"My Body, My Choice": The Worst Abortion Talking Points

[satrebil]

You have no monopoly on caring, only sanctimony, but many Americans believe the baby's right to life significantly outweighs what you consider your God-Given right to snuff-out another's life because it inconveniences you. I can't begin to tell you how inhumane that rationale is and evidently you can't see anything but your own selfish wants and needs.

BTW, the baby within you is not your body, NotYourBody.

Again, I don't care at all about your moral judgements. They mean less than nothing to me.

My body. Not your body. My control. Not your control.

"My body. Not your body. My control. Not your control." - screeched the DUI suspect as he was hauled off to jail.

If only abortion was DUI, you'd have a point.

It's the same principle you're blathering about. Why the fuck is it anyone's business if I decide to get drunk and drive my car around? My body, my choice, right??

It the same way reality always works. You cannot stop someone from driving drunk, but you can arrest them and punish them if you catch them.

Same thing with abortion. You'll just have to find the pregnant woman who aborted the baby and then you can put her in jail. You CANNOT stop her from aborting the baby.

In 2015 (I think) there were well over 600,000 abortions. You probably need more jails.

Fine with me. Murderers deserve nothing less.

 

[beagle9]

You have no monopoly on caring, only sanctimony, but many Americans believe the baby's right to life significantly outweighs what you consider your God-Given right to snuff-out another's life because it inconveniences you. I can't begin to tell you how inhumane that rationale is and evidently you can't see anything but your own selfish wants and needs.

BTW, the baby within you is not your body, NotYourBody.

Again, I don't care at all about your moral judgements. They mean less than nothing to me.

My body. Not your body. My control. Not your control.

"My body. Not your body. My control. Not your control." - screeched the DUI suspect as he was hauled off to jail.

If only abortion was DUI, you'd have a point.

It's the same principle you're blathering about. Why the fuck is it anyone's business if I decide to get drunk and drive my car around? My body, my choice, right??

Exactly.... Then when someone is killed (another human being), by ones drunkenness, it still doesn't work in court by the person claiming my body, my choice.

 

[dblack]

So women feel empowered in an abortion? You are the most ignorant person yet.

I'm totally okay with your moral judgements. The answer to control of my body and it's internal processes is still NO.

You can stomp your feet and say no all you'd like, your body is and always will be subject to a higher authority. It's why you can't sell a kidney. It's why you can't engage in prostitution. It's why you can't procure illicit substances. It's why you can't drive drunk. Etc. "My body my choice" is a fallacious argument used only by those who have no valid argument to begin with.

And yet all those things still happen, just like abortion.

Reminder - I don't need an argument. All I have to do is say NO to your attempted control. And I'm really not sure how you will know that I had an abortion. You gonna look for the body?

Indeed they do, and people are punished for them accordingly. Let us know how saying "NO" to a judge works out for you, pinhead.

Would there be regular inspections? Random? How would this enforcement mechanism work?

 

[NotYourBody]

And HOW exactly is the law going to know I was ever pregnant in the first place? Or that I performed an abortion on myself?

Reality. It's always better to concentrate on the things you CAN control.

When you show up at a hospital with injuries you sustained in your attempt, idiot.

Did I say or imply that every person who has an abortion would be caught? No, I did not. FFS there are murderers roaming free right all over the country at this very moment. The fact that they haven't been caught doesn't absolve them.[/QUOTE]

I guess I better stay away from the hospital! You still haven't caught me OR stopped me. And the abortion still happened. You failed again.

 

[Dragonlady]

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I will never allow ANYONE to have ANY control over my body EVER. ....

You already do. You always have. You want it that way, you need it that way.

Another winner! Wow, so much Winning! today. I love it!

And who said conservatives can't accept reality?

Your arrested development is preventing you from looking at things rationally.

There are many many laws that prevent you or me or anyone else from doing certain things with our bodies and/or to other people. Without these laws people like you, for example, would not Long survive. Therefore, you have always lived under a system where you are specifically told what you can and cannot do with your body. You want it that way. You need it that way. This is the truth no matter what the little five-year-old emotional basket case inside U screams about.

The prohibition against abortion is about as useful as the prohibition against suicide. Abortion has been with us since the caveman days when the herbal healers identified plants which were aborificants and women used them. The "witches" who were burned at the stake were midwives and herbal healers who often provided women with abortions as well as delivering their babies. Burn them alive. Witches all!

You fools are no different. Seeking to control women or jail them for making their own decisions. As always, only the poor will be forced to procreate. The middle class white people will still be able to afford a weekend in Canada. Only the poor will be harmed by these laws.

Same as it ever was.

 

[buttercup]

\ How about avoiding getting pregnant to begin with ??

Is that so hard ??

How about you mind your own business? Is that so hard?

Have you ever considered the fact that by the time a woman gestates ONE unwanted pregnancy, a man can literally create thousands of unwanted pregnancies?

You are concentrating on the wrong thing. That's why your abortion war has already failed. You are trying to control things you cannot.

Worry about your own body. I will do the same.

Gosh, this thread is repetitive. But in the small chance that you actually are new here (which I highly doubt) let’s go through this again. There are TWO bodies involved, TWO lives.

The bodily autonomy talking point is of the easiest to debunk. Because if it was actually true, it would be true throughout the entire nine months of pregnancy. And no sane person, only a soulless sociopath believes it would be perfectly OK to butcher a full-term baby just minutes away from delivery, simply because he or she is still in the mother’s body. That is no different than infanticide. Pure evil. So unless you agree with infanticide, your argument completely collapses.

It IS incredibly repetitive. I'm not arguing. I'm stating reality.

At no time will I EVER EVER EVER allow anyone to control my body or what is inside of it. Period. End of debate.

You can throw a tantrump about that but it doesn't CHANGE anything. You don't know I'm pregnant. You can't stop me. You can TRY, it just won't ever work. I will defend myself from you I promise!

I'm not new here. I've lurked for along time. This topic got me interested enough to sign up. That's the story, not very exciting I'm afraid.

You sound like an angry, rebellious immature child. Zero personal responsibility, zero desire to be accountable for your own actions, just selfishness and immaturity.

You have free will but the fact remains and always will remain that you advocate murder. Thankfully, the world IS changing. More and more people (especially with advancing technology of ultrasounds) are realizing the truth about abortion, and imo it’s very likely that the laws will eventually reflect that.

But even if it doesn’t change, there is still a higher law and you will be held accountable for your actions, your selfishness, your willful blindness, and all the evil things you advocate. I have zero doubt about that.

 

[satrebil]

I guess I better stay away from the hospital! You still haven't caught me OR stopped me. And the abortion still happened. You failed again.

Once again, where did I say that abortions would be 100% prevented?

 

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[NotYourBody]

\ How about avoiding getting pregnant to begin with ??

Is that so hard ??

How about you mind your own business? Is that so hard?

Have you ever considered the fact that by the time a woman gestates ONE unwanted pregnancy, a man can literally create thousands of unwanted pregnancies?

You are concentrating on the wrong thing. That's why your abortion war has already failed. You are trying to control things you cannot.

Worry about your own body. I will do the same.

Someone convinced you or rung your arm to come in here ?? Mind your own business, and don't kill for starters. You are so adamant about controlling your own body until you fall into the sack eh ?? Then for some reason you are out of control of your own body ??

Is that not the same for a man? Are condoms too hard? too big? too small? the sperms slip out even when you wear one?

Probably best for everyone to control the actions the CAN control.

 

[dblack]

All you all bitches belong to the state!

 

[satrebil]

...

I will never allow ANYONE to have ANY control over my body EVER. ....

You already do. You always have. You want it that way, you need it that way.

Another winner! Wow, so much Winning! today. I love it!

And who said conservatives can't accept reality?

Your arrested development is preventing you from looking at things rationally.

There are many many laws that prevent you or me or anyone else from doing certain things with our bodies and/or to other people. Without these laws people like you, for example, would not Long survive. Therefore, you have always lived under a system where you are specifically told what you can and cannot do with your body. You want it that way. You need it that way. This is the truth no matter what the little five-year-old emotional basket case inside U screams about.

The prohibition against abortion is about as useful as the prohibition against suicide. Abortion has been with us since the caveman days when the herbal healers identified plants which were aborificants and women used them. The "witches" who were burned at the stake were midwives and herbal healers who often provided women with abortions as well as delivering their babies. Burn them alive. Witches all!

You fools are no different. Seeking to control women or jail them for making their own decisions. As always, only the poor will be forced to procreate. The middle class white people will still be able to afford a weekend in Canada. Only the poor will be harmed by these laws.

Same as it ever was.

It's not about control, it's about protecting the innocent. Baby killer.

 

[beagle9]

You have no monopoly on caring, only sanctimony, but many Americans believe the baby's right to life significantly outweighs what you consider your God-Given right to snuff-out another's life because it inconveniences you. I can't begin to tell you how inhumane that rationale is and evidently you can't see anything but your own selfish wants and needs.

BTW, the baby within you is not your body, NotYourBody.

Again, I don't care at all about your moral judgements. They mean less than nothing to me.

My body. Not your body. My control. Not your control.

"My body. Not your body. My control. Not your control." - screeched the DUI suspect as he was hauled off to jail.

If only abortion was DUI, you'd have a point.

It's the same principle you're blathering about. Why the fuck is it anyone's business if I decide to get drunk and drive my car around? My body, my choice, right??

It the same way reality always works. You cannot stop someone from driving drunk, but you can arrest them and punish them if you catch them.

Same thing with abortion. You'll just have to find the pregnant woman who aborted the baby and then you can put her in jail. You CANNOT stop her from aborting the baby.

In 2015 (I think) there were well over 600,000 abortions. You probably need more jails.

No need for more jails, just a renewed education for prevention process to take place, and a renewed responsibility education, and to reinstate the conciousness of respect for human life that has been lost in all of this mess. The idoctronation of the citizens for years is something huge to undo.

 

[NotYourBody]

I guess I better stay away from the hospital! You still haven't caught me OR stopped me. And the abortion still happened. You failed again.

Once again, where did I say that abortions would be 100% prevented?

You won't prevent ANY abortions with pro-choice women. You just think you will.

 

[dblack]

No need for more jails, just a renewed education for prevention process to take place, and a renewed responsibility education, and to reinstate the conciousness of respect for human life that has been lost in all of this mess. The idoctronation of the citizens for years is something huge to undo.

Heh.. un.

At least you admit the scope of what you want to do. Does the term "social engineering" ring a bell?

 

[beagle9]

I'm totally okay with your moral judgements. The answer to control of my body and it's internal processes is still NO.

You can stomp your feet and say no all you'd like, your body is and always will be subject to a higher authority. It's why you can't sell a kidney. It's why you can't engage in prostitution. It's why you can't procure illicit substances. It's why you can't drive drunk. Etc. "My body my choice" is a fallacious argument used only by those who have no valid argument to begin with.

And yet all those things still happen, just like abortion.

Reminder - I don't need an argument. All I have to do is say NO to your attempted control. And I'm really not sure how you will know that I had an abortion. You gonna look for the body?

Indeed they do, and people are punished for them accordingly. Let us know how saying "NO" to a judge works out for you, pinhead.

And HOW exactly is the law going to know I was ever pregnant in the first place? Or that I performed an abortion on myself?

Reality. It's always better to concentrate on the things you CAN control.

That's just it. Some problems, most problems, can't be solved by passing a law. And when we try to legislate those problems anyway, it does more harm than good. We tried outlawing abortion, it didn't work.

It didn't work with Prohibition. Alcohol abuse was, and still is, a horrible problem that destroys countless lives. The reformers were sure that their goal justified any means. We learned better. We found better ways of dealing with the problem.

This post sounds like "hey evil is winning", just don't fight it anymore.

 

[satrebil]

I guess I better stay away from the hospital! You still haven't caught me OR stopped me. And the abortion still happened. You failed again.

Once again, where did I say that abortions would be 100% prevented?

You won't prevent ANY abortions with pro-choice women. You just think you will.

Go ahead, ram a coathanger up your snatch. When you perforate your uterus and bleed to death from your "choice" there will be one less baby killer in the world.

 

[beagle9]

No need for more jails, just a renewed education for prevention process to take place, and a renewed responsibility education, and to reinstate the conciousness of respect for human life that has been lost in all of this mess. The idoctronation of the citizens for years is something huge to undo.

Heh.. un.

At least you admit the scope of what you want to do. Does the term "social engineering" ring a bell?

Saving lives is social engineering now ??? LOL

 

[NotYourBody]

No need for more jails, just a renewed education for prevention process to take place, and a renewed responsibility education, and to reinstate the conciousness of respect for human life that has been lost in all of this mess. The idoctronation of the citizens for years is something huge to undo.

100% I support unwanted pregnancy prevention. That's where all the efforts should be concentrated. Once the unwanted pregnancy has occurred, it can't be controlled by anyone except the mother who contains it inside her body.

 

[SAYIT]

Wrong. The mother can easily give the baby to adoptive parents. How heinous to kill your child, because you don’t want to carry it for nine months. Nothing a human being can do is easier than preventing an unwanted pregnancy...

So you avoided the position on the right to limit access top birth control.

Typically LAME, strawman deflection. Few if any here have argued to limit access to birth control. We are talking about what you leftards consider women's God-Given right to slaughter and flush a baby's life.

 

[beagle9]

And HOW exactly is the law going to know I was ever pregnant in the first place? Or that I performed an abortion on myself?

Reality. It's always better to concentrate on the things you CAN control.

When you show up at a hospital with injuries you sustained in your attempt, idiot.

Did I say or imply that every person who has an abortion would be caught? No, I did not. FFS there are murderers roaming free right all over the country at this very moment. The fact that they haven't been caught doesn't absolve them.

I guess I better stay away from the hospital! You still haven't caught me OR stopped me. And the abortion still happened. You failed again.[/QUOTE]

Are you talking pre-meditated murder, and then hiding the fact ?