New Zealand: First They Took Their Guns.....Now They're Removing Jesus From Their Lives

[Rustic]

Yep....typical liberal.....can't win an argument so you scream "RACIST".
Which is ironic since my wife is half Native-American and so is my brothers and sisters.

As though the name Pocahontas was not used to deride. What did your wife and siblings think about its use?

You have no clue on what real racism is… Obviously

 

[idb]

So, when the nation observed the Muslim Call to Prayer, was there multiple references to the many other religions in New Zealand?

It was at a Muslim religious service. You're demented in your self victimisation.

From the op, you hypocrite.



"One week after a white supremacist gunman opened fire inside two mosques, killing 50 people, the entire country observed a Muslim call to prayer. The event was televised nationwide. "


Like I said, liberal tolerance. Islam gets celebrated, while Christianity is purged.

I believe you engage in misinformation (and lies, really) when you say "liberals slam christians"

Many liberals (the majority?) are christians, themselves. They just happen to be more LIBERAL christians. It would be more accurate and honest to say liberals slam CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS.

The thing is....
when you slam liberals who consider themselves CHRISTIANS you, yourself, are "slamming christians"......just not CONSERVATIVE christians.


You do understand that NOT ALL CHRISTIANS are fundies?
do you?

or not?

When I slam liberals for what they say or do, I am not slamming "christians" in that I am not slamming them for BEING christians.


When the New Zealand government purges Christianity from the public prayer, as it did, it is denying the heritage and faith of New Zealand Christians BECAUSE they are Christians.


if they were Muslims, their faith was and is, and will be publicly celebrated.


Different rules for different folks.


It is called religious discrimination.

Has the new prayer removed 'Jesus' and replaced it with 'Allah' or something?
Perhaps you're upset because the prayer no longer discriminates in favour of your faith.

 

[Rustic]

The onus was not because the women is question was Indian, but because she was a fraud, because she was NOT Indian.

You avoided saying what your wife and siblings thought about 'Pocahontas' being used to deride.

1. You are confusing me with someone else.

2. And you are dodging the point. Cowardly.

My apologies.

The point is Indian names are used to deride in the US. It is quite plain to see.

Lol
Your political correctness makes you sound like a fucking moron

 

[Rustic]

You read cnm's racist post. Do you have anything to say about his overt racism?

I love the way the snowflake self victimisation never ends.
Anyway...

"In official documents, the governor of Florida said, 'We don't know what to do with these crackers — we tell them to settle this area and they don't; we tell them not to settle this area and they do," Ste. Claire said. "They lived off the land. They were rogues."

By the early 1800s, those immigrants to the South started to refer to themselves that way as a badge of honor and a term of endearment. (I'm pretty sure this process of reappropriating a disparaging term sounds familiar to a lot of y'all.)
The Secret History Of The Word 'Cracker'​

Being a snowflake has one requirement, you have to be a progressive

 

[cnm]

Still, the point is the Speaker has the authority to manage Parliament's proceedings and he has done so. I approve. Better would be if he removed all mention of god. God has no vote.

 

[idb]

Still, the point is the Speaker has the authority to manage Parliament's proceedings and he has done so. I approve. Better would be if he removed all mention of god. God has no vote.

I don't mind if they mention God if it makes people feel better.
It doesn't affect me.
I must be tolerant I suppose.

 

[Correll]

So, when the nation observed the Muslim Call to Prayer, was there multiple references to the many other religions in New Zealand?

It was at a Muslim religious service. You're demented in your self victimisation.

From the op, you hypocrite.



"One week after a white supremacist gunman opened fire inside two mosques, killing 50 people, the entire country observed a Muslim call to prayer. The event was televised nationwide. "


Like I said, liberal tolerance. Islam gets celebrated, while Christianity is purged.

I believe you engage in misinformation (and lies, really) when you say "liberals slam christians"

Many liberals (the majority?) are christians, themselves. They just happen to be more LIBERAL christians. It would be more accurate and honest to say liberals slam CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS.

The thing is....
when you slam liberals who consider themselves CHRISTIANS you, yourself, are "slamming christians"......just not CONSERVATIVE christians.


You do understand that NOT ALL CHRISTIANS are fundies?
do you?

or not?

When I slam liberals for what they say or do, I am not slamming "christians" in that I am not slamming them for BEING christians.


When the New Zealand government purges Christianity from the public prayer, as it did, it is denying the heritage and faith of New Zealand Christians BECAUSE they are Christians.


if they were Muslims, their faith was and is, and will be publicly celebrated.


Different rules for different folks.


It is called religious discrimination.

Has the new prayer removed 'Jesus' and replaced it with 'Allah' or something?
Perhaps you're upset because the prayer no longer discriminates in favour of your faith.

Note the double standard.


Islam is observed nation wide, and that is fine.


Meanwhile any reference to Christianity is considered discrimination against everyone else.

 

[whoisit]

You read cnm's racist post. Do you have anything to say about his overt racism?

I love the way the snowflake self victimisation never ends.
Anyway...

"In official documents, the governor of Florida said, 'We don't know what to do with these crackers — we tell them to settle this area and they don't; we tell them not to settle this area and they do," Ste. Claire said. "They lived off the land. They were rogues."

By the early 1800s, those immigrants to the South started to refer to themselves that way as a badge of honor and a term of endearment. (I'm pretty sure this process of reappropriating a disparaging term sounds familiar to a lot of y'all.)
The Secret History Of The Word 'Cracker'​

I always heard the word came from Florida cattlemen cracking whips herding their cows?

 

[Correll]

Still, the point is the Speaker has the authority to manage Parliament's proceedings and he has done so. I approve. Better would be if he removed all mention of god. God has no vote.

But Christians do. And they have the right to publicly celebrate their faith and heritage.


Why are you offended by that? Why do you oppose that?

 

[skye]

Socialist, Globlalist New Zealand Prime Minister,

Every day I grow more satisfied I cast a vote for her party candidate in my electorate and a vote for her party with my party vote. Jacinda has impressed me with her leadership.

That's your problem, that you are impressed with Jacinda the Socialist traitor, who is selling land in New Zealand, to other globalists, totalitarians like her, like there is no tomorrow!

It says a lot about you. Shame!

 

[skye]

Yup......it's started.

New Zealand Christians Outraged as Govt Removes All References to Jesus From Parliamentary Prayer
03-30-2019
Steve Warren



Just barely two weeks following the mosque shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand, the government has decided to remove all references to Jesus Christ from its parliamentary prayer.

The move by Speaker of the House Trevor Mallard has angered the country's Christian population. Mallard made the decision in order to drop references to Jesus in order to make the prayer "more inclusive" for all parliamentarians.

The Guardian reports a reference to "Almighty God" remains, but it is not a specific reference to a Christian God.

Earlier this week, around 1,000 people protested just outside of the parliament building in Wellington. The group wanted Jesus name reinstated in the prayer because Christianity is part of the nation's history.

Ross Smith, the organizer of the event, told Radio NZ the country has a Christian heritage that should not be erased.

"It's a legacy. The principals and the values that are in this nation are based on our Christian-Judea roots. Removing the name would destroy those roots," he said.

"He needs a good kick in his pants, and he needs to actually be removed because this is a Christian nation," protester Rieki Teutscher told Radio NZ. We don't share his atheism."

Another demonstrator, Carmel Morgan, said Mallard should have consulted with New Zealanders or announced a referendum before changing the prayer.

"This is a land of democracy, this is a land of freedom, you know, we want to be a first world country... he took that choice away from us."

Other New Zealand politicians also voiced their concern over the change made by the speaker without consulting the entire parliament.

Well, the decision as to what should be changed should be made by parliamentarians and not the speaker – that's our position, I don't mind telling you publicly," deputy prime minister Winston Peters told RadioNZ.

"If you're going to make a change let's have parliament decide – not one person," Peters added.

Mallard said he had consulted other politicians and the majority he spoke to were in favor of a secular prayer.

One week after a white supremacist gunman opened fire inside two mosques, killing 50 people, the entire country observed a Muslim call to prayer. The event was televised nationwide. New Zealand Christians Outraged as Govt Removes All References to Jesus From Parliamentary Prayer​

Sadly, I am not surprised Jesus is being removed from their lives. There is a Socialist in power in NZ.

That's where the rats will jump ship when the times comes....the elites, Silicon Valley all the scum of the Earth really, and all thanks to Jacinta Ardern , she is a traitor to all New Zealander Patriots! I hope her day will come.



Socialist, Globlalist New Zealand Prime Minister, a very good friend with the rats, rats like John Podesta, who was there a couple of weeks ago just before the shooting....... also very good friend with this rat below, just to name a few.

Why is it that Hillary is always doing selfies with all of these Socialist assholes????

Because assholes of the same feather go together.

 

[idb]

It was at a Muslim religious service. You're demented in your self victimisation.

From the op, you hypocrite.



"One week after a white supremacist gunman opened fire inside two mosques, killing 50 people, the entire country observed a Muslim call to prayer. The event was televised nationwide. "


Like I said, liberal tolerance. Islam gets celebrated, while Christianity is purged.

I believe you engage in misinformation (and lies, really) when you say "liberals slam christians"

Many liberals (the majority?) are christians, themselves. They just happen to be more LIBERAL christians. It would be more accurate and honest to say liberals slam CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS.

The thing is....
when you slam liberals who consider themselves CHRISTIANS you, yourself, are "slamming christians"......just not CONSERVATIVE christians.


You do understand that NOT ALL CHRISTIANS are fundies?
do you?

or not?

When I slam liberals for what they say or do, I am not slamming "christians" in that I am not slamming them for BEING christians.


When the New Zealand government purges Christianity from the public prayer, as it did, it is denying the heritage and faith of New Zealand Christians BECAUSE they are Christians.


if they were Muslims, their faith was and is, and will be publicly celebrated.


Different rules for different folks.


It is called religious discrimination.

Has the new prayer removed 'Jesus' and replaced it with 'Allah' or something?
Perhaps you're upset because the prayer no longer discriminates in favour of your faith.

Note the double standard.


Islam is observed nation wide, and that is fine.


Meanwhile any reference to Christianity is considered discrimination against everyone else.

I'd be interested in your best evidence of Christianity being discriminated against in favour of Islam in NZ.
Removing Jesus from the parliamentary prayer doesn't count because it hasn't been replaced with any Islamic reference.

 

[idb]

Still, the point is the Speaker has the authority to manage Parliament's proceedings and he has done so. I approve. Better would be if he removed all mention of god. God has no vote.

But Christians do. And they have the right to publicly celebrate their faith and heritage.


Why are you offended by that? Why do you oppose that?

You realise that they still have that right...don't you?

 

[Correll]

From the op, you hypocrite.



"One week after a white supremacist gunman opened fire inside two mosques, killing 50 people, the entire country observed a Muslim call to prayer. The event was televised nationwide. "


Like I said, liberal tolerance. Islam gets celebrated, while Christianity is purged.

I believe you engage in misinformation (and lies, really) when you say "liberals slam christians"

Many liberals (the majority?) are christians, themselves. They just happen to be more LIBERAL christians. It would be more accurate and honest to say liberals slam CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS.

The thing is....
when you slam liberals who consider themselves CHRISTIANS you, yourself, are "slamming christians"......just not CONSERVATIVE christians.


You do understand that NOT ALL CHRISTIANS are fundies?
do you?

or not?

When I slam liberals for what they say or do, I am not slamming "christians" in that I am not slamming them for BEING christians.


When the New Zealand government purges Christianity from the public prayer, as it did, it is denying the heritage and faith of New Zealand Christians BECAUSE they are Christians.


if they were Muslims, their faith was and is, and will be publicly celebrated.


Different rules for different folks.


It is called religious discrimination.

Has the new prayer removed 'Jesus' and replaced it with 'Allah' or something?
Perhaps you're upset because the prayer no longer discriminates in favour of your faith.

Note the double standard.


Islam is observed nation wide, and that is fine.


Meanwhile any reference to Christianity is considered discrimination against everyone else.

I'd be interested in your best evidence of Christianity being discriminated against in favour of Islam in NZ.
Removing Jesus from the parliamentary prayer doesn't count because it hasn't been replaced with any Islamic reference.

Purging Christian references while celebrating Islam, is religious discrimination.

 

[Correll]

Still, the point is the Speaker has the authority to manage Parliament's proceedings and he has done so. I approve. Better would be if he removed all mention of god. God has no vote.

But Christians do. And they have the right to publicly celebrate their faith and heritage.


Why are you offended by that? Why do you oppose that?

You realise that they still have that right...don't you?

Is the purging of any Christian references from the public prayer per the OP, a singular event, that will never be repeated or built upon?

 

[Pilot1]

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Joe certainly is a touchy-feely kind guy. Too many pictures of him doing just what was described for him to deny it.

From the op, you hypocrite.



"One week after a white supremacist gunman opened fire inside two mosques, killing 50 people, the entire country observed a Muslim call to prayer. The event was televised nationwide. "


Like I said, liberal tolerance. Islam gets celebrated, while Christianity is purged.

I believe you engage in misinformation (and lies, really) when you say "liberals slam christians"

Many liberals (the majority?) are christians, themselves. They just happen to be more LIBERAL christians. It would be more accurate and honest to say liberals slam CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS.

The thing is....
when you slam liberals who consider themselves CHRISTIANS you, yourself, are "slamming christians"......just not CONSERVATIVE christians.


You do understand that NOT ALL CHRISTIANS are fundies?
do you?

or not?

When I slam liberals for what they say or do, I am not slamming "christians" in that I am not slamming them for BEING christians.


When the New Zealand government purges Christianity from the public prayer, as it did, it is denying the heritage and faith of New Zealand Christians BECAUSE they are Christians.


if they were Muslims, their faith was and is, and will be publicly celebrated.


Different rules for different folks.


It is called religious discrimination.

Has the new prayer removed 'Jesus' and replaced it with 'Allah' or something?
Perhaps you're upset because the prayer no longer discriminates in favour of your faith.

Note the double standard.


Islam is observed nation wide, and that is fine.


Meanwhile any reference to Christianity is considered discrimination against everyone else.

I'd be interested in your best evidence of Christianity being discriminated against in favour of Islam in NZ.
Removing Jesus from the parliamentary prayer doesn't count because it hasn't been replaced with any Islamic reference.

Whys all of a sudden is Jesus offensive in NZ?

 

[Correll]

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Joe certainly is a touchy-feely kind guy. Too many pictures of him doing just what was described for him to deny it.

I believe you engage in misinformation (and lies, really) when you say "liberals slam christians"

Many liberals (the majority?) are christians, themselves. They just happen to be more LIBERAL christians. It would be more accurate and honest to say liberals slam CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS.

The thing is....
when you slam liberals who consider themselves CHRISTIANS you, yourself, are "slamming christians"......just not CONSERVATIVE christians.


You do understand that NOT ALL CHRISTIANS are fundies?
do you?

or not?

When I slam liberals for what they say or do, I am not slamming "christians" in that I am not slamming them for BEING christians.


When the New Zealand government purges Christianity from the public prayer, as it did, it is denying the heritage and faith of New Zealand Christians BECAUSE they are Christians.


if they were Muslims, their faith was and is, and will be publicly celebrated.


Different rules for different folks.


It is called religious discrimination.

Has the new prayer removed 'Jesus' and replaced it with 'Allah' or something?
Perhaps you're upset because the prayer no longer discriminates in favour of your faith.

Note the double standard.


Islam is observed nation wide, and that is fine.


Meanwhile any reference to Christianity is considered discrimination against everyone else.

I'd be interested in your best evidence of Christianity being discriminated against in favour of Islam in NZ.
Removing Jesus from the parliamentary prayer doesn't count because it hasn't been replaced with any Islamic reference.

Whys all of a sudden is Jesus offensive in NZ?

Liberals. They always find Christianity offensive. But now they have an excuse for their bigotry.

 

[idb]

Still, the point is the Speaker has the authority to manage Parliament's proceedings and he has done so. I approve. Better would be if he removed all mention of god. God has no vote.

But Christians do. And they have the right to publicly celebrate their faith and heritage.


Why are you offended by that? Why do you oppose that?

You realise that they still have that right...don't you?

Is the purging of any Christian references from the public prayer per the OP, a singular event, that will never be repeated or built upon?

I might be mistaken but I'm getting the distinct impression that you think the rights of Christians are being eroded.
Can you please identify where?
They can follow their faith openly and without impediment from the government.
They can wear t-shirts with a picture of Jesus in public, they can wear a cross around their necks, they can gather in buildings dedicated to the express worship of their chosen deity, they can perform ceremonies for noted social events such as weddings, births and deaths in the manner of their choosing...I'm not too sure where you think the oppression comes in.

 

[skye]

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Joe certainly is a touchy-feely kind guy. Too many pictures of him doing just what was described for him to deny it.

I believe you engage in misinformation (and lies, really) when you say "liberals slam christians"

Many liberals (the majority?) are christians, themselves. They just happen to be more LIBERAL christians. It would be more accurate and honest to say liberals slam CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS.

The thing is....
when you slam liberals who consider themselves CHRISTIANS you, yourself, are "slamming christians"......just not CONSERVATIVE christians.


You do understand that NOT ALL CHRISTIANS are fundies?
do you?

or not?

When I slam liberals for what they say or do, I am not slamming "christians" in that I am not slamming them for BEING christians.


When the New Zealand government purges Christianity from the public prayer, as it did, it is denying the heritage and faith of New Zealand Christians BECAUSE they are Christians.


if they were Muslims, their faith was and is, and will be publicly celebrated.


Different rules for different folks.


It is called religious discrimination.

Has the new prayer removed 'Jesus' and replaced it with 'Allah' or something?
Perhaps you're upset because the prayer no longer discriminates in favour of your faith.

Note the double standard.


Islam is observed nation wide, and that is fine.


Meanwhile any reference to Christianity is considered discrimination against everyone else.

I'd be interested in your best evidence of Christianity being discriminated against in favour of Islam in NZ.
Removing Jesus from the parliamentary prayer doesn't count because it hasn't been replaced with any Islamic reference.

Whys all of a sudden is Jesus offensive in NZ?

Because they have a Socialist Globalist piece of garbage as a Prime Minister.

 

[idb]

View attachment 253066

Joe certainly is a touchy-feely kind guy. Too many pictures of him doing just what was described for him to deny it.

I believe you engage in misinformation (and lies, really) when you say "liberals slam christians"

Many liberals (the majority?) are christians, themselves. They just happen to be more LIBERAL christians. It would be more accurate and honest to say liberals slam CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS.

The thing is....
when you slam liberals who consider themselves CHRISTIANS you, yourself, are "slamming christians"......just not CONSERVATIVE christians.


You do understand that NOT ALL CHRISTIANS are fundies?
do you?

or not?

When I slam liberals for what they say or do, I am not slamming "christians" in that I am not slamming them for BEING christians.


When the New Zealand government purges Christianity from the public prayer, as it did, it is denying the heritage and faith of New Zealand Christians BECAUSE they are Christians.


if they were Muslims, their faith was and is, and will be publicly celebrated.


Different rules for different folks.


It is called religious discrimination.

Has the new prayer removed 'Jesus' and replaced it with 'Allah' or something?
Perhaps you're upset because the prayer no longer discriminates in favour of your faith.

Note the double standard.


Islam is observed nation wide, and that is fine.


Meanwhile any reference to Christianity is considered discrimination against everyone else.

I'd be interested in your best evidence of Christianity being discriminated against in favour of Islam in NZ.
Removing Jesus from the parliamentary prayer doesn't count because it hasn't been replaced with any Islamic reference.

Whys all of a sudden is Jesus offensive in NZ?

As far as I know he isn't.
Why do you think otherwise?