Millions of Trump voters just basically voted to cut their pay.

[francoHFW]

Of course it's W's fault, MORON.

I'm a moron. You leftists are so stupid. You think politicians give a crap about you. Well surprise, they don't

Democrats rely on government dependents. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters. That's why DumBama added more than 20 million on food stamps. That's why he put 20 million on Commie Care. That's 40 million more government dependents than we had before the took office, and that's just two programs alone.

OH! But look at our great economy thanks to Obama! Really? If it's so great, then explain this:

View attachment 100097

Or is it still Bush's fault..........dupe?

ABSOLUTELY. Thanks for the graph, shows exactly how bad W's corrupt DEPRESSION was, and how FS are going down under Obama.

Your link to the 2014 Obama bill/compromise to cut $8 billion was also great. Too bad your brain seems so washed....

Nice graph! Less than 35 million, when the recession ended.
Nearly 46 million after 6 years of Obama recovery.

A record of success only a moron could praise. Oh, there you are.

That's the way corrupt GOP total meltdowns work- fast, and obstructed recoveries- slow. At least no corrupt GOP bubble- I'm guessing they have one planned now...

Smartest President ever lets all his good ideas get obstructed while only passing an $800 billion payoff to his union supporters and the disaster that is, at least for now, Obamacare?

Uppity n****r to the New BS GOP. The stimulus worked great Duhhhhhhhhh. ACA fine. No one said immediate miracle DUHHHHHH. Except the GOP BS propaganda machine, dupes.

 

[francoHFW]

Military is salary you knew it when you went in, did you also demand three meals a day and free housing and all the rest from your private employers?


.

Yeah............and because of it being salaried work, I told myself I would never work for a crappy salary ever again. Know how much I made the year I retired? 36,000/yr.

As far as meals? If you drew COMRATS, you had to pay for your meals in the chow hall.

And exactly where is all that "free" housing? Are you talking about living in the barracks? Yeah, that is "free", but if you live out in town, you get BAQ and VHA to help offset what the rent is for the area you live in, but it's never enough.

which means you were a low skilled and low ranking enlisted, which means your retirement benefits are way more than a comparable civilian who probably would not get any

Really? E-6 over 20 years, who is running the MEPS isn't exactly low skilled or low ranking. Military pay sucks. Anyone who is joining the military for the money is barking up the wrong tree.

And, the way they figure out BAQ and VHA rates is based on a complicated formula that they run every year based on housing rates.

If you have a family of 3? BAQ/VHA/COMRATS will NEVER equal what it costs you to keep them out in town. It has to be supplemented with your regular check.

I never said one should join the military for high pay, I said your was low yet you got a retirement after 20 which is way more than civilians get.

I was a navy nuke, an E6 in that billet also had nuke pay and sea pay when out on a ship. They make way more than 36K. I left an O3 way back in 92 and was making near 60K, must be 80K now.

Only about half of the guys on the ship qualify for consecutive sea duty, and VERY few people are in the nuke program.

Basic E-6, with no pro pay or special pays don't make that much. Like I said, only about 36,000/yr was what I made, and that was WITH 200 bucks a month extra in my check for classifier pro pay.

What was your rank, please?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

GOP b

Because people on UE and Welfare have all that money. We have the most ridiculously expensive post HS education anywhere. Thanks GOP and you dupes....

Oh, it's our fault even though DumBama had all the time in the world to do something about it when he first took office?

Are you going to blame the Republicans for public school being so expensive as well? The United States pays the most per capita of any other industrialized country yet have only mediocre results to show for it.

Of course you're a clueless dupe there too. Obama had 30 DAYS of control in session, and 200 GOP filibusters in his first 2 years. BTW, you can't do much in the middle of a corrupt GOP meltdown. GD Scott Brown.

No, I blame the GOP for our inner cities which bring down the averages.

Obama had 30 DAYS of control in session,

He had huge majorities in the House and Senate. And he was so smart.
Maybe he wasn't all that smart. So few accomplishments.

He only had 60 votes in the Senate for 30 days. Try reality sometime.

He only had 60 votes in the Senate for 30 days.

59 votes in the US Senate is a huge majority, dipwad.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'm a moron. You leftists are so stupid. You think politicians give a crap about you. Well surprise, they don't

Democrats rely on government dependents. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters. That's why DumBama added more than 20 million on food stamps. That's why he put 20 million on Commie Care. That's 40 million more government dependents than we had before the took office, and that's just two programs alone.

OH! But look at our great economy thanks to Obama! Really? If it's so great, then explain this:

View attachment 100097

Or is it still Bush's fault..........dupe?

ABSOLUTELY. Thanks for the graph, shows exactly how bad W's corrupt DEPRESSION was, and how FS are going down under Obama.

Your link to the 2014 Obama bill/compromise to cut $8 billion was also great. Too bad your brain seems so washed....

Nice graph! Less than 35 million, when the recession ended.
Nearly 46 million after 6 years of Obama recovery.

A record of success only a moron could praise. Oh, there you are.

That's the way corrupt GOP total meltdowns work- fast, and obstructed recoveries- slow. At least no corrupt GOP bubble- I'm guessing they have one planned now...

Smartest President ever lets all his good ideas get obstructed while only passing an $800 billion payoff to his union supporters and the disaster that is, at least for now, Obamacare?

Uppity n****r to the New BS GOP. The stimulus worked great Duhhhhhhhhh. ACA fine. No one said immediate miracle DUHHHHHH. Except the GOP BS propaganda machine, dupes.

The stimulus worked great Duhhhhhhhhh

How do you figure that?

ACA fine. No one said immediate miracle

He said every family would save $2500 a year. Didn't happen.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Yeah............and because of it being salaried work, I told myself I would never work for a crappy salary ever again. Know how much I made the year I retired? 36,000/yr.

As far as meals? If you drew COMRATS, you had to pay for your meals in the chow hall.

And exactly where is all that "free" housing? Are you talking about living in the barracks? Yeah, that is "free", but if you live out in town, you get BAQ and VHA to help offset what the rent is for the area you live in, but it's never enough.

which means you were a low skilled and low ranking enlisted, which means your retirement benefits are way more than a comparable civilian who probably would not get any

Really? E-6 over 20 years, who is running the MEPS isn't exactly low skilled or low ranking. Military pay sucks. Anyone who is joining the military for the money is barking up the wrong tree.

And, the way they figure out BAQ and VHA rates is based on a complicated formula that they run every year based on housing rates.

If you have a family of 3? BAQ/VHA/COMRATS will NEVER equal what it costs you to keep them out in town. It has to be supplemented with your regular check.

I never said one should join the military for high pay, I said your was low yet you got a retirement after 20 which is way more than civilians get.

I was a navy nuke, an E6 in that billet also had nuke pay and sea pay when out on a ship. They make way more than 36K. I left an O3 way back in 92 and was making near 60K, must be 80K now.

Only about half of the guys on the ship qualify for consecutive sea duty, and VERY few people are in the nuke program.

Basic E-6, with no pro pay or special pays don't make that much. Like I said, only about 36,000/yr was what I made, and that was WITH 200 bucks a month extra in my check for classifier pro pay.

What was your rank, please?

At the time I retired, I was being paid as an E6 over 21 years, with pro pay for being a classifier at 200 bucks a month, and I made 36,000/yr as per my IRS statement.

 

[francoHFW]

GOP b

Because people on UE and Welfare have all that money. We have the most ridiculously expensive post HS education anywhere. Thanks GOP and you dupes....

Oh, it's our fault even though DumBama had all the time in the world to do something about it when he first took office?

Are you going to blame the Republicans for public school being so expensive as well? The United States pays the most per capita of any other industrialized country yet have only mediocre results to show for it.

Of course you're a clueless dupe there too. Obama had 30 DAYS of control in session, and 200 GOP filibusters in his first 2 years. BTW, you can't do much in the middle of a corrupt GOP meltdown. GD Scott Brown.

No, I blame the GOP for our inner cities which bring down the averages.

Obama had 30 DAYS of control in session,

He had huge majorities in the House and Senate. And he was so smart.
Maybe he wasn't all that smart. So few accomplishments.

He only had 60 votes in the Senate for 30 days. Try reality sometime.

He only had 60 votes in the Senate for 30 days.

59 votes in the US Senate is a huge majority, dipwad.

Not with the racist New BS GOP, stupid.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

GOP b

Oh, it's our fault even though DumBama had all the time in the world to do something about it when he first took office?

Are you going to blame the Republicans for public school being so expensive as well? The United States pays the most per capita of any other industrialized country yet have only mediocre results to show for it.

Of course you're a clueless dupe there too. Obama had 30 DAYS of control in session, and 200 GOP filibusters in his first 2 years. BTW, you can't do much in the middle of a corrupt GOP meltdown. GD Scott Brown.

No, I blame the GOP for our inner cities which bring down the averages.

Obama had 30 DAYS of control in session,

He had huge majorities in the House and Senate. And he was so smart.
Maybe he wasn't all that smart. So few accomplishments.

He only had 60 votes in the Senate for 30 days. Try reality sometime.

He only had 60 votes in the Senate for 30 days.

59 votes in the US Senate is a huge majority, dipwad.

Not with the racist New BS GOP, stupid.

Liberal is unclear on the definition of huge majority?

 

[francoHFW]

GOP b
Of course you're a clueless dupe there too. Obama had 30 DAYS of control in session, and 200 GOP filibusters in his first 2 years. BTW, you can't do much in the middle of a corrupt GOP meltdown. GD Scott Brown.

No, I blame the GOP for our inner cities which bring down the averages.

Obama had 30 DAYS of control in session,

He had huge majorities in the House and Senate. And he was so smart.
Maybe he wasn't all that smart. So few accomplishments.

He only had 60 votes in the Senate for 30 days. Try reality sometime.

He only had 60 votes in the Senate for 30 days.

59 votes in the US Senate is a huge majority, dipwad.

Not with the racist New BS GOP, stupid.

Liberal is unclear on the definition of huge majority?

Dupe doesn't understand "control" when dealing with the "no compromise, un-American TP GOP" -TIME

 

[francoHFW]

ABSOLUTELY. Thanks for the graph, shows exactly how bad W's corrupt DEPRESSION was, and how FS are going down under Obama.

Your link to the 2014 Obama bill/compromise to cut $8 billion was also great. Too bad your brain seems so washed....

Nice graph! Less than 35 million, when the recession ended.
Nearly 46 million after 6 years of Obama recovery.

A record of success only a moron could praise. Oh, there you are.

That's the way corrupt GOP total meltdowns work- fast, and obstructed recoveries- slow. At least no corrupt GOP bubble- I'm guessing they have one planned now...

Smartest President ever lets all his good ideas get obstructed while only passing an $800 billion payoff to his union supporters and the disaster that is, at least for now, Obamacare?

Uppity n****r to the New BS GOP. The stimulus worked great Duhhhhhhhhh. ACA fine. No one said immediate miracle DUHHHHHH. Except the GOP BS propaganda machine, dupes.

The stimulus worked great Duhhhhhhhhh

How do you figure that?

ACA fine. No one said immediate miracle

He said every family would save $2500 a year. Didn't happen.

When up and running DUH, dupe. But already are savings...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Obama had 30 DAYS of control in session,

He had huge majorities in the House and Senate. And he was so smart.
Maybe he wasn't all that smart. So few accomplishments.

He only had 60 votes in the Senate for 30 days. Try reality sometime.

He only had 60 votes in the Senate for 30 days.

59 votes in the US Senate is a huge majority, dipwad.

Not with the racist New BS GOP, stupid.

Liberal is unclear on the definition of huge majority?

Dupe doesn't understand "control" when dealing with the "no compromise, un-American TP GOP" -TIME

59 votes and he was still a failure.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nice graph! Less than 35 million, when the recession ended.
Nearly 46 million after 6 years of Obama recovery.

A record of success only a moron could praise. Oh, there you are.

That's the way corrupt GOP total meltdowns work- fast, and obstructed recoveries- slow. At least no corrupt GOP bubble- I'm guessing they have one planned now...

Smartest President ever lets all his good ideas get obstructed while only passing an $800 billion payoff to his union supporters and the disaster that is, at least for now, Obamacare?

Uppity n****r to the New BS GOP. The stimulus worked great Duhhhhhhhhh. ACA fine. No one said immediate miracle DUHHHHHH. Except the GOP BS propaganda machine, dupes.

The stimulus worked great Duhhhhhhhhh

How do you figure that?

ACA fine. No one said immediate miracle

He said every family would save $2500 a year. Didn't happen.

When up and running DUH, dupe. But already are savings...

It's been 6 years, when is it going to be up and running already?

But already are savings...

Only morons believe that....there you are.

 

[francoHFW]

He only had 60 votes in the Senate for 30 days. Try reality sometime.

He only had 60 votes in the Senate for 30 days.

59 votes in the US Senate is a huge majority, dipwad.

Not with the racist New BS GOP, stupid.

Liberal is unclear on the definition of huge majority?

Dupe doesn't understand "control" when dealing with the "no compromise, un-American TP GOP" -TIME

59 votes and he was still a failure.

and you're a moron...ACA isn't going far, 91 straight months of growth with no bubble, ended our stupidest wars ever, brought back respect for us in the world. Made Trump a Dem again. lol. Meanwhile, you and your brainwashers will go down in history as the biggest disgrace in our history.

 

[francoHFW]

That's the way corrupt GOP total meltdowns work- fast, and obstructed recoveries- slow. At least no corrupt GOP bubble- I'm guessing they have one planned now...

Smartest President ever lets all his good ideas get obstructed while only passing an $800 billion payoff to his union supporters and the disaster that is, at least for now, Obamacare?

Uppity n****r to the New BS GOP. The stimulus worked great Duhhhhhhhhh. ACA fine. No one said immediate miracle DUHHHHHH. Except the GOP BS propaganda machine, dupes.

The stimulus worked great Duhhhhhhhhh

How do you figure that?

ACA fine. No one said immediate miracle

He said every family would save $2500 a year. Didn't happen.

When up and running DUH, dupe. But already are savings...

It's been 6 years, when is it going to be up and running already?

But already are savings...

Only morons believe that....there you are.

You're a functional moron. Keep watching the GOP propaganda machine and getting MORE ignorant. And actually 3 years DUH.

 

[NCC1701]

Military is salary you knew it when you went in, did you also demand three meals a day and free housing and all the rest from your private employers?


.

Yeah............and because of it being salaried work, I told myself I would never work for a crappy salary ever again. Know how much I made the year I retired? 36,000/yr.

As far as meals? If you drew COMRATS, you had to pay for your meals in the chow hall.

And exactly where is all that "free" housing? Are you talking about living in the barracks? Yeah, that is "free", but if you live out in town, you get BAQ and VHA to help offset what the rent is for the area you live in, but it's never enough.

which means you were a low skilled and low ranking enlisted, which means your retirement benefits are way more than a comparable civilian who probably would not get any

Really? E-6 over 20 years, who is running the MEPS isn't exactly low skilled or low ranking. Military pay sucks. Anyone who is joining the military for the money is barking up the wrong tree.

And, the way they figure out BAQ and VHA rates is based on a complicated formula that they run every year based on housing rates.

If you have a family of 3? BAQ/VHA/COMRATS will NEVER equal what it costs you to keep them out in town. It has to be supplemented with your regular check.

I never said one should join the military for high pay, I said your was low yet you got a retirement after 20 which is way more than civilians get.

I was a navy nuke, an E6 in that billet also had nuke pay and sea pay when out on a ship. They make way more than 36K. I left an O3 way back in 92 and was making near 60K, must be 80K now.

Only about half of the guys on the ship qualify for consecutive sea duty, and VERY few people are in the nuke program.

Basic E-6, with no pro pay or special pays don't make that much. Like I said, only about 36,000/yr was what I made, and that was WITH 200 bucks a month extra in my check for classifier pro pay.

I don't know about any other jobs, but all nukes on subs at sea get sea pay, nuke pay, and sub pay. They seemed to do well and some actually hated to go back to shore for the pay cut. Yea there are few in it because it was hard and we worked our asses off, with no requests for overtime pay because we looked at it as a profession.

You had 20 years to do something else. I have no sympathy for anybody that lacks the ambition to leave their job and better themselves unless you truly lacked the talent. I don't want to hear you bitch especially when you did better with retirement than anybody in the civilian world at that salary. I left early and got 0 benefits, how about that?

 

[NCC1701]

Of course it's W's fault, MORON.

I'm a moron. You leftists are so stupid. You think politicians give a crap about you. Well surprise, they don't

Democrats rely on government dependents. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters. That's why DumBama added more than 20 million on food stamps. That's why he put 20 million on Commie Care. That's 40 million more government dependents than we had before the took office, and that's just two programs alone.

OH! But look at our great economy thanks to Obama! Really? If it's so great, then explain this:

View attachment 100097

Or is it still Bush's fault..........dupe?

ABSOLUTELY. Thanks for the graph, shows exactly how bad W's corrupt DEPRESSION was, and how FS are going down under Obama.

Your link to the 2014 Obama bill/compromise to cut $8 billion was also great. Too bad your brain seems so washed....

Nice graph! Less than 35 million, when the recession ended.
Nearly 46 million after 6 years of Obama recovery.

A record of success only a moron could praise. Oh, there you are.

That's the way corrupt GOP total meltdowns work- fast, and obstructed recoveries- slow. At least no corrupt GOP bubble- I'm guessing they have one planned now...

you spew so many lying distortions I can't keep up.

the 1995-2000 conservative led economy came after the GOP revolution in 1994, we don't have anything like that now under Obama, it isn't even a recovery since we have spent $2 in federal debt for every $1 in GDP gain

love your dumb sig line too about stimulus ending in 2010. Stimulus is supposed to be temporary, and no it didn't end, and what is your fucking point if you are boasting about this Obama miracle?

 

[francoHFW]

Of course it's W's fault, MORON.

I'm a moron. You leftists are so stupid. You think politicians give a crap about you. Well surprise, they don't

Democrats rely on government dependents. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters. That's why DumBama added more than 20 million on food stamps. That's why he put 20 million on Commie Care. That's 40 million more government dependents than we had before the took office, and that's just two programs alone.

OH! But look at our great economy thanks to Obama! Really? If it's so great, then explain this:

View attachment 100097

Or is it still Bush's fault..........dupe?

ABSOLUTELY. Thanks for the graph, shows exactly how bad W's corrupt DEPRESSION was, and how FS are going down under Obama.

Your link to the 2014 Obama bill/compromise to cut $8 billion was also great. Too bad your brain seems so washed....

Nice graph! Less than 35 million, when the recession ended.
Nearly 46 million after 6 years of Obama recovery.

A record of success only a moron could praise. Oh, there you are.

That's the way corrupt GOP total meltdowns work- fast, and obstructed recoveries- slow. At least no corrupt GOP bubble- I'm guessing they have one planned now...

you spew so many lying distortions I can't keep up.

the 1995-2000 conservative led economy came after the GOP revolution in 1994, we don't have anything like that now under Obama, it isn't even a recovery since we have spent $2 in federal debt for every $1 in GDP gain

love your dumb sig line too about stimulus ending in 2010. Stimulus is supposed to be temporary, and no it didn't end, and what is your fucking point if you are boasting about this Obama miracle?

The 1995-2000 .com bubble blew in 2000. The W/GOP corrupt real estate bubble blew in 2008. This is no bubble. Of course the stimulus ran out. The point is, Reaganism is wrecking the middle class and country, for 30 years now.

The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.

Over the past 35 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/blog/09/04/27/CongratulationstoEmmanuelSaez/
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb...able=58&Freq=Qtr&FirstYear=2008&LastYear=2010
4 = http://www.prudentbear.com/index.php/household-sector-debt-of-gdp
4 = http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/current/
5/6 = 15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He only had 60 votes in the Senate for 30 days.

59 votes in the US Senate is a huge majority, dipwad.

Not with the racist New BS GOP, stupid.

Liberal is unclear on the definition of huge majority?

Dupe doesn't understand "control" when dealing with the "no compromise, un-American TP GOP" -TIME

59 votes and he was still a failure.

and you're a moron...ACA isn't going far, 91 straight months of growth with no bubble, ended our stupidest wars ever, brought back respect for us in the world. Made Trump a Dem again. lol. Meanwhile, you and your brainwashers will go down in history as the biggest disgrace in our history.

91 straight months of growth with no bubble

Yes, weakest recovery in 70 years....impressive!

ended our stupidest wars ever,

Yeah, good job on that Arab Spring, fucking asshole.

brought back respect for us in the world.

Hilarious!!!

 

[SmokeALib]

Respect around the world - That's some funny shit right there...

 

[francoHFW]

Respect around the world - That's some funny shit right there...

How would you brainwashed functional moron hater dupe Ugly Americans know... Read something...

 

[francoHFW]

Not with the racist New BS GOP, stupid.

Liberal is unclear on the definition of huge majority?

Dupe doesn't understand "control" when dealing with the "no compromise, un-American TP GOP" -TIME

59 votes and he was still a failure.

and you're a moron...ACA isn't going far, 91 straight months of growth with no bubble, ended our stupidest wars ever, brought back respect for us in the world. Made Trump a Dem again. lol. Meanwhile, you and your brainwashers will go down in history as the biggest disgrace in our history.

91 straight months of growth with no bubble

Yes, weakest recovery in 70 years....impressive!

ended our stupidest wars ever,

Yeah, good job on that Arab Spring, fucking asshole.

brought back respect for us in the world.

Hilarious!!!

Worst depression in 70 years. Still going on in much of the world. Like in Arab world. Read something.