Mother of 4 deported

[BrokeLoser]

WILLHAFTAWAITE and Doc1... Did either of you put yourself in the position of this lady or her family. Think for just a second, what if this happened to my family?

Give one second to look at this with empathy or are you that selfish and entitled that you don't think that way about others?

My mother is a naturalized citizen. She came here legally and followed the rules.

Was there no point in the last 20 years this woman could have applied for citizenship?

Not sure, from the limited information I got in the story she was unable to get legal papers and was told she could stay as long as she checked in with ICE twice a year which she did for 12 years. I'm sure there is more to the story but as it's told it's pretty heartbreaking... for those that have hearts.

I have a huge heart....and I'd love to use your checkbook to convey my concern?

 

[Slade3200]

I just saw this story on CNN. This mother of 4 got caught trying to cross the border with a fake visa 20 years ago, because of this she couldn't not get another visa but was told she could stay in the US but had to check in with ICE twice a year, which she did for the past 18 years. Now her entire family is here (mother, husband, 4 children and they are all American citizens. CNN covers her journey to check in with ICE as they were all nervous about the changes that came with President Trump.

She met with ICE and they told her she was good for another year. She left the building, gave her children hugs and then got called back in by ICE to find out that they were deporting her in July.

I get deporting violent criminals, I hear people asking Trump and his surrogates what they will do with non-violent criminal illegal immigrants and I hear them kicking the can saying they will deal with it later. But then I see stories like this were a mother who is not a violent criminal gets deported and a family is ripped apart.

Thoughts?

Im all for legal immigration, deporting all the criminal ones but beyond that I think we should still be capable of making some case by case exceptions when they come up like this one.

The WHOLE POINT, of the left bringing up these cases is that they want to make law based on these extreme cases.


They want the open border.

Wrong, people like me spread these stories to expose the real human element in this issue. It's a counter balance to those who talk about these people like they are filthy scum criminals running around raping and murdering innocent Americans.

 

[Rustic]

The Problem with all these illegal aliens is the cost of them to the country... socialism is nothing but diminishing return

 

[Dschrute3]

If she doesn't have any other criminal offenses, let her stay with her family. Let's not go all 'Nazi' on this. It will only create a massive backlash that will sweep the Open Borders Democrats back into power. So let's be reasonable. I'm fine with allowing here to stay.

NEGATIVE!
Grab your sack and stop being afraid to do the right thing for the long term. They all have a sob story.

She's harmless. Let her stay with her family. If we go too far, the Open Borders folks will sweep back into power.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I just saw this story on CNN. This mother of 4 got caught trying to cross the border with a fake visa 20 years ago, because of this she couldn't not get another visa but was told she could stay in the US but had to check in with ICE twice a year, which she did for the past 18 years. Now her entire family is here (mother, husband, 4 children and they are all American citizens. CNN covers her journey to check in with ICE as they were all nervous about the changes that came with President Trump.

She met with ICE and they told her she was good for another year. She left the building, gave her children hugs and then got called back in by ICE to find out that they were deporting her in July.

I get deporting violent criminals, I hear people asking Trump and his surrogates what they will do with non-violent criminal illegal immigrants and I hear them kicking the can saying they will deal with it later. But then I see stories like this were a mother who is not a violent criminal gets deported and a family is ripped apart.

Thoughts?

Yeah, make her work off the cost of her processing in a work camp making license plates and then drop her off the coast of Mexico about 3 miles and let her swim back home.

I am sick to death with these fucking criminals.

 

[toomuchtime_]

If she doesn't have any other criminal offenses, let her stay with her family. Let's not go all 'Nazi' on this. It will only create a massive backlash that will sweep the Open Borders Democrats back into power. So let's be reasonable. I'm fine with allowing here to stay.

Are you fine with twenty million more illegals coming here? If she is allowed to stay, the message you are sending to some one in Mexico who is waiting for years ti emigrate to the US legally is, if you enter the US legally, they will allow you to stay, so why wait? We cannot control illegal immigration if we are sending the message that if you get here illegally, we will allow you to stay legally. You are suggesting, in effect, that in order to keep the open border Democrats from regaining power, Republicans have to become open border Republicans.

 

[Auld Phart]

Heart of stone with no regard for a family in trouble?

Do you have a problem with rapists, drunk drivers, murderers, etc getting their just desserts as well?

The man in question nor any of his American children are any of those bad hombres you wrote about.

Not the point.

Is your head as soft as your heart?

She broke the law.

Despite attempts, she is finally being held responsible for breaking the law.

You're crying because it is breaking up the family.

When a rapist, murderer, drug dealer, etc goes to prison, they are separated from their families.

I see no reason she can't be separated from hers.

I can personally attest to this.

10+ years as a CO, I can as well

God help your employees.

My 'employees'?

You have me confused.

I didn't have 'employees', I was in charge of various murderers, wife beaters, arsonists, drug peddlers, etc.

and not ON# of them had their wives staying with them.

A couple had their sons with them, but only because they took after daddy.

 

[Eloy]

Heart of stone with no regard for a family in trouble?

Do you have a problem with rapists, drunk drivers, murderers, etc getting their just desserts as well?

The man in question nor any of his American children are any of those bad hombres you wrote about.

Not the point.

Is your head as soft as your heart?

She broke the law.

Despite attempts, she is finally being held responsible for breaking the law.

You're crying because it is breaking up the family.

When a rapist, murderer, drug dealer, etc goes to prison, they are separated from their families.

I see no reason she can't be separated from hers.

I can personally attest to this.

A monkey would have more compassion than you demonstrate.

A monkey would have more compassion than you demonstrate.

and more brains than you demonstrate

You are correct; if I had more brains I would quit posting here.

 

[Slade3200]

Technically, if she's an illegal, she shouldn't have a job, and it's the leftists that constantly say we should hold those employers responsible for hiring illegals.

I read several articles about this woman since the OP, and not one discussed her husband. WTF is this guy at? What does he do for a living? It seems to be part of her life they don't want to report.

So I have my suspicions. I would think that if this husband was an American, he would be front and center in the media to support his wife.

Just too many holes in this story; too many questions that were never addressed.

The only "hole" was the one she crawled through to enter illegally.

Not even sure why this thread is 40 pages long. She broke the law & was finally held accountable

Not everyone on USMessageBoard has a heart of stone with no regard for a family in trouble.

Heart of stone with no regard for a family in trouble?

Do you have a problem with rapists, drunk drivers, murderers, etc getting their just desserts as well?

The man in question nor any of his American children are any of those bad hombres you wrote about.

Not the point.

Is your head as soft as your heart?

She broke the law.

Despite attempts, she is finally being held responsible for breaking the law.

You're crying because it is breaking up the family.

When a rapist, murderer, drug dealer, etc goes to prison, they are separated from their families.

I see no reason she can't be separated from hers.

The fact that you are equating her to a rapist, murderer, drug dealer just highlights the problem. It's where the word deplorable came from. I'm sure that makes you proud

 

[jasonnfree]

Correct. There is something about a UNIFORMED law and order that does make this country great. Sorry you don't feel that way. It's not like this woman mailed a form that didn't get to the immigration office. It's not like she took every measure possible to correct the situation she was in. It's not like she took her place in line like other foreigners who value this country. She forged documents, snuck in, was allowed to stay while knowing she was illegal, and had a huge family anyway uncertain of her plight.

As I stated repeatedly, she has four children and no reports on how she supports them. Yes, she is married, but in a place like Chicago, the husband would have to be making a six figure salary in order to support a family of six. It's easy to assume that besides having these kids, she had no way to support them as well. WE ARE SUPPORTING THEM!

Yes, I heard the cost of living in America is very high. It will be higher when Trump repeals the Affordable Care Act. But this might make America even greater. I could be wrong.

How will it be higher by getting rid of Commie Care? Please explain those dynamics.

I saw summaries on TV which took various examples of how much higher insurance will be for people if the law being proposed gets passed. It was quite ironic as those who will be hurt most are typical Trump voters.

If the obamacare penalty for not having insurance is dropped, the cost of living will go down for many people who don't want health insurance.

When Americans die they will have no insurance bills whatever. How about that?

I will agree with you that if someone dies they will not have any insurance bills to pay, since they will be dead. I'm not sure what that has to do with the subject at hand.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Wrong, people like me spread these stories to expose the real human element in this issue. It's a counter balance to those who talk about these people like they are filthy scum criminals running around raping and murdering innocent Americans.

No, you are running interference for the drug cartels and the human traffickers that are exploiting millions of people in this country who should not be here, not to mention sustaining and maintaining public tolerance for a vast network of smuggling, safe houses and criminals that steal ID's and ruin lives of American citizens with ID theft, drugs and crime.

Fuck that bitch and every dumbass like you that thinks she is a victim. She isnt.

 

[Slade3200]

I just saw this story on CNN. This mother of 4 got caught trying to cross the border with a fake visa 20 years ago, because of this she couldn't not get another visa but was told she could stay in the US but had to check in with ICE twice a year, which she did for the past 18 years. Now her entire family is here (mother, husband, 4 children and they are all American citizens. CNN covers her journey to check in with ICE as they were all nervous about the changes that came with President Trump.

She met with ICE and they told her she was good for another year. She left the building, gave her children hugs and then got called back in by ICE to find out that they were deporting her in July.

I get deporting violent criminals, I hear people asking Trump and his surrogates what they will do with non-violent criminal illegal immigrants and I hear them kicking the can saying they will deal with it later. But then I see stories like this were a mother who is not a violent criminal gets deported and a family is ripped apart.

Thoughts?

She did not report for 18 years, only thee last two. And I don't feel bad for her at all. She is a criminal.

I believe the report said she had been reporting for the past 12 years

First Slade she reported 2 times a year for 18 years and now it's down to a few times the last 12 years.

Yeah that was my mistake, I thought it was 18 then rewatched the story and heard the reporter say 12.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The only "hole" was the one she crawled through to enter illegally.

Not even sure why this thread is 40 pages long. She broke the law & was finally held accountable

Not everyone on USMessageBoard has a heart of stone with no regard for a family in trouble.

Heart of stone with no regard for a family in trouble?

Do you have a problem with rapists, drunk drivers, murderers, etc getting their just desserts as well?

The man in question nor any of his American children are any of those bad hombres you wrote about.

Not the point.

Is your head as soft as your heart?

She broke the law.

Despite attempts, she is finally being held responsible for breaking the law.

You're crying because it is breaking up the family.

When a rapist, murderer, drug dealer, etc goes to prison, they are separated from their families.

I see no reason she can't be separated from hers.

The fact that you are equating her to a rapist, murderer, drug dealer just highlights the problem. It's where the word deplorable came from. I'm sure that makes you proud

There is truth to your words. BUT where do we draw the line?

 

[BrokeLoser]

If she doesn't have any other criminal offenses, let her stay with her family. Let's not go all 'Nazi' on this. It will only create a massive backlash that will sweep the Open Borders Democrats back into power. So let's be reasonable. I'm fine with allowing here to stay.

NEGATIVE!
Grab your sack and stop being afraid to do the right thing for the long term. They all have a sob story.

She's harmless. Let her stay with her family. If we go too far, the Open Borders folks will sweep back into power.

No way...like I said, they all have a touching back story. It's time to rule that border with an iron fist.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The fact that you are equating her to a rapist, murderer, drug dealer just highlights the problem. It's where the word deplorable came from. I'm sure that makes you proud

You are defending that criminal and every thug that exploits her and millions like her.

 

[Dschrute3]

If she doesn't have any other criminal offenses, let her stay with her family. Let's not go all 'Nazi' on this. It will only create a massive backlash that will sweep the Open Borders Democrats back into power. So let's be reasonable. I'm fine with allowing here to stay.

Are you fine with twenty million more illegals coming here? If she is allowed to stay, the message you are sending to some one in Mexico who is waiting for years ti emigrate to the US legally is, if you enter the US legally, they will allow you to stay, so why wait? We cannot control illegal immigration if we are sending the message that if you get here illegally, we will allow you to stay legally. You are suggesting, in effect, that in order to keep the open border Democrats from regaining power, Republicans have to become open border Republicans.

Let's take it case by case. But at the same time, let's secure our border and end Illegal Immigration. I'm with you on that. But this woman isn't a threat to our nation. Let her stay with her family and let's move on.

 

[Slade3200]

I just saw this story on CNN. This mother of 4 got caught trying to cross the border with a fake visa 20 years ago, because of this she couldn't not get another visa but was told she could stay in the US but had to check in with ICE twice a year, which she did for the past 18 years. Now her entire family is here (mother, husband, 4 children and they are all American citizens. CNN covers her journey to check in with ICE as they were all nervous about the changes that came with President Trump.

She met with ICE and they told her she was good for another year. She left the building, gave her children hugs and then got called back in by ICE to find out that they were deporting her in July.

I get deporting violent criminals, I hear people asking Trump and his surrogates what they will do with non-violent criminal illegal immigrants and I hear them kicking the can saying they will deal with it later. But then I see stories like this were a mother who is not a violent criminal gets deported and a family is ripped apart.

Thoughts?

Sooo....She committed a crime 20 years ago and is just now paying a price for X crime? WOW! What a pussy ass country we are...huh? Take your husband and children back to beautiful Mexico with you...no break up required...problem solved. So what's the big issue here?

Obviously there is no issue in your mind. I've articulated my thoughts about it. I can't explain it any clearer 40 pages later.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Isnt that the stupid bitch that was convicted of Identity Theft?

How the hell is she a victim here? She should be busting rocks in prison.

 

[Auld Phart]

The only "hole" was the one she crawled through to enter illegally.

Not even sure why this thread is 40 pages long. She broke the law & was finally held accountable

Not everyone on USMessageBoard has a heart of stone with no regard for a family in trouble.

Heart of stone with no regard for a family in trouble?

Do you have a problem with rapists, drunk drivers, murderers, etc getting their just desserts as well?

The man in question nor any of his American children are any of those bad hombres you wrote about.

Not the point.

Is your head as soft as your heart?

She broke the law.

Despite attempts, she is finally being held responsible for breaking the law.

You're crying because it is breaking up the family.

When a rapist, murderer, drug dealer, etc goes to prison, they are separated from their families.

I see no reason she can't be separated from hers.

The fact that you are equating her to a rapist, murderer, drug dealer just highlights the problem. It's where the word deplorable came from. I'm sure that makes you proud

Bud, you want to call me a deplorable, have fun.

after 20+ years in the Navy, and 10+ as a prison guard, I don't worry about sissy names like that.

She broke the law, I want her to pay for that, you don't.

It's hard to tell which is softer, your heart, or your skull.

 

[toomuchtime_]

WILLHAFTAWAITE and Doc1... Did either of you put yourself in the position of this lady or her family. Think for just a second, what if this happened to my family?

Give one second to look at this with empathy or are you that selfish and entitled that you don't think that way about others?

My mother is a naturalized citizen. She came here legally and followed the rules.

Was there no point in the last 20 years this woman could have applied for citizenship?

In fact, 18 years ago she did apply for a green card but in the course of investigating her application, it was discovered she had used false documents to gain a visa to come here in the first place, so she was denied a green card and she then had no path to citizenship.