NEW POLLS show swing voters are AGAINST more immigration

[Third Party]

Well they can go to your kids schools

What do you care? You dropped out long ago. And if you had the ability to read the post, you would see that he was calling for legal, not illegal immigration. Most LEGAL immigrants are worth - as students and as human beings - three little punks the likes of you.

Yes legal merit based immigrants that can assimilate! I went to schools where these dumb foreigners went, they flooded black schools because they knew black parents wouldn’t complain.. how does it make a poor black school better to flood there schools with people who are a. Stupid in there own country, and b. Can’t speak English.. you think poor black schools got better?? They are getting worse.. you racist arse

Gee. Immigrants who can’t speak English. That never happened before in the history of this country!

... spoke their home language only at home.

Pure myth, not true.

I lived it friend, back in the fifties

 

[mudwhistle]

Poll: Swing Voters Oppose 2020 Democrats Promising More Immigration

Thank god!
Democrats can’t win!

Great, but I say allow one legal in for every two illegals deported. Those with merit or means.

No.....deport all of the illegals to CA.
Plop them on Nancy Pelosi's doorstep.

 

[Third Party]

Yes legal merit based immigrants that can assimilate! I went to schools where these dumb foreigners went, they flooded black schools because they knew black parents wouldn’t complain.. how does it make a poor black school better to flood there schools with people who are a. Stupid in there own country, and b. Can’t speak English.. you think poor black schools got better?? They are getting worse.. you racist arse

Gee. Immigrants who can’t speak English. That never happened before in the history of this country!

Sure but they tried to learn quickly and spoke their home language only at home.

Actually, not really...they had their own foreign language newspapers and grocery stores and bars and churches. They spoke the mother tongue in their communitees. Subsequent generations, then and now spoke good English.

....we walked around all day telling people to speak English.. glorious days! And will return

No, “we” didn’t, kid. Actual history is not merely a manifestation of your own personal fear and imagination, kid.

Actually I did see that, not all day every day, but I saw it several times.

 

[Third Party]

Yes legal merit based immigrants that can assimilate! I went to schools where these dumb foreigners went, they flooded black schools because they knew black parents wouldn’t complain.. how does it make a poor black school better to flood there schools with people who are a. Stupid in there own country, and b. Can’t speak English.. you think poor black schools got better?? They are getting worse.. you racist arse

Gee. Immigrants who can’t speak English. That never happened before in the history of this country!

Sure but they tried to learn quickly and spoke their home language only at home.

Actually, not really...they had their own foreign language newspapers and grocery stores and bars and churches. They spoke the mother tongue in their communitees. Subsequent generations, then and now spoke good English.

Right, but they did not speak it in front of Americans who were already here. ....

Bullshit. Do you really think that every time some wasp wondered into Little Italy or Chinatown everyone just fell into submissive silence? Don’t be absurd.

Don't be dense-not in those places in the city outskirts in different states. Saw it myself

 

[Third Party]

Well they can go to your kids schools

What do you care? You dropped out long ago. And if you had the ability to read the post, you would see that he was calling for legal, not illegal immigration. Most LEGAL immigrants are worth - as students and as human beings - three little punks the likes of you.

Yes legal merit based immigrants that can assimilate! I went to schools where these dumb foreigners went, they flooded black schools because they knew black parents wouldn’t complain.. how does it make a poor black school better to flood there schools with people who are a. Stupid in there own country, and b. Can’t speak English.. you think poor black schools got better?? They are getting worse.. you racist arse

Gee. Immigrants who can’t speak English. That never happened before in the history of this country!

Yea but 20 years ago I didn't have to press "1" for english [sic] in my own god damned country.

Maybe you need to start going to the gym to build up the strength necessary to press a fucking button, weakling.

And it’s “English.” Learn the language or get out.

How about a Russian option? Or Chinese? Good for the goose...

 

[Norman]

We have more than enough people in this country right now. We sure don't need any more freeloaders.

Used to be if you wanted to come the US you had to have a sponsor. A sponsor who would take care of all your needs.

Its was a great idea and should be done now.

We already have 20 million illegals in our country that cost us billions each year. We sure don't need any more.

They should cease immigration for five years.

The truth is that if it weren't for immigration, the population of the US would be shrinking as would our economy.

When asked if the average American citizen would be better off if the US let in more low-skilled immigrants, only 10% of the economists polled in a 2013 survey said no.¹ But 89% of those same economists said there was a chance that more immigration would leave many low-skilled American workers substantially worse off. Obviously, that’s not everyone’s opinion, but it seems a lot of economists feel that economic migration boosts the overall economy for the place the migrants are going, but can cause problems for people already at the bottom of the economic ladder.

Not the American's share of the economy, which would be astronomical without immigration. Our per capita measures are much lower because we take in worker drones that only decrease American wages.

 

[Third Party]

Well start your one thread.. America doesn’t want immigration

Thanks but this thread needs lots of fact checking, it is filled with lies and distortions...

64% of America does want immigration:

Thinking now about immigrants -- that is, people who come from other countries to live here in the United States, in your view, should immigration be kept at its present level, increased or decreased?

2019 Jun 3-16 Present level Increased Decreased No opinion
37 27 35 2

Americans want legal immigration but don't want illegal immigration-that is just common sense.

Does anyone want illegal immigration?

Yes. Every Dim running for the presidency wants more illegal immigration.

Never heard any Dem say that. Got a quote or link?

Open borders qualifies-heard that didn't you?

 

[Third Party]

Probably true except the Catholic Church, I've only heard them criticize how we've treated the illegals. Except that is different. The rest are minor players.

A priest dragged illegals across and the Pope said let all the illegals in the USA.

I only found the Pope asking countries to accept migrants and for rich countries to aid poor ones. Nothing about illegal immigrants beyond a plea to treat everyone humanely. Sounds like standard Christianity to me. I couldn't find anything on a priest dragging illegals across our border. Got a link?

"Humanely" is code for allow anyone who wants in to come in.

So you prefer to treat people inhumanely? You're a peach.

Legals welcome, illegals not welcome

 

[bripat9643]

We have more than enough people in this country right now.....

In fact, we do not.

Yes we do.

Immigration is good.
Illegals are not. Incentive for illegals is not.

What's good about immigration? How do I benefit from it?

I think there is a lot of parables to debate but overall I see it as it as a net
I don't hate on the opinions in the negative though

Did you mean to say it's a net positive? What's the positive?

Skills. Ambition.
I am for immigration but I don't agree with the way it is done now. I think it is bullshit. It is too corporatist for my blood.
Cheap and illegal labor. No skills. More families on the dole. Fuck that.

We already have plenty of people with skill and ambition. Importing more only means Americans have to compete against cheap foreigners. My profession is flooded with IT people from India.

 

[bripat9643]

the same things folks are sayin' about Mexicans they said about Poles, and italians, and the irish

So? They were right when they said it about Poles, and italians, and the irish.

 

[Third Party]

In fact, we do not.

Yes we do.

Immigration is good.
Illegals are not. Incentive for illegals is not.

What's good about immigration? How do I benefit from it?

I think there is a lot of parables to debate but overall I see it as it as a net
I don't hate on the opinions in the negative though

Did you mean to say it's a net positive? What's the positive?

Skills. Ambition.
I am for immigration but I don't agree with the way it is done now. I think it is bullshit. It is too corporatist for my blood.
Cheap and illegal labor. No skills. More families on the dole. Fuck that.

We already have plenty of people with skill and ambition. Importing more only means Americans have to compete against cheap foreigners. My profession is flooded with IT people from India.

So you want low skill workers? If it is a problem for you and yours, YOU need to offer solutions-we will help you if we can.

 

[DOTR]

Poll: Swing Voters Oppose 2020 Democrats Promising More Immigration

Thank god!
Democrats can’t win!

They can if they bring in enough new voters.

 

[bripat9643]

Probably true except the Catholic Church, I've only heard them criticize how we've treated the illegals. Except that is different. The rest are minor players.

A priest dragged illegals across and the Pope said let all the illegals in the USA.

I only found the Pope asking countries to accept migrants and for rich countries to aid poor ones. Nothing about illegal immigrants beyond a plea to treat everyone humanely. Sounds like standard Christianity to me. I couldn't find anything on a priest dragging illegals across our border. Got a link?

"Humanely" is code for allow anyone who wants in to come in.

So you prefer to treat people inhumanely? You're a peach.

Only open borders douche bags believe not allowing them into our country is "inhumane."

 

[alang1216]

We have more than enough people in this country right now. We sure don't need any more freeloaders.

Used to be if you wanted to come the US you had to have a sponsor. A sponsor who would take care of all your needs.

Its was a great idea and should be done now.

We already have 20 million illegals in our country that cost us billions each year. We sure don't need any more.

They should cease immigration for five years.

The truth is that if it weren't for immigration, the population of the US would be shrinking as would our economy.

When asked if the average American citizen would be better off if the US let in more low-skilled immigrants, only 10% of the economists polled in a 2013 survey said no.¹ But 89% of those same economists said there was a chance that more immigration would leave many low-skilled American workers substantially worse off. Obviously, that’s not everyone’s opinion, but it seems a lot of economists feel that economic migration boosts the overall economy for the place the migrants are going, but can cause problems for people already at the bottom of the economic ladder.

IT would not be shrinking.

One has only to go to the census website, remove the stats for immigrants and you'll see that the US, without immigration, is growing at a rate of approx 2 million per year.

You're correct, I misspoke. The population would not shrink without immigration. However, the estimates I found say that the increase in population between now and 2060 would only be 4 million. It would be the working age population that would shrink.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes we do.
What's good about immigration? How do I benefit from it?

I think there is a lot of parables to debate but overall I see it as it as a net
I don't hate on the opinions in the negative though

Did you mean to say it's a net positive? What's the positive?

Skills. Ambition.
I am for immigration but I don't agree with the way it is done now. I think it is bullshit. It is too corporatist for my blood.
Cheap and illegal labor. No skills. More families on the dole. Fuck that.

We already have plenty of people with skill and ambition. Importing more only means Americans have to compete against cheap foreigners. My profession is flooded with IT people from India.

So you want low skill workers? If it is a problem for you and yours, YOU need to offer solutions-we will help you if we can.

I want no immigration, period. We simply don't need any more people in this country.

 

[Third Party]

Poll: Swing Voters Oppose 2020 Democrats Promising More Immigration

Thank god!
Democrats can’t win!

They can if they bring in enough new voters.

Or have illegals vote, and, yes they do.

 

[alang1216]

Probably true except the Catholic Church, I've only heard them criticize how we've treated the illegals. Except that is different. The rest are minor players.

A priest dragged illegals across and the Pope said let all the illegals in the USA.

I only found the Pope asking countries to accept migrants and for rich countries to aid poor ones. Nothing about illegal immigrants beyond a plea to treat everyone humanely. Sounds like standard Christianity to me. I couldn't find anything on a priest dragging illegals across our border. Got a link?

"Humanely" is code for allow anyone who wants in to come in.

So you prefer to treat people inhumanely? You're a peach.

Only open borders douche bags believe not allowing them into our country is "inhumane."

What kind of douche bag would treat children inhumanely once they are here?

 

[Third Party]

I think there is a lot of parables to debate but overall I see it as it as a net
I don't hate on the opinions in the negative though

Did you mean to say it's a net positive? What's the positive?

Skills. Ambition.
I am for immigration but I don't agree with the way it is done now. I think it is bullshit. It is too corporatist for my blood.
Cheap and illegal labor. No skills. More families on the dole. Fuck that.

We already have plenty of people with skill and ambition. Importing more only means Americans have to compete against cheap foreigners. My profession is flooded with IT people from India.

So you want low skill workers? If it is a problem for you and yours, YOU need to offer solutions-we will help you if we can.

I want no immigration, period. We simply don't need any more people in this country.

What if you traded? Prison lifers sent to exile on islands or illegal aliens deported. Can we at least get a one for one?

 

[alang1216]

We have more than enough people in this country right now. We sure don't need any more freeloaders.

Used to be if you wanted to come the US you had to have a sponsor. A sponsor who would take care of all your needs.

Its was a great idea and should be done now.

We already have 20 million illegals in our country that cost us billions each year. We sure don't need any more.

They should cease immigration for five years.

The truth is that if it weren't for immigration, the population of the US would be shrinking as would our economy.

When asked if the average American citizen would be better off if the US let in more low-skilled immigrants, only 10% of the economists polled in a 2013 survey said no.¹ But 89% of those same economists said there was a chance that more immigration would leave many low-skilled American workers substantially worse off. Obviously, that’s not everyone’s opinion, but it seems a lot of economists feel that economic migration boosts the overall economy for the place the migrants are going, but can cause problems for people already at the bottom of the economic ladder.

Not the American's share of the economy, which would be astronomical without immigration. Our per capita measures are much lower because we take in worker drones that only decrease American wages.

That might be true if the economy was zero sum game. It is not and immigration grows the economy for all. With our low birth rate and aging population, immigration is absolutely necessary just to maintain our standard of living.

 

[DOTR]

A priest dragged illegals across and the Pope said let all the illegals in the USA.

I only found the Pope asking countries to accept migrants and for rich countries to aid poor ones. Nothing about illegal immigrants beyond a plea to treat everyone humanely. Sounds like standard Christianity to me. I couldn't find anything on a priest dragging illegals across our border. Got a link?

"Humanely" is code for allow anyone who wants in to come in.

So you prefer to treat people inhumanely? You're a peach.

Only open borders douche bags believe not allowing them into our country is "inhumane."

What kind of douche bag would treat children inhumanely once they are here?

The liberal kind. This kind. Every liberal here.