Next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...

[dblack]

Socialism is disgusting and it ends in poverty and misery.

This Group Is Educating Young Americans About the Ills of Socialism

It's so bad it's never an option thanks to Uncle Sam.

And it shouldn't be an option. Socialism is a type of slavery, and we should never tolerate it.

 

[danielpalos]

Socialism is disgusting and it ends in poverty and misery.

This Group Is Educating Young Americans About the Ills of Socialism

It's so bad it's never an option thanks to Uncle Sam.

And it shouldn't be an option. Socialism is a type of slavery, and we should never tolerate it.

Government is socialism and we are better off with it than without it.

 

[dblack]

Socialism is disgusting and it ends in poverty and misery.

This Group Is Educating Young Americans About the Ills of Socialism

It's so bad it's never an option thanks to Uncle Sam.

And it shouldn't be an option. Socialism is a type of slavery, and we should never tolerate it.

Government is socialism and we are better off with it than without it.

Piss off, troll.

 

[the other mike]

Government is socialism and we are better off with it than without it.

Privileged people don't get it.
They see themselves above everyone else running around
stepping on our socialist ant mounds as they pop up.

 

[danielpalos]

Socialism is disgusting and it ends in poverty and misery.

This Group Is Educating Young Americans About the Ills of Socialism

It's so bad it's never an option thanks to Uncle Sam.

And it shouldn't be an option. Socialism is a type of slavery, and we should never tolerate it.

Government is socialism and we are better off with it than without it.

Piss off, troll.

Piss off yourself, ogre.

 

[danielpalos]

Government is socialism and we are better off with it than without it.

Privileged people don't get it.
They see themselves above everyone else running around
stepping on our socialist ant mounds as they pop up.

The right wing is Always right in right wing fantasy.

Government solves all problems for the right wing but allege to be for capitalism, in the socialism threads.

 

[P@triot]

There isn’t a nation in the Western Hemisphere that hasn’t at one time or another found itself caught in the far-reaching tentacles of US imperialism. Venezuela is certainly no exception.

Bwahahaha! Looks like someone follows Barack Obama on Twitter.

Isn’t it remarkable how the nations that don’t turn to the failed left-wing ideology never seem to get “entangled” in the “far-reaching tentacles” of “US imperialism”?!?

I mean, Israel has managed to avoid the tentacles. Japan has managed to avoid the tentacles. England has managed to avoid the tentacles (although that is clearly changing as we speak). What a remarkable coincidence!

 

[P@triot]

The next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...congratulate them for not being ignorant/uneducated/uninformed about the horrors of socialism.

Venezuela Crisis Pushes Women Into 'Forced Motherhood'

 

[basquebromance]

if it moves, privatize it. if it doesnt move, privatize it.

privatize EVERYTHING!

 

[danielpalos]

The next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...congratulate them for not being ignorant/uneducated/uninformed about the horrors of socialism.

Venezuela Crisis Pushes Women Into 'Forced Motherhood'

nobody takes the right wing seriously about any understanding of political reality.

Washington has imposed sanctions on a number of high-level officials and Venezuelan state entities to ramp up the pressure on Maduro — and ultimately try to oust him as leader of the OPEC country.--Venezuela's Maduro confirms secret high-level talks with US officials

 

[Rustic]

Ask them how well capitalism was doing in 1929.
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To the extent that capitalism’s problems – inequality, instability (cycles/crises), etc. – stem in part from its production relationships, reforms focused exclusively on regulating or supplanting markets will not succeed in solving them. For example, Keynesian monetary policies (focused on raising or lowering the quantity of money in circulation and, correspondingly, interest rates) do not touch the employer-employee relationship, however much their variations redistribute wealth, regulate markets, or displace markets in favor of state-administered investment decisions. Likewise, Keynesian fiscal policies (raising or lowering taxes and government spending) do not address the employer-employee relationship.

Keynesian policies also never ended the cyclical instability of capitalism. The New Deal and European social democracy left capitalism in place in both state and private units (enterprises) of production notwithstanding their massive reform agendas and programs. They thereby left capitalist employers facing the incentives and receiving the resources (profits) to evade, weaken and eventually dissolve most of those programs.

It is far better not to distribute wealth unequally in the first place than to re-distribute it after to undo the inequality. For example, FDR proposed in 1944 that the government establish a maximum income alongside a minimum wage; that is one among the various ways inequality could be limited and thereby redistribution avoided. Efforts to redistribute encounter evasions, oppositions, and failures that compound the effects of unequal distribution itself. Social peace and cohesion are the victims of redistribution sooner or later. Reforming markets while leaving the relations/organization of capitalist production unchanged is like redistribution. Just as redistribution schemes fail to solve the problems rooted in distribution, market-focused reforms fail to solve the problems rooted in production.

Since 2008, capitalism has showed us all yet again its deep and unsolved problems of cyclical instability, deepening inequality and the injustices they both entail. Their persistence mirrors that of the capitalist organization of production. To successfully confront and solve the problems of economic cycles, income and wealth inequality, and so on, we need to go beyond the capitalist employer-employee system of production. The democratization of enterprises – transitioning from employer-employee hierarchies to worker cooperatives – is a key way available here and now to realize the change we need.

Worker coops democratically decide the distribution of income (wages, bonuses, benefits, profit shares, etc.) among their members. No small group of owners and the boards of directors they choose would, as in capitalist corporations, make such decisions. Thus, for example, it would be far less likely that a few individuals in a worker coop would earn millions while most others could not afford to send children to college. A democratic worker coop decision on the distribution of enterprise income would be far less unequal than what typifies capitalist enterprises. A socialism for the 21st century could and should include the transition from a capitalist to a worker-coop-based economic system as central to its commitments to less inequality and less social conflict over redistribution.

Capitalism Is Not the “Market System”

Socialists/progressives need to keep socialism to themselves, Conservatives cannot exist in the shit hole

 

[danielpalos]

leave it to the right wing to be disingenuous about socialism and allege to subscribe to capitalism, in socialism threads.

 

[P@triot]

nobody takes the right wing seriously about any understanding of political reality.

Washington has imposed sanctions on a number of high-level officials and Venezuelan state entities to ramp up the pressure on Maduro — and ultimately try to oust him as leader of the OPEC country.--Venezuela's Maduro confirms secret high-level talks with US officials

Do you have a point here?

 

[P@triot]

leave it to the right wing to be disingenuous about socialism and allege to subscribe to capitalism, in socialism threads.

Leave it to the left-wing to actually believe a thread can be “socialist”.

 

[danielpalos]

nobody takes the right wing seriously about any understanding of political reality.

Washington has imposed sanctions on a number of high-level officials and Venezuelan state entities to ramp up the pressure on Maduro — and ultimately try to oust him as leader of the OPEC country.--Venezuela's Maduro confirms secret high-level talks with US officials

Do you have a point here?

Government solves All problems for the "un-socialist", right wing.

 

[danielpalos]

leave it to the right wing to be disingenuous about socialism and allege to subscribe to capitalism, in socialism threads.

Leave it to the left-wing to actually believe a thread can be “socialist”.

leave it to the right wing to use socialism to disrupt foreign economies but complain about the "horrors" of socialism.

 

[P@triot]

Government solves All problems for the "un-socialist", right wing.

Actually, government has yet to solve a single problem outside of their 18 enumerated powers. Not one. That's because they were not designed to do so.

 

[P@triot]

leave it to the right wing to use socialism to disrupt foreign economies but complain about the "horrors" of socialism.

Ahahahaha! You just admitted that socialism "disrupts economies".

 

[P@triot]

The next time you hear someone criticizing socialism...congratulate them for not being ignorant/uneducated/uninformed about the horrors of socialism.

Ignorance of the Past Fuels Young Americans' Enthusiasm for Socialism

 

[danielpalos]

Government solves All problems for the "un-socialist", right wing.

Actually, government has yet to solve a single problem outside of their 18 enumerated powers. Not one. That's because they were not designed to do so.

yet, the right is trying to use Government to solve all problems.