Mixed couple forced to flee country after appearing in ad

Humans are into all kinds of perversions. You seem to need excuses and have no standards except violating traditional boundries

Slavery was a traditional boundary.
burning witches was a traditional boundary
Not having sex with someone outside your own race (the subject of this thread) was a traditional boundary.

Until someone decided they weren't.
 
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You are one sick racist. Who in the hell are YOU to say that Ireland is not the homeland of either one? You don't have that right. People of different racial backgrounds having relationships does not involve anything that could be classified as "sin." The current Taoiseach of the Republic, is a Catholic born in Dublin to a Catholic mother and a Hindu father. Where did you get the notion that accepting other people equates to hating one's own race, history, and heritage? You sound like you are raising your kids to be as sick as yourself.

I think Odium is a troll pretending to be a racist just to see if he can get a rise out of people.
Nah. He's a legitimate racist.
 
If anyone claims Christianity on this thread and believes what this couple did was wrong--that's an outrage and a sin. It doesn't matter that some Christians got it wrong before. It's still wrong now. Christianity is NOT a religion of races; it's a religion of individuals, and thank God for it. We are all, every one of us, made in the image of God. It is sin to look at any creation of God--most especially a human creation--and deride it as lesser.

If you are not Christian---

You can piddle around with "this race is better or that race is better", but what does it matter? It's like a preference for ice cream flavors that you set in the blazing sun. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. What is "better"? You're all headed for destruction at any rate. So have at it, I guess--it's all pointless, so much "Chasing after the wind"

You might want to start teaching that in your church. Because what racism is built upon is whites believing they had to show the rest of us the one and only true God. And of course whites were the only ones who had this knowledge. And you see that same sentiment taught in evangelical churches today pertaining to Muslims.

God has revealed himself to all races. Native Americans call him the great spirit but to whites that came over here that was not the correct name. Muslims call the creator Allah. The number 1 belief is there is no other God but Allah. Evangelicals see 2 different gods in this sentence instead of recognizing that Muslims are say there is but one God.

Fundamentalists in both religions argue about whose god is THE God. So if you go to Mexico and ask for a bottle of water, they'll tell you the agua is in the cooler. If we acted like religious fundamentalists we would stay thirsty because we want water, not agua. And we need to learn that only 1 creator exists and that he is the creator whether you call him god or allah. For if you read what is taught in the texts of the worlds major religions, the basic rules of life are the same. And when we figure that out, race will no longer be an issue.

Hmmm. Funny thing. Jesus Christ wasn't white.

Rejected
No Jesus wasn't white. But whites in Europe made him white. And whites used Christianity as an excuse to enslave and colonize. Your rejection doesn't change this fact.

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Out of the more than three quarters of a million words in the Bible, Christian slaveholders—and, if asked, most slaveholders would have defined themselves as Christian—had two favorites texts, one from the beginning of the Old Testament and the other from the end of the New Testament. In the words of the King James Bible, which was the version then current, these were, first, Genesis IX, 18–27:

“And the sons of Noah that went forth from the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan. These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole world overspread. And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: and he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years.”

Despite some problems with this story—What was so terrible about seeing Noah drunk? Why curse Canaan rather than Ham? How long was the servitude to last? Surely Ham would have been the same color as his brothers?—it eventually became the foundational text for those who wanted to justify slavery on Biblical grounds. In its boiled-down, popular version, known as “The Curse of Ham,” Canaan was dropped from the story, Ham was made black, and his descendants were made Africans.

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery
BBC - Religions - Christianity: Atlantic slave trade and abolition
Reunion Black Family.
Christianity and Black Slavery - Christian Research Institute

From the time Europeans arrived on American shores, the frontier—the edge territory between white man’s civilization and the untamed natural world—became a shared space of vast, clashing differences that led the U.S. government to authorize over 1,500 wars, attacks and raids on Indians, the most of any country in the world against its indigenous people. By the close of the Indian Wars in the late 19th century, fewer than 238,000 indigenous people remained, a sharp decline from the estimated 5 million to 15 million living in North America when Columbus arrived in 1492.

The reasons for this racial genocide were multi-layered. Settlers, most of whom had been barred from inheriting property in Europe, arrived on American shores hungry for Indian land—and the abundant natural resources that came with it. Indians’ collusion with the British during the American Revolution and the War of 1812 exacerbated American hostility and suspicion toward them.

Even more fundamentally, indigenous people were just too different: Their skin was dark. Their languages were foreign. And their world views and spiritual beliefs were beyond most white men’s comprehension. To settlers fearful that a loved one might become the next Mary Campbell, all this stoked racial hatred and paranoia, making it easy to paint indigenous peoples as pagan savages who must be killed in the name of civilization and Christianity.

https://www.history.com/news/native-americans-genocide-united-states
https://nativeamericanchurches.org/the-collision-of-christianity-and-american-native-spirituality/

It is past time for evangelicals to express remorse and regret to Native Americans for the mistreatment they experienced at the hands of Christians throughout the history of the nation. Although President Obama signed a resolution of apology in 2009 on behalf of the nation, evangelical groups should also follow suit.

It is a sad fact of American history that Christianity, at times, conspired with the government to colonize and nearly eradicate a proud and free people. Sadly, in the present, those wounds have been reopened by a representative of that same belief system, in effect, blaming the native people for their demise. In February, Bryan Fischer, Issues Analyst for the American Family Association wrote on the AFA website that Native Americans were "morally disqualified from sovereign control of American soil" because of "superstition, savagery and sexual immorality."

Should Evangelicals Apologize to Native Americans?
A "Christian" Defense of Genocide? David Barton's Justification of the Devastation of Native Americans – Red Letter Christians

When the Europeans came to colonize Africa, they did not just do that with the force they meted on Africans. Colonization was expedited by the use of religion, and in particular, Christianity. As of now, most Africans identify themselves as Christians, and many as Muslims. It seems Christianity has done the most in affecting the conscience of the black person in Africa. African traditional religions have been washed away, and especially with Christianity, they are viewed as pagan and heathen in nature.

While everyone is entitled to their religion, it is the same religion which has shaped Africa's history especially with the advent of imperialism and colonialism upon which it was built. Christianity achieved a major thing in Africa: to teach the black Africans to forsake all their traditions and to facilitate colonialism. The African was taught to abhor everything African and to accept a new way of living, a new way of life, a new order that alienated them from who they originally were.

Christianity was subtly intertwined with the agenda of the West. They viewed Africans as backward, barbaric and uncivilized. So their mission was to "civilize" the African. Something which they achieved with a great degree of success. Christianity was the religion of the Westerners. And it is obvious the missionaries had Western values embedded in them. So what happened was a situation where the Africans were taught to hate everything African and to accept the European way of living.

The early Christian missionaries and missionaries worked hand in hand with the colonizers. At most times, the missionaries were sent to negotiate treaties that would put the Africans under subjugation. The Bible followed the gun. And thus, the influence of Christianity in the colonization process had a devastating effect on the Africans.

https://www.africanexponent.com/pos...used-to-exploit-africans-through-colonization
Christianity and colonialism - Wikipedia
Role of Missionaries in Colonization of Africans - Global Black History

You cannot reject the truth.

Not gonna read all this, still stuck on "Allah and the Christian God" are the same God.

No they're not, and that has nothing to do with racism.

Of course, I could say the grass is green and you'd say that's racist
 
Not gonna read all this, still stuck on "Allah and the Christian God" are the same God.

No they're not, and that has nothing to do with racism.

Of course, I could say the grass is green and you'd say that's racist

Um, yeah, they are... They are the same God who told Abraham to be an intolerant asshole.
 
Not gonna read all this, still stuck on "Allah and the Christian God" are the same God.

No they're not, and that has nothing to do with racism.

Of course, I could say the grass is green and you'd say that's racist

Um, yeah, they are... They are the same God who told Abraham to be an intolerant asshole.

You're stupid, Joe.

Allah is monotheistic.

the Christian God is a Trinity
 
You're stupid, Joe.

Allah is monotheistic.

the Christian God is a Trinity

Right... um, that's kind of nuts, really. Are they one person or three people?

So you worship a schizophrenic God who thinks he's his own son? How does that make any sense?
 
If anyone claims Christianity on this thread and believes what this couple did was wrong--that's an outrage and a sin. It doesn't matter that some Christians got it wrong before. It's still wrong now. Christianity is NOT a religion of races; it's a religion of individuals, and thank God for it. We are all, every one of us, made in the image of God. It is sin to look at any creation of God--most especially a human creation--and deride it as lesser.

If you are not Christian---

You can piddle around with "this race is better or that race is better", but what does it matter? It's like a preference for ice cream flavors that you set in the blazing sun. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. What is "better"? You're all headed for destruction at any rate. So have at it, I guess--it's all pointless, so much "Chasing after the wind"

You might want to start teaching that in your church. Because what racism is built upon is whites believing they had to show the rest of us the one and only true God. And of course whites were the only ones who had this knowledge. And you see that same sentiment taught in evangelical churches today pertaining to Muslims.

God has revealed himself to all races. Native Americans call him the great spirit but to whites that came over here that was not the correct name. Muslims call the creator Allah. The number 1 belief is there is no other God but Allah. Evangelicals see 2 different gods in this sentence instead of recognizing that Muslims are say there is but one God.

Fundamentalists in both religions argue about whose god is THE God. So if you go to Mexico and ask for a bottle of water, they'll tell you the agua is in the cooler. If we acted like religious fundamentalists we would stay thirsty because we want water, not agua. And we need to learn that only 1 creator exists and that he is the creator whether you call him god or allah. For if you read what is taught in the texts of the worlds major religions, the basic rules of life are the same. And when we figure that out, race will no longer be an issue.

Hmmm. Funny thing. Jesus Christ wasn't white.

Rejected
No Jesus wasn't white. But whites in Europe made him white. And whites used Christianity as an excuse to enslave and colonize. Your rejection doesn't change this fact.

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Out of the more than three quarters of a million words in the Bible, Christian slaveholders—and, if asked, most slaveholders would have defined themselves as Christian—had two favorites texts, one from the beginning of the Old Testament and the other from the end of the New Testament. In the words of the King James Bible, which was the version then current, these were, first, Genesis IX, 18–27:

“And the sons of Noah that went forth from the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan. These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole world overspread. And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: and he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years.”

Despite some problems with this story—What was so terrible about seeing Noah drunk? Why curse Canaan rather than Ham? How long was the servitude to last? Surely Ham would have been the same color as his brothers?—it eventually became the foundational text for those who wanted to justify slavery on Biblical grounds. In its boiled-down, popular version, known as “The Curse of Ham,” Canaan was dropped from the story, Ham was made black, and his descendants were made Africans.

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery
BBC - Religions - Christianity: Atlantic slave trade and abolition
Reunion Black Family.
Christianity and Black Slavery - Christian Research Institute

From the time Europeans arrived on American shores, the frontier—the edge territory between white man’s civilization and the untamed natural world—became a shared space of vast, clashing differences that led the U.S. government to authorize over 1,500 wars, attacks and raids on Indians, the most of any country in the world against its indigenous people. By the close of the Indian Wars in the late 19th century, fewer than 238,000 indigenous people remained, a sharp decline from the estimated 5 million to 15 million living in North America when Columbus arrived in 1492.

The reasons for this racial genocide were multi-layered. Settlers, most of whom had been barred from inheriting property in Europe, arrived on American shores hungry for Indian land—and the abundant natural resources that came with it. Indians’ collusion with the British during the American Revolution and the War of 1812 exacerbated American hostility and suspicion toward them.

Even more fundamentally, indigenous people were just too different: Their skin was dark. Their languages were foreign. And their world views and spiritual beliefs were beyond most white men’s comprehension. To settlers fearful that a loved one might become the next Mary Campbell, all this stoked racial hatred and paranoia, making it easy to paint indigenous peoples as pagan savages who must be killed in the name of civilization and Christianity.

https://www.history.com/news/native-americans-genocide-united-states
https://nativeamericanchurches.org/the-collision-of-christianity-and-american-native-spirituality/

It is past time for evangelicals to express remorse and regret to Native Americans for the mistreatment they experienced at the hands of Christians throughout the history of the nation. Although President Obama signed a resolution of apology in 2009 on behalf of the nation, evangelical groups should also follow suit.

It is a sad fact of American history that Christianity, at times, conspired with the government to colonize and nearly eradicate a proud and free people. Sadly, in the present, those wounds have been reopened by a representative of that same belief system, in effect, blaming the native people for their demise. In February, Bryan Fischer, Issues Analyst for the American Family Association wrote on the AFA website that Native Americans were "morally disqualified from sovereign control of American soil" because of "superstition, savagery and sexual immorality."

Should Evangelicals Apologize to Native Americans?
A "Christian" Defense of Genocide? David Barton's Justification of the Devastation of Native Americans – Red Letter Christians

When the Europeans came to colonize Africa, they did not just do that with the force they meted on Africans. Colonization was expedited by the use of religion, and in particular, Christianity. As of now, most Africans identify themselves as Christians, and many as Muslims. It seems Christianity has done the most in affecting the conscience of the black person in Africa. African traditional religions have been washed away, and especially with Christianity, they are viewed as pagan and heathen in nature.

While everyone is entitled to their religion, it is the same religion which has shaped Africa's history especially with the advent of imperialism and colonialism upon which it was built. Christianity achieved a major thing in Africa: to teach the black Africans to forsake all their traditions and to facilitate colonialism. The African was taught to abhor everything African and to accept a new way of living, a new way of life, a new order that alienated them from who they originally were.

Christianity was subtly intertwined with the agenda of the West. They viewed Africans as backward, barbaric and uncivilized. So their mission was to "civilize" the African. Something which they achieved with a great degree of success. Christianity was the religion of the Westerners. And it is obvious the missionaries had Western values embedded in them. So what happened was a situation where the Africans were taught to hate everything African and to accept the European way of living.

The early Christian missionaries and missionaries worked hand in hand with the colonizers. At most times, the missionaries were sent to negotiate treaties that would put the Africans under subjugation. The Bible followed the gun. And thus, the influence of Christianity in the colonization process had a devastating effect on the Africans.

https://www.africanexponent.com/pos...used-to-exploit-africans-through-colonization
Christianity and colonialism - Wikipedia
Role of Missionaries in Colonization of Africans - Global Black History

You cannot reject the truth.

Not gonna read all this, still stuck on "Allah and the Christian God" are the same God.

No they're not, and that has nothing to do with racism.

Of course, I could say the grass is green and you'd say that's racist

Allah is God and God is Allah. Hopefully one day you figure that out. I expected you to run from the truth Sue. That's what the author of lies does to people like you. And the thing is that Satan grabbed you so smoothly that you think your excuse makes sense. You reject what I said. I provided evidence that can't be rejected and instead of facing the truth, Satan made you turn from it.. If you said the grass is green, I would agree because grass is green as long as it gets what it needs to live. Now that statement is what sane people call a true statement or the truth. In order for me to say something is racist, it is because the comment or belief would actually be racist. You have beliefs that are racist Sue. You're not a fanatic white neo Nazi like Odium but you've got issues.
 
You're stupid, Joe.

Allah is monotheistic.

the Christian God is a Trinity

Right... um, that's kind of nuts, really. Are they one person or three people?

So you worship a schizophrenic God who thinks he's his own son? How does that make any sense?

Sue knows nothing about Allah. Her right wing xenophobic pastor tells het what Allah is and she doesn't question.

My father was a preacher. He was a very spiritual man who loved the lord. And what I learned from him was that the preacher is not infallible and that we each are responsible for our spiritual education. Sue is lacking in that regard, but life is our spiritual training and each person who chooses to learn will learn the complete truth as god gives it to them.
 
Mixed-race couple forced to flee country after appearing in ad

BAHAHA! Burn the coal,pay the toll! It is so damn refreshing to see Irish folks not completely falling for the cultural marxist propaganda to destroy their beautiful and historic bloodlines!


I'm surprised that an Irish retailer wouldn't know their own customers enough not to run an ad that would offend them this much.

I wonder if they would have received this kind of backlash of negativity 30 or 40 years ago before massive immigration started over there.

In any event, this isn't America, but any business needs to know what will offend their own customers. In order to avoid rioting, for example, places like McDonald's don't serve beef hamburgers in Bombay. The Indian people believe that Cows are actually almighty gods who are superior to humans.
 
In any event, this isn't America, but any business needs to know what will offend their own customers. In order to avoid rioting, for example, places like McDonald's don't serve beef hamburgers in Bombay. The Indian people believe that Cows are actually almighty gods who are superior to humans.

No, they don't. Between Sue's ignorance of Islam and your ignorance of Hinduism, I'm not sure what to do with you people.
 
Allah is God and God is Allah. Hopefully one day you figure that out. I expected you to run from the truth Sue. That's what the author of lies does to people like you.


Not true at all.

Allah is the god of the muslims, much like Zeus is god for the ancient Greeks and Ganeesh is god for the Asian Indian people.

For Christians, of course, Almighty God is believed to be God.

To equivalate these various individuals and say they are the same is sort of disrespectful iMHo.
 
You're stupid, Joe.

Allah is monotheistic.

the Christian God is a Trinity

Right... um, that's kind of nuts, really. Are they one person or three people?

So you worship a schizophrenic God who thinks he's his own son? How does that make any sense?

Sue knows nothing about Allah. Her right wing xenophobic pastor tells het what Allah is and she doesn't question.

My father was a preacher. He was a very spiritual man who loved the lord. And what I learned from him was that the preacher is not infallible and that we each are responsible for our spiritual education. Sue is lacking in that regard, but life is our spiritual training and each person who chooses to learn will learn the complete truth as god gives it to them.

Allah is monotheistic. I don't need any pastor to tell me that. It is in the Koran, chapter 112.

All your agitating is not going to change that
 
In any event, this isn't America, but any business needs to know what will offend their own customers. In order to avoid rioting, for example, places like McDonald's don't serve beef hamburgers in Bombay. The Indian people believe that Cows are actually almighty gods who are superior to humans.

No, they don't. Between Sue's ignorance of Islam and your ignorance of Hinduism, I'm not sure what to do with you people.

How 'bout you leave the board and leave us alone
 
In any event, this isn't America, but any business needs to know what will offend their own customers. In order to avoid rioting, for example, places like McDonald's don't serve beef hamburgers in Bombay. The Indian people believe that Cows are actually almighty gods who are superior to humans.

No, they don't. Between Sue's ignorance of Islam and your ignorance of Hinduism, I'm not sure what to do with you people.


I think I know a little bit more about Hinduism than you do. I know enough not to offend the practitioners of that religion by walking through the streets of Calcutta with leather shoes. Not only is using the hide of their almighty god-the cow- offensive to them and likely to get you killed- you don't want to ruin the shoes by stepping in the cow crap on the streets and sidewalks. Calcutta is just like San Francisco, except in Frisco its people defecating in the streets, not cattle.
 
Not true at all.

Allah is the god of the muslims, much like Zeus is god for the ancient Greeks and Ganeesh is god for the Asian Indian people.

For Christians, of course, Almighty God is believed to be God.

To equivalate these various individuals and say they are the same is sort of disrespectful iMHo.

"My Imaginary Sky Pixie can beat up your Imaginary Sky Pixie!!!"
 

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