Next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...

[dblack]

Yep. And what it suggests is that we should stop doing that. Part of the reason "green" alternatives aren't being adopted is because of all governmental support of existing energy producers. If we cut that support, and let the market run its course, we'll find out what "we the people" really want.

NIce that you think we should stop that socialist assistance to the fossil fuel industry. Oddly no one is actually proposing that other than you.

Most Libertarians propose exactly that.

They (and you) however ARE calling everything and anything "Socialist" EXCEPT the government assistance TO those fossil fuel industries

Nope. Not me.

 

[P@triot]

The Green "concept" is a money saver and a job creator.

Bwahahahaha! Holy Jesus are you a lying partisan hack. The failed "green energy" pipe dream has illegally cost taxpayers trillions since the 1970's and has produced nothing. Absolutely nothing. You leftists are such tools. You're fed complete and total bullshit that "green energy" creates jobs and wealth and energy and it does NOTHING of the sort.

 

[P@triot]

The next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...congratulate them for being educated and informed.

Despite the fact that Romania was a country rich in resources, there were shortages everywhere. Food, electricity, water, and just about every one of life's necessities were in short supply.

Only the ignorant parasite class desires totalitarianism.

I Grew Up in a Communist System. Here’s What Americans Don’t Understand About Freedom

 

[danielpalos]

The next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...congratulate them for being educated and informed.

Despite the fact that Romania was a country rich in resources, there were shortages everywhere. Food, electricity, water, and just about every one of life's necessities were in short supply.

Only the ignorant parasite class desires totalitarianism.

I Grew Up in a Communist System. Here’s What Americans Don’t Understand About Freedom

Lousy management with no real understanding of capitalism or capital based metrics?

The Only Reason Socialism fails is Due to a Lack of Morals. Ten simple Commandments from a God is all that is required to make it work.

 

[P@triot]

The Only Reason Socialism fails is Due to a Lack of Morals. Ten simple Commandments from a God is all that is required to make it work.

Bingo! You’re 100% correct. The problem is, the left produces billions of people across the globe who are completely immoral. And nothing will ever change that.

Thus, socialism is doomed to fail before it even begins. Only the immature idealist has even the slightest interest in it. The rational person recognizes that evil exists, always has, and always will.

 

[P@triot]

The next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...congratulate them for being educated and informed.

Despite the fact that Romania was a country rich in resources, there were shortages everywhere. Food, electricity, water, and just about every one of life's necessities were in short supply.

Only the ignorant parasite class desires totalitarianism.

I Grew Up in a Communist System. Here’s What Americans Don’t Understand About Freedom

Lousy management with no real understanding of capitalism or capital based metrics?

Do you even hear yourself before posting? They were a communist nation. They weren’t interested in “capitalism” or “capital-based metrics”.

Every time you try to sound smart, you embarrass yourself.

 

[P@triot]

The next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...congratulate them for being educated and informed.

America has entire communities in distress for the same reasons that Venezuela has fallen apart—political control over economic affairs.

Only the ignorant parasite class embraces policies which end in poverty.

Socialism Has Already Hurt America

 

[danielpalos]

The Only Reason Socialism fails is Due to a Lack of Morals. Ten simple Commandments from a God is all that is required to make it work.

Bingo! You’re 100% correct. The problem is, the left produces billions of people across the globe who are completely immoral. And nothing will ever change that.

Thus, socialism is doomed to fail before it even begins. Only the immature idealist has even the slightest interest in it. The rational person recognizes that evil exists, always has, and always will.

I don't take the right wing seriously if they whine about taxes instead of merely being moral enough to obey Ten simple Commandments from a God to avoid the Expense of the socialism of Government.

 

[danielpalos]

The next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...congratulate them for being educated and informed.

Despite the fact that Romania was a country rich in resources, there were shortages everywhere. Food, electricity, water, and just about every one of life's necessities were in short supply.

Only the ignorant parasite class desires totalitarianism.

I Grew Up in a Communist System. Here’s What Americans Don’t Understand About Freedom

Lousy management with no real understanding of capitalism or capital based metrics?

Do you even hear yourself before posting? They were a communist nation. They weren’t interested in “capitalism” or “capital-based metrics”.

Every time you try to sound smart, you embarrass yourself.

Pareto Optimalities can be discovered, learned and taught with or without a private sector.

 

[P@triot]

The Only Reason Socialism fails is Due to a Lack of Morals. Ten simple Commandments from a God is all that is required to make it work.

Bingo! You’re 100% correct. The problem is, the left produces billions of people across the globe who are completely immoral. And nothing will ever change that.

Thus, socialism is doomed to fail before it even begins. Only the immature idealist has even the slightest interest in it. The rational person recognizes that evil exists, always has, and always will.

I don't take the right wing seriously if they whine about taxes instead of merely being moral enough to obey Ten simple Commandments from a God to avoid the Expense of the socialism of Government.

It’s not the right pushing for the immoral socialism, snowflake. It’s the left. Oops.

 

[P@triot]

Pareto Optimalities can be discovered, learned and taught with or without a private sector.

Uh...no it can’t. Every discovery comes from the private sector. When we started out as cavemen, there was no government. None. And we “discovered” fire, and tools, and more.

You continue to fail every time you post.

 

[Muhammed]

Ask them how well capitalism was doing in 1929.

And in the east, millions were starving to death in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

 

[danielpalos]

The Only Reason Socialism fails is Due to a Lack of Morals. Ten simple Commandments from a God is all that is required to make it work.

Bingo! You’re 100% correct. The problem is, the left produces billions of people across the globe who are completely immoral. And nothing will ever change that.

Thus, socialism is doomed to fail before it even begins. Only the immature idealist has even the slightest interest in it. The rational person recognizes that evil exists, always has, and always will.

I don't take the right wing seriously if they whine about taxes instead of merely being moral enough to obey Ten simple Commandments from a God to avoid the Expense of the socialism of Government.

It’s not the right pushing for the immoral socialism, snowflake. It’s the left. Oops.

the abomination of hypocrisy is worse, Right Wingers.

 

[ding]

Ask them how well capitalism was doing in 1929.
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To the extent that capitalism’s problems – inequality, instability (cycles/crises), etc. – stem in part from its production relationships, reforms focused exclusively on regulating or supplanting markets will not succeed in solving them. For example, Keynesian monetary policies (focused on raising or lowering the quantity of money in circulation and, correspondingly, interest rates) do not touch the employer-employee relationship, however much their variations redistribute wealth, regulate markets, or displace markets in favor of state-administered investment decisions. Likewise, Keynesian fiscal policies (raising or lowering taxes and government spending) do not address the employer-employee relationship.

Keynesian policies also never ended the cyclical instability of capitalism. The New Deal and European social democracy left capitalism in place in both state and private units (enterprises) of production notwithstanding their massive reform agendas and programs. They thereby left capitalist employers facing the incentives and receiving the resources (profits) to evade, weaken and eventually dissolve most of those programs.

It is far better not to distribute wealth unequally in the first place than to re-distribute it after to undo the inequality. For example, FDR proposed in 1944 that the government establish a maximum income alongside a minimum wage; that is one among the various ways inequality could be limited and thereby redistribution avoided. Efforts to redistribute encounter evasions, oppositions, and failures that compound the effects of unequal distribution itself. Social peace and cohesion are the victims of redistribution sooner or later. Reforming markets while leaving the relations/organization of capitalist production unchanged is like redistribution. Just as redistribution schemes fail to solve the problems rooted in distribution, market-focused reforms fail to solve the problems rooted in production.

Since 2008, capitalism has showed us all yet again its deep and unsolved problems of cyclical instability, deepening inequality and the injustices they both entail. Their persistence mirrors that of the capitalist organization of production. To successfully confront and solve the problems of economic cycles, income and wealth inequality, and so on, we need to go beyond the capitalist employer-employee system of production. The democratization of enterprises – transitioning from employer-employee hierarchies to worker cooperatives – is a key way available here and now to realize the change we need.

Worker coops democratically decide the distribution of income (wages, bonuses, benefits, profit shares, etc.) among their members. No small group of owners and the boards of directors they choose would, as in capitalist corporations, make such decisions. Thus, for example, it would be far less likely that a few individuals in a worker coop would earn millions while most others could not afford to send children to college. A democratic worker coop decision on the distribution of enterprise income would be far less unequal than what typifies capitalist enterprises. A socialism for the 21st century could and should include the transition from a capitalist to a worker-coop-based economic system as central to its commitments to less inequality and less social conflict over redistribution.

Capitalism Is Not the “Market System”

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Socialism seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership Socialism has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Socialists dismiss their defeats and ignore their incongruities. They desire big government and use big government to implement their morally relativistic social policies. Socialism is a religion. The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe. They confuse critical theory for critical thinking. Critical thinking is the practice of challenging what one does believe to test its validity. Something they never do.

 

[danielpalos]

Pareto Optimalities can be discovered, learned and taught with or without a private sector.

Uh...no it can’t. Every discovery comes from the private sector. When we started out as cavemen, there was no government. None. And we “discovered” fire, and tools, and more.

You continue to fail every time you post.

It can't come from the private sector if there is no private sector. Public education can be accomplish via socialism.

 

[basquebromance]

Joe Sanberg Dares Trump to Call Him a Socialist

 

[P@triot]

the abomination of hypocrisy is worse, Right Wingers.

Hypocrisy is “worse” than immorality in your mind?

 

[P@triot]

Pareto Optimalities can be discovered, learned and taught with or without a private sector.

Uh...no it can’t. Every discovery comes from the private sector. When we started out as cavemen, there was no government. None. And we “discovered” fire, and tools, and more.

You continue to fail every time you post.

It can't come from the private sector if there is no private sector. Public education can be accomplish via socialism.

Well there is some vintage libtard “logic”. The private sector has created every advancement in the history of mankind, so let’s eliminate the private sector so it can no longer take credit.

 

[karpenter]

Ask them how well capitalism was doing in 1929.

First Socialist Republic

Anytime:

 

[the other mike]

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Socialism seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership Socialism has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Socialists dismiss their defeats and ignore their incongruities. They desire big government and use big government to implement their morally relativistic social policies. Socialism is a religion. The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe. They confuse critical theory for critical thinking. Critical thinking is the practice of challenging what one does believe to test its validity. Something they never do.

Your clueless rambling is noted.