next target of the left will be talk radio

[JakeStarkey]

What silly comments you make, Gadawg73.

 

[Gadawg73]

What silly comments you make, Gadawg73.

Silly to the uninformed but all undisputed facts.

 

[edthecynic]

What the Fairness Doctrine did from 1949 to 1987 was require that controversy on the radio be a dialogue (multiple voices). Once it was abolished by the Reaganites was exactly when we got the Lush Rimjob monologue style, where you could just blurt out anything and never have to put up with a challenge to it. The timing of that is significant; our discourse has been hyperpolarized ever since.

It's interesting to see who's afraid of their views being unchallenged. It would be like one of us putting a controversial post up here, and then locking the thread so nobody could comment.

During the postwar years there was a great compression of incomes. The polarized world of the 1920s gave way to a middle class society.

But there was a problem. This middle class society was supported by a large government infrastructure of policies and programs.

That infrastructure was not free. It was paid for by progressive taxation, the burden of which fell upon our wealthiest dynasties, families and individuals.

So what do you think the wealthy did?

They poured money into one of our two political parties until, with Reagan, they captured Washington. Then, they slowly repealed the policies that supported the postwar middle class in hopes of redirecting wealth upward.

And guess what? It worked. Starting in 1980 the U.S. saw massive income growth on top coupled with massive debt on the bottom. This is partly because middle class manufacturing jobs were shipped to Communist China, a place where America's wealthy could get their products made with ultra-cheap labor. As American workers lost solid jobs, they had to borrow more and more to keep pace. Additionally, the Reagan and post Reagan fed changed its focus from full employment (stimulus during downturns) to inflation prevention (austerity).

Listen carefully: As the wealthy consolidated their power over the GOP, a problem arose. How could they win elections if their policies only benefited the few? Answer: ideology. They built a massive ideological machine out of think tanks, publishing groups, television stations, magazines, websites and Talk Radio. Rather than the traditional anti-corporate populism of Teddy Roosevelt, this ideological bullhorn used religion, patriotism and fear to appeal to the poor and the under-educated.

Indeed, they convinced red state America that their beloved country was under siege by liberals, terrorists, gays, illegals, bra burners, hippies, drug addicts, communists, socialists, fascists, grandma killers, 2nd Amendment haters, secularists, atheists, relativists, multiculturalists, etc., etc., muslims, mexicans, gangs, etc., Al Gore, Global Warming, the Clintons, the Clintons, the Clintons.

Indeed, the rightwing voter goes into the voting booth to protect the unborn but comes out with an unregulated derivative market, insurance monopolies and bailouts for offshore corporations.

Now, Pogo . . . I've tried to explain this stuff to folks on the Right, but it doesn't work. Why? Because they have been completely captured by things like Talk Radio. They can't escape it. Limbaugh fits Plato's definition of rhetorician. He appeals to well-meaning people who don't have the intellectual resources or historical literacy to question him.

(The game is over. People don't get it. We had a good run. They won.)

Reagan was elected with middle class Americans fed up with tax and spend Democrats.
Look at the states he won that were traditional Democratic states and the demographics of those voters.

I do not listen to talk radio. Too busy running 3 businesses.

Democratic voters are the ones lacking in intelligence.

Reagan's irresponsible borrow and spend generational theft beats the Democrat's more responsible pay for what you spend with taxes any time and twice on Sunday.

Republican Misinformation Voters are the ones lacking in intelligence and responsibility.

 

[Gadawg73]

Reagan carried the entire blue collar middle class voter in the south in both elections except Georgia the first time because Carter was from here and WV the 2nd.
Before Reagan middle class, blue collar and also many religious voters always voted Democrat.
After 1980 NO Democratic presidential candidate labeled themselves and ran as a "liberal".

 

[Uncensored2008]

OK...Please help an old man here (and I'm being serious - here is your chance to help an old guy that barely has a BA in communication) and explain where this "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" is coming from when the vast amount of media is left wing - by their own admission.

Or, is it you assertion that the networks and the cable media (of course, with the exception of the evil FOX network) and the print media are, in fact, unbiased and fully support open dialogue between parties? I know, I know, you can pull out your "studies" by Doctor this and that, who graduated from Vassar or Columbia

But I want to hear from YOU - not some graphs and charts that purportedly show this and that - heck I can throw charts up here all day as well, to support MY case. I want to actually hear from YOU guys, you know you committed "liberals". I remember my stats class quite well, they can be tested to say ANYTHING the researcher wants.

So come on you guys! School this 68 year old man about media bias. I'm really interested in hearing your opinions ; not from the Huffington Post or Rachel Maddows blog, or from the tingling leg of Chris Matthews, or the "knowedgeable" Tom Brokaw, or any of the comedy of John Stewart, or from Time. Just you. Surely you "high-minded", well educated liberals are capable of critical thought, are you not?

Can you help me out??

Jakematters is a paid Soros hack. He is here to spew MoveOn, Thinkprogress, and Communist Dreams demagoguery.

Like Pogo, he doesn't give a fuck that the left has a 99% hold on the information that gets to the public. The fact that there is ANY alternative to the party line, ANYWHERE, outrages these leftist thugs.

 

[Gadawg73]

During the postwar years there was a great compression of incomes. The polarized world of the 1920s gave way to a middle class society.

But there was a problem. This middle class society was supported by a large government infrastructure of policies and programs.

That infrastructure was not free. It was paid for by progressive taxation, the burden of which fell upon our wealthiest dynasties, families and individuals.

So what do you think the wealthy did?

They poured money into one of our two political parties until, with Reagan, they captured Washington. Then, they slowly repealed the policies that supported the postwar middle class in hopes of redirecting wealth upward.

And guess what? It worked. Starting in 1980 the U.S. saw massive income growth on top coupled with massive debt on the bottom. This is partly because middle class manufacturing jobs were shipped to Communist China, a place where America's wealthy could get their products made with ultra-cheap labor. As American workers lost solid jobs, they had to borrow more and more to keep pace. Additionally, the Reagan and post Reagan fed changed its focus from full employment (stimulus during downturns) to inflation prevention (austerity).

Listen carefully: As the wealthy consolidated their power over the GOP, a problem arose. How could they win elections if their policies only benefited the few? Answer: ideology. They built a massive ideological machine out of think tanks, publishing groups, television stations, magazines, websites and Talk Radio. Rather than the traditional anti-corporate populism of Teddy Roosevelt, this ideological bullhorn used religion, patriotism and fear to appeal to the poor and the under-educated.

Indeed, they convinced red state America that their beloved country was under siege by liberals, terrorists, gays, illegals, bra burners, hippies, drug addicts, communists, socialists, fascists, grandma killers, 2nd Amendment haters, secularists, atheists, relativists, multiculturalists, etc., etc., muslims, mexicans, gangs, etc., Al Gore, Global Warming, the Clintons, the Clintons, the Clintons.

Indeed, the rightwing voter goes into the voting booth to protect the unborn but comes out with an unregulated derivative market, insurance monopolies and bailouts for offshore corporations.

Now, Pogo . . . I've tried to explain this stuff to folks on the Right, but it doesn't work. Why? Because they have been completely captured by things like Talk Radio. They can't escape it. Limbaugh fits Plato's definition of rhetorician. He appeals to well-meaning people who don't have the intellectual resources or historical literacy to question him.

(The game is over. People don't get it. We had a good run. They won.)

Reagan was elected with middle class Americans fed up with tax and spend Democrats.
Look at the states he won that were traditional Democratic states and the demographics of those voters.

I do not listen to talk radio. Too busy running 3 businesses.

Democratic voters are the ones lacking in intelligence.

Reagan's irresponsible borrow and spend generational theft beats the Democrat's more responsible pay for what you spend with taxes any time and twice on Sunday.

Republican Misinformation Voters are the ones lacking in intelligence and responsibility.

Congress was Tip O'Neill and Democrats under Reagan.
The executive has no authority to spend any $$$.
Only Congress can pass and appropriate spending.

 

[JakeStarkey]

What silly comments you make, Gadawg73.

Silly to the uninformed but all undisputed facts.

No. One can have the facts but still make silly and uninformed comments.

 

[edthecynic]

Reagan was elected with middle class Americans fed up with tax and spend Democrats.
Look at the states he won that were traditional Democratic states and the demographics of those voters.

I do not listen to talk radio. Too busy running 3 businesses.

Democratic voters are the ones lacking in intelligence.

Reagan's irresponsible borrow and spend generational theft beats the Democrat's more responsible pay for what you spend with taxes any time and twice on Sunday.

Republican Misinformation Voters are the ones lacking in intelligence and responsibility.

Congress was Tip O'Neill and Democrats under Reagan.
The executive has no authority to spend any $$$.
Only Congress can pass and appropriate spending.

Funny how the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood always say that Republican presidents like Bush and Reagan are nothing but powerless pawns of Congress.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Reagan's irresponsible borrow and spend generational theft beats the Democrat's more responsible pay for what you spend with taxes any time and twice on Sunday.

Republican Misinformation Voters are the ones lacking in intelligence and responsibility.

Congress was Tip O'Neill and Democrats under Reagan.
The executive has no authority to spend any $$$.
Only Congress can pass and appropriate spending.

Funny how the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood always say that Republican presidents like Bush and Reagan are nothing but powerless pawns of Congress.

Will the fascists of the radical right accept that it was a GOP congress that created the economic environment for the Great Recession?

 

[Gadawg73]

Reagan's irresponsible borrow and spend generational theft beats the Democrat's more responsible pay for what you spend with taxes any time and twice on Sunday.

Republican Misinformation Voters are the ones lacking in intelligence and responsibility.

Congress was Tip O'Neill and Democrats under Reagan.
The executive has no authority to spend any $$$.
Only Congress can pass and appropriate spending.

Funny how the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood always say that Republican presidents like Bush and Reagan are nothing but powerless pawns of Congress.

Never said that.
You did.
I am not a Republican Moe. Try again.

 

[bripat9643]

The first cluse you are wrong in your assertions is that you think a right of center guy is "liberal." That means you are automatically committed to crazy far radical reactionary in your thinking.

The first clue that your a delusional moron is your belief that you're "right of center." That's not an accurate description of someone who posts commie propaganda to this forum.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The first cluse you are wrong in your assertions is that you think a right of center guy is "liberal." That means you are automatically committed to crazy far radical reactionary in your thinking.

The first clue that your a delusional moron is your belief that you're "right of center." That's not an accurate description of someone who posts commie propaganda to this forum.

You certainly are the fascist as you continue with the Big Lies.

 

[Gadawg73]

Congress was Tip O'Neill and Democrats under Reagan.
The executive has no authority to spend any $$$.
Only Congress can pass and appropriate spending.

Funny how the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood always say that Republican presidents like Bush and Reagan are nothing but powerless pawns of Congress.

Will the fascists of the radical right accept that it was a GOP congress that created the economic environment for the Great Recession?

With the help of the Democrats as they had the Congress from 2001 until 2009 long after the meltdown.
Every bank legislation bill was either sponsored or co-sponsored by a Democrat.

How come you do not know these "silly" facts Jake?

Will you accept that?

 

[rightwinger]

Rightwing talk radio could not be more effective in helping the Democratic Party if it were scripted by the Democrats

The Rush Limbaughs, Glenn Becks and Sean Hannitys of the world pocket millions while they feed a daily dose of hate to the rightwing masses

Meanwhile, Liberals sit back and smirk while they go to the voters with

"This is how Republicans think"

 

[JakeStarkey]

Doesn't work that way, g-dog. The GOP Congress dominated the dems (the few were 'pet' dems), thus the GOP takes complete responsibility for collapsing the economy. Will you accept that?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Most media is owned by big business which, by definition is, right wing.

And yet, Obama was re-elected by a majority of the vote.

THAT is how powerful the right wing radio nutters really are.

BWAHAHAHAHA

So Dudly;

Apple is "right wing?"
Microsoft is is "right wing?"
Oracle is "right wing?"
Google is is "right wing?"
Geico (George Soros) is "right wing?"
Kaiser Permanante (partner to Obama's fascist care) is "right wing?"
Blue Cross is "right wing?"
Government Motors is "right wing?"

If you leftists weren't retarded, you wouldn't be leftists.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Uncensored, business is inherently conservative, as you have pointed out repeatedly for almost two years. And now you don't equate conservative with right wing? So the Koch Brothers are liberal?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Reagan's irresponsible borrow and spend generational theft beats the Democrat's more responsible pay for what you spend with taxes any time and twice on Sunday.

Republican Misinformation Voters are the ones lacking in intelligence and responsibility.

When did the democrats have a pay for what you spend policy, edtheliar?

Your Messiah® borrowed more money in his first 30 days in office than Reagan did in 8 years.

You post some stupid shit, edtheliar.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The first clue that your a delusional moron is your belief that you're "right of center." That's not an accurate description of someone who posts commie propaganda to this forum.

Jakematters doesn't believe he's right of center, he's just convinced that everyone else is so stupid that they will believe his lies.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The first clue that your a delusional moron is your belief that you're "right of center." That's not an accurate description of someone who posts commie propaganda to this forum.

Jakematters doesn't believe he's right of center, he's just convinced that everyone else is so stupid that they will believe his lies.

And another fascist posts his Big Lie.