Most rich people worked themselves up from lower class

[HappyJoy]

That would go against the whole "you didn't build that / you didn't earn that" schtick, so it will be denied, distorted, deflected and damned.

No, it doesn't.

 

[2aguy]

No......lowering tax rates has nothing to do with "allowing" people to make more money.....lowering tax rates is letting people keep the money they actually earned....and not giving it to greedy, corrupt politicians to waste or steal.

Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society......Oliver Wendell Holmes

Yeah..and? Citizens are not your personal piggy banks with the emphasis on "piggy."


What is it with you lefties.........someone works to get the skills needed to either work at a job or start their own business...they work hard, they work smart, they sacrifice and take risks...and sometimes all of that pays off and they make a lot of money making other people happy......because in a capitalist society you only make money providing goods and services that other people want...

After all of that work.....you think yo have a right to come in and tell that person how much you think they can keep...based on your greed and envy of what they have......having contributed zero to that person's success....

And you think the person who actually made the money is greedy...

Now that is fucking insane......

They are doing quite well for all that work....and paying less and less in taxes

Our society suffers for it

Nope...the top 5% pay about 90% of the taxes...that isn't getting away with anything

Again..15% flat tax with a 35-40 thousand dollar deduction for all citizens.....that would be perfect......the really poor pay no taxes..the rich pay a little more...that would make you happy...right?

Thought not...you really hate how much the rich have left after you take their money in taxes......it isn't about funding government...you just hate that they have more than you even after you tax them...

Why do they pay most of the taxes?

Ummmmm......maybe because that is where most of the money is

yep...they are already paying their fare share and more besides..............they don't need to pay more...politicians need to spend less.....

We don't have a tax revenue problem...we have a greedy, corrupt politician problem....

 

[rightwinger]

Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society......Oliver Wendell Holmes

Yeah..and? Citizens are not your personal piggy banks with the emphasis on "piggy."


What is it with you lefties.........someone works to get the skills needed to either work at a job or start their own business...they work hard, they work smart, they sacrifice and take risks...and sometimes all of that pays off and they make a lot of money making other people happy......because in a capitalist society you only make money providing goods and services that other people want...

After all of that work.....you think yo have a right to come in and tell that person how much you think they can keep...based on your greed and envy of what they have......having contributed zero to that person's success....

And you think the person who actually made the money is greedy...

Now that is fucking insane......

They are doing quite well for all that work....and paying less and less in taxes

Our society suffers for it

Nope...the top 5% pay about 90% of the taxes...that isn't getting away with anything

Again..15% flat tax with a 35-40 thousand dollar deduction for all citizens.....that would be perfect......the really poor pay no taxes..the rich pay a little more...that would make you happy...right?

Thought not...you really hate how much the rich have left after you take their money in taxes......it isn't about funding government...you just hate that they have more than you even after you tax them...

Why do they pay most of the taxes?

Ummmmm......maybe because that is where most of the money is

yep...they are already paying their fare share and more besides..............they don't need to pay more...politicians need to spend less.....

We don't have a tax revenue problem...we have a greedy, corrupt politician problem....

Our politicians follow the golden rule.......

He who has the gold makes the rules

 

[Esmeralda]

they are claiming that 77 percent of those with over 3 million in assets worked themselves up from being poor or the middle class.

NEW SURVEY: Most wealthy Americans worked their way up from a lower class

So? Who fucking cares? Financial wealth does not equate to a happy and fulfilling life. How much money you have is not an indication of 'success.' I remember a long time ago Oprah doing a show on 'successful' people. They were all considered successful because they a had made a shitload of money. Turns out half of them were crooks or fakes. You people are so screwed up. You think only people who make a lot of money are the people who work hard. You despise the lower class for some wierd reason when most of you are lower class yourselves. You worship rich or moneyed people when they walk all over you and think of you as trash. You don't make any sense. You really have a peasant mentality. Down on your knees to your 'betters,' your rich masters. Stooooopid.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah..and? Citizens are not your personal piggy banks with the emphasis on "piggy."


What is it with you lefties.........someone works to get the skills needed to either work at a job or start their own business...they work hard, they work smart, they sacrifice and take risks...and sometimes all of that pays off and they make a lot of money making other people happy......because in a capitalist society you only make money providing goods and services that other people want...

After all of that work.....you think yo have a right to come in and tell that person how much you think they can keep...based on your greed and envy of what they have......having contributed zero to that person's success....

And you think the person who actually made the money is greedy...

Now that is fucking insane......

They are doing quite well for all that work....and paying less and less in taxes

Our society suffers for it

Nope...the top 5% pay about 90% of the taxes...that isn't getting away with anything

Again..15% flat tax with a 35-40 thousand dollar deduction for all citizens.....that would be perfect......the really poor pay no taxes..the rich pay a little more...that would make you happy...right?

Thought not...you really hate how much the rich have left after you take their money in taxes......it isn't about funding government...you just hate that they have more than you even after you tax them...

Why do they pay most of the taxes?

Ummmmm......maybe because that is where most of the money is

yep...they are already paying their fare share and more besides..............they don't need to pay more...politicians need to spend less.....

We don't have a tax revenue problem...we have a greedy, corrupt politician problem....

Our politicians follow the golden rule.......

He who has the gold makes the rules

And you want to give them more of other peoples money....you are free to empty out your savings and send it to them...but that isn't what you want...you want to empty out the savings of people you don't know, but don't like.......and send that to politicians who couldn't spend the money we already gave responsibly........

You are the nut...

 

[boedicca]

It's true. And those who would deny the opportunity to others to earn enough to be rich just reveal their disdain for their own roots.

 

[Dragonlady]

Are we to assume that everyone posting in this thread is among these "rich" people? If so, why are you all so unhappy all the time?

Not even close to being rich...but I don't hate people who are successful and who have worked and sacrificed to be successful.......you lefties hate those people for some reason....

No, we don't. That's another conservative lie. In fact, many of those millionaires are liberals.

 

[2aguy]

they are claiming that 77 percent of those with over 3 million in assets worked themselves up from being poor or the middle class.

NEW SURVEY: Most wealthy Americans worked their way up from a lower class

So? Who fucking cares? Financial wealth does not equate to a happy and fulfilling life. How much money you have is not an indication of 'success.' I remember a long time agon Ophra doing a show on 'successful' people. They were all considered successful because they a had made a shitload of money. Turns out half of them were crooks or fakes. You people are so screwed up. You think only people who make a lot of money are the people who work hard. You despise the lower class for some wierd reason when most of you are lower class yourselves. You worship rich or moneyed people when they walk all over you and think of you as trash. You don't make any sense. You really have a peasant mentality. Down on your knees to your 'betters,' your rich masters. Stooooopid.

Wrong...try reading the post.....he is pointing out that the rich did not start out rich...they worked for it.........and their happiness is not what we are talking about here........

 

[2aguy]

Are we to assume that everyone posting in this thread is among these "rich" people? If so, why are you all so unhappy all the time?

Not even close to being rich...but I don't hate people who are successful and who have worked and sacrificed to be successful.......you lefties hate those people for some reason....

No, we don't. That's another conservative lie. In fact, many of those millionaires are liberals.

yeah...who hide their own money and then want other people to pay more in taxes....typical leftists......they want other people to be taxed at higher rates and to give that money to the politicians the liberals have bought and paid for....

 

[Freewill]

they are claiming that 77 percent of those with over 3 million in assets worked themselves up from being poor or the middle class.

NEW SURVEY: Most wealthy Americans worked their way up from a lower class

So? Who fucking cares? Financial wealth does not equate to a happy and fulfilling life. How much money you have is not an indication of 'success.' I remember a long time agon Ophra doing a show on 'successful' people. They were all considered successful because they a had made a shitload of money. Turns out half of them were crooks or fakes. You people are so screwed up. You think only people who make a lot of money are the people who work hard. You despise the lower class for some wierd reason when most of you are lower class yourselves. You worship rich or moneyed people when they walk all over you and think of you as trash. You don't make any sense. You really have a peasant mentality. Down on your knees to your 'betters,' your rich masters. Stooooopid.

Actually you got your short in a knot because you have a lack of reasoning ability.

Maybe being rich is not the end all. Maybe being rich doesn't make one happy. My brother who I am guessing never made more than minimum wage is perhaps one of the happiest people I know.

But being happy isn't what the article was about.

 

[HappyJoy]

I enjoy those fiercely defending the poor little 1% who make every excuse in the world as to why they aren't rich as though they ever had a chance. Talk about voting against your best interests.

 

[rightwinger]

They are doing quite well for all that work....and paying less and less in taxes

Our society suffers for it

Nope...the top 5% pay about 90% of the taxes...that isn't getting away with anything

Again..15% flat tax with a 35-40 thousand dollar deduction for all citizens.....that would be perfect......the really poor pay no taxes..the rich pay a little more...that would make you happy...right?

Thought not...you really hate how much the rich have left after you take their money in taxes......it isn't about funding government...you just hate that they have more than you even after you tax them...

Why do they pay most of the taxes?

Ummmmm......maybe because that is where most of the money is

yep...they are already paying their fare share and more besides..............they don't need to pay more...politicians need to spend less.....

We don't have a tax revenue problem...we have a greedy, corrupt politician problem....

Our politicians follow the golden rule.......

He who has the gold makes the rules

And you want to give them more of other peoples money....you are free to empty out your savings and send it to them...but that isn't what you want...you want to empty out the savings of people you don't know, but don't like.......and send that to politicians who couldn't spend the money we already gave responsibly........

You are the nut...

Hyperbole?

Best you got?

Asking the wealthy to pay at previous rates is"emptying out their savings"

 

[2aguy]

Nope...the top 5% pay about 90% of the taxes...that isn't getting away with anything

Again..15% flat tax with a 35-40 thousand dollar deduction for all citizens.....that would be perfect......the really poor pay no taxes..the rich pay a little more...that would make you happy...right?

Thought not...you really hate how much the rich have left after you take their money in taxes......it isn't about funding government...you just hate that they have more than you even after you tax them...

Why do they pay most of the taxes?

Ummmmm......maybe because that is where most of the money is

yep...they are already paying their fare share and more besides..............they don't need to pay more...politicians need to spend less.....

We don't have a tax revenue problem...we have a greedy, corrupt politician problem....

Our politicians follow the golden rule.......

He who has the gold makes the rules

And you want to give them more of other peoples money....you are free to empty out your savings and send it to them...but that isn't what you want...you want to empty out the savings of people you don't know, but don't like.......and send that to politicians who couldn't spend the money we already gave responsibly........

You are the nut...

Hyperbole?

Best you got?

Asking the wealthy to pay at previous rates is"emptying out their savings"

No one should pay more than 15% of their money to the government. And everyone should pay the same taxes at the same rate....

 

[rightwinger]

Why do they pay most of the taxes?

Ummmmm......maybe because that is where most of the money is

yep...they are already paying their fare share and more besides..............they don't need to pay more...politicians need to spend less.....

We don't have a tax revenue problem...we have a greedy, corrupt politician problem....

Our politicians follow the golden rule.......

He who has the gold makes the rules

And you want to give them more of other peoples money....you are free to empty out your savings and send it to them...but that isn't what you want...you want to empty out the savings of people you don't know, but don't like.......and send that to politicians who couldn't spend the money we already gave responsibly........

You are the nut...

Hyperbole?

Best you got?

Asking the wealthy to pay at previous rates is"emptying out their savings"

No one should pay more than 15% of their money to the government. And everyone should pay the same taxes at the same rate....

Idiocy

 

[2aguy]

yep...they are already paying their fare share and more besides..............they don't need to pay more...politicians need to spend less.....

We don't have a tax revenue problem...we have a greedy, corrupt politician problem....

Our politicians follow the golden rule.......

He who has the gold makes the rules

And you want to give them more of other peoples money....you are free to empty out your savings and send it to them...but that isn't what you want...you want to empty out the savings of people you don't know, but don't like.......and send that to politicians who couldn't spend the money we already gave responsibly........

You are the nut...

Hyperbole?

Best you got?

Asking the wealthy to pay at previous rates is"emptying out their savings"

No one should pay more than 15% of their money to the government. And everyone should pay the same taxes at the same rate....

Idiocy

How is that......a billionaire paying 15% will pay more in taxes than someone making 30,000 dollars....since they won't pay any income tax.......and someone making 60,000 dollars will pay less in taxes than the billionaire......

Everything you want......the poor pay nothing ,the rich pay more and the middle pays some....right?

But no..........you see the rich with the money left over...and that shade of green you turn is not pretty....

 

[Dragonlady]

Those who get rich do so because of the infrastructure provided by taxes. Transportation, roads, communication systems, patent protection, well educated workers, and a stable government. If it's just your own hard work, you could go to any country where there are no taxes paid and try it. See how far you get.

 

[2aguy]

Those who get rich do so because of the infrastructure provided by taxes. Transportation, roads, communication systems, patent protection, well educated workers, and a stable government. If it's just your own hard work, you could go to any country where there are no taxes paid and try it. See how far you get.

Nope......the rich pay the taxes that pay for the roads, and the infrastructure, their property taxes pay for the schools.......our laws protect everyone......

And who said anything about paying no taxes........

I just don't want the rich robbed by people who hate them...simply because they can use politicians to do the robbing....

 

[rightwinger]

Our politicians follow the golden rule.......

He who has the gold makes the rules

And you want to give them more of other peoples money....you are free to empty out your savings and send it to them...but that isn't what you want...you want to empty out the savings of people you don't know, but don't like.......and send that to politicians who couldn't spend the money we already gave responsibly........

You are the nut...

Hyperbole?

Best you got?

Asking the wealthy to pay at previous rates is"emptying out their savings"

No one should pay more than 15% of their money to the government. And everyone should pay the same taxes at the same rate....

Idiocy

How is that......a billionaire paying 15% will pay more in taxes than someone making 30,000 dollars....since they won't pay any income tax.......and someone making 60,000 dollars will pay less in taxes than the billionaire......

Everything you want......the poor pay nothing ,the rich pay more and the middle pays some....right?

But no..........you see the rich with the money left over...and that shade of green you turn is not pretty....

 

[2aguy]

Those who get rich do so because of the infrastructure provided by taxes. Transportation, roads, communication systems, patent protection, well educated workers, and a stable government. If it's just your own hard work, you could go to any country where there are no taxes paid and try it. See how far you get.

Who pays more towards the roads, schools and infrastructure...the millionaire or the guy making 50 grand a year.......? So the whole...you didn't build it really only applies to the poor...since they don't pay any taxes...and the taxes from those who worked for their money paid for everything....

 

[2aguy]

And you want to give them more of other peoples money....you are free to empty out your savings and send it to them...but that isn't what you want...you want to empty out the savings of people you don't know, but don't like.......and send that to politicians who couldn't spend the money we already gave responsibly........

You are the nut...

Hyperbole?

Best you got?

Asking the wealthy to pay at previous rates is"emptying out their savings"

No one should pay more than 15% of their money to the government. And everyone should pay the same taxes at the same rate....

Idiocy

How is that......a billionaire paying 15% will pay more in taxes than someone making 30,000 dollars....since they won't pay any income tax.......and someone making 60,000 dollars will pay less in taxes than the billionaire......

Everything you want......the poor pay nothing ,the rich pay more and the middle pays some....right?

But no..........you see the rich with the money left over...and that shade of green you turn is not pretty....

Oh...you posted the wrong picture....this is left wing equality...