pwjohn
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So, according to some here the US should show that they're superior to 'Third World shit-holes' by adopting the laws of those 'Third World shit-holes'.
You're a retard to think that. Severely retarded.
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So, according to some here the US should show that they're superior to 'Third World shit-holes' by adopting the laws of those 'Third World shit-holes'.
If the Muslims in Georgia insist upon having a cemetery that only allows Muslims, clearly they are offended at having their deceased Muslims placed in graves near non-Muslims. You can bet these particular Muslims are ones that would also want Sharia Law in the United States and the conversion, subjugation and killing of non-Muslims. These are not loyal Americans, they are the enemy.Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque
"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.
Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."
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so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right
people have been heard. This is what democracy is about
as long as it stays peaceful
Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.
No. Third world shitholes are third world shitholes because of the culture that created them. We don't allow those who adhere to that culture to colonize our country.So, according to some here the US should show that they're superior to 'Third World shit-holes' by adopting the laws of those 'Third World shit-holes'.
If I start a religion that allows me to BUY a 9 year old girl and call er my wife, have sex with goats, preach that my god commands my followers to kill Jews wherever we find them, kill anyone who speaks against myself or my god, would you support my right to preach and practice those beliefs?Sorry, don't believe in Satan. I do believe in allowing those who have a religion to practice it, though.
Islam varies as much as Christianity but all people that are not familar with islam know is what they see and hear in the news, which is usually the bad or extreme radicals that abuse Islam.
There's only one Islam and Muhammad is it's prophet. We know Islam by the behavior of it's practitioners and by reading it's doctrine.
Why is building a Mosque considered not assimilating? Do they need to be Baptists, too?Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque
"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.
Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."
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so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right
people have been heard. This is what democracy is about
as long as it stays peaceful
Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.
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Can Christians and Catholics and Montessori build schools? Why can't this Muslim community?
Still has to go through town approval. If the town trusted their muslim neighbors they might not object, but if they feel muslims want to impose their laws and beliefs on the town, state, country there needs to be a give and take of information and trust.
Muslims did not want to face the community so they canceled the town hall meeting.
Montessori schools have to meet standards and required teach and test students on basic subjects and mandatory testing as the rest of the state.
Religious catholic and jewish schools also.
Standards for AMI Montessori Classrooms | AMI USA
Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque
"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.
Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."
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so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right
people have been heard. This is what democracy is about
as long as it stays peaceful
Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.
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Marching, with firearms, protesting the building of a religious house of worship, or school, or cemetary is wrong in so many ways....legal, of course, as long as it's peaceful but I wonder how I, if I were an American citizen who is Muslim, would feel seeing that. Would it be the same way the Jews felt when the Germans started closing down their business and synagogues? The presence of firearms changes the message and gives it a far more sinister aspect.
It's both very American....and very unAmerican.
some communities that have carry permits might also allow them to be carried in town hall meeting
???
Or checked in at the door but carried outside
???
the people made a statement just showing up. Muslims did not want to plead their case to the town.
If the Muslims in Georgia insist upon having a cemetery that only allows Muslims, clearly they are offended at having their deceased Muslims placed in graves near non-Muslims. You can bet these particular Muslims are ones that would also want Sharia Law in the United States and the conversion, subjugation and killing of non-Muslims. These are not loyal Americans, they are the enemy.Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque
"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.
Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."
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so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right
people have been heard. This is what democracy is about
as long as it stays peaceful
Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.
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I am not understanding this. Religious freedom is dependant on the approval of the majority ?Why is building a Mosque considered not assimilating? Do they need to be Baptists, too?Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque
"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.
Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."
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so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right
people have been heard. This is what democracy is about
as long as it stays peaceful
Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.
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Can Christians and Catholics and Montessori build schools? Why can't this Muslim community?
Still has to go through town approval. If the town trusted their muslim neighbors they might not object, but if they feel muslims want to impose their laws and beliefs on the town, state, country there needs to be a give and take of information and trust.
Muslims did not want to face the community so they canceled the town hall meeting.
Montessori schools have to meet standards and required teach and test students on basic subjects and mandatory testing as the rest of the state.
Religious catholic and jewish schools also.
Standards for AMI Montessori Classrooms | AMI USA
building and zoning are
religious freedom is secondary to local, state and federal laws. Sharia is not allowed to supersede them, but for some muslims it does, in their minds.
As for the cemetery, some laces do not allow a body to be buried without a coffin, or certain types of coffins. Some deaths require autopsies. Schools required to meet certain equality between sexes and standards of education and testing as well as treatment of the students.
Wake me up when Muslim countries reciprocate...Think about it for a minute. How does your rant square with the rights of Americans to worship ?Until Saudi Arabia decriminalizes non-Muslim worship and allows the open practice of non-Muslim faiths and the construction of churches and synagogues and temples, I really don't give a rat's ass how many Muzzies come crawling out of the woodwork, demanding that our Secularized Christian Republic accommodate them as they demand...
What does Saudi Arabia have to do with American citizens? Nothing. We are a pluralistic country of multiple religions and a foundation built on freedom of religion. We have no control over Saudi Arabia and what Saudi Arabia does has no bearing on how WE treat our religious groups. So lets please stop this sillyness.
It's both very American....and very unAmerican.
Exercising free speech is as American as it gets. Even if you are doing it while armed.
A city government allowing its citizens to vote on the approval or rejection of a Mosque is absolutely American.
Forcing that mosque on the people of that city, if after a vote, the majority of them reject it is what would be un-American. Remember, rejecting the mosque does not mean impeding the rights of Muslims to worship their faith.
I don't need a church building to worship God, because God is omnipotent. I am in his presence no matter where I go.
I would assume Allah works the same way for Muslims.
It's both very American....and very unAmerican.
Exercising free speech is as American as it gets. Even if you are doing it while armed.
A city government allowing its citizens to vote on the approval or rejection of a Mosque is absolutely American.
Forcing that mosque on the people of that city, if after a vote, the majority of them reject it is what would be un-American. Remember, rejecting the mosque does not mean impeding the rights of Muslims to worship their faith.
I don't need a church building to worship God, because God is omnipotent. I am in his presence no matter where I go.
I would assume Allah works the same way for Muslims.
Muslims can pray any place, even a church or synogogue, though most out of respect of the early muslims would prefer to pray in the court yard but let christians and jew pray in the mosques
Muslims, jews and christians used to pray together. Now that is growing again in popularity.
Earlier prophets and revelations were directed to those people and respected. Mohammed spoke to arabs in their own language and for their time. They were all considered right.
Why things changed is more political than religious and happened over centuries
Well there are no churches in Saudi
Then why the Hell would we allow mosques on American soil.
Bulldoze every mosque in America into the ground. I liken them to military outposts.
If the Muslims in Georgia insist upon having a cemetery that only allows Muslims, clearly they are offended at having their deceased Muslims placed in graves near non-Muslims. You can bet these particular Muslims are ones that would also want Sharia Law in the United States and the conversion, subjugation and killing of non-Muslims. These are not loyal Americans, they are the enemy.Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque
"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.
Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."
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so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right
people have been heard. This is what democracy is about
as long as it stays peaceful
Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.
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If the Muslims in Georgia insist upon having a cemetery that only allows Muslims, clearly they are offended at having their deceased Muslims placed in graves near non-Muslims. You can bet these particular Muslims are ones that would also want Sharia Law in the United States and the conversion, subjugation and killing of non-Muslims. These are not loyal Americans, they are the enemy.Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque
"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.
Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."
![]()
so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right
people have been heard. This is what democracy is about
as long as it stays peaceful
Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.
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Why is building a Mosque considered not assimilating? Do they need to be Baptists, too?Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque
"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.
Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."
![]()
so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right
people have been heard. This is what democracy is about
as long as it stays peaceful
Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.
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Can Christians and Catholics and Montessori build schools? Why can't this Muslim community?
Still has to go through town approval. If the town trusted their muslim neighbors they might not object, but if they feel muslims want to impose their laws and beliefs on the town, state, country there needs to be a give and take of information and trust.
Muslims did not want to face the community so they canceled the town hall meeting.
Montessori schools have to meet standards and required teach and test students on basic subjects and mandatory testing as the rest of the state.
Religious catholic and jewish schools also.
Standards for AMI Montessori Classrooms | AMI USA
Would you, as a minority, want to face a community that is so hostile to you they're carrying guns to protest the simple building of a school, or a cemetary or a place of worship?
There is no indication this school would be different than any other religious school.
They probably feel safer just keeping their heads down.
Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque
"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.
Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."
![]()
so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right
people have been heard. This is what democracy is about
as long as it stays peaceful
Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.
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Marching, with firearms, protesting the building of a religious house of worship, or school, or cemetary is wrong in so many ways....legal, of course, as long as it's peaceful but I wonder how I, if I were an American citizen who is Muslim, would feel seeing that. Would it be the same way the Jews felt when the Germans started closing down their business and synagogues? The presence of firearms changes the message and gives it a far more sinister aspect.
It's both very American....and very unAmerican.
some communities that have carry permits might also allow them to be carried in town hall meeting
???
Or checked in at the door but carried outside
???
the people made a statement just showing up. Muslims did not want to plead their case to the town.
Or, they are worried about violence and decided to postpone it - the article you posted pretty much says it all.
Article title: Armed militia storm council meeting after right-wing anger over Muslim plan for mosque
Local armed militia in a small US town forced a council meeting to be cancelled following growing security concerns over their presence.
The violent group of right-wing protesters carried guns into a local square to demonstrate against "the presence of Muslims" in the country
The meeting, which was expected to lift a ban on new places of worship, was called off amid growing tensions in Newton County, Georgia.
...The group, led by local resident Chris Hill, is now under investigation from Homeland Security and local law enforcement.
Newton County manager Lloyd Kerr said the group were "exhibiting harassing or violent behavior".
She added: "Unfortunately, in today’s society, uncivil threats or intentions must be taken seriously."
Following this, nearly 30 members of the armed militia stormed the local town centre armed with machine guns, forcing the mosque meeting to be cancelled.
I am not understanding this. Religious freedom is dependant on the approval of the majority ?Why is building a Mosque considered not assimilating? Do they need to be Baptists, too?Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque
"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.
Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."
![]()
so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right
people have been heard. This is what democracy is about
as long as it stays peaceful
Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.
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Can Christians and Catholics and Montessori build schools? Why can't this Muslim community?
Still has to go through town approval. If the town trusted their muslim neighbors they might not object, but if they feel muslims want to impose their laws and beliefs on the town, state, country there needs to be a give and take of information and trust.
Muslims did not want to face the community so they canceled the town hall meeting.
Montessori schools have to meet standards and required teach and test students on basic subjects and mandatory testing as the rest of the state.
Religious catholic and jewish schools also.
Standards for AMI Montessori Classrooms | AMI USA
building and zoning are
religious freedom is secondary to local, state and federal laws. Sharia is not allowed to supersede them, but for some muslims it does, in their minds.
As for the cemetery, some laces do not allow a body to be buried without a coffin, or certain types of coffins. Some deaths require autopsies. Schools required to meet certain equality between sexes and standards of education and testing as well as treatment of the students.
I don't think that's entirely true - there's considerable latitude in private religious schools and in homeschooling - they just have to meet certain educational milestones.