Missouri bill to ban all child marriages runs into resistance from House Republicans

[Coyote]

There is something to be said for marrying at a younger age. Primarily a woman's ability to pair bond. With each additional sex partner a woman's ability to pair bond diminishes. With enough of them, it's basically destroyed altogether. Now that's not necessarily related to age per say but rather promiscuity; in this day, and age an average 20 year old girl has a higher body count, than a mafia hit man, practically dooming any chance for a successful marriage.

So…you’ve reduced women to animals in order to justify virginal child marriage. This isn’t going to go well….just saying.

 

[progressive hunter]

I don’t think it is impossible to have such laws, other countries do and just because immigrants practice child marriage is no reason to.

While clearly, some have done well, such as you, tbe statistics overall are not good, much like teen pregnancy and si GLD mothers.

are you saying 17 yr olds arent old enough to get married??

 

[progressive hunter]

So…you’ve reduced women to animals in order to justify virginal child marriage. This isn’t going to go well….just saying.

you want to let them cut their tits off when they are 10,,

 

[Coyote]

…

are you saying 17 yr olds arent old enough to get married??

yes

 

[Coyote]

you want to let them cut their tits off when they are 10,,

That is twice you’ve mentioned that. Is there something you aren’t telling us?

 

[progressive hunter]

…

yes

but a 10 yr old can determine their own gender and under go chemical castration and genital mutilation,,

I see a problem here,,

you know it wasnt so long ago getting married at 15 or even younger was the common thing to do,

 

[progressive hunter]

That is twice you’ve mentioned that. Is there something you aren’t telling us?

yeah that you have things backwards,,

 

[Coyote]

but a 10 yr old can determine their own gender and under go chemical castration and genital mutilation,,

Where?

I see a problem here,,

you know it wasnt so long ago getting married at 15 or even younger was the common thing to do,

Yes. So was child labor.

So what?

 

[initforme]

Young people in their teens or 20s have no business getting married

 

[progressive hunter]

Where?



Yes. So was child labor.

So what?

dont play ignorant with me,, you know damn good and well what I am talking about,,


what if the 17 yr old is pregnant and wants to get married??

 

[justoffal]

Hmmm....this seems a no-brainer, protecting youth from both adult predators and the consequences of poor decisions resulting in getting married too young, often leaving the state holding the bag regarding finances and minor children. Yet, some of the Republicans in Missouri oppose it?
Their logic seems flawed. They trot out some successful early marriages, a minority---and ignore the negative consequences--the majority.

View attachment 944689
Missouri Republican state representative Dean Van Schoiak (Image: Facebook / Dean VanSchoiak)

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article288424893.html

A bipartisan bill that would outlaw all child marriages in Missouri has run into resistance from Republicans in the Missouri House that could prevent it from becoming law. The legislation, filed by Sen. Holly Thompson Rehder, a Scott City Republican, and Sen. Lauren Arthur, a Kansas City Democrat, would prohibit anyone under 18 from obtaining a marriage license. Current law allows 16 and 17-year-olds to get married with parental consent. The GOP-controlled state Senate approved the bill on a nearly unanimous vote of 31 to 1 last month. But the legislation has since stalled in a House committee with just more than a week left in this year’s legislative session which ends on May 17.

Supporters of the bill say the opposition illustrates some lawmakers’ extreme and archaic views on marriage. Missouri previously had one of the nation’s most lenient laws surrounding child marriage and the state’s current law has been criticized as a loophole that leaves thousands of teenagers open to abuse and exploitation. “Any explanation used to justify opposition is nothing more than, you know, an excuse to protect predators,” Arthur said in an interview. The committee’s chair, Rep. Jim Murphy, a St. Louis-area Republican, said in an interview that there aren’t enough votes within the committee to get it to the House floor. Seven of the 14 committee members oppose the legislation and disagree with raising the state’s marriage age, he said. “It’s on the…going 16 to 18,” Murphy, who supports the bill, said of the opposition. “There’s just enough members in that committee that don’t think that’s a good idea.”

One of those lawmakers is Rep. Dean Van Schoiack, a Savannah Republican and vice chair of the committee. Van Schoiack said in an interview that he knows people who got married as minors, including a woman at roughly age 17. The couple, he said, is “still madly in love with each other.” “Why is the government getting involved in people’s lives like this?” Van Schoiak said. “What purpose do we have in deciding that a couple who are 16 or 17 years old, their parents say, you know, ‘you guys love each other, go ahead and get married, you have my permission.’ Why would we stop that?”

Rehder, who is running for lieutenant governor, pushed back in an interview. “The government does tell people when they can get married because we do have an age limit right now,” she said. “The fact that he feels that it’s okay for a parent to make a decision for a child, that is a lifetime decision, is offensive.” The legislation is personal for Rehder, who was married at age 15 to her 21-year-old boyfriend in 1984. A year earlier, her sister, at age 16, married her 39-year-old drug dealer, she has said. “As a child that did get married,” she said, “I would say I have a lot more insight to this issue than what he does.”

Well fed fellow eh?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

A child of 14 can decide to be surgically mutilated. A 14,year old girl can be pro choice and kill her baby. But 14 isn't mature enough to decide to get married.

Not only does this make no sense, it's absurd.

 

[justoffal]

Young people in their teens or 20s have no business getting married

The left wants them to be thoroughly and properly molested first.

 

[Coyote]

dont play ignorant with me,, you know damn good and well what I am talking about,,

Actually, I don’t. I suspect it does not happen or it is so rare, it is classified as a statistical outlier.

what if the 17 yr old is pregnant and wants to get married??

If she wants to get an abortion can she? Is this a shotgun wedding? Any reason she can’t wait one year and finish school? Is her family disowning her? Kicking her out?

Should a pregnant 12 year old get married?

 

[justoffal]

dont play ignorant with me,, you know damn good and well what I am talking about,,


what if the 17 yr old is pregnant and wants to get married??

Abort them both!

 

[EvilCat Breath]

dont play ignorant with me,, you know damn good and well what I am talking about,,


what if the 17 yr old is pregnant and wants to get married??

What if the 17 year old is pregnant, refuses an abortion and her and the father want to get married?

 

[progressive hunter]

A child of 14 can decide to be surgically mutilated. A 14,year old girl can be pro choice and kill her baby. But 14 isn't mature enough to decide to get married.

Not only does this make no sense, it's absurd.

uts worse,,

they think a 8 yr old can choose to chemically castrate themselves but a 17 yr oldpregnant girl cant get married but she can have an abortion

 

[Coyote]

…

A child of 14 can decide to be surgically mutilated.

I would say that should not be allowed and in most places it is not.

A 14,year old girl can be pro choice and kill her baby. But 14 isn't mature enough to decide to get married.

NO 14 yr old should be forced to carry a pregnancy against her will.

Pregnancy is not necessarily a sign of maturity.

Not only does this make no sense, it's absurd.

 

[progressive hunter]

…


I would say that should not be allowed and in most places it is not.



NO 14 yr old should be forced to carry a pregnancy against her will.

Pregnancy is not necessarily a sign of maturity.

if she pregnant that decision has already been made,,

 

[Coyote]

What if the 17 year old is pregnant, refuses an abortion and her and the father want to get married?

Wait a year or become an emancipated minor.

What if a 14 yr old is pregnant and she and the father want to get married!

How about a 12 yr old?

At what age do you draw a line and why?