2aguy
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The story of a gun criminal who prosecutors and judges and the strictest gun laws in the country just couldn't keep from getting guns......of course they do a great job of keeping law abiding citizens who don't use guns to commit murder from getting a gun...
When Guns Were Outlawed, This Guy Somehow Got a Gun | WeaponsMan
Well, depends on what you call, “common sense gun laws.” Then, like now, New York City, where this happened (Flatbush is a section of Brooklyn), had gun laws every bit as prohibitive as those of Japan. There were no pistol permits available, except to the politically connected, like newspaper publishers and organized crime figures. All guns are supposed to be registered and all owners licensed, and no other jurisdiction’s license — not even from Long Island or Westchester County, or anywhere else in the Empire State — is valid in New York. You can’t buy ammunition from the FFLs that don’t exist without the pistol permit you can’t get, listing a pistol in the specific caliber. In other words, even before the election of Bloomberg (or Guiliani for that matter), New York, a much higher crime place than average in America, was Bloomberg’s model of crime fighting.
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So he finally was convicted on his third trial this year, and is scheduled to be sentenced to 18 years to life.
Incidentally, he had guns when arrested in Alabama. And he was already a prohibited person and an ex-con when he murdered Smith. An earlier Daily News article:
Lloyd’s tale of crime and punishment, which unfolded over half his life, began in the early 1980s when he was convicted of killing a man.
He spent seven quiet years in prison, becoming a Muslim and causing no trouble. Friends and family thought he had turned over a new leaf.
But Lloyd turned from Dr. Jekyll into Mr. Hyde again just a month after his release in 1990.
Why was a 1983 murderer gunned-up in Flatbush in 1990? Why was the revolving door invented in New York City? And that same story has a detail about Smith’s murder that was missing from the more bloodless recent stories:
At a New Year’s Eve party in East Flatbush, Lloyd became enraged by a drunk who tried to crash the affair and argued with his sister.
Lloyd looked for the man, belligerently asking questions of others at the party. When William Smith, 22, tried to calm him down, Lloyd turned his anger on him.
Investigators said Lloyd pulled a gun, pistol-whipped Smith, then shot him point blank in the face.
Witnesses said he then nonchalantly went back into the party, got his coat and disappeared – until now.
When Guns Were Outlawed, This Guy Somehow Got a Gun | WeaponsMan
Well, depends on what you call, “common sense gun laws.” Then, like now, New York City, where this happened (Flatbush is a section of Brooklyn), had gun laws every bit as prohibitive as those of Japan. There were no pistol permits available, except to the politically connected, like newspaper publishers and organized crime figures. All guns are supposed to be registered and all owners licensed, and no other jurisdiction’s license — not even from Long Island or Westchester County, or anywhere else in the Empire State — is valid in New York. You can’t buy ammunition from the FFLs that don’t exist without the pistol permit you can’t get, listing a pistol in the specific caliber. In other words, even before the election of Bloomberg (or Guiliani for that matter), New York, a much higher crime place than average in America, was Bloomberg’s model of crime fighting.
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So he finally was convicted on his third trial this year, and is scheduled to be sentenced to 18 years to life.
Incidentally, he had guns when arrested in Alabama. And he was already a prohibited person and an ex-con when he murdered Smith. An earlier Daily News article:
Lloyd’s tale of crime and punishment, which unfolded over half his life, began in the early 1980s when he was convicted of killing a man.
He spent seven quiet years in prison, becoming a Muslim and causing no trouble. Friends and family thought he had turned over a new leaf.
But Lloyd turned from Dr. Jekyll into Mr. Hyde again just a month after his release in 1990.
Why was a 1983 murderer gunned-up in Flatbush in 1990? Why was the revolving door invented in New York City? And that same story has a detail about Smith’s murder that was missing from the more bloodless recent stories:
At a New Year’s Eve party in East Flatbush, Lloyd became enraged by a drunk who tried to crash the affair and argued with his sister.
Lloyd looked for the man, belligerently asking questions of others at the party. When William Smith, 22, tried to calm him down, Lloyd turned his anger on him.
Investigators said Lloyd pulled a gun, pistol-whipped Smith, then shot him point blank in the face.
Witnesses said he then nonchalantly went back into the party, got his coat and disappeared – until now.
