Military court rules "Bump Stocks," are not machine guns.....duh.....

[iamwhatiseem]

Bump stocks are amusing toys for the most part. Most people recognize you can't aim whatsoever with one.
Having said that, it can be used to provide devastating mass injury if firing into a crowd as the shooter in Las Vegas did by killing 9 people in under 30 seconds and a total of 58 dead with 411 injuries.
Bump stocks are and should ALWAYS continue to be strictly forbidden.
And I am a gun supporter with 3 guns in my home.

 

[DrLove]

Again...please, define "machine gun."

That way we can all discuss the topic on the same note..........

Please...define machine gun.

Machine gun: an automatic gun that fires bullets in rapid succession for as long as the trigger is pressed.
"machine-gun fire"

And the difference is? Oh wait, there is no difference in the rate one can spray bullets with a bump stock. So the only difference is that one is considered fully automatic and the other a semi-automatic which has been turned into a fully automatic.

 

[2aguy]

Machine gun: an automatic gun that fires bullets in rapid succession for as long as the trigger is pressed.
"machine-gun fire"

And the difference is? Oh wait, there is no difference in the rate one can spray bullets with a bump stock. So the only difference is that one is considered fully automatic and the other a semi-automatic which has been turned into a fully automatic.

A bump stock does not work that way, hence, you dumb fuck, it is not a machine gun.

It is not fully automatic you dipshit.....each pull of the trigger fires only one bullet......that means it is a semi-automatic tool.

It is also a range toy.....only amateurs play with them...you moron.

Again.....you have a racist in your quote page... a racist who liked to appear in black face.........in any other context you would be called a racist.

 

[DrLove]

A bump stock does not work that way, hence, you dumb fuck, it is not a machine gun.

It is not fully automatic you dipshit.....each pull of the trigger fires only one bullet......that means it is a semi-automatic tool.

It is also a range toy.....only amateurs play with them...you moron.

Only amateurs like this who want to inflict mass casualties. Tell it to the Paddock and the 60 dead people and 867 injured in Vegas. Then get back to me.

 

[Desperado]

Bump stocks are not machine guns.....

US Military Courts Rules Bump Stocks Are Not Machine Guns

A Military three-judge panel agreed with the defense, unanimously ruled that bump stocks do not meet the definition of a machine gun.

www.ammoland.com

Only idiots thought they were

 

[2aguy]

Only amateurs like this who want to inflict mass casualties. Tell it to the Paddock and the 60 dead people and 867 injured in Vegas. Then get back to me.

Since you are an idiot......I will explain it to you....the bump stock kept him from killing and injuring even more people...you dumb ass. Had he simply fired the rifle without the bump stock he would have kept more bullets going into the crowd, hitting more people...the out of control recoil caused by the bump stock caused the muzzle of the rifle to rise with each burst....that meant bullet flew over the crowd and didn't hit people...you dumb ass.......

Had he simply used a rental truck, like the muslim terrorist in France. he could have killed more people...that muslim terrorist murdered 86 people people, not 60 and wounded 434....

Or, had he simply flow a private plane into the audience he would have killed more...since he also had a private pilots license and the money to rent a plane...

 

[2aguy]

Only amateurs like this who want to inflict mass casualties. Tell it to the Paddock and the 60 dead people and 867 injured in Vegas. Then get back to me.

The wounded were 411 by gun fire...you dumb ass.....the muslim in France wounded 434 with his truck...

 

[DrLove]

The wounded were 411 by gun fire...you dumb ass.....the muslim in France wounded 434 with his truck...

Well that changes everything - Dumbass

 

[2aguy]

Well that changes everything - Dumbass

No, it doesn't, but it does show you are a dumb ass, who doesn't understand the topic you are discussing...

 

[DrLove]

No, it doesn't, but it does show you are a dumb ass, who doesn't understand the topic you are discussing...

You still haven't answered my question. Could Stephen Paddock have killed that many people without bump stocks? Clearly the answer is no, which shows me that you don't understand the topic you stupidly brought up.

 

[2aguy]

You still haven't answered my question. Could Stephen Paddock have killed that many people without bump stocks? Clearly the answer is no, which shows me that you don't understand the topic you stupidly brought up.

Yes....in fact, he could have killed more.....he was firing from a concealed and fortified position into a crowd of over 22,000 people, who were trapped in a confined space with limited exits......where the initial attack was masked by the noise of the concert...had he not used the bump stock he would have killed more people and wounded more people....you doofus.

You obviously didn't get the part where the muzzle rise caused by the bump stock forced bullets to completely miss the people in the stadium...bullets that would have killed or wounded more people...you dumb ass.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Since you are an idiot......I will explain it to you....the bump stock kept him from killing and injuring even more people...you dumb ass. Had he simply fired the rifle without the bump stock he would have kept more bullets going into the crowd, hitting more people...the out of control recoil caused by the bump stock caused the muzzle of the rifle to rise with each burst....that meant bullet flew over the crowd and didn't hit people...you dumb ass.......

Had he simply used a rental truck, like the muslim terrorist in France. he could have killed more people...that muslim terrorist murdered 86 people people, not 60 and wounded 434....

Or, had he simply flow a private plane into the audience he would have killed more...since he also had a private pilots license and the money to rent a plane...

Yeah... and flying planes into people is not legal.
And driving car bombs into people is not legal.
Say what you want, but the Vegas man killed and injured more people than any other mass shooter in history. PERIOD.
I am a staunch supporter of gun rights. But I am not blindly stupid.
50 flying bullets in a wide area is more dangerous than 10.

 

[DrLove]

Yes....in fact, he could have killed more.....he was firing from a concealed and fortified position into a crowd of over 22,000 people, who were trapped in a confined space with limited exits......where the initial attack was masked by the noise of the concert...had he not used the bump stock he would have killed more people and wounded more people....you doofus.

You obviously didn't get the part where the muzzle rise caused by the bump stock forced bullets to completely miss the people in the stadium...bullets that would have killed or wounded more people...you dumb ass.

Obviously he didn't need to be accurate. Any loon can spray bullets from above into a crowd of 22,000 and hit people with nearly every bullet. Your contention is ridiculous. Go surf porn and stroke your barrel.

 

[Flash]

So what control does a military court have over civilian courts? When will that have any effect whatsoever on civilian use of bump stocks? Any day now?

You are confused Moon Bat.

These were three reasonable judges that looked at the evidence and decided that bump stocks were not machine guns.

I am a certified firearms instructor and range officer. I have seen hundreds of bump stocks in use. I have used them myself.

I know more about them than anybody working with the ATF or in any other branch of the filthy government.

They are nothing but a silly ass range toy that has no tactical use whatsoever. They can do rapid fire sometimes when they don't jam but they ain't machine guns by the ATF's own definition.

To ban them because of what that deranged asshole did in Las Vegas is nothing more blatant infringement on the right to keep and bear arms and is despicable.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah... and flying planes into people is not legal.
And driving car bombs into people is not legal.
Say what you want, but the Vegas man killed and injured more people than any other mass shooter in history. PERIOD.
I am a staunch supporter of gun rights. But I am not blindly stupid.
50 flying bullets in a wide area is more dangerous than 10.

Shooting people, from my understanding, is not legal as well...right?

Say what you want, but the Vegas man killed and injured more people than any other mass shooter in history. PERIOD.

But he did not kill more than the muslim terrorist with the rental truck.....rental trucks don't require any form of background check to rent...

Las vegas shooter...60 killed

Muslim Truck run over people...86.

Can you tell which number is bigger?

But I am not blindly stupid.


But you are kinda dumb, for playing along with with a gun grabber and their faux outrage...

He is the only shooter with that count, not because of the bump stock, but because of the target he chose. The bump stock kept him from killing more people. Had he not used the bump stock he likely would have killed and injured even more people.

22,000 people in a tightly packed space, attacked by surprise with loud noise distracting them, with limited exits for the panic that happened is why there were more dead...had he fired into any other venue he wouldn't have been able to hit even that many people..

target choice is the main determinate of how many people the shooter can kill....

 

[2aguy]

Obviously he didn't need to be accurate. Any loon can spray bullets from above into a crowd of 22,000 and hit people with nearly every bullet. Your contention is ridiculous. Go surf porn and stroke your barrel.

No...it isn't, and if you weren't a) stupid, and be b) an unhinged, anti-gun extremist without the common sense of a gnat, you would understand what I posted.......

The muzzle rise caused by the bump stock caused the bullets to miss human beings......you dumb fuck..........

So no....that particular loon did not hit as many people with the bump stock as he could have had he simply fired the rifle normally.....you idiot.

 

[2aguy]

You are confused Moon Bat.

These were three reasonable judges that looked at the evidence and decided that bump stocks were not machine guns.

I am a certified firearms instructor and range officer. I have seen hundreds of bump stocks in use. I have used them myself.

I know more about them than anybody working with the ATF or in any other branch of the filthy government.

They are nothing but a silly ass range toy that has no tactical use whatsoever. They can do rapid fire sometimes when they don't jam but they ain't machine guns by the ATF's own definition.

To ban them because of what that deranged asshole did in Las Vegas is nothing more blatant infringement on the right to keep and bear arms and is despicable.

I will ask this then....

The recoil is caused by the motion of the bolt and the explosion of the gunpowder...does the motion of the bump stock add to that motion? I am thinking that it does.....

 

[westwall]

Bump stocks are amusing toys for the most part. Most people recognize you can't aim whatsoever with one.
Having said that, it can be used to provide devastating mass injury if firing into a crowd as the shooter in Las Vegas did by killing 9 people in under 30 seconds and a total of 58 dead with 411 injuries.
Bump stocks are and should ALWAYS continue to be strictly forbidden.
And I am a gun supporter with 3 guns in my home.

Had the asshole used simple aimed fire he would have killed far more.

The fact he used a bump stock SAVED lives.

But you are ignorant of how guns work so spew ignorant twaddle.

 

[Flash]

Only amateurs like this who want to inflict mass casualties. Tell it to the Paddock and the 60 dead people and 867 injured in Vegas. Then get back to me.

You dumbass Moon Bat

There were significant casualties at Las Vegas because the shooter held the high ground and it was like shooting fish in a barrel.

Since you don't know anything about bump stocks and I do let me explain a few things to you.

According to the police report the bump stocks caused the rifles to jam thus reducing the damage that could have been done.

Given his tactical position he would have been more effective with directed semi auto fire. If you ever would shoot a bump stock you would know that it spews out very inaccurate fire. He missed a lot of targets because he was using the dumbass bump stocks.

He would have inflicted much more damage if he had real F-A fire. Either from legally purchased Class III weapons or by illegally purchased or modified weapons.

He could have bought a legal double tap trigger and it would have put out more accurate and reliable fire power than bump stocks.

The guy was rich so he could have just bought illegal AKs or M-16s on the black market that would have been much more accurate and reliable.

As convoluted as it seems the fact that he chose to use bump stocks probably prevented more deaths than any other choices the nut case could have made.

You stupid uneducated Moon Bats are ignorant of firearms and it is pathetic to see you spout your stupidity.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Shooting people, from my understanding, is not legal as well...right?

Say what you want, but the Vegas man killed and injured more people than any other mass shooter in history. PERIOD.

But he did not kill more than the muslim terrorist with the rental truck.....rental trucks don't require any form of background check to rent...

Las vegas shooter...60 killed

Muslim Truck run over people...86.

Can you tell which number is bigger?

But I am not blindly stupid.


But you are kinda dumb, for playing along with with a gun grabber and their faux outrage...

He is the only shooter with that count, not because of the bump stock, but because of the target he chose. The bump stock kept him from killing more people. Had he not used the bump stock he likely would have killed and injured even more people.

22,000 people in a tightly packed space, attacked by surprise with loud noise distracting them, with limited exits for the panic that happened is why there were more dead...had he fired into any other venue he wouldn't have been able to hit even that many people..

target choice is the main determinate of how many people the shooter can kill....

I don't understand your comparison?
It is a strawman
Nuclear bombs kill more people than grenades. So we should legalize grenades?
What terrorist did with a truck is not related to the guy in Vegas.
There are, and always will be, insane people among us. And bad people.
There would be no need for ANY laws if everyone did only what they are supposed to.
But that isn't the case.