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"Here are times when consensus was wrong"
Neato. Now post the times it was right.
Anyhoo, I am not arguing from the consensus. So this means nothing anyway. The consensus is a symptom.
And some are stronger than others, and often there isn't any consensus.
So what? The consensus follows the evidence. Not vice versa.
IPCC is that collection of evidence. Unless you know of a secret one.
So now your claim is that the IPCC is collectively committing academic, intellectual and actual, criminal fraud.The IPPC is run by Governments of the world who has a vested interest in easily compliant people like YOU to screw over.
What a retarded non sequitur, unrelated to a word of what I actually said. Pathetic.
All doubters are free to mount a challenge. Fouth time, ya weasel.
Fifth time:Like I say you continuously show that you know not dam thing about how good science research is done hell being skeptical about their own work is healthy as it invites others to examine the work more fully.
The Scientific Method tells us:
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The scientific method
At the core of biology and other sciences lies a problem-solving approach called the scientific method. The scientific method has five basic steps, plus one feedback step:
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- Make an observation.
- Ask a question.
- Form a hypothesis, or testable explanation.
- Make a prediction based on the hypothesis.
- Test the prediction.
- Iterate: use the results to make new hypotheses or predictions.
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No consensus step in it just sees if it can be made reproducible by others when it is published.
It is at least a twostep process.
Soylent GREEN was about OVERPOPULATION...................Charlton Heston filmed a mockumentary about climate change back in 1973 called Soylent Green ... you're 50 years behind the rest of us ...
I just watch CBS claim that the Desert Southwest was becoming a desert due to global warming ... ha ha ... it's already a desert ... it's major disaster for Phoenix if their climate stays the same ... and I agree ... burn them tires ... help Phoenix ...
So now your claim is that the IPCC is collectively committing academic, intellectual and actual, criminal fraud.
Does it get any more desperate? Calling it an argument from ignorance is an insult to argument from ignorance.
"The IPPC is run by Governments of the world who has a vested interest in easily compliant people like YOU to screw over."
It becomes no longer science, first and foremost. That's what science is. You put your hypothesis to the test. You look for failures in your own methods, scrutinize your own data. Because that's exactly what everyone else is going to do, before and after you publish.With the absence of doubt, science becomes religion.
From what I've seen, the MMGW crowd can't seem to grasp the scientific fact that correlation is not necessarily causation. No one can be absolutely certain that mankind's activities are the primary driver of climate change. Considering this fact, I suggest that those who abhor greenhouse gasses discontinue doing things that contribute to them, like using power and driving cars. Those who are skeptical of mankind's effects can just keep living their lives. If there is one thing man has done to be the alpha species on Earth, it's our ability to adapt to our environment or adapt our environment to our needs. We'll be just fine.It becomes no longer science, first and foremost. That's what science is. You put your hypothesis to the test. You look for failures in your own methods, scrutinize your own data. Because that's exactly what everyone else is going to do, before and after you publish.
You don't bleat and wail like a stuck boar on a message board and call the IPPC incompetent frauds. That isn't doubt. That is the death knell of defeat.
See above.
From what I've seen, the MMGW crowd can't seem to grasp the scientific fact that correlation is not necessarily causation. No one can be absolutely certain that mankind's activities are the primary driver of climate change. Considering this fact, I suggest that those who abhor greenhouse gasses discontinue doing things that contribute to them, like using power and driving cars. Those who are skeptical of mankind's effects can just keep living their lives. If there is one thing man has done to be the alpha species on Earth, it's our ability to adapt to our environment or adapt our environment to our needs. We'll be just fine.
Trying to squelch the progress of science by arguing the science is settled is the antithesis of science.The argument made from ignorance may be honestly ignorant, but that kind of patience is for children. A scientist would refer him to the published literature, instantly knowing the argument from ignorance. They aren't going to clear their schedule and sit down and teach for free. Sorry.
And yes, they would likely think a bit less of a scientist who makes claims against the preponderance of evidence. Again, sorry. It is what it is.
There have been no laboratory experiments quantifying the associated temperature of CO2.Absolutely! Go do some research! That's what experiments are and what most research is.
That is also what a challenge to accepted theory is. Not a blog, or a paid speaking event, or a blathering rant on USMB by an uneducated slob.
Judith has had a successful challenge, as I recall. She is invied to challenge. But she's one- or two-fer eleventy zillion and has not really touched the body of science.
The publishers of the study she found a flawed method in retracted, thanked her, and re-published.
What did Lindzen do when his mountain of bad science was exposed? Hissy fit. After hissy fit. Went on a world crybaby tour. Claimed oppression and conspiracy to explain it. Still does.
From what I've seen, the MMGW crowd can't seem to grasp the scientific fact that correlation is not necessarily causation.
No one can be absolutely certain that mankind's activities are the primary driver of climate change.
Considering this fact, I suggest that those who abhor greenhouse gasses discontinue doing things that contribute to them, like using power and driving cars. Those who are skeptical of mankind's effects can just keep living their lives.
If there is one thing man has done to be the alpha species on Earth, it's our ability to adapt to our environment or adapt our environment to our needs. We'll be just fine.
Soylent GREEN was about OVERPOPULATION...................
Already did. You changed your name in shame.
Soylent Green didn't kill off all the humans. It was just suggesting the extraordinary measures that might be necessary to take care of everyone in such a situation. And I'm kind of wondering what this has to do with Lindzen and AGW theory?Watch it again ... overpopulation and climate change ... the oceans were too hot to support the phytoplankton, as well as humans eating it all ... what sort of MORON believes one or the other could cause catastrophe? ... it takes BOTH to kill us all off ...
Great.That isn't proof. But you aren't sharp enough to know that.
I'm here. Why don't YOU tell us some geology. I've done far more than you have on this forum.
You are just a troll. You are nothing.
Prove me wrong.
Great.
Tell us why the planet transitioned from a greenhouse gas to an icehouse planet ~3 million years ago (hint: it involves geology)?
Tell us why orbital cycles produced extensive northern hemisphere glaciation only within the last million years (hint: it involves geology)?
Holy cow, you still don't get it, do you? Polar regions being isolated from warmer marine currents and cooling temperatures.Yes we understand this is literally the ONLY thing you know about geology. I have already discussed this with you NUMEROUS TIMES. If you cannot pay attention I'm not going to continue.
-sigh- Like you know any geology. LOL.
I will assume (not that you will know) that you are referring to the Mid Pleistocene Transition. As you don't know the Milankovich Cycles have been drivers for warm-cold cycles on earth for millions of years, but the MPT marked a change. POssibly due to changes in ocean currents moving heat around the globe. Specifically the slowdown of the AMOC (something that could easily happen today due to climate change and rapid melting of freshwater ice sheets in Greenland dumping lower density water into the upper arch of the AMOC).
To my knowledge this is not yet a proven event, the article by Yehudai et al is from 2021. Not like you know anything about this. But it is interesting because with global warming from humans causing accelerating ice loss from places like Greenland (remember, even by your simplistic understanding of geology we SHOULD be going back into another massive glaciation...but we AREN'T) is a great example of an economic disaster in the making due to climate change.
You think you have some insight about AGW because you latched onto something related to ocean currents which you don't understand, not realizing that it is very much a related topic that shows the DANGERS of AGW.
I don't want to bore you with how ocean currents work, you wouldn't understand it. I had the pleasure of being on a research cruise in the NOrth Atlantic decades ago. We were actually tracking the NADW (North Atlantic Deep Water) overturning by tracing water to find out how long ago it interacted with the surface. I am not an oceanographer so I was not at ease on the ship but it was a great learning experience about how complex the ocean currents and heat budgets as well as thermo-haline circulation.
Obviously I don't expect you to have any technical response here because you are just trolling and a know-nothing in terms of earth science. But you might surprise me. I won't hold my breath.
So go away, Troll. You have nothing. You just have "questions" which you use to hide you astounding ignorance of these topics.
Actually you haven't.Yes we understand this is literally the ONLY thing you know about geology. I have already discussed this with you NUMEROUS TIMES. If you cannot pay attention I'm not going to continue.
