More Proof the skeptics are WINNING!!

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Billy..........check this out........what a joke.......without tax credits, this bogus energy source ( solar ) dies............growth of solar to slow down big time between '17-'19 >>

Solar power is still growing rapidly — but it's about to hit a big speed bump

Unless Congress decides to extend this tax credit — and many Republicans aren't too thrilled with that idea — it's set to lapse on January 1, 2017. At that point, it will drop to 10 percent for utilities and commercial installers, and disappear entirely for residential solar.

Yep! once the freebie dies so does the industry.. Let the tax credit die!



Since the HOUSE will be red for another 5 years at least, ( thanks to redistricting :funnyface::funnyface::rock:) solar development will be falling like a stone in water after next year for quite some time!!! And I couldn't be happier!!!:coffee:
 
More AGW k00k losing................

And more fodder that these climate change scientists are not real scientists at all...........certainly Einstein would agree!!

Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics


When the bomb throwing gets hysterical..........you know these people feel like they are walking on a glass floor these days!!! Skeptic winning..........:2up::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:
 
And how are all these papers now undone and deficient..?? They all acknowledged the pause.

Dr. Judith L. Lean – Geophysical Research Letters – 15 Aug 2009
“…This lack of overall warming is analogous to the period from 2002 to 2008 when decreasing solar irradiance also countered much of the anthropogenic warming…”
doi:10.1029/2009GL038932
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Prof. Shaowu Wang et al – Advances in Climate Change Research – 2010
Does the Global Warming Pause in the Last Decade: 1999-2008?
“…The decade of 1999-2008 is still the warmest of the last 30 years, though the global temperature increment is near zero;….The models did not provide answers to the physical causes for warming pause. The mechanism still remains controversial….”
doi:10.3724/SP.J.1248.2010.00049
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Dr. B. G. Hunt – Climate Dynamics – February 2011
The role of natural climatic variation in perturbing the observed global mean temperature trend
“Controversy continues to prevail concerning the reality of anthropogenically-induced climatic warming. One of the principal issues is the cause of the hiatus in the current global warming trend.”
doi:10.1007/s00382-010-0799-x
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Dr. Robert K. Kaufmann – PNAS – 2nd June 2011
“…Given the widely noted increase in the warming effects of rising greenhouse gas concentrations, it has been unclear why global surface temperatures did not rise between 1998 and 2008. We find that this hiatus in warming coincides…”
doi: 10.1073/pnas.1102467108
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Dr. Gerald A. Meehl – Nature Climate Change – 18th September 2011
“There have been decades, such as 2000–2009, when the observed globally averaged surface-temperature time series shows little increase or even a slightly negative trend1 (a hiatus period)….”
doi:10.1038/nclimate1229
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Met Office Blog – Dave Britton (10:48:21) – 15 October 2012
“We agree with Mr Rose that there has been only a very small amount of warming in the 21st Century. As stated in our response, this is 0.05 degrees Celsius since 1997 equivalent to 0.03 degrees Celsius per decade.”
metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/met-office-in-the-media-14-october-2012
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Dr. James Hansen – NASA GISS – 15 January 2013
Global Temperature Update Through 2012
“…The 5-year mean global temperature has been flat for a decade, which we interpret as a combination of natural variability and a slowdown in the growth rate of the net climate forcing…”
columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2013/20130115_Temperature2012.pdf
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Dr. Virginie Guemas – Nature Climate Change – 1 March 2013
“…Despite a sustained production of anthropogenic greenhouse gases, the Earth’s mean near-surface temperature paused its rise during the 2000–2010 period…”
doi:10.1038/nclimate1863
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Professor Masahiro Watanabe – Geophysical Research Letters – 28 June 2013
“The weakening of k commonly found in GCMs seems to be an inevitable response of the climate system to global warming, suggesting the recovery from hiatus in coming decades.”
doi:10.1002/grl.50541
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Met Office – July 2013
The recent pause in global warming, part 3: What are the implications for projections of future warming?
….Executive summary
The recent pause in global surface temperature rise does not materially alter the risks of substantial warming of the Earth by the end of this century.”
Source: metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/3/r/Paper3_Implications_for_projections.pdf
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Dr. Yu Kosaka et. al. – Nature – 28 August 2013
Climate change: The case of the missing heat
Sixteen years into the mysterious ‘global-warming hiatus’, scientists are piecing together an explanation.
Recent global-warming hiatus tied to equatorial Pacific surface cooling
Despite the continued increase in atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations, the annual-mean global temperature has not risen in the twenty-first century…”
doi:10.1038/nature12534
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Dr. Kevin E. Trenberth – Nature News Feature – 15 January 2014
Climate change: The case of the missing heat
Sixteen years into the mysterious ‘global-warming hiatus’, scientists are piecing together an explanation.
“The 1997 to ’98 El Niño event was a trigger for the changes in the Pacific, and I think that’s very probably the beginning of the hiatus,” says Kevin Trenberth, a climate scientist…
doi:10.1038/505276a
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Dr. Gabriel Vecchi – Nature News Feature – 15 January 2014
“A few years ago you saw the hiatus, but it could be dismissed because it was well within the noise,” says Gabriel Vecchi, a climate scientist……“Now it’s something to explain.”…..
doi:10.1038/505276a
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Dr. Jana Sillmann et al – IopScience – 18 June 2014
Observed and simulated temperature extremes during the recent warming hiatus
“This regional inconsistency between models and observations might be a key to understanding the recent hiatus in global mean temperature warming.”
doi:10.1088/1748-9326/9/6/064023
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Dr. Kevin E. Trenberth et al – Nature Climate Change – 11 July 2014
Seasonal aspects of the recent pause in surface warming
Factors involved in the recent pause in the rise of global mean temperatures are examined seasonally. For 1999 to 2012, the hiatus in surface warming is mainly evident in the central and eastern Pacific…….atmospheric circulation anomalies observed globally during the hiatus.
doi:10.1038/nclimate2341
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Dr. Young-Heon Jo et al – American Meteorological Society – 24 October 2014
Climate signals in the mid to high latitude North Atlantic from altimeter observations
“…..Furthermore, the low-frequency variability in the SPG relates to the propagation of Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) variations from the deep-water formation region to mid-latitudes in the North Atlantic, which might have the implications for recent global surface warming hiatus.”
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Dr. Hans Gleisner – Geophysical Research Letters – 28 January 2015
Recent global warming hiatus dominated by low latitude temperature trends in surface and troposphere data
Over the last 15 years, global mean surface temperatures exhibit only weak trends…..Omission of successively larger polar regions from the global-mean temperature calculations, in both tropospheric and surface data sets, shows that data gaps at high latitudes can not explain the observed differences between the hiatus and the pre-hiatus period….
http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/2014GL062596
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Dr. Hervé Douville et al – Geophysical Research Letters – 10 February 2015
The recent global-warming hiatus: What is the role of Pacific variability?
The observed global mean surface air temperature (GMST) has not risen over the last 15 years, spurring outbreaks of skepticism regarding the nature of global warming and challenging the upper-range transient response of the current-generation global climate models….
http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/2014GL062775
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Dr. Veronica Nieves – Science – 31 July 2015
Recent hiatus caused by decadal shift in Indo-Pacific heating
Recent modeling studies have proposed different scenarios to explain the slowdown in surface temperature warming in the most recent decade…..
Recent hiatus caused by decadal shift in Indo-Pacific heating
 
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So, will it now be required for all acolytes of the denier cult to embrace anti-Catholic bigotry?
Oooooooo so scary... you found a new gotcha quote.... no evidence to back your claims only phony models... Snageltooth should get a new line... Now instead of DENIER your a ANTI-CATHOLIC BIGOT.... It only took three days for the cult to find a new name for those who dont agree with their witch-doctors and lies after major news reporting agencies were told to stop using it by the white-house...

And with the emergence of a new left wit talking point and attempt at denigrating those who dont hold the AGW cult faith....

Now instead of DENIER your a ANTI-CATHOLIC BIGOT....

It only took three days for the cult to find a new name for those who dont agree with their witch-doctors and lies after major news reporting agencies were told to stop using it by the white-house.
 
One of your fellow deniers just declared that the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon. Do you condemn them for that?
He is Biblically correct by location and action... so NO I do NOT! The Pope has injected himself into a position that is scientifically indefensible and outside the churches purview. The Pope is embracing evil and that is the problem!
 
Actually Billy..........and you cant even make this shit up anymore.........the AP had a story last week that we have gone from "skeptics"............to "deniers".............and now? "Doubters"........:bye1::clap::bye1:..........the "deniers" campaign was such a flop, they had to rename it now!!!
 
More bad news for the climate crusading nutters.......


Less people than ever believe in global warming!!!


What climate change? Fewer people than EVER believe the world is really warming up | UK | News | Daily Express


As Ive said many times and been 100% accurate......nobody cares about the science!!:D


Only thing the skeptics can ever win is the narrative. Will suffer along with the rest of us the effects hwoever.

Outta make it legal to kill them as the effects bear themselves out. Or at least cut out their tongues as a warning to dangerous talk.
 
More bad news for the climate crusading nutters.......


Less people than ever believe in global warming!!!


What climate change? Fewer people than EVER believe the world is really warming up | UK | News | Daily Express


As Ive said many times and been 100% accurate......nobody cares about the science!!:D


Only thing the skeptics can ever win is the narrative. Will suffer along with the rest of us the effects hwoever.

Outta make it legal to kill them as the effects bear themselves out. Or at least cut out their tongues as a warning to dangerous talk.



LOL.....hey s0n......hate to break it to ya but when we end up choosing up sides, you and your faggy progressive pals wiffle ball bat/tennis racket weapons systems are going to go down hard.:2up::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:
 
WHat do ya mean the ICE ISNT MELTING?

TORONTO, September 29, 2015 – Despite climate change, sea ice in the (NWP) remains too thick and treacherous for it to be a regular commercial Arctic shipping route for many decades, according to new research out of York University.

The Ice has not been melting and the ice thickness has not changed greatly in over 140 years...

Source


Mother nature keeps give them kicks to the sack and they just ignore them..
 
WHat do ya mean the ICE ISNT MELTING?

TORONTO, September 29, 2015 – Despite climate change, sea ice in the (NWP) remains too thick and treacherous for it to be a regular commercial Arctic shipping route for many decades, according to new research out of York University.

The Ice has not been melting and the ice thickness has not changed greatly in over 140 years...

Source


Mother nature keeps give them kicks to the sack and they just ignore them..


LOL........more k00k losing!!!:2up::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:


Hey Billy...........check out what Dr Judith Curry said today about the climate science industry of hate.............

A new low in science: Criminalizing climate change skeptics | Fox News


Its called Bogus Science:funnyface::funnyface::funnyface:
 
Prof. Robert M. Carter;

"Climate has always changed, and it always will. The assumption that prior to the industrial revolution the Earth had a "stable" climate is simply wrong.
The biggest untruth about human global warming is the assertion that nearly all scientists agree that it is occurring, and at a dangerous rate.

The reality is that almost every aspect of climate science is the subject of vigorous debate. Further, thousands of qualified scientists worldwide have signed declarations which (i) query the evidence for hypothetical human-caused warming and (ii) support a rational scientific (not emotional) approach to its study within the context of known natural climate change.

TEN GLOBAL WARMING MYTHS

Myth 1) Average global temperature (AGT) has increased over the last few years.

Fact 1) Within error bounds, AGT has not increased since 1995 and has declined since 2002, despite an increase in atmospheric CO2 of 8% since 1995.

Myth 2) During the late 20th Century, AGT increased at a dangerously fast rate and reached an unprecedented magnitude.

Fact 2) The late 20th Century AGT rise was at a rate of 1-2.0 C/century, which lies well within natural rates of climate change for the last 10,000 yr. AGT has been several degrees warmer than today many times in the recent geological past.

Myth 3) AGT was relatively unchanging in pre-industrial times, has sky-rocketed since 1900, and will increase by several degrees more over the next 100 years (the Mann, Bradley & Hughes "hockey stick" curve and its computer extrapolation).

Fact 3) The Mann et al. curve has been exposed as a statistical contrivance. There is no convincing evidence that past climate was unchanging, nor that 20th century changes in AGT were unusual, nor that dangerous human warming is underway.

Myth 4) Computer models predict that AGT will increase by up to 6.0 C over the next 100 years.

Fact 4) Deterministic computer models do. Other equally valid (empirical) computer models predict cooling.

Myth 5) Warming of more than 2.0 C will have catastrophic effects on ecosystems and mankind alike.

Fact 5) A 2.0 C change would be well within previous natural bounds. Ecosystems have been adapting to such changes since time immemorial. The result is the process that we call evolution. Mankind can and does adapt to all climate extremes.

Myth 6) Further human addition of CO2 to the atmosphere will cause dangerous warming, and is generally harmful.

Fact 6) No human-caused warming can yet be detected that is distinct from natural system variation and noise. Any additional human-caused warming which occurs will probably amount to less than 1.0 C. Atmospheric CO2 is a beneficial fertilizer for plants, including especially cereal crops, and also aids efficient evapo-transpiration.

Myth 7) Changes in solar activity cannot explain recent changes in AGT.

Fact 7) The sun's output varies in several ways on many time scales (including the 11-, 22 and 80-year solar cycles), with concomitant effects on Earth's climate. While changes in visible radiation are small, changes in particle flux and magnetic field are known to exercise a strong climatic effect. More than 50% of the 0.80 C rise in AGT observed during the 20th century can be attributed to solar change.

Myth 8) Unprecedented melting of ice is taking place in both the north and south polar regions.

Fact 8) Both the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets are growing in thickness and cooling at their summit. Sea ice around Antarctica attained a record area in 2007. Temperatures in the Arctic region are just now achieving the levels of natural warmth experienced during the early 1940s, and the region was warmer still (sea-ice free) during earlier times.

Myth 9) Human-caused global warming is causing dangerous global sea-level (SL) rise.

Fact 9) SL change differs from time to time and place to place; between 1955 and 1996, for example, SL at Tuvalu fell by 105 mm (2.5 mm/yr). Global average SL is a statistical measure of no value for environmental planning purposes. A global average SL rise of 1-2 mm/yr occurred naturally over the last 150 years, and shows no sign of human-influenced increase.

Myth 10) The late 20th Century increase in AGT caused an increase in the number of severe storms (cyclones), or in storm intensity.

Fact 10) Meteorological experts are agreed that no increase in storms has occurred beyond that associated with natural variation of the climate system."


Robert M. Carter is a Research Professor at James Cook University (Queensland) and the University of Adelaide (South Australia). He is a palaeontologist, stratigrapher, marine geologist and environmental scientist with more than thirty years professional experience.
 
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Prof. Robert M. Carter;

"Climate has always changed, and it always will. The assumption that prior to the industrial revolution the Earth had a "stable" climate is simply wrong.
The biggest untruth about human global warming is the assertion that nearly all scientists agree that it is occurring, and at a dangerous rate.

The reality is that almost every aspect of climate science is the subject of vigorous debate. Further, thousands of qualified scientists worldwide have signed declarations which (i) query the evidence for hypothetical human-caused warming and (ii) support a rational scientific (not emotional) approach to its study within the context of known natural climate change.

TEN GLOBAL WARMING MYTHS

Myth 1) Average global temperature (AGT) has increased over the last few years.

Fact 1) Within error bounds, AGT has not increased since 1995 and has declined since 2002, despite an increase in atmospheric CO2 of 8% since 1995.

Myth 2) During the late 20th Century, AGT increased at a dangerously fast rate and reached an unprecedented magnitude.

Fact 2) The late 20th Century AGT rise was at a rate of 1-2.0 C/century, which lies well within natural rates of climate change for the last 10,000 yr. AGT has been several degrees warmer than today many times in the recent geological past.

Myth 3) AGT was relatively unchanging in pre-industrial times, has sky-rocketed since 1900, and will increase by several degrees more over the next 100 years (the Mann, Bradley & Hughes "hockey stick" curve and its computer extrapolation).

Fact 3) The Mann et al. curve has been exposed as a statistical contrivance. There is no convincing evidence that past climate was unchanging, nor that 20th century changes in AGT were unusual, nor that dangerous human warming is underway.

Myth 4) Computer models predict that AGT will increase by up to 6.0 C over the next 100 years.

Fact 4) Deterministic computer models do. Other equally valid (empirical) computer models predict cooling.

Myth 5) Warming of more than 2.0 C will have catastrophic effects on ecosystems and mankind alike.

Fact 5) A 2.0 C change would be well within previous natural bounds. Ecosystems have been adapting to such changes since time immemorial. The result is the process that we call evolution. Mankind can and does adapt to all climate extremes.

Myth 6) Further human addition of CO2 to the atmosphere will cause dangerous warming, and is generally harmful.

Fact 6) No human-caused warming can yet be detected that is distinct from natural system variation and noise. Any additional human-caused warming which occurs will probably amount to less than 1.0 C. Atmospheric CO2 is a beneficial fertilizer for plants, including especially cereal crops, and also aids efficient evapo-transpiration.

Myth 7) Changes in solar activity cannot explain recent changes in AGT.

Fact 7) The sun's output varies in several ways on many time scales (including the 11-, 22 and 80-year solar cycles), with concomitant effects on Earth's climate. While changes in visible radiation are small, changes in particle flux and magnetic field are known to exercise a strong climatic effect. More than 50% of the 0.80 C rise in AGT observed during the 20th century can be attributed to solar change.

Myth 8) Unprecedented melting of ice is taking place in both the north and south polar regions.

Fact 8) Both the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets are growing in thickness and cooling at their summit. Sea ice around Antarctica attained a record area in 2007. Temperatures in the Arctic region are just now achieving the levels of natural warmth experienced during the early 1940s, and the region was warmer still (sea-ice free) during earlier times.

Myth 9) Human-caused global warming is causing dangerous global sea-level (SL) rise.

Fact 9) SL change differs from time to time and place to place; between 1955 and 1996, for example, SL at Tuvalu fell by 105 mm (2.5 mm/yr). Global average SL is a statistical measure of no value for environmental planning purposes. A global average SL rise of 1-2 mm/yr occurred naturally over the last 150 years, and shows no sign of human-influenced increase.

Myth 10) The late 20th Century increase in AGT caused an increase in the number of severe storms (cyclones), or in storm intensity.

Fact 10) Meteorological experts are agreed that no increase in storms has occurred beyond that associated with natural variation of the climate system."


Robert M. Carter is a Research Professor at James Cook University (Queensland) and the University of Adelaide (South Australia). He is a palaeontologist, stratigrapher, marine geologist and environmental scientist with more than thirty years professional experience.



Dang Billy.........some of your recent posts in here are just amplifying the level of lose amongst the AGW nutters. Pronounced levels of domination my friend.............and Im laughing.

Did you see that social oddball Delta stopped into this thread today?? How does that bozo navigate in the real world??
 
Prof. Robert M. Carter;

"Climate has always changed, and it always will. The assumption that prior to the industrial revolution the Earth had a "stable" climate is simply wrong.
The biggest untruth about human global warming is the assertion that nearly all scientists agree that it is occurring, and at a dangerous rate.

The reality is that almost every aspect of climate science is the subject of vigorous debate. Further, thousands of qualified scientists worldwide have signed declarations which (i) query the evidence for hypothetical human-caused warming and (ii) support a rational scientific (not emotional) approach to its study within the context of known natural climate change.

TEN GLOBAL WARMING MYTHS

Myth 1) Average global temperature (AGT) has increased over the last few years.

Fact 1) Within error bounds, AGT has not increased since 1995 and has declined since 2002, despite an increase in atmospheric CO2 of 8% since 1995.

Myth 2) During the late 20th Century, AGT increased at a dangerously fast rate and reached an unprecedented magnitude.

Fact 2) The late 20th Century AGT rise was at a rate of 1-2.0 C/century, which lies well within natural rates of climate change for the last 10,000 yr. AGT has been several degrees warmer than today many times in the recent geological past.

Myth 3) AGT was relatively unchanging in pre-industrial times, has sky-rocketed since 1900, and will increase by several degrees more over the next 100 years (the Mann, Bradley & Hughes "hockey stick" curve and its computer extrapolation).

Fact 3) The Mann et al. curve has been exposed as a statistical contrivance. There is no convincing evidence that past climate was unchanging, nor that 20th century changes in AGT were unusual, nor that dangerous human warming is underway.

Myth 4) Computer models predict that AGT will increase by up to 6.0 C over the next 100 years.

Fact 4) Deterministic computer models do. Other equally valid (empirical) computer models predict cooling.

Myth 5) Warming of more than 2.0 C will have catastrophic effects on ecosystems and mankind alike.

Fact 5) A 2.0 C change would be well within previous natural bounds. Ecosystems have been adapting to such changes since time immemorial. The result is the process that we call evolution. Mankind can and does adapt to all climate extremes.

Myth 6) Further human addition of CO2 to the atmosphere will cause dangerous warming, and is generally harmful.

Fact 6) No human-caused warming can yet be detected that is distinct from natural system variation and noise. Any additional human-caused warming which occurs will probably amount to less than 1.0 C. Atmospheric CO2 is a beneficial fertilizer for plants, including especially cereal crops, and also aids efficient evapo-transpiration.

Myth 7) Changes in solar activity cannot explain recent changes in AGT.

Fact 7) The sun's output varies in several ways on many time scales (including the 11-, 22 and 80-year solar cycles), with concomitant effects on Earth's climate. While changes in visible radiation are small, changes in particle flux and magnetic field are known to exercise a strong climatic effect. More than 50% of the 0.80 C rise in AGT observed during the 20th century can be attributed to solar change.

Myth 8) Unprecedented melting of ice is taking place in both the north and south polar regions.

Fact 8) Both the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets are growing in thickness and cooling at their summit. Sea ice around Antarctica attained a record area in 2007. Temperatures in the Arctic region are just now achieving the levels of natural warmth experienced during the early 1940s, and the region was warmer still (sea-ice free) during earlier times.

Myth 9) Human-caused global warming is causing dangerous global sea-level (SL) rise.

Fact 9) SL change differs from time to time and place to place; between 1955 and 1996, for example, SL at Tuvalu fell by 105 mm (2.5 mm/yr). Global average SL is a statistical measure of no value for environmental planning purposes. A global average SL rise of 1-2 mm/yr occurred naturally over the last 150 years, and shows no sign of human-influenced increase.

Myth 10) The late 20th Century increase in AGT caused an increase in the number of severe storms (cyclones), or in storm intensity.

Fact 10) Meteorological experts are agreed that no increase in storms has occurred beyond that associated with natural variation of the climate system."


Robert M. Carter is a Research Professor at James Cook University (Queensland) and the University of Adelaide (South Australia). He is a palaeontologist, stratigrapher, marine geologist and environmental scientist with more than thirty years professional experience.



Dang Billy.........some of your recent posts in here are just amplifying the level of lose amongst the AGW nutters. Pronounced levels of domination my friend.............and Im laughing.

Did you see that social oddball Delta stopped into this thread today?? How does that bozo navigate in the real world??
the dude's teachers lost the battle on that guy. He doesn't know how to surf the internet. He posts stuff that he could look up and see ain't true, it's too funny, and it's a good laugh for the day. See the picture of the house on the beach on its side and then blaming melting permafrost. The house about fifty feet from the ocean and the sand erosion, the house fell over. too funny.
 
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