpful. It shows exactly why Obbergruppenfuhrer Mewler should be sacked.

"It’s very unusual for the Department of Justice to permit prosecutors to raid an attorney’s office and that’s because you want to be careful not to get privileged material," said Litman, who teaches at the UCLA School of Law and continues to practice at the law firm Constantine Cannon.

In order to get the OK to raid Cohen's office, prosecutors would have had to get approval from high up — in this case from Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein — and demonstrate to a federal magistrate both probable cause and the need for a warrant instead of a subpoena (such as a concern that Cohen might destroy evidence), Litman explained.

In addition, the probable cause would have to relate to a crime centered on Cohen. "You can’t use it as end run around to get to the client," Litman explained.

There will also be a "taint team" to examine everything before it is handed over to prosecutors to make sure that those conducting the case never see any material that might be "tainted" by attorney-client privilege."
​

The fact that Rosenstein approved it only shows why he is unfit to hold the office he occupies. Using it as an end run around to get the client is exactly what Mewler is doing. That's perfectly obvious. How could those conducting the case never see the material? They've already seen it.

No, it shows the Special Counsel has proof of a crime. There’s no way they would have obtained a warrant for, not just an attorney, but an attorney to the POTUS.

They didn't need proof of a crime to create the special council.
What makes you think a simple thing like not having probable-cause is going to stop these criminals from abusing the president's constitutional rights?

Hillary knowingly destroyed evidence and obstructed justice, but Trump has been fully cooperating with this investigation, and yet you feel he's guilty because nothing has been found yet and he says that it's a witch hunt.
Obviously you don't know or care what is real and what is imaginary.

Old......just plain old....and lame.
Hillary's emails are simply proof of obstruction.
Still waiting on Mueller sending the FBI to raid her home and offices.
I won't hold my breath.

Omg let hillary go!

Yeah...crooks need to be protected, but only if they are D crooks.

 

[mudwhistle]

They didn't need proof of a crime to create the special council.
What makes you think a simple thing like not having probable-cause is going to stop these criminals from abusing the president's constitutional rights?

Hillary knowingly destroyed evidence and obstructed justice, but Trump has been fully cooperating with this investigation, and yet you feel he's guilty because nothing has been found yet and he says that it's a witch hunt.
Obviously you don't know or care what is real and what is imaginary.

Old......just plain old....and lame.
Hillary's emails are simply proof of obstruction.
Still waiting on Mueller sending the FBI to raid her home and offices.
I won't hold my breath.

Omg let hillary go!

They can’t. Then they’ll have nothing.

They have nothing. Hillary is probably squeakier clean than all of them.

If we investigate any republican you’ll find wrong doing.

Republicans didn’t think they’d be able to prove trump is a criminal. Like Capone

I knew trump would go too far and not be careful enough.

90% of trumps team is fired, quit or has been indicted

You are so full of shit.

 

[Care4all]

Sorry bout that,


1. It will be costly to Mueller.
2. He is a screw up.
3. Its better to just go ahead and fire his dumb ass!
4. And abuse of power charges should be brought against him in Federal Court.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

For what?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

[
Trump personally interviewed the US Attorney for the southern district of New York. The one whose office just carried out the search warrant.

I agree. Trump personally interviewed him. I wonder if Trump will now withdraw Geoffrey Berman's nomination.

Trump knows the US Attorney in New York is the one empowered to investigate crimes carried out in New York, where Trump Inc is based. That's why he FIRED the previous US Attorney Prett Bhrar. And why Trump personally interviewed his temporary replacement.

I agree, and if Trump terminates Rosenstein and Mueller - this will continue in New York. Trump can't pardon for crimes in state law. Trump can only pardon for federal offenses.

HUH?

WTF?

IS THE US ATTORNEY IN NYC PROSECUTING STATE OFFENSES?!?!?!?!?!?


.

IS THE US ATTORNEY IN NYC PROSECUTING STATE OFFENSES?!?!?!?!?!?

Of course not but he can certainly refer any of their findings to the state.

 

[gipper]

They didn't need proof of a crime to create the special council.
What makes you think a simple thing like not having probable-cause is going to stop these criminals from abusing the president's constitutional rights?

Hillary knowingly destroyed evidence and obstructed justice, but Trump has been fully cooperating with this investigation, and yet you feel he's guilty because nothing has been found yet and he says that it's a witch hunt.
Obviously you don't know or care what is real and what is imaginary.

Old......just plain old....and lame.
Hillary's emails are simply proof of obstruction.
Still waiting on Mueller sending the FBI to raid her home and offices.
I won't hold my breath.

Omg let hillary go!

They can’t. Then they’ll have nothing.

Nothing other than clear obstruction.

18 U.S. Code § 1519 - Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy

• US Code

prev | next
Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

(Added Pub. L. 107–204, title VIII, § 802(a), July 30, 2002, 116 Stat. 800.)

Apparently they can't see the obvious hypocrisy.

Partisans...are just so dumb.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Shortly after 7 PM Donald Trump posted this helpless tweet: “A TOTAL WITCH HUNT!!!”..........this is from a Career Criminal who has operated his Flim Flam for decades with no consequences.....Karma-Armageddon is a Bea Otche Orange Grease Ball Cheroot.............

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No way Trump will be prosecuted for anything now.

Charging someone after you’ve raided their lawyer — especially someone whose millions of supporters already distrust the DOJ –is absolutely explosive.

Are you offhandedly suggesting that you are prepared to kill your fellow Americans over Trump?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Palmer Report‏Verified account @PalmerReport 7m7 minutes ago

Donald Trump's day so far:
- "A TOTAL WITCH HUNT!!!"
- What a whiny little witch
- "Attorney–client privilege is dead!"
- His presidency is dead
- Michael Cohen is going to prison
- Trump will be in the cell next to him
- Mueller has more up his sleeve
- It's still only 7:33 am

​

 

[MaryAnne11]

Trump ranting that AG Sessions should not have recused himself is proof Sessions has more integrity than Trump. And I do not admire Sessions.

He knew he was involved so if Trump fires him, Sessions will have a shred of integrity left for following the law.

Nope.....everyone in the WH feels Sessions fucked Trump.
Sessions never should have accepted the appointment, and thus none of this would even be happening in the first place.
Now Russian Collusion isn't even part of the investigation.
Now they're trying to prove bank fraud over a payment to a porn star.

Never mind all of the evidence that keeps slapping everyone in the face over Obama's crimes and Hillary's clear obstruction.
The DoJ refuses to turn over documents to Congress.
Obviously they are obstructing an investigation.

Agreed. It is all bull shit, but I suspect it will take Trump down. The ruling class wants him gone. Conversely, the ruling class loved Big Ears and Cankles, as such they are protected. Sadly, many Americans do see this...all they know is what the MSM tells them.

We can only hope he does not start a war to satisfy the MIC and Deep State, to save his job.

What will take trump down? Say it! What did he do?

Ask Mueller. He is the one doing the investigation, indictments, convictions and he turned the raid over to the Criminal Court.

Have patience, all will be revealed in time.

 

[bripat9643]

How was it illegal?

all campaign expenditures have to be documented and reported.

Since the payoff to Daniels was to keep her quiet before 2016 election, and was not reported to the FEC, it's an illegal campaign expenditure.

The campaign didn't make the expenditure, douchebag.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Except for the NDA with a porn star.

Which is not illegal for Trump to enter or pay.

It is however, illegal to not disclose it as a campaign expense. There is no question that the payment was made to benefit the campaign.

 

[bripat9643]

The "Fixer" has been fixed....

Michael "Coffee tea or me " Cohen

If it wasn't for photoshop, what would you have to post?

If it wasn't for "the Stupid" what would you be posting GIMP... I know I got your attention Zombie shuffler


Cohen is a member of the #RNC hierarchy. Presumably his office would contain records/materials related to RNC business, funny or otherwise.
wait this just in

Not anymore LOL Cohen has been ERASED

Apparently you believe your photoshop proves something. What is "part of the #RNC hierarchy" supposed to mean?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Apparently you believe your photoshop proves something. What is "part of the #RNC hierarchy" supposed to mean?

LOL Insider to shady inner GOP finances

Michael Cohen, Trump's lawyer, takes a top RNC finance role
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/michael-cohen-trumps-lawyer-and-a-republica...

Apr 3, 2017 - Michael Cohen, a new Republican convert and personal lawyer to President Trump, will become the national deputy chairman for Republican National Committee's finance leadership team.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Trump just Underwent a Cohen-Noscopy ...Ouch LoL
Use of search warrant sends message on Michael Cohen probe
▶ 4:57
https://www.msnbc.com/.../use-of-search-warrant-sends-message-on-...

Barbara McQuade, former U.S. attorney, talks with Rachel Maddow about the legal particulars of the FBI raid ..

 

[bripat9643]

This might be helpful.

What about attorney-client privilege? How the FBI can obtain a warrant for Cohen's office

Yes, it is helpful. It shows exactly why Obbergruppenfuhrer Mewler should be sacked.

"It’s very unusual for the Department of Justice to permit prosecutors to raid an attorney’s office and that’s because you want to be careful not to get privileged material," said Litman, who teaches at the UCLA School of Law and continues to practice at the law firm Constantine Cannon.

In order to get the OK to raid Cohen's office, prosecutors would have had to get approval from high up — in this case from Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein — and demonstrate to a federal magistrate both probable cause and the need for a warrant instead of a subpoena (such as a concern that Cohen might destroy evidence), Litman explained.

In addition, the probable cause would have to relate to a crime centered on Cohen. "You can’t use it as end run around to get to the client," Litman explained.

There will also be a "taint team" to examine everything before it is handed over to prosecutors to make sure that those conducting the case never see any material that might be "tainted" by attorney-client privilege."
​

The fact that Rosenstein approved it only shows why he is unfit to hold the office he occupies. Using it as an end run around to get the client is exactly what Mewler is doing. That's perfectly obvious. How could those conducting the case never see the material? They've already seen it.

No, it shows the Special Counsel has proof of a crime. There’s no way they would have obtained a warrant for, not just an attorney, but an attorney to the POTUS.

Bullshit.

Fucking moron, federal judges don’t just casually grant search warrants on personal attorneys to the President of the United States. Your hollow dismissal doesn’t alter that.

Leftwing judges make absurd decisions all the time. Conisder the decision that Trump's immigration restrictions were illegal. Tossed.