Mueller Indicts 13 Russian Nationals For Election Meddling

[impuretrash]

Sounds like the Trump zealots are getting a bit nervous


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Says an increasingly nervous man for the 70th time since the election...

 

[JBond]

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Academic at heart of Clinton 'dirt' claim vanishes, leaving trail of questions
By Tim Lister and Nic Robertson, CNN

Updated 10:40 AM ET, Fri November 10, 2017

Man at heart of Clinton 'dirt' claim disappears
(CNN)Joseph Mifsud, the Maltese academic suspected of being a link between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, was once a regular on the foreign policy circuit, attending conferences the world over.

Now, after being identified as a key figure in the US special counsel investigation into Russian influence over the 2016 US presidential election, Mifsud has gone to ground.
Last Thursday he disappeared from the private university in Rome where he teaches. Repeated attempts to reach him since have been unsuccessful, though he appears to have read some messages from CNN.
But more details are emerging of the background and contacts of the man who emerged last week as "the professor" in court filings relating to charges brought against former Trump aide George Papadopoulos.
In the US affidavit, Papadopoulos claims Mifsud -- referred to as "Foreign Contact 1" -- told him in April 2016 that the Russians had "thousands of emails" relating to Hillary Clinton.

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Interesting. I wonder if he will turn up with his throat crushed like the Hatian official set to testify against the Clinton corruption.

 

[Meathead]

If it means there has been no collusion, we must be close to the end of this investigation, right? Sounds like the end.

On the contrary. Rosenstein was very careful to state that "There is no allegation of any American's involvement in this indictment". Very open ended statement. Plus now Gates has turned, and Barron answered questions from Mueller's people for 20 hours, answered all questions. I think that this investigation has a long ways to go yet.

BANNON, Old Rocks, NOT BARRON. I had to Google it. I couldn't figure out how Mueller managed to interview the kid but not the father.

Anyway, it's a bit sad that you had to google to figure out Old Rock's dyslexia.

 

[Darkwind]

At 3:25 and particularly at 5:25 are the two pertinent statements.

 

[playtime]

Since no American has been charged, will this be the end of the nonsense? Part of the indictment is that the Russians organized anti Trump efforts to undermine his Presidency. Will that lead to eventual indictments of Democrats?

This might be Mueller's swan song. He did what he was supposed to do.

yes, that's right. the (D)s conspired with the roooskies to have hillary lose.

you are a whackadoodle.

 

[flacaltenn]

From the CNBC link.....

Alone, the ads don't appear to look much different from what you're probably used to seeing on Facebook. But the contradictory messages across them suggest the Russian government was trying to exacerbate political divisions in the U.S. population.

"exacerbating political divisions" is NOT meddling in an election. It favors neither side. It just pours GAS on our OWN fires and EXISTING divisions..

You all for that, FCT?
They had no right to do that. Don't let them do anymore money laundering in Manhattan. That oughta fix 'em.

The old Kremlin guard has a grudge. WE (our country) noticed the cracks in the Soviet Union developing and WE did the same to them. Didn't CAUSE the collapse of the Soviet Union -- we just gently PUSHED public opinion to LOSE FAITH in their leadership.. It's a grudge match.

Putin could NEVER collapse the American political system without MASSIVE HELP from the partisan warriors themselves. YOU party animal did the damage leading to daily systemic rot. Putin didn't do that. He just wants shits and giggles "HELPING" you to kill my country..

We caused their collapse. We forced them into an arms race that broke their weak economic back. Guns or bread? They chose guns and their starving populace gave them the boot.

Sure. From normal competitive pressures. We also FLOODED their populace with "truer media" than any Russian was able to get from their own govt media.

But we NEVER "favored or selected" candidates or DESIGNED the ultimate "coup" that occurred. That was from the same type of INTERNAL ROT and corruption and divisions that THEY THEMSELVES created.

That's the parallel. It's perfectly symmetrical and it HINTS at "gentlemen agreements" as to the RULES of mucking with your competitor's political system.. Honor amongst theives or something like that..

 

[depotoo]

I copied it directly from the doj. That is exactly as it is there. Blame them

DOJ LIVE | OPA | Department of Justice

PLEASE STAND BY. PLEASE STAND BY. PLEASE STAND BY.

>> THIS IS YOUR TWO- MINUTE WARNING. YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL ROD ROSENSTEIN/ T WO-MINUTE WARNING.

MR. ROSENSTEIN: GOOD AFTERNOON. AN INDICTMENT TODAY WAS RETURNED TO BUY THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE, CHARGING 13 RUSSIAN NATIONALS AND THREE RUSSIAN COMPANIES FOR COMMITTING FEDERAL CRIMES WHILE SEEKING TO INTERFERE IN THE UNITED STATES POLITICAL SYSTEM, INCLUDING THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. THE DEFENDANTS ALLEGEDLY CONDUCTED WHAT THEY CALLED INFORMATION WARFARE AGAINST THE UNITED STATES WITH THE STATED GOAL OF SPREADING DISTRUST TOWARD THE CANDIDATES AND THE POLITICAL SYSTEM IN GENERAL. ACCORDING TO THE ALLEGATIONS IN THE INDICTMENT, 12 OF THE INDIVIDUAL DEFENDANTS WORKED AT VARIOUS TIMES FOR A COMPANY CALLED INTERNET RESEARCH AGENCY LLC, A RUSSIAN-BASED COMPANY IN ST. PETERSBURG. OTHERS TARGETING FOREIGN AUDIENCES IN MULTIPLE COUNTRIES. INTERNET RESEARCH AGENCY ALLEGEDLY -- ALLEGEDLY OPERATED THROUGH RUSSIAN SHELL COMPANIES, EMPLOYED HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AND ONLINE OPERATIONS, RANGING FROM CREATORS OF FICTITIOUS PERSONAS TO TECHNICAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT PERSONNEL WITH AN ANNUAL BUDGET OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. INTERNET RESEARCH AGENCY WITH A STRUCTURE ORGANIZATION ARRANGED INTO DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING GRAPHICS, SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, AND FINANCE DEPARTMENTS. IN 2014, THE COMPANY ESTABLISHED A TRANSMITTER PROJECT FOCUSED ON THE UNITED STATES. IN JULY OF 2016, MORE THAN 80 EMPLOYEES WERE ASSIGNED TO THE TRANSLATOR PROJECT. TWO OF THE DEFENDANTS ALLEGEDLY TRAVELED TO THE UNITED STATES IN 2014 TO COLLECT INTELLIGENCE FOR THEIR AMERICAN INFLUENCE OPERATIONS. IN ORDER TO HIDE THE RUSSIAN ORIGINS OF THEIR ACTIVITIES, THE DEFENDANTS ALLEGEDLY ARE JUST AND COMPUTER SERVERS LOCATED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES TO SET UP A VIRTUAL PRIVATE NETWORK. THE DEFENDANTS ALLEGEDLY USED OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO ESTABLISH HUNDREDS OF ACCOUNTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA NETWORKS SUCH AS FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, AND TWITTER, MAKING IT APPEAR THAT THOSE ACCOUNTS WERE CONTROLLED BY PERSONS LOCATED IN THE UNITED STATES. THEY USED STOLEN OR FICTITIOUS AMERICAN IDENTITIES, FRAUDULENT BANK ACCOUNTS, AND FALSE IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTS. THEY POSED AS POLITICALLY AND SOCIALLY ACTIVE AMERICANS, ADVOCATING FOR AND AGAINST PARTICULAR CANDIDATES. THEY ESTABLISHED SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AND GROUPS TO COMMUNICATE WITH UNWITTING AMERICANS. THEY ALSO PURCHASED POLITICAL ADVERTISEMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA NETWORKS. THE RUSSIANS ALSO RECRUITED AND PAID REAL AMERICANS TO ENGAGE IN POLITICAL ACTIVITIES, PROMOTE POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS, AND STAGE POLITICAL RALLIES. THE DEFENDANTS AND CO-CONSPIRATORS PRETENDED TO BE GRASSROOTS ACTIVISTS. THE AMERICANS DID NOT KNOW THEY WERE COMMUNICATING WITH RUSSIANS, ACCORDING TO THE INDICTMENT. AFTER THE ELECTION, THE DEFENDANTS ALLEGEDLY STAGED RALLIES TO SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY STAGING RALLIES TO PROTEST HIS ELECTION. FOR EXAMPLE, THE DEFENDANTS ORGANIZED ONE RALLY TO SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT-ELECT AND ANOTHER RALLY TO OPPOSE HIM, BOTH IN NEW YORK ON THE SAME DAY. ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2017, SOON AFTER THE NEWS MEDIA REPORTED THAT THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE WAS INVESTIGATING EVIDENCE THAT RUSSIAN OPERATIVES USE SOCIAL MEDIA TO INTERFERE WITH THE 2016 ELECTION, ONE DEFENDANT ALLEGEDLY WROTE, "WE HAD A SLIGHT CRISIS HERE AT WORK. THE FBI BUSTED OUR ACTIVITY, SO I GOT PREOCCUPIED WITH COVERING TRACKS TOGETHER WITH MY COLLEAGUES." THE INDICTMENT INCLUDES EIGHT CRIMINAL COUNTS. COUNT ONE ALLEGES A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY TO FRAUD THE UNITED STATES, ALL OF THE DEFENDANTS. THEY ALLEGEDLY CONSPIRED TO DEFRAUD AMERICA BY IMPAIRING THE LAWFUL FUNCTIONS OF THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION, THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, AND THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE. THOSE ORGANIZATIONS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR DISCLOSURE OF FOREIGN INVOLVEMENT IN CERTAIN DOMESTIC ACTIVITIES. COUNT TWO CHARGES CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT WIRE FRAUD AND BANK FRAUD BY INTERNET RESEARCH AGENCY AND TWO OF THE INDIVIDUAL DEFENDANTS. THREE THROUGH EIGHT CHARGE AGGRAVATED IDENTITY THEFT BY INTERNET RESEARCH AGENCY AND FOUR OF THE DEFENDANTS. THERE IS NO ALLEGATION IN THIS INDICTMENT THAT ANY AMERICAN WAS A KNOWING PARTICIPANT IN THIS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. THERE IS NO ALLEGATION IN THE INDICTMENT THAT THE CHARGE ALTERED THE OUTCOME OF THE 2016 ELECTION. I WANT TO CAUTION YOU THAT EVERYONE CHARGED WITH A CRIME IS PRESUMED INNOCENT UNLESS AND UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN COURT. A TRIAL, PROSECUTORS WAS INTRODUCED GRETEL EVIDENCE SUFFICIENT TO PROVE EACH DEFENDANT GUILTY BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT TO A UNANIMOUS JURY. THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S INVESTIGATION WAS ONGOING. THERE WILL BE NO COMMENTS FROM THE SPECIAL COUNSEL AT THIS TIME. THIS INDICTMENT SERVES AS A REMINDER THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT ALWAYS WHO THEY APPEAR TO BE. THE INDICTMENT ALLEGES THAT THE RUSSIAN CONSPIRATORS WANT TO PROMOTE DISCORD IN THE UNITED STATES AND UNDERMINE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN DEMOCRACY. WE MUST NOT ALLOW THEM TO HIS EXCEED. THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AND INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AND WITH THE CONGRESS TO DEFEND OUR NATION AGAINST SIMILAR CURRENT AND FUTURE EFFORTS. I WANT TO THINK THE FEDERAL AGENTS AND PROSECUTORS WHO ARE WORKING ON THIS CASE FOR THEIR EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE. I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE A FEW QUESTIONS.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

MR. ROSENSTEIN: I HAVE IDENTIFIED THE ALLEGATIONS IN THE INDICTMENT. THERE IS NO ALLEGATION OF ANY EFFECT ON THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.

>> ON PAGE FOUR, PARAGRAPH SIX, A TALKS ABOUT THE TRUNK AND PAIN, SAYING DEFENDANTS COMMUNICATED WITH UNWITTING INDIVIDUALS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN. LATER IN THE INDICTMENT, CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS A REFERENCED, NOT BY THEIR NAME. WERE CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS COOPERATING OR WERE THEY DUPED? WHAT WAS THE RELATIONSHIP?

MR. ROSENSTEIN: THERE IS NO ALLEGATION IN THIS INDICTMENT THAT ANY AMERICAN HAD ANY KNOWLEDGE. THE NATURE OF THE SCHEME WAS THE DEFENDANTS TOOK EXTRAORDINARY STEPS TO MAKE IT APPEAR THAT THEY WERE ORDINARY AMERICAN POLITICAL ACTIVISTS, EVEN SO FAR AS TO BASE THEIR ACTIVITIES ON A VIRTUAL PRIVATE NETWORK HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. THEY APPEAR TO BE AMERICANS.

>> DID YOU HAVE ANY ASSURANCES FROM THE RUSSIANS THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE HIS INDIVIDUALS FOR THE PROSECUTION?

MR. ROSENSTEIN: NO COMMUNICATIONS WITH RUSSIANS ABOUT THIS AT WE WILL FOLLOW THE ORDINARY PROCESS OF SEEKING COOPERATION AND EXTRADITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

The transcript of his briefing

So many uppercase letters....

 

[usmbguest5318]

Special counsel Robert Mueller has brought charges against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian groups for interfering with the 2016 U.S. elections, the Department of Justice announced Friday.

"Defendants' operations included supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump ("Trump campaign") and disparaging Hillary Clinton," the indictment reads.

"Defendants made various expenditures to carry out those activities, including buying political advertisements on social media in the names of U.S. persons and entities."

Mueller indicts 13 Russians for interfering in US election

"Defendants made various expenditures to carry out those activities, including buying political advertisements on social media in the names of U.S. persons and entities."

Full indictment is here: Mueller indicts Russian hackers—read the full court documents here.

• St. Petersburg firm Internet Research Agency (IRA)
• IRA closely connected to Putin
• Millions of dollars spent to "mess with" the U.S. 2016 election on Trump's behalf.

And this is an indictment, which means the case has to have a far higher standard of proof and probative evidence of the meddling, subterfuge, etc.

But the most important thing is this: what the USIC had been telling us was most definitely not a hoax; the POTUS' own justice department is not going to file hoax indictments in criminal courts of law. The defendants may or may not be found guilty, they may or may not "cop pleas," but whatever the outcome, there's no way around the reality that the evidence of meddling is far more meritorious than mere "he said, she said" of political rhetoric.

What remains to be seen is what Trump knew about this meddling and what was the nature of his and his team's involvement in and/or complicity with the meddling.

 

[Votto]

This will make for some good poo to sling around come election time..

Too bad no one is ever held accountable in Washington for all the myriad of conspiracies though.

 

[Jackson]

Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office said Friday that a grand jury indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities for alleged interference in the 2016 presidential elections, during which they boosted the candidacy of Donald Trump.
Special counsel Mueller: Russians conducted 'information warfare' against US to help Trump win

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The irony of bs , oh can't wait to see what this spins into , just wow........lol . Idiots won't see the petty bs charges they made up on this omg...

Wait a minute...the indictments are about pro and against Trump. They were attempting to cause discord in American politics. This is a more pro Trump action than against Trump.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Mueller has asked the Kremlin to extradite these 13 so, it's pretty much over. The Kremlin will refuse and it dies right here.

The puzzling part is how demonrats believe that Trump is finally implicated.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Breaking just now, more will surly follow.

Eat that Orange Turd!

So.... no collusion.....

Speaking at a news conference, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said there was no allegation that any American was "a knowing participant in this illegal activity" nor was it alleged that the meddling altered the election outcome.

US election tampering charge for Russians

The indictment(s) can be amended and other related indictments can follow. Do you really think the process at hand is as perfunctory as a game of Checkers? You're not very good at poker, EH?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Millions of dollars spent to "mess with" the U.S. 2016 election on Trump's behalf.

Hey, did you miss the part where he said that they planned rallies for and AGAINST Trump in New York on the same day? Or do you see only what you want to see?

 

[flacaltenn]

This will make for some good poo to sling around come election time..

Too bad no one is ever held accountable in Washington for all the myriad of conspiracies though.

It's not over until the credits roll.. The OIG is the best of checks on govt internal abuses. And their work is gonna dribble out all the way to November.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Breaking just now, more will surly follow.

Eat that Orange Turd!

So.... no collusion.....

Speaking at a news conference, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said there was no allegation that any American was "a knowing participant in this illegal activity" nor was it alleged that the meddling altered the election outcome.

US election tampering charge for Russians

The indictment(s) can be amended and other related indictments can follow. Do you really think the process at hand is as perfunctory as a game of Checkers? You're not very good at poker, EH?

Any day now Hillary will be arrested for Benghazi.....

Any day now.........

I'm so serial..........

 

[JBond]

Since no American has been charged, will this be the end of the nonsense? Part of the indictment is that the Russians organized anti Trump efforts to undermine his Presidency. Will that lead to eventual indictments of Democrats?

This might be Mueller's swan song. He did what he was supposed to do.

yes, that's right. the (D)s conspired with the roooskies to have hillary lose.

you are a whackadoodle.

We know she purchased a dossier created by Russian intelligence.

 

[MindWars]

This story will get twisted just as bad as the Florida shootings by the end of the week it will be everything it's not. The sheep will have it Trump did it, Trump knew it, Bush was fired over it, and Obama paid them ( Oh wait Obama has paid them )

On the serious side of things, this internet bs will be used no doubt against we the people, they are creating a scamed bs story so when they next elections come they can pick and choose who they want to win , they'll use a false flag bs story or line as to why they have to do it this way or that way reassuring the sheep nothing can be hacked, rigged, fixed or whatever. Meanwhile if we get a mental democrat in there like Clinton, Romney etc oh you can bet that bs will be rigged in every way.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Breaking just now, more will surly follow.

Eat that Orange Turd!

Seriously? LMGTFY

Is Fox not covering the indictment? It's "all over" the news channels I've looked at and it's "all over" the Internet.

OP posted a claim, I asked for a link to back up that claim. Too hard for you to understand? Not my job to do the OP's work.

As I wrote: Seriously?

Do you think the news that Mueller filed indictments against 13 Russians accusing them of having meddled in the 2016 election would be something that is (1) made up and (2) that looking at any news site, listening to any news radio show, or watching any news program would not be talking about?

How lazy are you? I could see the merit of your request were the OP-er to have remarked about some esoteric sh*t, but those indictments absolutely are not even close to such.

 

[Siete]

According to the indictment, the Internet Research Agency, a Russian troll farm, started interfering as early as 2014 in U.S. politics, extending to the 2016 presidential election. The defendants, "posing as U.S. persons and creating false U.S. personas," operated social media groups designed to attract U.S. audiences by stealing U.S. identities and falsely claiming to be U.S. activists.

Troll farm ?

RW trolls, raise your hand.

 

[MindWars]

Any day we know that people with brains know just how easy it is to COVER UP GOVERNMENTAL CROOKED BS too.

If you don't think this goes on with in then some of you really live on planet fkn fantasy...