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That is a faulty assumption by evolutionist.
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You just contradicted your own theory.
If a family can't be produced by a breed how did birds evolve from dinosaurs ?
How did apes produce humans ?
What did I say that contradicted the theory of evolution? That new species form within a family?
You said thats what i am saying.i said a breed can't produce a family and you agreed. What ever biologist say humans diverged from is a breed.
A family don't produce another family either.
That is a faulty assumption by evolutionist.
Tak a hike,you don't know me well enough to make such a comment fool.
I can see your silly arguments clear enough. At least 2 other posters seem to think you don't really seem to grasp the nature of Evolution. If you can't handle the brutal truth about your arguments and the big honking glaring flaws in it, so be it.
You are using stock replies from the typical sources. You think you are the only one to claim:
"No evidence of Macro-evolution"
"Its only a theory"
"It just is designed, OK!"
These are old worn out tropes for Creationism. You are not dazzling anyone with your brilliance by using them.
I am waiting for you to claim that "evolution is an atheist conspiracy and the creation scientists are being excluded from the scientific world unfairly"
That being said, if evolution was so flawed, you would have seen thousands of peer reviewed scientific journal articles to support your theory. EVERY biologist would give their kidneys to be the one to come up with a new theory which they could attach their name to. But you don't. What we have is some self-reflexive articles by people who are not taken seriously by any recognized scientific body.
In fact the he National Center for Science Education decided to compile a list-- one with very, very strict guidelines. Each scientist who signed had to agree that creationism was, in fact, silly and that it should not be taught in schools. They had to be from an area of science where their expertise was actually pertinent and, finally, because this apparently needed to be stipulated, they had to be an actual scientist. Oh, and in order to sign, you had to be named Steve or a variant thereof. As it stands, over 1000 Steves are on the list, including Stephen Hawking.
Explaining the reasoning behind the stunt, the scientific community noted that they could have easily compiled a contradicting list of tens of thousands of signatures. But focusing on scientists not named Steve would have taken too much time, and they had things to do.
You sound like later trader did you change screen names ?
I don't need peer reviews to tell me what i am observing in the many labs i worked. That might impress you,but that does not do much for me. Misinformation is accepted all the time do you think peer reviews can't be wrong ?
So you think the science community can't be wrong ?
Well i have been in that community for many years, you're in denial if you deny that there are not ideologues from both sides in the science community. It does effect their presuppositions.
Well you come in to a conversation lobbing insults from the start, how should you be received ?
You definately remind me of later trader. If what i say can't be supported by the evidence then feel free to point it out. Why do you bother to make this long drawn out response filled with rehtoric and not evidence shooting down my views ? if not then sit back and learn![]()
I can see your silly arguments clear enough. At least 2 other posters seem to think you don't really seem to grasp the nature of Evolution. If you can't handle the brutal truth about your arguments and the big honking glaring flaws in it, so be it.
You are using stock replies from the typical sources. You think you are the only one to claim:
"No evidence of Macro-evolution"
"Its only a theory"
"It just is designed, OK!"
These are old worn out tropes for Creationism. You are not dazzling anyone with your brilliance by using them.
I am waiting for you to claim that "evolution is an atheist conspiracy and the creation scientists are being excluded from the scientific world unfairly"
That being said, if evolution was so flawed, you would have seen thousands of peer reviewed scientific journal articles to support your theory. EVERY biologist would give their kidneys to be the one to come up with a new theory which they could attach their name to. But you don't. What we have is some self-reflexive articles by people who are not taken seriously by any recognized scientific body.
In fact the he National Center for Science Education decided to compile a list-- one with very, very strict guidelines. Each scientist who signed had to agree that creationism was, in fact, silly and that it should not be taught in schools. They had to be from an area of science where their expertise was actually pertinent and, finally, because this apparently needed to be stipulated, they had to be an actual scientist. Oh, and in order to sign, you had to be named Steve or a variant thereof. As it stands, over 1000 Steves are on the list, including Stephen Hawking.
Explaining the reasoning behind the stunt, the scientific community noted that they could have easily compiled a contradicting list of tens of thousands of signatures. But focusing on scientists not named Steve would have taken too much time, and they had things to do.
You sound like later trader did you change screen names ?
I don't need peer reviews to tell me what i am observing in the many labs i worked. That might impress you,but that does not do much for me. Misinformation is accepted all the time do you think peer reviews can't be wrong ?
So you think the science community can't be wrong ?
Well i have been in that community for many years, you're in denial if you deny that there are not ideologues from both sides in the science community. It does effect their presuppositions.
Well you come in to a conversation lobbing insults from the start, how should you be received ?
You definately remind me of later trader. If what i say can't be supported by the evidence then feel free to point it out. Why do you bother to make this long drawn out response filled with rehtoric and not evidence shooting down my views ? if not then sit back and learn![]()
And right on cue you used the trite "scientific community is preventing this from being heard" argument.
Actually I just got here this week after the History Channel boards announced they were closing down. This is a topic which was not uncommon in their religion section.
So your defense is that the scientific community can be wrong so you have to take me seriously. It doesn't work that way. You saying that you worked in labs and whatnot doesn't mean squat online. Nobody has to take that seriously. You can't attack the method of proof for the entire scientific community and then try claim your proof is somehow scientifically provable.
Peer reviewed journals are the bullcrap detectors in science. When scientific evidence is presented to laypeople in an objective setting, a journal article is taken on its own merits when something else would not. Its why its considered an element to introducing scientific evidence in a courtroom.
There is no reason to take any assertion you make concerning scientific research seriously. What you say, isn't supported by evidence.
Since evolution is the accepted scientific notion, you have the burden to prove an alternative. I don't have to disprove you. You have to prove your own point. Shifting burdens of proof is a common tactic of people with unsupportable fringe belief.
The idea that there must be some kind of ideological divide keeping out Creationism doesn't wash. There is too much to gain to be the scientist who can disprove evolution in a reliable fashion.
"Why do you bother to make this long drawn out response filled with rehtoric and not evidence shooting down my views ? i"
Because you are the one who has to produce the evidence. Attacks on evolution theory is not support of Creationism. Its a logical fallacy of the false dichotomy. You have to produce positive evidence for Creationism to support its existence.
You are just annoyed because I am not letting some of your unfounded assumptions used in your arguments go through at face value.
You sound like later trader did you change screen names ?
I don't need peer reviews to tell me what i am observing in the many labs i worked. That might impress you,but that does not do much for me. Misinformation is accepted all the time do you think peer reviews can't be wrong ?
So you think the science community can't be wrong ?
Well i have been in that community for many years, you're in denial if you deny that there are not ideologues from both sides in the science community. It does effect their presuppositions.
Well you come in to a conversation lobbing insults from the start, how should you be received ?
You definately remind me of later trader. If what i say can't be supported by the evidence then feel free to point it out. Why do you bother to make this long drawn out response filled with rehtoric and not evidence shooting down my views ? if not then sit back and learn![]()
And right on cue you used the trite "scientific community is preventing this from being heard" argument.
Actually I just got here this week after the History Channel boards announced they were closing down. This is a topic which was not uncommon in their religion section.
So your defense is that the scientific community can be wrong so you have to take me seriously. It doesn't work that way. You saying that you worked in labs and whatnot doesn't mean squat online. Nobody has to take that seriously. You can't attack the method of proof for the entire scientific community and then try claim your proof is somehow scientifically provable.
Peer reviewed journals are the bullcrap detectors in science. When scientific evidence is presented to laypeople in an objective setting, a journal article is taken on its own merits when something else would not. Its why its considered an element to introducing scientific evidence in a courtroom.
There is no reason to take any assertion you make concerning scientific research seriously. What you say, isn't supported by evidence.
Since evolution is the accepted scientific notion, you have the burden to prove an alternative. I don't have to disprove you. You have to prove your own point. Shifting burdens of proof is a common tactic of people with unsupportable fringe belief.
The idea that there must be some kind of ideological divide keeping out Creationism doesn't wash. There is too much to gain to be the scientist who can disprove evolution in a reliable fashion.
"Why do you bother to make this long drawn out response filled with rehtoric and not evidence shooting down my views ? i"
Because you are the one who has to produce the evidence. Attacks on evolution theory is not support of Creationism. Its a logical fallacy of the false dichotomy. You have to produce positive evidence for Creationism to support its existence.
You are just annoyed because I am not letting some of your unfounded assumptions used in your arguments go through at face value.
I did,but you might want to read the whole thread.
But this is what i am asking of evolutionists that i have had no one offer evidence for and or a rebuttal.
This is from Perry Marshall.
The starting point of this discussion is my central thesis, which is:
1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.
2) All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.
3) Therefore DNA was designed by a mind.
If you can provide an empirical example of a code or language that
occurs naturally, youve toppled my proof. All you need is one.
Perry Marshall
That is a faulty assumption by evolutionist.
I disagree, and it certainly isn't based on "assumption" but we'll leave that be. If you think the biological classification of families of species are ridiculous, why did you take them seriously and reference them earlier in the thread when you said new species could come about within families?
And right on cue you used the trite "scientific community is preventing this from being heard" argument.
Actually I just got here this week after the History Channel boards announced they were closing down. This is a topic which was not uncommon in their religion section.
So your defense is that the scientific community can be wrong so you have to take me seriously. It doesn't work that way. You saying that you worked in labs and whatnot doesn't mean squat online. Nobody has to take that seriously. You can't attack the method of proof for the entire scientific community and then try claim your proof is somehow scientifically provable.
Peer reviewed journals are the bullcrap detectors in science. When scientific evidence is presented to laypeople in an objective setting, a journal article is taken on its own merits when something else would not. Its why its considered an element to introducing scientific evidence in a courtroom.
There is no reason to take any assertion you make concerning scientific research seriously. What you say, isn't supported by evidence.
Since evolution is the accepted scientific notion, you have the burden to prove an alternative. I don't have to disprove you. You have to prove your own point. Shifting burdens of proof is a common tactic of people with unsupportable fringe belief.
The idea that there must be some kind of ideological divide keeping out Creationism doesn't wash. There is too much to gain to be the scientist who can disprove evolution in a reliable fashion.
"Why do you bother to make this long drawn out response filled with rehtoric and not evidence shooting down my views ? i"
Because you are the one who has to produce the evidence. Attacks on evolution theory is not support of Creationism. Its a logical fallacy of the false dichotomy. You have to produce positive evidence for Creationism to support its existence.
You are just annoyed because I am not letting some of your unfounded assumptions used in your arguments go through at face value.
I did,but you might want to read the whole thread.
But this is what i am asking of evolutionists that i have had no one offer evidence for and or a rebuttal.
This is from Perry Marshall.
The starting point of this discussion is my central thesis, which is:
1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.
2) All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.
3) Therefore DNA was designed by a mind.
If you can provide an empirical example of a code or language that
occurs naturally, youve toppled my proof. All you need is one.
Perry Marshall
This has been answered several times in this thread and the inherent flaws in logic it has have been pointed out to you several times.
And right on cue you used the trite "scientific community is preventing this from being heard" argument.
Actually I just got here this week after the History Channel boards announced they were closing down. This is a topic which was not uncommon in their religion section.
So your defense is that the scientific community can be wrong so you have to take me seriously. It doesn't work that way. You saying that you worked in labs and whatnot doesn't mean squat online. Nobody has to take that seriously. You can't attack the method of proof for the entire scientific community and then try claim your proof is somehow scientifically provable.
Peer reviewed journals are the bullcrap detectors in science. When scientific evidence is presented to laypeople in an objective setting, a journal article is taken on its own merits when something else would not. Its why its considered an element to introducing scientific evidence in a courtroom.
There is no reason to take any assertion you make concerning scientific research seriously. What you say, isn't supported by evidence.
Since evolution is the accepted scientific notion, you have the burden to prove an alternative. I don't have to disprove you. You have to prove your own point. Shifting burdens of proof is a common tactic of people with unsupportable fringe belief.
The idea that there must be some kind of ideological divide keeping out Creationism doesn't wash. There is too much to gain to be the scientist who can disprove evolution in a reliable fashion.
"Why do you bother to make this long drawn out response filled with rehtoric and not evidence shooting down my views ? i"
Because you are the one who has to produce the evidence. Attacks on evolution theory is not support of Creationism. Its a logical fallacy of the false dichotomy. You have to produce positive evidence for Creationism to support its existence.
You are just annoyed because I am not letting some of your unfounded assumptions used in your arguments go through at face value.
I did,but you might want to read the whole thread.
But this is what i am asking of evolutionists that i have had no one offer evidence for and or a rebuttal.
This is from Perry Marshall.
The starting point of this discussion is my central thesis, which is:
1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.
2) All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.
3) Therefore DNA was designed by a mind.
If you can provide an empirical example of a code or language that
occurs naturally, you’ve toppled my proof. All you need is one.
Perry Marshall
This has been answered several times in this thread and the inherent flaws in logic it has have been pointed out to you several times.
Explained in post #44, you replied to it, then it was explained to you again in post #47, to which you again replied.Are you trying to say it's a flawed question ? If so i have to see this explanation.
Explained in post #44, you replied to it, then it was explained to you again in post #47, to which you again replied.Are you trying to say it's a flawed question ? If so i have to see this explanation.
So, you are, or at least were, well aware of the explanation.
I realize you may not like the explanation, but it has been supplied several times to you, twice by me alone.
Explained in post #44, you replied to it, then it was explained to you again in post #47, to which you again replied.Are you trying to say it's a flawed question ? If so i have to see this explanation.
So, you are, or at least were, well aware of the explanation.
I realize you may not like the explanation, but it has been supplied several times to you, twice by me alone.
Thank you for your response. Now i do remember and understad why you were hesitant to copy and paste that answer again
DNA has a code it is a four letter alphabet and i said code or language. The genetic code definition is a form of communication that is also what i asked for.
genetic code (j-ntk)
The sequence of nucleotides in DNA and RNA that serve as instructions for synthesizing proteins. The genetic code is based on an "alphabet" consisting of sixty-four triplets of nucleotides called codons. The order in which codons are strung together determines the order in which the amino acids for which they code are arranged in a protein.
Noun 1. genetic code - the ordering of nucleotides in DNA molecules that carries the genetic information in living cells
Science iiterature is heavy in my favor that the genetic code is a form of communication.
Now tell me of any form of communication that came to be naturally,abent of intelligence ?
Explained in post #44, you replied to it, then it was explained to you again in post #47, to which you again replied.
So, you are, or at least were, well aware of the explanation.
I realize you may not like the explanation, but it has been supplied several times to you, twice by me alone.
Thank you for your response. Now i do remember and understad why you were hesitant to copy and paste that answer again
DNA has a code it is a four letter alphabet and i said code or language. The genetic code definition is a form of communication that is also what i asked for.
genetic code (j-ntk)
The sequence of nucleotides in DNA and RNA that serve as instructions for synthesizing proteins. The genetic code is based on an "alphabet" consisting of sixty-four triplets of nucleotides called codons. The order in which codons are strung together determines the order in which the amino acids for which they code are arranged in a protein.
Noun 1. genetic code - the ordering of nucleotides in DNA molecules that carries the genetic information in living cells
Science iiterature is heavy in my favor that the genetic code is a form of communication.
Now tell me of any form of communication that came to be naturally,abent of intelligence ?
The genetic code comes about by a series of biochemical reactions in an organism.
And, you have been told this before, several times, as well.
Explained in post #44, you replied to it, then it was explained to you again in post #47, to which you again replied.
So, you are, or at least were, well aware of the explanation.
I realize you may not like the explanation, but it has been supplied several times to you, twice by me alone.
Thank you for your response. Now i do remember and understad why you were hesitant to copy and paste that answer again
DNA has a code it is a four letter alphabet and i said code or language. The genetic code definition is a form of communication that is also what i asked for.
genetic code (j-ntk)
The sequence of nucleotides in DNA and RNA that serve as instructions for synthesizing proteins. The genetic code is based on an "alphabet" consisting of sixty-four triplets of nucleotides called codons. The order in which codons are strung together determines the order in which the amino acids for which they code are arranged in a protein.
Noun 1. genetic code - the ordering of nucleotides in DNA molecules that carries the genetic information in living cells
Science iiterature is heavy in my favor that the genetic code is a form of communication.
Now tell me of any form of communication that came to be naturally,abent of intelligence ?
The genetic code comes about by a series of biochemical reactions in an organism.
And, you have been told this before, several times, as well.
What is unclear to you, exactly? Nucleic acids are formed through a series of biochemical reactions in an organism.Thank you for your response. Now i do remember and understad why you were hesitant to copy and paste that answer again
DNA has a code it is a four letter alphabet and i said code or language. The genetic code definition is a form of communication that is also what i asked for.
genetic code (j-ntk)
The sequence of nucleotides in DNA and RNA that serve as instructions for synthesizing proteins. The genetic code is based on an "alphabet" consisting of sixty-four triplets of nucleotides called codons. The order in which codons are strung together determines the order in which the amino acids for which they code are arranged in a protein.
Noun 1. genetic code - the ordering of nucleotides in DNA molecules that carries the genetic information in living cells
Science iiterature is heavy in my favor that the genetic code is a form of communication.
Now tell me of any form of communication that came to be naturally,abent of intelligence ?
The genetic code comes about by a series of biochemical reactions in an organism.
And, you have been told this before, several times, as well.
If it is not information that comes from a code ,why do they call it a code ?
Why was it claimed they unlocked the Genetic code ?
If our DNA is not a code of information how can a criminologist decide who committed a crime through our DNA ?
It would be easier for you to admit that you gave a bad example of what i asked but if you insist i have a lot more information available from the science community that supports what i am saying.
What is unclear to you, exactly? Nucleic acids are formed through a series of biochemical reactions in an organism.The genetic code comes about by a series of biochemical reactions in an organism.
And, you have been told this before, several times, as well.
If it is not information that comes from a code ,why do they call it a code ?
Why was it claimed they unlocked the Genetic code ?
If our DNA is not a code of information how can a criminologist decide who committed a crime through our DNA ?
It would be easier for you to admit that you gave a bad example of what i asked but if you insist i have a lot more information available from the science community that supports what i am saying.
If you are saying only God can do that, then I am God. I've done it, too.