Neo-Confederate libertarians are not conservatives.

[TakeAStepBack]

Secession isn't insurgency, Dullard. They seceded and told the federal government to remove their troops from southern states. The feds refused. They were the aggressor. They started the war.

 

[thanatos144]

What happened to neo-confederate libertarians?

So the things we know about Lincoln were made up?

Like that he had an arrest warrant put out for a chief justice?
Or that he unconstitutionally and unilaterally suspended habeas corpus?
Or that he arrested journalists by executive order?
Or that was wasn't an abolitionist?
Or that he couldn't have cared less about the slaves politically?
Or that he confiscated private property, including firearms?
Or that he launched an invasion without congressional consent?
Or that he spent years in the trench as a staunch supporter of the
“American System” of protectionist tariffs, tax subsidies to corporations, and centralized banking?
Or that he hypocritically said this “Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right --a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Nor is the right confined to cases I which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit.”



That propaganda?

Neo confederates like you believe the propaganda and they actually champion the Confederate movement your what happened to the old school Democrats the progressive movement is only slightly different than yours

 

[TakeAStepBack]

SO, you're saying this is propaganda? Is that your contention, Cork?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Unlike you I actually studied history especially the Civil War thing I was very interested in it when I was younger.the Mistake you make and most your idiot kind makes is that you think this is a discussion of secession. It isn't. The Confederate States of America wasn't evil because they seceded they were evil because at the core they were slaver Democrats. The confederates are the ultimate act of progressive ideals just because they used a loophole that they felt was in the Declaration of Independence doesn't mean they were right. Not to mention most about you think you know about Lincoln is actual propaganda created by the Confederates against him during war. This would be equal to us believing everything the comes out of Hamas or the PLO. A true conservative does not sympathize with the ideals the Confederate States of America that would be like empathizing with communists

So the Colonies were evil because they held slaves as well, right?

Do you think I should apologize for them I don't care about your I don't care about your white guilt get over yourself the colonist didn't start a war just to save slavery the Confederates did

So you don't actually care about slavery at all. Slavery itself is fine in your mind. The issue is how much you talk about slavery. Talk about it too much and you're an evil slaver, but if you just sweep it under the rug like the Colonists did then you're good to go. Got it.

Can I also point out that it makes no sense to call me a racist on one hand, and talk about how I have "white guilt" on the other?

 

[thanatos144]

So the Colonies were evil because they held slaves as well, right?

Do you think I should apologize for them I don't care about your I don't care about your white guilt get over yourself the colonist didn't start a war just to save slavery the Confederates did

So you don't actually care about slavery at all. Slavery itself is fine in your mind. The issue is how much you talk about slavery. Talk about it too much and you're an evil slaver, but if you just sweep it under the rug like the Colonists did then you're good to go. Got it.

Can I also point out that it makes no sense to call me a racist on one hand, and talk about how I have "white guilt" on the other?

Look at the child trying to be clever. Please take your dishonesty Elsewhere. Fact is I an not the one who is endorsing a fascist government built on slavery you are. Because colonist had slaves and some of the founding fathers had slaves does not excuse slavery it's just the opposite. I don't expect you to understand why don't you wait to Ron Paul gives you what you need to think.

 

[bripat9643]

Unlike you I actually studied history especially the Civil War thing I was very interested in it when I was younger.the Mistake you make and most your idiot kind makes is that you think this is a discussion of secession. It isn't. The Confederate States of America wasn't evil because they seceded they were evil because at the core they were slaver Democrats. The confederates are the ultimate act of progressive ideals just because they used a loophole that they felt was in the Declaration of Independence doesn't mean they were right. Not to mention most about you think you know about Lincoln is actual propaganda created by the Confederates against him during war. This would be equal to us believing everything the comes out of Hamas or the PLO. A true conservative does not sympathize with the ideals the Confederate States of America that would be like empathizing with communists

So the Colonies were evil because they held slaves as well, right?

Do you think I should apologize for them I don't care about your I don't care about your white guilt get over yourself the colonist didn't start a war just to save slavery the Confederates did

They didn't start the war. Lincoln did.

 

[thanatos144]

So the Colonies were evil because they held slaves as well, right?

Do you think I should apologize for them I don't care about your I don't care about your white guilt get over yourself the colonist didn't start a war just to save slavery the Confederates did

They didn't start war. Lincoln did.

They did start the war. That is historical fact and you're wishing it away doesn't change that fact

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

The norm for Republican Presidents except for the last one Catastrophic Failure 43 ...he exceeded all levels of stupid....

You're very stupid; which is why you're a leftist.

As with virtually all leftists, you've never read any part of the Constitution, you have zero grasp how the Republic operates, and you don't grasp that states are separate entities from the federal government.

With all 10 of your IQ points firing, you claim "Nixon shot students at Kent state." Yes, your fellow Marxists all smile, as do you.

But stupid fuck, may I call you "stupid fuck?" Anyway, shit fer brains, the President doesn't call out the National Guard - it isn't how the system in the USA works. YOU dream of a dictatorship where we have one supreme ruler, but that isn't the case, and SURE the fuck wasn't in 1969. Ohio Governor Jim Rhodes had the ONLY authority to dispatch the Ohio National Guard, which he did. Nixon had not a fucking thing to do with it.

You fucking retard.

You Mad Bro ?

 

[bripat9643]

Do you think I should apologize for them I don't care about your I don't care about your white guilt get over yourself the colonist didn't start a war just to save slavery the Confederates did

They didn't start war. Lincoln did.

They did start the war. That is historical fact and you're wishing it away doesn't change that fact

The historical fact is that Lincoln invaded the state of Virginia at the First battle of Bull run. If you're thinking of Fort Sumter, you're mistaken. Sending armed ships into the territorial waters of South Carolina was an act of war.

 

[thanatos144]

They didn't start war. Lincoln did.

They did start the war. That is historical fact and you're wishing it away doesn't change that fact

The historical fact is that Lincoln invaded the state of Virginia at the First battle of Bull run. If you're thinking of Fort Sumter, you're mistaken. Sending armed ships into the territorial waters of South Carolina was an act of war.

You are so full of s*** seeing as fort Sumpter was there before there was a Confederate States of America

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

What happened to neo-confederate libertarians?

So the things we know about Lincoln were made up?

Like that he had an arrest warrant put out for a chief justice?
Or that he unconstitutionally and unilaterally suspended habeas corpus?
Or that he arrested journalists by executive order?
Or that was wasn't an abolitionist?
Or that he couldn't have cared less about the slaves politically?
Or that he confiscated private property, including firearms?
Or that he launched an invasion without congressional consent?
Or that he spent years in the trench as a staunch supporter of the
“American System” of protectionist tariffs, tax subsidies to corporations, and centralized banking?
Or that he hypocritically said this “Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right --a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Nor is the right confined to cases I which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit.”



That propaganda?

You got Gettysburg ed then the Armageddon at Appomattox..too bad..so sad ..

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Sup, Cork? Did you stock the beer cooler?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

What happened to neo-confederate libertarians?

So the things we know about Lincoln were made up?

Like that he had an arrest warrant put out for a chief justice?
Or that he unconstitutionally and unilaterally suspended habeas corpus?
Or that he arrested journalists by executive order?
Or that was wasn't an abolitionist?
Or that he couldn't have cared less about the slaves politically?
Or that he confiscated private property, including firearms?
Or that he launched an invasion without congressional consent?
Or that he spent years in the trench as a staunch supporter of the
“American System” of protectionist tariffs, tax subsidies to corporations, and centralized banking?
Or that he hypocritically said this “Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right --a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Nor is the right confined to cases I which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit.”



That propaganda?

You got Gettysburg ed then the Armageddon at Appomattox..too bad..so sad ..

You got shit for brains, so its a wash.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

We have a shot now of those desperate Truthers of the Confederacy dashing themselves against the wall of reality

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

What happened to neo-confederate libertarians?

So the things we know about Lincoln were made up?

Like that he had an arrest warrant put out for a chief justice?
Or that he unconstitutionally and unilaterally suspended habeas corpus?
Or that he arrested journalists by executive order?
Or that was wasn't an abolitionist?
Or that he couldn't have cared less about the slaves politically?
Or that he confiscated private property, including firearms?
Or that he launched an invasion without congressional consent?
Or that he spent years in the trench as a staunch supporter of the
“American System” of protectionist tariffs, tax subsidies to corporations, and centralized banking?
Or that he hypocritically said this “Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right --a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Nor is the right confined to cases I which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit.”



That propaganda?

You got Gettysburg ed then the Armageddon at Appomattox..too bad..so sad ..

You got shit for brains, so its a wash.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Some folks say Jefferson Davis and Robert E Lee were gay lovers...we cannot confirm this at this time...

 

[Uncensored2008]

You Mad Bro ?

Nope, just pointing out that you are inDELably a fucking retard..

 

[bripat9643]

They did start the war. That is historical fact and you're wishing it away doesn't change that fact

The historical fact is that Lincoln invaded the state of Virginia at the First battle of Bull run. If you're thinking of Fort Sumter, you're mistaken. Sending armed ships into the territorial waters of South Carolina was an act of war.

You are so full of s*** seeing as fort Sumpter was there before there was a Confederate States of America

Fort Sumter was always within the territorial boundaries of South Carolina. The latter sold the property to the federal government. They didn't ceded the territory. Furthermore, when union ships attempted to resupply for Sumter, then entered into the territorial waters of South Carolina.

The union maneuver was an act of war. There is no possible way to conceive it otherwise.

 

[flacaltenn]

A "neo-Confederate Libertarian" eh????

Met a couple once.. The Duke kids.. Daisy had nice legs..
Didn't believe in obeying the corrupt neo-Fascist Dumocrat local sheriff..

Didn't know the Duke kids were pro-slave-ownin' tho....

What kind of drugs you on boy? Answer me one question...
You REALLY THINK the 10th Amendment is JUST a Green light for slavery?
Obviously not huh? So WHAT OTHER RIGHTS are reserved to the States?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Do you think I should apologize for them I don't care about your I don't care about your white guilt get over yourself the colonist didn't start a war just to save slavery the Confederates did

So you don't actually care about slavery at all. Slavery itself is fine in your mind. The issue is how much you talk about slavery. Talk about it too much and you're an evil slaver, but if you just sweep it under the rug like the Colonists did then you're good to go. Got it.

Can I also point out that it makes no sense to call me a racist on one hand, and talk about how I have "white guilt" on the other?

Look at the child trying to be clever. Please take your dishonesty Elsewhere. Fact is I an not the one who is endorsing a fascist government built on slavery you are. Because colonist had slaves and some of the founding fathers had slaves does not excuse slavery it's just the opposite. I don't expect you to understand why don't you wait to Ron Paul gives you what you need to think.

Actually you are. Lincoln was certainly a fascist, and the Union over which he presided kept slavery legal. So you are, in fact, endorsing a fascist government built on slavery. I, on the other hand, am not endorsing any government.