More White House officials at Michael Brown’s funeral than Thatcher’s; (NONE for Margaret Thatcher!)

[Vikrant]

I never said he was "a great guy": I simply stated that there is a difference between a (British) imperialist and a Nazi.

And for someone who claims to be as well-read with regard to Churchill as you are, it's a bit disingenuous to call the guy whose leadership helped strengthen the British resolve to defeat the most evil man of the 20th Century a Nazi, don't cha think?

You cannot spin truth, holmes.

Dude, at least read the link that I posted earlier. That way, you at least will have some idea on the scum you are defending. Your comments about World War II tells me that you almost have no detailed knowledge of World War II either. Let me give you one more shock. There were more Indians who fought in the World War II than British. How concerned are you about their sensibilities?

You are willing to overlook the deaths, tortures and loots Churchill oversaw. I am not. That is the difference.

I 100% support Obama's decision to remove Churchill's bust from the White House. This does not in any way reflect on the US' special relationship with the UK. UK is a valuable ally of the US and will be so for foreseeable time. Churchill's bust should have nothing to do with it.

 

[Jackson]

It remains that England is a very close ally and Thatcher's death should have been attended by the president.

Brown's funeral should not have had any WH personnel attending. Where do you draw the line? Foley certainly warranted that kindness before Michael Brown.

Just politics again. When does it stop?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The "president" did not go to the funeral of Margaret Thatcher or send WH representatives and that is outrageous. But he sends three to Brown's funeral...a thug who robbed a store and struck a cop who resisted arrest and got shot for it. Amazing what outright bigotry does to a man's decision making!

Imagine if Obama had gone to Maggie's funeral and played a round of golf on the trip.

The number of travel and golf threads in here would be outrageous!!!

Doesn't really matter what he does.. They'll lie about it.

 

[Peach]

And he admitted he had been wrong about Mussolini, whome he had admired in the late 1920s, yes a flawed human, as are we all; yet Churchill learned from his errors:

• We must build a kind of United States of Europe.
  • Speech at Zurich University (September 19, 1946) (partial text) ([2])

• We must all turn our backs upon the horrors of the past. We must look to the future. We cannot afford to drag forward cross the years that are to come the hatreds and revenges which have sprung from the injuries of the past.

 

[Jackson]

The "president" did not go to the funeral of Margaret Thatcher or send WH representatives and that is outrageous. But he sends three to Brown's funeral...a thug who robbed a store and struck a cop who resisted arrest and got shot for it. Amazing what outright bigotry does to a man's decision making!

Imagine if Obama had gone to Maggie's funeral and played a round of golf on the trip.

The number of travel and golf threads in here would be outrageous!!!

Doesn't really matter what he does.. They'll lie about it.

 

[shart_attack]

And he admitted he had been wrong about Mussolini, whome he had admired in the late 1920s, yes a flawed human, as are we all; yet Churchill learned from his errors:

• We must build a kind of United States of Europe.
  • Speech at Zurich University (September 19, 1946) (partial text) ([2])

• We must all turn our backs upon the horrors of the past. We must look to the future. We cannot afford to drag forward cross the years that are to come the hatreds and revenges which have sprung from the injuries of the past.

Will your boy Obama ever admit he was wrong about the gents who led the Arab Spring?

 

[Vikrant]

And he admitted he had been wrong about Mussolini, whome he had admired in the late 1920s, yes a flawed human, as are we all; yet Churchill learned from his errors:

• We must build a kind of United States of Europe.
  • Speech at Zurich University (September 19, 1946) (partial text) ([2])

• We must all turn our backs upon the horrors of the past. We must look to the future. We cannot afford to drag forward cross the years that are to come the hatreds and revenges which have sprung from the injuries of the past.

For real, do you really think a man's crimes against humanity should be ignored just because he goes out and gives a fancy speech at a university? Did you not read about his involvement in concentration camps of Africa which killed countless African people? It is frustrating to see that people do not have time to read newspaper articles and books but they have time to open their big mouth.

 

[shart_attack]

And he admitted he had been wrong about Mussolini, whome he had admired in the late 1920s, yes a flawed human, as are we all; yet Churchill learned from his errors:

• We must build a kind of United States of Europe.
  • Speech at Zurich University (September 19, 1946) (partial text) ([2])

• We must all turn our backs upon the horrors of the past. We must look to the future. We cannot afford to drag forward cross the years that are to come the hatreds and revenges which have sprung from the injuries of the past.

For real, do you really think a man's crimes against humanity should be ignored just because he goes out and gives a fancy speech at a university? Did you not read about his involvement in concentration camps of Africa which killed countless African people? It is frustrating to see that people do not have time to read newspaper articles and books but they have time to open their big mouth.

Did you know that African tribes sold their own brothers and sisters into slavery in the 16th Century?

 

[Jackson]

And he admitted he had been wrong about Mussolini, whome he had admired in the late 1920s, yes a flawed human, as are we all; yet Churchill learned from his errors:

• We must build a kind of United States of Europe.
  • Speech at Zurich University (September 19, 1946) (partial text) ([2])

• We must all turn our backs upon the horrors of the past. We must look to the future. We cannot afford to drag forward cross the years that are to come the hatreds and revenges which have sprung from the injuries of the past.

For real, do you really think a man's crimes against humanity should be ignored just because he goes out and gives a fancy speech at a university? Did you not read about his involvement in concentration camps of Africa which killed countless African people? It is frustrating to see that people do not have time to read newspaper articles and books but they have time to open their big mouth.

 

[Vikrant]

Did you know that African tribes sold their own brothers and sisters into slavery in the 16th Century?

That response from you tells a lot about what kind of human you are.

Let me spell it out for you. African tribes selling their brothers and sisters neither justified Churchill's evil deed in Africa or Asia nor justifies your Churchill fanfare.

 

[Vikrant]

Go back and check the thread. I did not inject Churchill into the discussion. I simply set the records straight.

 

[TheOldSchool]

It remains that England is a very close ally and Thatcher's death should have been attended by the president.

Brown's funeral should not have had any WH personnel attending. Where do you draw the line? Foley certainly warranted that kindness before Michael Brown.

Just politics again. When does it stop?

For the record... imo there's absolutely no reason whatsoever for the President to send anyone there.
If the funeral had happened after a conviction of blatant racism then sure. But with the current facts it's ridiculous.

 

[shart_attack]

Did you know that African tribes sold their own brothers and sisters into slavery in the 16th Century?

That response from you tells a lot about what kind of human you are.

Let me spell it out for you. African tribes selling their brothers and sisters neither justified Churchill's evil deed in Africa or Asia nor justifies your Churchill fanfare.

Let me spell it out for YOU, champ.

If you're gonna say this with regard to Churchill ...

For real, do you really think a man's crimes against humanity should be ignored just because he goes out and gives a fancy speech at a university? Did you not read about his involvement in concentration camps of Africa which killed countless African people? It is frustrating to see that people do not have time to read newspaper articles and books but they have time to open their big mouth.

... then you should be prepared to defend some of the outright despicable things African tribes have done to THEIR OWN PEOPLE in the sad course of world history.

That's what's up, sport.

 

[Moonglow]

It remains that England is a very close ally and Thatcher's death should have been attended by the president.

Brown's funeral should not have had any WH personnel attending. Where do you draw the line? Foley certainly warranted that kindness before Michael Brown.

Just politics again. When does it stop?

British Embassy in Washington sparks fury after holding a party to 'commemorate' 200th anniversary of the burning of the White House

• Diplomats in the US held a ‘White House BBQ' to mark anniversary
• Embassy Tweeted a photo of a White House cake surrounded by sparklers
• On August 24, 1814, British troops occupied Washington for 26 hours
• It is the only time in history that the US capital has been invaded

British Embassy in Washington holds party over White House burning Mail Online

 

[Jackson]

It remains that England is a very close ally and Thatcher's death should have been attended by the president.

Brown's funeral should not have had any WH personnel attending. Where do you draw the line? Foley certainly warranted that kindness before Michael Brown.

Just politics again. When does it stop?

British Embassy in Washington sparks fury after holding a party to 'commemorate' 200th anniversary of the burning of the White House

• Diplomats in the US held a ‘White House BBQ' to mark anniversary
• Embassy Tweeted a photo of a White House cake surrounded by sparklers
• On August 24, 1814, British troops occupied Washington for 26 hours
• It is the only time in history that the US capital has been invaded

British Embassy in Washington holds party over White House burning Mail Online

So, I'll put you down as "not sure" if the president should send people to the funeral of Michael Brown... (Oy vey!)

 

[ScienceRocks]

In this fucked up country a THUG is more important than a former prime Minster of an alley.

Michael Brown was a piece of shit that attacked Wilson and earlier robbed a store.

Fuck you OBAMA and all his filthy crime loving supporters. FUCK YOU!

 

[Moonglow]

What sort of allie commemorates a moment in history of when they tried to reconquer the USA?

 

[Moonglow]

In this fucked up country a THUG is more important than a former prime Minster of an alley.

Michael Brown was a piece of shit that attacked Wilson and earlier robbed a store.

Fuck you OBAMA and all his filthy crime loving supporters. FUCK YOU!

 

[TheOldSchool]

Holy smokes this thread just got REAL!

 

[Peach]

And he admitted he had been wrong about Mussolini, whome he had admired in the late 1920s, yes a flawed human, as are we all; yet Churchill learned from his errors:

• We must build a kind of United States of Europe.
  • Speech at Zurich University (September 19, 1946) (partial text) ([2])

• We must all turn our backs upon the horrors of the past. We must look to the future. We cannot afford to drag forward cross the years that are to come the hatreds and revenges which have sprung from the injuries of the past.

For real, do you really think a man's crimes against humanity should be ignored just because he goes out and gives a fancy speech at a university? Did you not read about his involvement in concentration camps of Africa which killed countless African people? It is frustrating to see that people do not have time to read newspaper articles and books but they have time to open their big mouth.

Did you know that African tribes sold their own brothers and sisters into slavery in the 16th Century?

Actually, that line was originally "tribes sold hostages from other tribes"; the truth is most slaves were simply captured, like prized animals. Back to Churchill, this quote sums him up well:

Winston Churchill, a vehement anti-communist, famously stated "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would at least make a favourable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons."

He believed some ideologies bad, but recognized and differentiated EVIL, his ability to distinguish between the two was part of his stength.