Mother of 4 deported

Not necessarily. Crossing illegally and overstaying visas can still have penalties. AND the pathway for the undocumented can be less attractive and less incentivizing than the current legal path. Trying thinking out of the box
You're not thinking out of the box, you're just simply not thinking. Offering any path to citizenship for people who entered the US illegally is still an open invitation to 600,000,000 people living south of our border to violate our immigration laws: demonstrate your contempt for our laws by entering the US illegally and we will reward you by making you citizens.
I didn't say make them citizens. Are we at the point were you start distorting my argument because you don't want to consider or discuss other ideas? I said a pathway to legal status... and I said A harder more expensive more intensive path. Maybe they pay fines, are required todo community service, serve in military etc. my point is, there should be a path for existing undocumented. Penalties including deportation for new illegal crossers, and a more incentivizing path for people who wait in line an immigrate the legal way
lol Don't try to hide from your own words, a path to citizenship means making them citizens. Even with your fines and community service, what you are proposing is another amnesty, and this will only encourage more illegals to violate our immigration laws to get because the message you are sending is clear: violate our immigration laws and all you will have to do to become a US citizen is pay a fine and do some community service. Make it apply only to those who are already here? That's what you said the last time.

Undocumented is a weasel word. Every time you call them undocumented instead of what they are, illegal, you are expressing your own contempt for our immigration laws, which is expressing contempt for US sovereignty, the same contempt for our laws and sovereignty these illegals expressed when they came here. When you call them undocumented instead of illegal, you are saying it makes little difference if they showed respect for our laws by coming here legally or contempt for our laws by violating them.

Why should some one in Mexico choose to wait years to emigrate to the US legally if he can cross the border illegally now and after paying a fine become a US citizen? If we demonstrate we don't respect our own laws, as you clearly don't, by allowing illegals to become citizens, why would we expect anyone else to respect our laws? If we are to control our borders we must send a clear message that if you enter the US legally, we will make you welcome, but if you come illegally, we will do our best to make you unwelcome.
I said legal not citizen. I'd be fine with citizenship but I know the hizzy y'all get into when it comes to the vote so legal is a fine compromise as far as I'm concerned
Actually, you said with a path to citizenship but even if was only legal, the message to all the people who might want to come here illegally is the same, it's ok to to violate US immigration laws because once you get in, they will make you legal. It is still an open invitation to enter the US illegally.
It's not an invitation if there are penalties fines and a harder pathway for coming here illegally. I said everybody in the world has a pathway to citizenship here. Read slower
 
WILLHAFTAWAITE and Doc1... Did either of you put yourself in the position of this lady or her family. Think for just a second, what if this happened to my family?

Give one second to look at this with empathy or are you that selfish and entitled that you don't think that way about others?
How could American citizens put themselves in that position? The woman had twenty years to fix her problem. She did nothing. Take her kids with her to Mexico. I don't feel bad for them at all. SHE HAD TWENTY YEARS TO FIX IT!

We are talking about a completely irresponsible person here. From the report, it seems she doesn't know a word of English. If you just got here last week, somewhat understandable. But to not be able to communicate in a country you moved to 20 years ago? Come on now.
I speak Spanish pretty decent, but if I was being interviewed on Spanish TV I'm defaulting to English. Stop making assumptions about things you know nothing about.

She couldn't communicate in English. That's not an assumption, that's on the video you posted. She needed somebody to translate for her.
Again you presume things without really knowing. Perhaps she shy about how she sounds speaking English. You just don't know
 
You're not thinking out of the box, you're just simply not thinking. Offering any path to citizenship for people who entered the US illegally is still an open invitation to 600,000,000 people living south of our border to violate our immigration laws: demonstrate your contempt for our laws by entering the US illegally and we will reward you by making you citizens.
I didn't say make them citizens. Are we at the point were you start distorting my argument because you don't want to consider or discuss other ideas? I said a pathway to legal status... and I said A harder more expensive more intensive path. Maybe they pay fines, are required todo community service, serve in military etc. my point is, there should be a path for existing undocumented. Penalties including deportation for new illegal crossers, and a more incentivizing path for people who wait in line an immigrate the legal way
lol Don't try to hide from your own words, a path to citizenship means making them citizens. Even with your fines and community service, what you are proposing is another amnesty, and this will only encourage more illegals to violate our immigration laws to get because the message you are sending is clear: violate our immigration laws and all you will have to do to become a US citizen is pay a fine and do some community service. Make it apply only to those who are already here? That's what you said the last time.

Undocumented is a weasel word. Every time you call them undocumented instead of what they are, illegal, you are expressing your own contempt for our immigration laws, which is expressing contempt for US sovereignty, the same contempt for our laws and sovereignty these illegals expressed when they came here. When you call them undocumented instead of illegal, you are saying it makes little difference if they showed respect for our laws by coming here legally or contempt for our laws by violating them.

Why should some one in Mexico choose to wait years to emigrate to the US legally if he can cross the border illegally now and after paying a fine become a US citizen? If we demonstrate we don't respect our own laws, as you clearly don't, by allowing illegals to become citizens, why would we expect anyone else to respect our laws? If we are to control our borders we must send a clear message that if you enter the US legally, we will make you welcome, but if you come illegally, we will do our best to make you unwelcome.
I said legal not citizen. I'd be fine with citizenship but I know the hizzy y'all get into when it comes to the vote so legal is a fine compromise as far as I'm concerned
Actually, you said with a path to citizenship but even if was only legal, the message to all the people who might want to come here illegally is the same, it's ok to to violate US immigration laws because once you get in, they will make you legal. It is still an open invitation to enter the US illegally.
It's not an invitation if there are penalties fines and a harder pathway for coming here illegally. I said everybody in the world has a pathway to citizenship here. Read slower
Reagan amnestied 2 million and because of that we got 20 million more you dumb ass.
 
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Mamacita...

Take your litter of Anchor Baby pups with you...
 
Not necessarily. Crossing illegally and overstaying visas can still have penalties. AND the pathway for the undocumented can be less attractive and less incentivizing than the current legal path. Trying thinking out of the box
You're not thinking out of the box, you're just simply not thinking. Offering any path to citizenship for people who entered the US illegally is still an open invitation to 600,000,000 people living south of our border to violate our immigration laws: demonstrate your contempt for our laws by entering the US illegally and we will reward you by making you citizens.
I didn't say make them citizens. Are we at the point were you start distorting my argument because you don't want to consider or discuss other ideas? I said a pathway to legal status... and I said A harder more expensive more intensive path. Maybe they pay fines, are required todo community service, serve in military etc. my point is, there should be a path for existing undocumented. Penalties including deportation for new illegal crossers, and a more incentivizing path for people who wait in line an immigrate the legal way
lol Don't try to hide from your own words, a path to citizenship means making them citizens. Even with your fines and community service, what you are proposing is another amnesty, and this will only encourage more illegals to violate our immigration laws to get because the message you are sending is clear: violate our immigration laws and all you will have to do to become a US citizen is pay a fine and do some community service. Make it apply only to those who are already here? That's what you said the last time.

Undocumented is a weasel word. Every time you call them undocumented instead of what they are, illegal, you are expressing your own contempt for our immigration laws, which is expressing contempt for US sovereignty, the same contempt for our laws and sovereignty these illegals expressed when they came here. When you call them undocumented instead of illegal, you are saying it makes little difference if they showed respect for our laws by coming here legally or contempt for our laws by violating them.

Why should some one in Mexico choose to wait years to emigrate to the US legally if he can cross the border illegally now and after paying a fine become a US citizen? If we demonstrate we don't respect our own laws, as you clearly don't, by allowing illegals to become citizens, why would we expect anyone else to respect our laws? If we are to control our borders we must send a clear message that if you enter the US legally, we will make you welcome, but if you come illegally, we will do our best to make you unwelcome.
I think a system that makes people wait years before being able to come into our country is broken so that needs to be improved upon. As for the undocumented that are here something needs to be done and there will be a pathway presented in the near future as it is the only logical way to deal with the problem. I call them undocumented instead of illegal or alien because they are humans and I'm not an asshole

We don't need any more people here. We have enough of them. 315 million is not a nation starving for more population.
Drive across a few states. There is plenty of room
 
You're not thinking out of the box, you're just simply not thinking. Offering any path to citizenship for people who entered the US illegally is still an open invitation to 600,000,000 people living south of our border to violate our immigration laws: demonstrate your contempt for our laws by entering the US illegally and we will reward you by making you citizens.
I didn't say make them citizens. Are we at the point were you start distorting my argument because you don't want to consider or discuss other ideas? I said a pathway to legal status... and I said A harder more expensive more intensive path. Maybe they pay fines, are required todo community service, serve in military etc. my point is, there should be a path for existing undocumented. Penalties including deportation for new illegal crossers, and a more incentivizing path for people who wait in line an immigrate the legal way
lol Don't try to hide from your own words, a path to citizenship means making them citizens. Even with your fines and community service, what you are proposing is another amnesty, and this will only encourage more illegals to violate our immigration laws to get because the message you are sending is clear: violate our immigration laws and all you will have to do to become a US citizen is pay a fine and do some community service. Make it apply only to those who are already here? That's what you said the last time.

Undocumented is a weasel word. Every time you call them undocumented instead of what they are, illegal, you are expressing your own contempt for our immigration laws, which is expressing contempt for US sovereignty, the same contempt for our laws and sovereignty these illegals expressed when they came here. When you call them undocumented instead of illegal, you are saying it makes little difference if they showed respect for our laws by coming here legally or contempt for our laws by violating them.

Why should some one in Mexico choose to wait years to emigrate to the US legally if he can cross the border illegally now and after paying a fine become a US citizen? If we demonstrate we don't respect our own laws, as you clearly don't, by allowing illegals to become citizens, why would we expect anyone else to respect our laws? If we are to control our borders we must send a clear message that if you enter the US legally, we will make you welcome, but if you come illegally, we will do our best to make you unwelcome.
I think a system that makes people wait years before being able to come into our country is broken so that needs to be improved upon. As for the undocumented that are here something needs to be done and there will be a pathway presented in the near future as it is the only logical way to deal with the problem. I call them undocumented instead of illegal or alien because they are humans and I'm not an asshole

We don't need any more people here. We have enough of them. 315 million is not a nation starving for more population.
Drive across a few states. There is plenty of room

Didn't say we didn't have any room, what I said is we don't need anymore people here. These people have nothing to offer us and are no contribution to our society.
 
Not necessarily. Crossing illegally and overstaying visas can still have penalties. AND the pathway for the undocumented can be less attractive and less incentivizing than the current legal path. Trying thinking out of the box

We already did that with the Reagan era amnesty. You have to seal the border or you get what we got. We do NOT need to rinse and repeat. Amnesty has already been granted so the next step is to seal the border. You don't get to keep repeating step 1. Surely you see how that just creates an exponentially bigger problem. Seal the border and then you can start talking "path to status," as the numbers are at least finite.
I agree, but I don't see why we can't discuss a plan about what to do about millions of undocumented people who live here at the same time as we work on the border
Again, undocumented is a weasel word that suggests entering the US illegally is just a trivial clerical matter and not an expression of contempt for US law and sovereignty. There is only one thing to do about the millions of illegals which sends the correct policy message to others who want to come here, send them back to where they came from.
Yes to a degree I think it's trivial. It's paperwork. It's unfair to those who immigrate legally so there should be punishment, but banishment is too extreme IMO. I committed the same crime in high school. Got a fake ID to buy booze. I don't think I should be sent to jail 20 years later if that ID was found. I believe in every humans unalienable right for life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. While I committed my felony to buy booze these people committed theirs to give their family's a better life. Some coming from third world crime filled cesspools. While I think we need a system that works better and I believe we should be more organized than simple open borders, I also have compassion for these people as humans. They should face consequences but not be discarded like common criminals.
That's just irresponsible bullshit. Of course most of them come here because they want a better life for themselves and their families, but if they had committed similar offenses in their home countries and had police records for these crimes, they wouldn't have been allowed to come here legally, so what you are proposing is giving preferential treatment to them because they broke the law and got away with it for a while. Apparently, what motivates you to post such nonsense is not just your claim to have feelings of compassion for these people, but also a deep feeling of contempt for America and its laws.
I love America and I respect some laws and see room for reform with other laws. As you know our laws are in an evolving system that change with the will of our people. I've expressed my opinion on the matter and though I don't agree I respect yours as well.

I don't know where you get this preferential treatment statement from. You are distorting my statements again, so apparently you are the dishonest one. I've said create a pathway and make it a harder less incentivize pathway than the legal route. I don't think I can say it any plainer.
 
WILLHAFTAWAITE and Doc1... Did either of you put yourself in the position of this lady or her family. Think for just a second, what if this happened to my family?

Give one second to look at this with empathy or are you that selfish and entitled that you don't think that way about others?
How could American citizens put themselves in that position? The woman had twenty years to fix her problem. She did nothing. Take her kids with her to Mexico. I don't feel bad for them at all. SHE HAD TWENTY YEARS TO FIX IT!

We are talking about a completely irresponsible person here. From the report, it seems she doesn't know a word of English. If you just got here last week, somewhat understandable. But to not be able to communicate in a country you moved to 20 years ago? Come on now.
I speak Spanish pretty decent, but if I was being interviewed on Spanish TV I'm defaulting to English. Stop making assumptions about things you know nothing about.

She couldn't communicate in English. That's not an assumption, that's on the video you posted. She needed somebody to translate for her.
Again you presume things without really knowing. Perhaps she shy about how she sounds speaking English. You just don't know

What I know is I don't need an interpreter to understand what anybody is saying to me. As for your coy theory, she needed an interpreter to tell her what the people speaking English were saying to her.
 
Not necessarily. Crossing illegally and overstaying visas can still have penalties. AND the pathway for the undocumented can be less attractive and less incentivizing than the current legal path. Trying thinking out of the box
You're not thinking out of the box, you're just simply not thinking. Offering any path to citizenship for people who entered the US illegally is still an open invitation to 600,000,000 people living south of our border to violate our immigration laws: demonstrate your contempt for our laws by entering the US illegally and we will reward you by making you citizens.
I didn't say make them citizens. Are we at the point were you start distorting my argument because you don't want to consider or discuss other ideas? I said a pathway to legal status... and I said A harder more expensive more intensive path. Maybe they pay fines, are required todo community service, serve in military etc. my point is, there should be a path for existing undocumented. Penalties including deportation for new illegal crossers, and a more incentivizing path for people who wait in line an immigrate the legal way
lol Don't try to hide from your own words, a path to citizenship means making them citizens. Even with your fines and community service, what you are proposing is another amnesty, and this will only encourage more illegals to violate our immigration laws to get because the message you are sending is clear: violate our immigration laws and all you will have to do to become a US citizen is pay a fine and do some community service. Make it apply only to those who are already here? That's what you said the last time.

Undocumented is a weasel word. Every time you call them undocumented instead of what they are, illegal, you are expressing your own contempt for our immigration laws, which is expressing contempt for US sovereignty, the same contempt for our laws and sovereignty these illegals expressed when they came here. When you call them undocumented instead of illegal, you are saying it makes little difference if they showed respect for our laws by coming here legally or contempt for our laws by violating them.

Why should some one in Mexico choose to wait years to emigrate to the US legally if he can cross the border illegally now and after paying a fine become a US citizen? If we demonstrate we don't respect our own laws, as you clearly don't, by allowing illegals to become citizens, why would we expect anyone else to respect our laws? If we are to control our borders we must send a clear message that if you enter the US legally, we will make you welcome, but if you come illegally, we will do our best to make you unwelcome.
I think a system that makes people wait years before being able to come into our country is broken so that needs to be improved upon. As for the undocumented that are here something needs to be done and there will be a pathway presented in the near future as it is the only logical way to deal with the problem. I call them undocumented instead of illegal or alien because they are humans and I'm not an asshole
I call them undocumented instead of illegal or alien because they are humans and I'm not an asshole
:eusa_boohoo:

They are human.

They are also in this country ILLEGALLY.

"undocumented"

PC bullshit.

You can call a trash man a Sanitation Engineer, but his job hasn't changed.

You can call a prison guard a corrections officer, but his job hasn't changed.

You can make up PC names for everything under the sun, but it wont' change the facts.

She is here ILLEGALLY, not UNDOCUMENTED.
You can also call a black man a Niger. Go try it out a few times and see how it works out for ya.
 
I have no sympathy for illegals NONE. My family members can't get here because we are over run with millions of illegals and you turds want to make it so millions more come.
I would love for our system to make the pathway for your family members quicker and easier. If they are good hard working people with family that live here they shouldnt be waiting for so long.
 
For the 30th time I'll correct you simpletons who either ignore the facts or don't take the time to actually understand the story
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Everyone read and understood the first 29 times you told the story. Has it occurred to you that most people have no sympathy for criminal trespassers that forges government documents and leaches off the tax payers for entitlements for 20 years? You need to broaden your tunnel vision.

For 18 years she voluntarily checked in with ICE as instructed and was told she could stay. Her visa violation made her unable to get legal papers so our government kept her in a state of limbo as she obided by the rules they set forth.
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She was more than lucky to get to stay for those additional 18 years and yet you're still complaining.
Now that the orange prince .
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Racist much?

is ruling ICE seems to be getting more aggressive so when she checked in with ICE she got the boot.
.
You mean Trump is finally enforcing the law of the land made by our founding fathers???? My God, the horror!!!!
Imagine for a second that this happened to your family
My grandparents came here LEGALLY from Italy. They didn't jump no borders nor did they forge government documents. They learn to speak English and worked hard to provide for the family instead of leaching off the tax payers for welfare. Can you not see the difference?
Also for the 30th time, do you know what ILLEGAL immigrant means? How can you not comprehend that?
or the family of somebody you love. It would suck
I don't associate with criminals.

Also during the first 30 times you told this story, why no mention on how much money she sucked out of the tax payers for welfare? How many times did she illegally voted?
 
I didn't say make them citizens. Are we at the point were you start distorting my argument because you don't want to consider or discuss other ideas? I said a pathway to legal status... and I said A harder more expensive more intensive path. Maybe they pay fines, are required todo community service, serve in military etc. my point is, there should be a path for existing undocumented. Penalties including deportation for new illegal crossers, and a more incentivizing path for people who wait in line an immigrate the legal way
lol Don't try to hide from your own words, a path to citizenship means making them citizens. Even with your fines and community service, what you are proposing is another amnesty, and this will only encourage more illegals to violate our immigration laws to get because the message you are sending is clear: violate our immigration laws and all you will have to do to become a US citizen is pay a fine and do some community service. Make it apply only to those who are already here? That's what you said the last time.

Undocumented is a weasel word. Every time you call them undocumented instead of what they are, illegal, you are expressing your own contempt for our immigration laws, which is expressing contempt for US sovereignty, the same contempt for our laws and sovereignty these illegals expressed when they came here. When you call them undocumented instead of illegal, you are saying it makes little difference if they showed respect for our laws by coming here legally or contempt for our laws by violating them.

Why should some one in Mexico choose to wait years to emigrate to the US legally if he can cross the border illegally now and after paying a fine become a US citizen? If we demonstrate we don't respect our own laws, as you clearly don't, by allowing illegals to become citizens, why would we expect anyone else to respect our laws? If we are to control our borders we must send a clear message that if you enter the US legally, we will make you welcome, but if you come illegally, we will do our best to make you unwelcome.
I think a system that makes people wait years before being able to come into our country is broken so that needs to be improved upon. As for the undocumented that are here something needs to be done and there will be a pathway presented in the near future as it is the only logical way to deal with the problem. I call them undocumented instead of illegal or alien because they are humans and I'm not an asshole

We don't need any more people here. We have enough of them. 315 million is not a nation starving for more population.
Drive across a few states. There is plenty of room

Didn't say we didn't have any room, what I said is we don't need anymore people here. These people have nothing to offer us and are no contribution to our society.
Most of them do the jobs that our spoiled entitled asses don't want to do. And they get completely taken advantage of. That's a fact.
 
lol Don't try to hide from your own words, a path to citizenship means making them citizens. Even with your fines and community service, what you are proposing is another amnesty, and this will only encourage more illegals to violate our immigration laws to get because the message you are sending is clear: violate our immigration laws and all you will have to do to become a US citizen is pay a fine and do some community service. Make it apply only to those who are already here? That's what you said the last time.

Undocumented is a weasel word. Every time you call them undocumented instead of what they are, illegal, you are expressing your own contempt for our immigration laws, which is expressing contempt for US sovereignty, the same contempt for our laws and sovereignty these illegals expressed when they came here. When you call them undocumented instead of illegal, you are saying it makes little difference if they showed respect for our laws by coming here legally or contempt for our laws by violating them.

Why should some one in Mexico choose to wait years to emigrate to the US legally if he can cross the border illegally now and after paying a fine become a US citizen? If we demonstrate we don't respect our own laws, as you clearly don't, by allowing illegals to become citizens, why would we expect anyone else to respect our laws? If we are to control our borders we must send a clear message that if you enter the US legally, we will make you welcome, but if you come illegally, we will do our best to make you unwelcome.
I think a system that makes people wait years before being able to come into our country is broken so that needs to be improved upon. As for the undocumented that are here something needs to be done and there will be a pathway presented in the near future as it is the only logical way to deal with the problem. I call them undocumented instead of illegal or alien because they are humans and I'm not an asshole

We don't need any more people here. We have enough of them. 315 million is not a nation starving for more population.
Drive across a few states. There is plenty of room

Didn't say we didn't have any room, what I said is we don't need anymore people here. These people have nothing to offer us and are no contribution to our society.
Most of them do the jobs that our spoiled entitled asses don't want to do. And they get completely taken advantage of. That's a fact.

There are no jobs an American won't do provided the compensation is fair.. When these people come here and take our jobs, it lowers wages for us real Americans. We don't need that right now.
 
For the 30th time I'll correct you simpletons who either ignore the facts or don't take the time to actually understand the story
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Everyone read and understood the first 29 times you told the story. Has it occurred to you that most people have no sympathy for criminal trespassers that forges government documents and leaches off the tax payers for entitlements for 20 years? You need to broaden your tunnel vision.

For 18 years she voluntarily checked in with ICE as instructed and was told she could stay. Her visa violation made her unable to get legal papers so our government kept her in a state of limbo as she obided by the rules they set forth.
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She was more than lucky to get to stay for those additional 18 years and yet you're still complaining.
Now that the orange prince .
.
Racist much?

is ruling ICE seems to be getting more aggressive so when she checked in with ICE she got the boot.
.
You mean Trump is finally enforcing the law of the land made by our founding fathers???? My God, the horror!!!!
Imagine for a second that this happened to your family
My grandparents came here LEGALLY from Italy. They didn't jump no borders nor did they forge government documents. They learn to speak English and worked hard to provide for the family instead of leaching off the tax payers for welfare. Can you not see the difference?
Also for the 30th time, do you know what ILLEGAL immigrant means? How can you not comprehend that?
or the family of somebody you love. It would suck
I don't associate with criminals.

Also during the first 30 times you told this story, why no mention on how much money she sucked out of the tax payers for welfare? How many times did she illegally voted?
I don't have any of those details so why would I come t about them. You are just gonna presume she was illegally voting and milking our welfare system? Real smart
 
Try crossing into the Muslem countries that the left seems to protect or a Sharia dominated country with a fake visa or try entering North Korea and get 15 years at hard labor. I'm sure U.S. authorities would not stop the children from going to Mexico with their mother. Get used to it lefties, the criminals who are in the U.S. illegally are going back if they commit a crime.


6 mos later, Mexico would lock up the kids for being down there illegally............or over-stay of "reverse" Visa.

If the mother is Mexican, wouldn't her kids be Mexican citizens also?
If either parent is a US citizen at the time of the birth, then the child is a natural born US citizen.

Try reading the thread. Your response has nothing to do with the discussion.
 
I disagree. I believe in these things called inalienable rights for all humans

How does that work? Everyone in the World has an INALIENABLE RIGHT to come to America?

No different than any other criminal.

For 20 years she had no second thoughts about becoming a legal immigrant or a citizen and was a happy camper. She and the family are ONLY SORRY because they got CAUGHT.

You never see a criminal weeping because they are sorry for committing a crime, ONLY for getting caught.
For the 30th time I'll correct you simpletons who either ignore the facts or don't take the time to actually understand the story. For 18 years she voluntarily checked in with ICE as instructed and was told she could stay. Her visa violation made her unable to get legal papers so our government kept her in a state of limbo as she obided by the rules they set forth. Now that the orange prince is ruling ICE seems to be getting more aggressive so when she checked in with ICE she got the boot. Imagine for a second that this happened to your family or the family of somebody you love. It would suck

Nope. Can't happen. I don't have illegal aliens in my family.
 
I have no sympathy for illegals NONE. My family members can't get here because we are over run with millions of illegals and you turds want to make it so millions more come.
I would love for our system to make the pathway for your family members quicker and easier. If they are good hard working people with family that live here they shouldnt be waiting for so long.

RetiredGySgt has already explained that he can't get his family here because too many ILLEGALS such as that document forger woman that you adore so much and millions like her has cut in line draining resources.
 
For the 30th time I'll correct you simpletons who either ignore the facts or don't take the time to actually understand the story
.

Everyone read and understood the first 29 times you told the story. Has it occurred to you that most people have no sympathy for criminal trespassers that forges government documents and leaches off the tax payers for entitlements for 20 years? You need to broaden your tunnel vision.

For 18 years she voluntarily checked in with ICE as instructed and was told she could stay. Her visa violation made her unable to get legal papers so our government kept her in a state of limbo as she obided by the rules they set forth.
.
She was more than lucky to get to stay for those additional 18 years and yet you're still complaining.
Now that the orange prince .
.
Racist much?

is ruling ICE seems to be getting more aggressive so when she checked in with ICE she got the boot.
.
You mean Trump is finally enforcing the law of the land made by our founding fathers???? My God, the horror!!!!
Imagine for a second that this happened to your family
My grandparents came here LEGALLY from Italy. They didn't jump no borders nor did they forge government documents. They learn to speak English and worked hard to provide for the family instead of leaching off the tax payers for welfare. Can you not see the difference?
Also for the 30th time, do you know what ILLEGAL immigrant means? How can you not comprehend that?
or the family of somebody you love. It would suck
I don't associate with criminals.

Also during the first 30 times you told this story, why no mention on how much money she sucked out of the tax payers for welfare? How many times did she illegally voted?
I don't have any of those details so why would I come t about them. You are just gonna presume she was illegally voting and milking our welfare system? Real smart

She obviously wasn't wasting her time trying to learn how to speak English!
 
I think a system that makes people wait years before being able to come into our country is broken so that needs to be improved upon. As for the undocumented that are here something needs to be done and there will be a pathway presented in the near future as it is the only logical way to deal with the problem. I call them undocumented instead of illegal or alien because they are humans and I'm not an asshole

We don't need any more people here. We have enough of them. 315 million is not a nation starving for more population.
Drive across a few states. There is plenty of room

Didn't say we didn't have any room, what I said is we don't need anymore people here. These people have nothing to offer us and are no contribution to our society.
Most of them do the jobs that our spoiled entitled asses don't want to do. And they get completely taken advantage of. That's a fact.

There are no jobs an American won't do provided the compensation is fair.. When these people come here and take our jobs, it lowers wages for us real Americans. We don't need that right now.
That's your opinion. I'd hope educated American citizens would strive a little higher in the workforce than immigrants that are still trying to learn the language and earn their citizenship
 

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