Muslim Bakeries Refuse To Make Gay Wedding Cake...& No Rabid Protests From Liberals?

[Alex.]

If you do not like the word "sting" you can substitute whatever term suits you the result is the same. It is either wrong for everyone to refuse to make gay cakes or it is o for everyone to refuse to make gay cakes, not just some.

Agree, in terms of the law.

But is it right to seek out and entrap someone for that purpose (regardless of their religion)?

Entrapment Defined

Full Definition of entrapment

1. 1 a : the action or process of entrapping b : the condition of being entrapped
   
   
2. 2 : the action of luring an individual into committing a crime in order to prosecute the person for it

Yes it is in this situation, equal application of a standard must be accomplished no matter the means.

But did that happen in this situation?

I think that is ethically wrong - unless there is reason to believe that person had already committed crimes.

It may be but do you believe this practice should be wiped out?

Yes, but I'm on the fence a bit. I prefer it to be wiped out through cultural change and education. At some point - laws have to be introduced: legalizing gay marriage, prohibiting discrimmination in housing, jobs, etc based on gender, race, religion, ethnicity, etc. to start the process. It's what had to happen with segregation, etc.

But these are small communities, small time family run operations - is it right to entrap them in this manner?

Of course if that accomplishes the goal of eradicating this type of behavior.

 

[Coyote]

I thought I did. I'll dumb it down.

If a same sex couple seeks out a wedding cake from a Muslim baker, and is refused - I condemn that Muslim baker.
If a same sex couple seeks out a wedding cake from a Christian baker, and is refused - I condemn that Christian baker.

If a person claiming to be a participant in a same sex wedding seeks out a Muslim baker, and in order to be refused and is refused - I condemn that person, not the baker.
If a person claiming to be a participant in a same sex wedding seeks out a Christian baker, and in order to be refused and is refused - I condemn that person, not the baker.

Does that clarify my stance on this sufficiently?

You couldn't just say the Muslim was wrong? Personally I support the Muslim in this case. That may very well be the first and only time I do

You'll only support a Muslim's right to be a bigot.

That is priceless.

No, you and your ilk are the ones who support the Muslim's right to be a bigot.

Prove it.

Just read posts by Coyote.

I don't care if it's Muslim or Christian - I question the right of people to entrap these small business into discrimmination.

 

[Coyote]

Agree, in terms of the law.

But is it right to seek out and entrap someone for that purpose (regardless of their religion)?

Entrapment Defined

Full Definition of entrapment

1. 1 a : the action or process of entrapping b : the condition of being entrapped
   
   
2. 2 : the action of luring an individual into committing a crime in order to prosecute the person for it

Yes it is in this situation, equal application of a standard must be accomplished no matter the means.

But did that happen in this situation?

I think that is ethically wrong - unless there is reason to believe that person had already committed crimes.

It may be but do you believe this practice should be wiped out?

Yes, but I'm on the fence a bit. I prefer it to be wiped out through cultural change and education. At some point - laws have to be introduced: legalizing gay marriage, prohibiting discrimmination in housing, jobs, etc based on gender, race, religion, ethnicity, etc. to start the process. It's what had to happen with segregation, etc.

But these are small communities, small time family run operations - is it right to entrap them in this manner?

Of course if that accomplishes the goal of eradicating this type of behavior.

Maybe...

 

[Coyote]

Agree, in terms of the law.

But is it right to seek out and entrap someone for that purpose (regardless of their religion)?

There are real live homosexuals in Dearborn, MI and they could go to a Muslim bakery and file a federal discrimination lawsuit when and if they were refused. The intent to entrap would have to be proven, and that would be extremely difficult..

From what I understand in reading about these cases - the laws in question are not federal, but state laws. From what Bodecea said - Michigan does not have that law.

I think entrapment is very dicey.

Do you support or oppose such laws?

I support them.

Then you should be condemning these Muslim bakers rather than making excuses for their bigotry.

I don't like entrapment.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Ok, everyone knows the story of the Christian-owned bakery whose owners refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex wedding. They argued businesses should / do have the right to refuse to support certain events when those events are against their religious or moral beliefs.

Liberals saw things differently, people lost their minds, Christians were demonized, the govt got involved, and they wanted to force the owners to make the cake or be punished.

So, did / are they getting fair and equal treatment?

Didja hear about the Muslim bakarieS (yes, plural) that refuse to make same-Sex wedding cakes? Of course you didn't! My phone won't allow me to post the specific link, but - if you aren't lazy - go to LouderwithCrowder.com and watch the video of this guy going into numerous Muslim bakeries and getting rejected everytime he asked them to make a same-sex wedding cake.

Funny, you would think this would be all over the news and that Obama & his DOJ would be all over this, right?

The libs & govt aren't all over this because they believe in appeasing Muslims while targeting Christians unfairly. Why? Maybe 1 reason is they know, unlike with Christians, Muslims (Islamic Extremists) will cut your head off or blow your ass up if you mess with them

This isn't a major problem anyway because hardly any homosexuals go into Muslim bakeries. Why? Because they know these same people burn, behead, and hang gays in their country where they came from. So if they don't want to serve gays, no problem - just stay the hell away from them, leave them alone, and 'pick' on the Christians. They are easier targets...

This rightwing lie was debunked over a year ago:

Righties Go Crazy Over Video Of Muslim Bakeries Refusing To Make A Cake For A Gay Wedding (VIDEO)

 

[Redfish]

You couldn't just say the Muslim was wrong? Personally I support the Muslim in this case. That may very well be the first and only time I do

You'll only support a Muslim's right to be a bigot.

That is priceless.

No, you and your ilk are the ones who support the Muslim's right to be a bigot.

Prove it.

Just read posts by Coyote.

I don't care if it's Muslim or Christian - I question the right of people to entrap these small business into discrimmination.

of course, these cases are always set-ups. there are plenty gay bakers who would be just overjoyed to make a gay wedding cake, but they chose the ones that they know are Christian or Muslim to make an issue of their gayness.

with the gays its all about in-your-face.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Ok, everyone knows the story of the Christian-owned bakery whose owners refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex wedding. They argued businesses should / do have the right to refuse to support certain events when those events are against their religious or moral beliefs.

Liberals saw things differently, people lost their minds, Christians were demonized, the govt got involved, and they wanted to force the owners to make the cake or be punished.

So, did / are they getting fair and equal treatment?

Didja hear about the Muslim bakarieS (yes, plural) that refuse to make same-Sex wedding cakes? Of course you didn't! My phone won't allow me to post the specific link, but - if you aren't lazy - go to LouderwithCrowder.com and watch the video of this guy going into numerous Muslim bakeries and getting rejected everytime he asked them to make a same-sex wedding cake.

Funny, you would think this would be all over the news and that Obama & his DOJ would be all over this, right?

The libs & govt aren't all over this because they believe in appeasing Muslims while targeting Christians unfairly. Why? Maybe 1 reason is they know, unlike with Christians, Muslims (Islamic Extremists) will cut your head off or blow your ass up if you mess with them

This isn't a major problem anyway because hardly any homosexuals go into Muslim bakeries. Why? Because they know these same people burn, behead, and hang gays in their country where they came from. So if they don't want to serve gays, no problem - just stay the hell away from them, leave them alone, and 'pick' on the Christians. They are easier targets...

People started pointing out the disparity as soon as Christian bakeries became targets. It went unnoticed because baking has nothing to do with this. It is a Christian bashing agenda that is at work here.

Did you know that that muslim bakery is in Michigan? Do you know why that is important? Or are you as stupid as the OP?

Thing is, there is a very simple way for one group to stand beside their convictions without being penalized, and the other to get a cake. Go to one of the many other bakeries. Geography has nothing to do with it. It is like insisting on your right to be served a BLT in a Muslim restaurant. They are in business to serve the public. It isn't necessary to compromise your own rights to do so. This is an agenda.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Ok, everyone knows the story of the Christian-owned bakery whose owners refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex wedding. They argued businesses should / do have the right to refuse to support certain events when those events are against their religious or moral beliefs.

Liberals saw things differently, people lost their minds, Christians were demonized, the govt got involved, and they wanted to force the owners to make the cake or be punished.

So, did / are they getting fair and equal treatment?

Didja hear about the Muslim bakarieS (yes, plural) that refuse to make same-Sex wedding cakes? Of course you didn't! My phone won't allow me to post the specific link, but - if you aren't lazy - go to LouderwithCrowder.com and watch the video of this guy going into numerous Muslim bakeries and getting rejected everytime he asked them to make a same-sex wedding cake.

Funny, you would think this would be all over the news and that Obama & his DOJ would be all over this, right?

The libs & govt aren't all over this because they believe in appeasing Muslims while targeting Christians unfairly. Why? Maybe 1 reason is they know, unlike with Christians, Muslims (Islamic Extremists) will cut your head off or blow your ass up if you mess with them

This isn't a major problem anyway because hardly any homosexuals go into Muslim bakeries. Why? Because they know these same people burn, behead, and hang gays in their country where they came from. So if they don't want to serve gays, no problem - just stay the hell away from them, leave them alone, and 'pick' on the Christians. They are easier targets...

This rightwing lie was debunked over a year ago:

Righties Go Crazy Over Video Of Muslim Bakeries Refusing To Make A Cake For A Gay Wedding (VIDEO)

Did the Muslims refuse? Why yes they did....no lie but of course you're quoting some obscure website. Pffft and you've completely missed the point, as usual

 

[Coyote]

There have been a handful of legitimate court cases, but also a lot of "set ups" by "citizen journalists" who then spread the videos and that has brought down a

You'll only support a Muslim's right to be a bigot.

That is priceless.

No, you and your ilk are the ones who support the Muslim's right to be a bigot.

Prove it.

Just read posts by Coyote.

I don't care if it's Muslim or Christian - I question the right of people to entrap these small business into discrimmination.

of course, these cases are always set-ups. there are plenty gay bakers who would be just overjoyed to make a gay wedding cake, but they chose the ones that they know are Christian or Muslim to make an issue of their gayness.

with the gays its all about in-your-face.

There are plenty of Christian bakers that would make a gay wedding cake (as well as Muslim bakers according to articles about Crowder's video). MOST gays it is not about "in your face" at all. Who in the hell wants their wedding to be contentious and unpleasant? Who would want someone participating who hates them? Not many people and not any of the gay couples I know. In fact, the one wedding I went to recently, they had a difficulties, and it was very sensitive - finding a venue, finding people who would support their union to provide services. They did, and non-discrimmination laws would help (this was in PA and I'm not sure what the law is there) - but even with such laws, they are not going to seek out people they know will object. It's a wedding - not a court case - that they want.

 

[bripat9643]

So condemn the Muslims.....waiting

I thought I did. I'll dumb it down.

If a same sex couple seeks out a wedding cake from a Muslim baker, and is refused - I condemn that Muslim baker.
If a same sex couple seeks out a wedding cake from a Christian baker, and is refused - I condemn that Christian baker.

If a person claiming to be a participant in a same sex wedding seeks out a Muslim baker, and in order to be refused and is refused - I condemn that person, not the baker.
If a person claiming to be a participant in a same sex wedding seeks out a Christian baker, and in order to be refused and is refused - I condemn that person, not the baker.

Does that clarify my stance on this sufficiently?

You couldn't just say the Muslim was wrong? Personally I support the Muslim in this case. That may very well be the first and only time I do

No. Because it is NOT black and white to me. I don't support unlimited religious freedom - no right is unlimited. While I realize that this would have no application, in law - from an ethical standpoint, I think entrapping people just to publically villify their religious beliefs is wrong.

That's a weasel.

Do you think entrapment is ok?

Isn't that what the queers who sued the baker did?

 

[Redfish]

There have been a handful of legitimate court cases, but also a lot of "set ups" by "citizen journalists" who then spread the videos and that has brought down a

No, you and your ilk are the ones who support the Muslim's right to be a bigot.

Prove it.

Just read posts by Coyote.

I don't care if it's Muslim or Christian - I question the right of people to entrap these small business into discrimmination.

of course, these cases are always set-ups. there are plenty gay bakers who would be just overjoyed to make a gay wedding cake, but they chose the ones that they know are Christian or Muslim to make an issue of their gayness.

with the gays its all about in-your-face.

There are plenty of Christian bakers that would make a gay wedding cake (as well as Muslim bakers according to articles about Crowder's video). MOST gays it is not about "in your face" at all. Who in the hell wants their wedding to be contentious and unpleasant? Who would want someone participating who hates them? Not many people and not any of the gay couples I know. In fact, the one wedding I went to recently, they had a difficulties, and it was very sensitive - finding a venue, finding people who would support their union to provide services. They did, and non-discrimmination laws would help (this was in PA and I'm not sure what the law is there) - but even with such laws, they are not going to seek out people they know will object. It's a wedding - not a court case - that they want.

if all of them were like that, there would be no problems, but they aren't all like that.

 

[bripat9643]

There have been a handful of legitimate court cases, but also a lot of "set ups" by "citizen journalists" who then spread the videos and that has brought down a

No, you and your ilk are the ones who support the Muslim's right to be a bigot.

Prove it.

Just read posts by Coyote.

I don't care if it's Muslim or Christian - I question the right of people to entrap these small business into discrimmination.

of course, these cases are always set-ups. there are plenty gay bakers who would be just overjoyed to make a gay wedding cake, but they chose the ones that they know are Christian or Muslim to make an issue of their gayness.

with the gays its all about in-your-face.

There are plenty of Christian bakers that would make a gay wedding cake (as well as Muslim bakers according to articles about Crowder's video). MOST gays it is not about "in your face" at all. Who in the hell wants their wedding to be contentious and unpleasant? Who would want someone participating who hates them? Not many people and not any of the gay couples I know. In fact, the one wedding I went to recently, they had a difficulties, and it was very sensitive - finding a venue, finding people who would support their union to provide services. They did, and non-discrimmination laws would help (this was in PA and I'm not sure what the law is there) - but even with such laws, they are not going to seek out people they know will object. It's a wedding - not a court case - that they want.

The queers have turned weddings into court cases.

 

[Coyote]

Ok, everyone knows the story of the Christian-owned bakery whose owners refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex wedding. They argued businesses should / do have the right to refuse to support certain events when those events are against their religious or moral beliefs.

Liberals saw things differently, people lost their minds, Christians were demonized, the govt got involved, and they wanted to force the owners to make the cake or be punished.

So, did / are they getting fair and equal treatment?

Didja hear about the Muslim bakarieS (yes, plural) that refuse to make same-Sex wedding cakes? Of course you didn't! My phone won't allow me to post the specific link, but - if you aren't lazy - go to LouderwithCrowder.com and watch the video of this guy going into numerous Muslim bakeries and getting rejected everytime he asked them to make a same-sex wedding cake.

Funny, you would think this would be all over the news and that Obama & his DOJ would be all over this, right?

The libs & govt aren't all over this because they believe in appeasing Muslims while targeting Christians unfairly. Why? Maybe 1 reason is they know, unlike with Christians, Muslims (Islamic Extremists) will cut your head off or blow your ass up if you mess with them

This isn't a major problem anyway because hardly any homosexuals go into Muslim bakeries. Why? Because they know these same people burn, behead, and hang gays in their country where they came from. So if they don't want to serve gays, no problem - just stay the hell away from them, leave them alone, and 'pick' on the Christians. They are easier targets...

People started pointing out the disparity as soon as Christian bakeries became targets. It went unnoticed because baking has nothing to do with this. It is a Christian bashing agenda that is at work here.

Did you know that that muslim bakery is in Michigan? Do you know why that is important? Or are you as stupid as the OP?

Thing is, there is a very simple way for one group to stand beside their convictions without being penalized, and the other to get a cake. Go to one of the many other bakeries. Geography has nothing to do with it. This is an agenda.

That would work only if bakeries would at least post signs indicating that they do not serve same sex weddings. Otherwise, they have to go in, be rebuffed and humiliated, and find another. Why should they have to be put through that? Or, what happened to the couple here: Sweet Cakes by Melissa Didn’t Just Deny a Lesbian Couple Service, They Also Doxxed Them and Their Kids

 

[Coyote]

There have been a handful of legitimate court cases, but also a lot of "set ups" by "citizen journalists" who then spread the videos and that has brought down a

Prove it.

Just read posts by Coyote.

I don't care if it's Muslim or Christian - I question the right of people to entrap these small business into discrimmination.

of course, these cases are always set-ups. there are plenty gay bakers who would be just overjoyed to make a gay wedding cake, but they chose the ones that they know are Christian or Muslim to make an issue of their gayness.

with the gays its all about in-your-face.

There are plenty of Christian bakers that would make a gay wedding cake (as well as Muslim bakers according to articles about Crowder's video). MOST gays it is not about "in your face" at all. Who in the hell wants their wedding to be contentious and unpleasant? Who would want someone participating who hates them? Not many people and not any of the gay couples I know. In fact, the one wedding I went to recently, they had a difficulties, and it was very sensitive - finding a venue, finding people who would support their union to provide services. They did, and non-discrimmination laws would help (this was in PA and I'm not sure what the law is there) - but even with such laws, they are not going to seek out people they know will object. It's a wedding - not a court case - that they want.

if all of them were like that, there would be no problems, but they aren't all like that.

Most are.

 

[Coyote]

There have been a handful of legitimate court cases, but also a lot of "set ups" by "citizen journalists" who then spread the videos and that has brought down a

Prove it.

Just read posts by Coyote.

I don't care if it's Muslim or Christian - I question the right of people to entrap these small business into discrimmination.

of course, these cases are always set-ups. there are plenty gay bakers who would be just overjoyed to make a gay wedding cake, but they chose the ones that they know are Christian or Muslim to make an issue of their gayness.

with the gays its all about in-your-face.

There are plenty of Christian bakers that would make a gay wedding cake (as well as Muslim bakers according to articles about Crowder's video). MOST gays it is not about "in your face" at all. Who in the hell wants their wedding to be contentious and unpleasant? Who would want someone participating who hates them? Not many people and not any of the gay couples I know. In fact, the one wedding I went to recently, they had a difficulties, and it was very sensitive - finding a venue, finding people who would support their union to provide services. They did, and non-discrimmination laws would help (this was in PA and I'm not sure what the law is there) - but even with such laws, they are not going to seek out people they know will object. It's a wedding - not a court case - that they want.

The queers have turned weddings into court cases.

Not really - there have only been a handful of court cases.

 

[bripat9643]

Ok, everyone knows the story of the Christian-owned bakery whose owners refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex wedding. They argued businesses should / do have the right to refuse to support certain events when those events are against their religious or moral beliefs.

Liberals saw things differently, people lost their minds, Christians were demonized, the govt got involved, and they wanted to force the owners to make the cake or be punished.

So, did / are they getting fair and equal treatment?

Didja hear about the Muslim bakarieS (yes, plural) that refuse to make same-Sex wedding cakes? Of course you didn't! My phone won't allow me to post the specific link, but - if you aren't lazy - go to LouderwithCrowder.com and watch the video of this guy going into numerous Muslim bakeries and getting rejected everytime he asked them to make a same-sex wedding cake.

Funny, you would think this would be all over the news and that Obama & his DOJ would be all over this, right?

The libs & govt aren't all over this because they believe in appeasing Muslims while targeting Christians unfairly. Why? Maybe 1 reason is they know, unlike with Christians, Muslims (Islamic Extremists) will cut your head off or blow your ass up if you mess with them

This isn't a major problem anyway because hardly any homosexuals go into Muslim bakeries. Why? Because they know these same people burn, behead, and hang gays in their country where they came from. So if they don't want to serve gays, no problem - just stay the hell away from them, leave them alone, and 'pick' on the Christians. They are easier targets...

People started pointing out the disparity as soon as Christian bakeries became targets. It went unnoticed because baking has nothing to do with this. It is a Christian bashing agenda that is at work here.

Did you know that that muslim bakery is in Michigan? Do you know why that is important? Or are you as stupid as the OP?

Thing is, there is a very simple way for one group to stand beside their convictions without being penalized, and the other to get a cake. Go to one of the many other bakeries. Geography has nothing to do with it. This is an agenda.

That would work only if bakeries would at least post signs indicating that they do not serve same sex weddings. Otherwise, they have to go in, be rebuffed and humiliated, and find another. Why should they have to be put through that? Or, what happened to the couple here: Sweet Cakes by Melissa Didn’t Just Deny a Lesbian Couple Service, They Also Doxxed Them and Their Kids

If they posted such a sign they would became targets for harassment from the GAYstapo.

 

[bripat9643]

There have been a handful of legitimate court cases, but also a lot of "set ups" by "citizen journalists" who then spread the videos and that has brought down a

Just read posts by Coyote.

I don't care if it's Muslim or Christian - I question the right of people to entrap these small business into discrimmination.

of course, these cases are always set-ups. there are plenty gay bakers who would be just overjoyed to make a gay wedding cake, but they chose the ones that they know are Christian or Muslim to make an issue of their gayness.

with the gays its all about in-your-face.

There are plenty of Christian bakers that would make a gay wedding cake (as well as Muslim bakers according to articles about Crowder's video). MOST gays it is not about "in your face" at all. Who in the hell wants their wedding to be contentious and unpleasant? Who would want someone participating who hates them? Not many people and not any of the gay couples I know. In fact, the one wedding I went to recently, they had a difficulties, and it was very sensitive - finding a venue, finding people who would support their union to provide services. They did, and non-discrimmination laws would help (this was in PA and I'm not sure what the law is there) - but even with such laws, they are not going to seek out people they know will object. It's a wedding - not a court case - that they want.

The queers have turned weddings into court cases.

Not really - there have only been a handful of court cases.

That's all it takes.

 

[Redfish]

There have been a handful of legitimate court cases, but also a lot of "set ups" by "citizen journalists" who then spread the videos and that has brought down a

Just read posts by Coyote.

I don't care if it's Muslim or Christian - I question the right of people to entrap these small business into discrimmination.

of course, these cases are always set-ups. there are plenty gay bakers who would be just overjoyed to make a gay wedding cake, but they chose the ones that they know are Christian or Muslim to make an issue of their gayness.

with the gays its all about in-your-face.

There are plenty of Christian bakers that would make a gay wedding cake (as well as Muslim bakers according to articles about Crowder's video). MOST gays it is not about "in your face" at all. Who in the hell wants their wedding to be contentious and unpleasant? Who would want someone participating who hates them? Not many people and not any of the gay couples I know. In fact, the one wedding I went to recently, they had a difficulties, and it was very sensitive - finding a venue, finding people who would support their union to provide services. They did, and non-discrimmination laws would help (this was in PA and I'm not sure what the law is there) - but even with such laws, they are not going to seek out people they know will object. It's a wedding - not a court case - that they want.

if all of them were like that, there would be no problems, but they aren't all like that.

Most are.

maybe, I know some of each. the problem is that the radicals get all the media attention.

 

[Coyote]

Ok, everyone knows the story of the Christian-owned bakery whose owners refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex wedding. They argued businesses should / do have the right to refuse to support certain events when those events are against their religious or moral beliefs.

Liberals saw things differently, people lost their minds, Christians were demonized, the govt got involved, and they wanted to force the owners to make the cake or be punished.

So, did / are they getting fair and equal treatment?

Didja hear about the Muslim bakarieS (yes, plural) that refuse to make same-Sex wedding cakes? Of course you didn't! My phone won't allow me to post the specific link, but - if you aren't lazy - go to LouderwithCrowder.com and watch the video of this guy going into numerous Muslim bakeries and getting rejected everytime he asked them to make a same-sex wedding cake.

Funny, you would think this would be all over the news and that Obama & his DOJ would be all over this, right?

The libs & govt aren't all over this because they believe in appeasing Muslims while targeting Christians unfairly. Why? Maybe 1 reason is they know, unlike with Christians, Muslims (Islamic Extremists) will cut your head off or blow your ass up if you mess with them

This isn't a major problem anyway because hardly any homosexuals go into Muslim bakeries. Why? Because they know these same people burn, behead, and hang gays in their country where they came from. So if they don't want to serve gays, no problem - just stay the hell away from them, leave them alone, and 'pick' on the Christians. They are easier targets...

People started pointing out the disparity as soon as Christian bakeries became targets. It went unnoticed because baking has nothing to do with this. It is a Christian bashing agenda that is at work here.

Did you know that that muslim bakery is in Michigan? Do you know why that is important? Or are you as stupid as the OP?

Thing is, there is a very simple way for one group to stand beside their convictions without being penalized, and the other to get a cake. Go to one of the many other bakeries. Geography has nothing to do with it. This is an agenda.

That would work only if bakeries would at least post signs indicating that they do not serve same sex weddings. Otherwise, they have to go in, be rebuffed and humiliated, and find another. Why should they have to be put through that? Or, what happened to the couple here: Sweet Cakes by Melissa Didn’t Just Deny a Lesbian Couple Service, They Also Doxxed Them and Their Kids

If they posted such a sign they would became targets for harassment from the GAYstapo.

So? If they don't post such signs, then anyone who complains could become targets for harrassment from the Christianstapo. Like what Sweetcakes did.

 

[Coyote]

There have been a handful of legitimate court cases, but also a lot of "set ups" by "citizen journalists" who then spread the videos and that has brought down a

I don't care if it's Muslim or Christian - I question the right of people to entrap these small business into discrimmination.

of course, these cases are always set-ups. there are plenty gay bakers who would be just overjoyed to make a gay wedding cake, but they chose the ones that they know are Christian or Muslim to make an issue of their gayness.

with the gays its all about in-your-face.

There are plenty of Christian bakers that would make a gay wedding cake (as well as Muslim bakers according to articles about Crowder's video). MOST gays it is not about "in your face" at all. Who in the hell wants their wedding to be contentious and unpleasant? Who would want someone participating who hates them? Not many people and not any of the gay couples I know. In fact, the one wedding I went to recently, they had a difficulties, and it was very sensitive - finding a venue, finding people who would support their union to provide services. They did, and non-discrimmination laws would help (this was in PA and I'm not sure what the law is there) - but even with such laws, they are not going to seek out people they know will object. It's a wedding - not a court case - that they want.

The queers have turned weddings into court cases.

Not really - there have only been a handful of court cases.

That's all it takes.

They deserved those cases.