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There really needs to be an accurate accounting of actual police shootings. Many departments refuse to divulge this information. It shouldn't be optional.
Its not optional.
The Freedom of Information Act mandates all police reports be public. It's how the media gets all their info.
Bucs thinks that everything is reported and if its not reported it didnt happen. Seems fair. Everything that happens in out in the public.
Then the next thread Bucs is going to tell you that Obama secretly wants to take your guns but its not on TV because....uh,
Well....if police shoot and kill someone...the entire Internet knows about it within hours. Kinda hard to no report that huh?
Weee! Logic!
There really needs to be an accurate accounting of actual police shootings. Many departments refuse to divulge this information. It shouldn't be optional.
Its not optional to do a report or release the report. It's NOT optional to forward it to the state police. It IS optional to send it to the FBI....because the FBI does not have chain of command authority over state or city police (Yay states rights!)
The Freedom of Information Act mandates all police reports be public. It's how the media gets all their info.
You can find out about any shootings by any agency with a simple FOIA request.
When a shooting happens it's instantly on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter...CNN MSNBC and local news. Lawyers scramble.
There really needs to be an accurate accounting of actual police shootings. Many departments refuse to divulge this information. It shouldn't be optional.
Its not optional.
The Freedom of Information Act mandates all police reports be public. It's how the media gets all their info.
The FOIA is a federal law that that mandates that federal records be divulged. It doesn't apply to States. Many states have their own FOIA. But those that don't are under no mandate to divulge the information to the public.
In many instances the Washington post had to go to news reports to get their information, as it wasn't available in public records.
When a shooting happens it's instantly on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter...CNN MSNBC and local news. Lawyers scramble.
And this means that every shooting is known by the public. How can Bucs make that assertion?
By asserting it to be true.
Ya hopefully!Well. Since tRump loves the Naz.........I mean PoPo, maybe he can budget a few hundred million for shooting lessons so they can triple the numbers with 1/4 of the ammo.
Make Amurrika Efficient Again !
When a shooting happens it's instantly on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter...CNN MSNBC and local news. Lawyers scramble.
And this means that every shooting is known by the public. How can Bucs make that assertion?
By asserting it to be true.
So you're saying police are shooting and killing people and:
A) News and social media don't report it
B) Police don't do a report
C) Family of deceased don't go to the media
Is that what you're saying? How many more other than the appx 1000 the WP notes do you think happens like that??
I'm thinking libs watch way too many Hollywood cop movies.
They're alleging cops are shooting and killing people....then doing no report....and somehow the news and social media never get wind of it....and the family of the deceased is silent about it.
That's some real Mexican police style shit right there.
Criminal justice experts note that, while the federal government and national research groups keep scads of data and statistics— on topics ranging from how many people were victims of unprovoked shark attacks (53 in 2013) to the number of hogs and pigs living on farms in the U.S. (upwards of 64,000,000 according to 2010 numbers) — there is no reliable national data on how many people are shot by police officers each year
When a shooting happens it's instantly on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter...CNN MSNBC and local news. Lawyers scramble.
And this means that every shooting is known by the public. How can Bucs make that assertion?
By asserting it to be true.
So you're saying police are shooting and killing people and:
A) News and social media don't report it
B) Police don't do a report
C) Family of deceased don't go to the media
Is that what you're saying? How many more other than the appx 1000 the WP notes do you think happens like that??
Putting it quite simply. What metrics are you using to determine that all shootings are known by the public? Here is a clue: Pointing at your gut is not a metric.
Good luck!
I'm thinking libs watch way too many Hollywood cop movies.
They're alleging cops are shooting and killing people....then doing no report....and somehow the news and social media never get wind of it....and the family of the deceased is silent about it.
That's some real Mexican police style shit right there.
You say the police not reporting it is silly?
How many police shootings a year? No one knows
Criminal justice experts note that, while the federal government and national research groups keep scads of data and statistics— on topics ranging from how many people were victims of unprovoked shark attacks (53 in 2013) to the number of hogs and pigs living on farms in the U.S. (upwards of 64,000,000 according to 2010 numbers) — there is no reliable national data on how many people are shot by police officers each year
But of course you might do a back peddle and claim thats just the liberal Post (which you relied on their data). Here is another:
FBI director calls lack of data on police shootings ‘ridiculous,’ ‘embarrassing’
FBI director calls lack of data on police shootings ‘ridiculous,’ ‘embarrassing’
[FONT=PostoniStandardBold, Georgia, serif]So Buckaroo, tell me why the post who you said did deep studies on it are wrong. Then tell me why the FBI director also cant find that data to which you just so happen to be privy too.[/FONT]
When a shooting happens it's instantly on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter...CNN MSNBC and local news. Lawyers scramble.
And this means that every shooting is known by the public. How can Bucs make that assertion?
By asserting it to be true.
So you're saying police are shooting and killing people and:
A) News and social media don't report it
B) Police don't do a report
C) Family of deceased don't go to the media
Is that what you're saying? How many more other than the appx 1000 the WP notes do you think happens like that??
Putting it quite simply. What metrics are you using to determine that all shootings are known by the public? Here is a clue: Pointing at your gut is not a metric.
Good luck!
Ok I'll explain. But I want you to explain how they arent.
Metro City cop has a guy run at him with a bat. Oh shit. BAM! Shot fired suspect dead.
Sgt and Lt. are notified...followed by the Chief. Everyone is there. Blue lights blazing.
Residents nearby hear or see. And begin to film. Or post to social media.
Live News team with Ron Burgundy HEARS THE radio transmission on police scanner (yes...media listens to scanners) and hears "shots fired". Media is en route.
Then the county coroner (elected position) comes out. Someone is dead. They have to. Family of the deceased is notified.
NOW.....you explain to me how the police then just say "Nah....never happened" and don't do a report????? Because that's how shootings go down. I unfortunately had to be around a handful in my 8 years.
The FBI tracks a subset of police killings, a category it calls justifiable homicides by law enforcement. But it relies on voluntary reporting by police departments, and the figures are limited to cases in which the civilian was killed while committing a felony.
The Death in Custody Reporting Act, signed into law last December by President Barack Obama, aims to get a step closer to a national total by allowing the attorney general to withhold federal grant money from states that fail to report their deaths.
One Year After Ferguson: Why Nobody Knows How Many People Are Killed by Police
I'm thinking libs watch way too many Hollywood cop movies.
They're alleging cops are shooting and killing people....then doing no report....and somehow the news and social media never get wind of it....and the family of the deceased is silent about it.
That's some real Mexican police style shit right there.
You say the police not reporting it is silly?
How many police shootings a year? No one knows
Criminal justice experts note that, while the federal government and national research groups keep scads of data and statistics— on topics ranging from how many people were victims of unprovoked shark attacks (53 in 2013) to the number of hogs and pigs living on farms in the U.S. (upwards of 64,000,000 according to 2010 numbers) — there is no reliable national data on how many people are shot by police officers each year
But of course you might do a back peddle and claim thats just the liberal Post (which you relied on their data). Here is another:
FBI director calls lack of data on police shootings ‘ridiculous,’ ‘embarrassing’
FBI director calls lack of data on police shootings ‘ridiculous,’ ‘embarrassing’
[FONT=PostoniStandardBold, Georgia, serif]So Buckaroo, tell me why the post who you said did deep studies on it are wrong. Then tell me why the FBI director also cant find that data to which you just so happen to be privy too.[/FONT]
When a shooting happens it's instantly on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter...CNN MSNBC and local news. Lawyers scramble.
And this means that every shooting is known by the public. How can Bucs make that assertion?
By asserting it to be true.
So you're saying police are shooting and killing people and:
A) News and social media don't report it
B) Police don't do a report
C) Family of deceased don't go to the media
Is that what you're saying? How many more other than the appx 1000 the WP notes do you think happens like that??
Putting it quite simply. What metrics are you using to determine that all shootings are known by the public? Here is a clue: Pointing at your gut is not a metric.
Good luck!
Ok I'll explain. But I want you to explain how they arent.
Metro City cop has a guy run at him with a bat. Oh shit. BAM! Shot fired suspect dead.
Sgt and Lt. are notified...followed by the Chief. Everyone is there. Blue lights blazing.
Residents nearby hear or see. And begin to film. Or post to social media.
Live News team with Ron Burgundy HEARS THE radio transmission on police scanner (yes...media listens to scanners) and hears "shots fired". Media is en route.
Then the county coroner (elected position) comes out. Someone is dead. They have to. Family of the deceased is notified.
NOW.....you explain to me how the police then just say "Nah....never happened" and don't do a report????? Because that's how shootings go down. I unfortunately had to be around a handful in my 8 years.
The FBI doesn't want to do the work. But it's right there for them. The Washington Post did it.
you didn't read the earlier post i see.
There really needs to be an accurate accounting of actual police shootings. Many departments refuse to divulge this information. It shouldn't be optional.
When a shooting happens it's instantly on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter...CNN MSNBC and local news. Lawyers scramble.
And this means that every shooting is known by the public. How can Bucs make that assertion?
By asserting it to be true.
So you're saying police are shooting and killing people and:
A) News and social media don't report it
B) Police don't do a report
C) Family of deceased don't go to the media
Is that what you're saying? How many more other than the appx 1000 the WP notes do you think happens like that??
Putting it quite simply. What metrics are you using to determine that all shootings are known by the public? Here is a clue: Pointing at your gut is not a metric.
Good luck!
Ok I'll explain. But I want you to explain how they arent.
Metro City cop has a guy run at him with a bat. Oh shit. BAM! Shot fired suspect dead.
Sgt and Lt. are notified...followed by the Chief. Everyone is there. Blue lights blazing.
Residents nearby hear or see. And begin to film. Or post to social media.
Live News team with Ron Burgundy HEARS THE radio transmission on police scanner (yes...media listens to scanners) and hears "shots fired". Media is en route.
Then the county coroner (elected position) comes out. Someone is dead. They have to. Family of the deceased is notified.
NOW.....you explain to me how the police then just say "Nah....never happened" and don't do a report????? Because that's how shootings go down. I unfortunately had to be around a handful in my 8 years.
Buc, lets start slowly:
You citing yourself means jack shit. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And you can't back your horseshit up with evidence.
Meanwhile....
The FBI tracks a subset of police killings, a category it calls justifiable homicides by law enforcement. But it relies on voluntary reporting by police departments, and the figures are limited to cases in which the civilian was killed while committing a felony.
The Death in Custody Reporting Act, signed into law last December by President Barack Obama, aims to get a step closer to a national total by allowing the attorney general to withhold federal grant money from states that fail to report their deaths.
One Year After Ferguson: Why Nobody Knows How Many People Are Killed by Police
The reporting is *voluntary*. And the FBI can't get reliable stats. Which is outrageous.
you didn't read the earlier post i see.
There really needs to be an accurate accounting of actual police shootings. Many departments refuse to divulge this information. It shouldn't be optional.
