'No ceasefire until Gaza siege lifted'

[Billo_Really]

hamas has a dispute with the PA and fires on Israel then plays victim when Israel responds

shell game

Hamas settled their dispute with the PA and Israel attacked.

 

[Roudy]

That's non of your fucking business what Israel claims or doesn't claim as self defense from the Islamic terrorist animals that you support. It's not even occupation since the land never actually belonged to Palestinians, it was land Israel gained by defeating (humiliating) the Egyptians and Jordanians. Why don't you go strap on that suicide belt that Hamas sent you as a Ramadung gift and make this world a better place to live.

Conquer by conquest has been outlawed since the end of WWII.

That didn't stop the Arab Muslim savages from attacking the Jewish state with an intent to conquer and commit genocide, since 1948.

 

[Billo_Really]

American support for Israel cuts across political lines. As many Dems support Israel as Repubs with Hillary a consistent anti-BDS voice.

But you're losing the young Jewish support, because of the high price of "Milky".

 

[Billo_Really]

That didn't stop the Arab Muslim savages from attacking the Jewish state with an intent to conquer and commit genocide, since 1948.

They attacked to bring law and order to the area after the British vacated.

 

[Billo_Really]

Land arabs refused as a palestinian state when offered. Land arabs took by war but did no use for a palestinian state when they could have. Land turned over to Israel as peace agreements

Land abandoned by arabs/palestinians for more than 10 yrs, with no registration, taxes or development.

Land they would not claim as part citizens of Israel but expects Israel to drop dead and all land becomes palestinians (PA? Hamas? IJ? ISIS? ?????) There is no unified palestinian representaive of the people and hamas will not allow election they cannot control the outcome of.

What state?????

Where is any agreement with Israel? Where are the negotiations? Where is the cooperation?
Pals just fire on Israel and expect them to fall over and die

Poof, all gone.

But the problem of the palestinians will remains unsolved, because the palestinians have no solution, only scapegoating

The solution is end the occupation and get the fuck off Palestinian land.

 

[Roudy]

That didn't stop the Arab Muslim savages from attacking the Jewish state with an intent to conquer and commit genocide, since 1948.

They attacked to bring law and order to the area after the British vacated.

Nope. They attacked not because of this mythical Palestine, but because the British and the UN had approved a Jewish state. They got their butts kicked, and subsequently for the next 70 years thereafter.

 

[P F Tinmore]

That didn't stop the Arab Muslim savages from attacking the Jewish state with an intent to conquer and commit genocide, since 1948.

They attacked to bring law and order to the area after the British vacated.

Nope. They attacked not because of this mythical Palestine, but because the British and the UN had approved a Jewish state. They got their butts kicked, and subsequently for the next 70 years thereafter.

the British and the UN had approved a Jewish state.​

No they didn't.

Another load of Israeli crap.

 

[Roudy]

That didn't stop the Arab Muslim savages from attacking the Jewish state with an intent to conquer and commit genocide, since 1948.

They attacked to bring law and order to the area after the British vacated.

Nope. They attacked not because of this mythical Palestine, but because the British and the UN had approved a Jewish state. They got their butts kicked, and subsequently for the next 70 years thereafter.

the British and the UN had approved a Jewish state.​

No they didn't.

Another load of Israeli crap.

Of course they did.

 

[P F Tinmore]

That didn't stop the Arab Muslim savages from attacking the Jewish state with an intent to conquer and commit genocide, since 1948.

They attacked to bring law and order to the area after the British vacated.

Nope. They attacked not because of this mythical Palestine, but because the British and the UN had approved a Jewish state. They got their butts kicked, and subsequently for the next 70 years thereafter.

the British and the UN had approved a Jewish state.​

No they didn't.

Another load of Israeli crap.

Of course they did.

You said it.

You prove it.

 

[aris2chat]

What gets forgotten in discussions of land is the difference between 'private', 'state', 'church' and 'public'

Palestinians could have, and some did, pursue their claim on family land, but they have to become citizens of Israel. They can't cut bits and pieces from Israel to create their state. It makes Israel too vulnerable to attack. There are already too many attacks by palestinians against Israel and Israelis.

Land in Israel or under Israeli control is Israeli. When the security of Israel is not being threatened, Israel and the PA can cooperate and Israel gradually withdraws out of zone A & B in the WB.

Israel withdrew from gaza and hamas waged war on the PA/fatah government and won't work with the PA to set up a unity government so they can eventually negotiate an agreement with Israel and begin building a strong state

Firing on Israel is only going to slow the process. Fighting with the PA is only going to slow the process.
threatening Israel will only make Israel need more security and less flexible in negotiations.

How is this so hard for them to understand?

Israel has tried and tried again but some pal faction or another throws a wrench in the works

 

[Hollie]

Land arabs refused as a palestinian state when offered. Land arabs took by war but did no use for a palestinian state when they could have. Land turned over to Israel as peace agreements

Land abandoned by arabs/palestinians for more than 10 yrs, with no registration, taxes or development.

Land they would not claim as part citizens of Israel but expects Israel to drop dead and all land becomes palestinians (PA? Hamas? IJ? ISIS? ?????) There is no unified palestinian representaive of the people and hamas will not allow election they cannot control the outcome of.

What state?????

Where is any agreement with Israel? Where are the negotiations? Where is the cooperation?
Pals just fire on Israel and expect them to fall over and die

Poof, all gone.

But the problem of the palestinians will remains unsolved, because the palestinians have no solution, only scapegoating

The solution is end the occupation and get the fuck off Palestinian land.

What "occupation" would that be?

 

[P F Tinmore]

What gets forgotten in discussions of land is the difference between 'private', 'state', 'church' and 'public'

Palestinians could have, and some did, pursue their claim on family land, but they have to become citizens of Israel. They can't cut bits and pieces from Israel to create their state. It makes Israel too vulnerable to attack. There are already too many attacks by palestinians against Israel and Israelis.

Land in Israel or under Israeli control is Israeli. When the security of Israel is not being threatened, Israel and the PA can cooperate and Israel gradually withdraws out of zone A & B in the WB.

Israel withdrew from gaza and hamas waged war on the PA/fatah government and won't work with the PA to set up a unity government so they can eventually negotiate an agreement with Israel and begin building a strong state

Firing on Israel is only going to slow the process. Fighting with the PA is only going to slow the process.
threatening Israel will only make Israel need more security and less flexible in negotiations.

How is this so hard for them to understand?

Israel has tried and tried again but some pal faction or another throws a wrench in the works

Palestinians could have, and some did, pursue their claim on family land, but they have to become citizens of Israel.​

Not true. (Nothing unusual about that.) Many Palestinian citizens of Israel live a short distance from their land but cannot claim it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

What gets forgotten in discussions of land is the difference between 'private', 'state', 'church' and 'public'

Palestinians could have, and some did, pursue their claim on family land, but they have to become citizens of Israel. They can't cut bits and pieces from Israel to create their state. It makes Israel too vulnerable to attack. There are already too many attacks by palestinians against Israel and Israelis.

Land in Israel or under Israeli control is Israeli. When the security of Israel is not being threatened, Israel and the PA can cooperate and Israel gradually withdraws out of zone A & B in the WB.

Israel withdrew from gaza and hamas waged war on the PA/fatah government and won't work with the PA to set up a unity government so they can eventually negotiate an agreement with Israel and begin building a strong state

Firing on Israel is only going to slow the process. Fighting with the PA is only going to slow the process.
threatening Israel will only make Israel need more security and less flexible in negotiations.

How is this so hard for them to understand?

Israel has tried and tried again but some pal faction or another throws a wrench in the works

Israel withdrew from gaza and hamas waged war on the PA/fatah government...​

Not true. (Again) Hamas was the majority party in the PA. Remember, Fatah lost the elections.

 

[Phoenall]

So, a ceasefire looks possible...

Only IF Israel 'frees' Gaza

No ceasefire until Gaza siege lifted says Hamas official

Then there will be no ceasefire will there. The blockade was put on because of terrorist attacks and will be lifted when the attacks are stopped.

 

[Phoenall]

So, a ceasefire looks possible...

Only IF Israel 'frees' Gaza

No ceasefire until Gaza siege lifted says Hamas official

Then there will be no ceasefire will there. The blockade was put on because of terrorist attacks and will be lifted when the attacks are stopped.

 

[Phoenall]

So, a ceasefire looks possible...

Only IF Israel 'frees' Gaza

No ceasefire until Gaza siege lifted says Hamas official

Sounds fair to me.

Right up until they rockets start to hit Israeli schools, then you will dent that you wanted that all along.

 

[Phoenall]

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Still pushing those bullshit propaganda videos.

More accurate than your islamonazi propaganda videos that show tennis ball sized bullets that can do a 180

 

[Phoenall]

The Hamas Charter has an unfortunate ability to render comments about a ceasefire from Islamic terrorists representing Hamas as pointless.

These temporary Hudnas only provide an opportunity for Hamas to spend their infidel welfare dollars on weapons and ammunition.

The Charter is an outdated document they don't even follow anymore, whore.

Is that why it was invoked only this year by none other than hamas.

 

[Phoenall]

I wasn't aware that you were the authorized Islamo-terrorist to babble on behalf of Hamas.

The Hamas Charter exists and provides the impetus for Islamic terrorism to continue on the part of Hamas and the other Death Cults operating in Gaza'istan, sweetie.

The only terrorism comes from Israel.

Shooting at Palestinian fishermen and farmers, is terrorism.

Not if they are in breach of the rules agreed with hamas it isn't.

 

[Phoenall]

What gets forgotten in discussions of land is the difference between 'private', 'state', 'church' and 'public'

Palestinians could have, and some did, pursue their claim on family land, but they have to become citizens of Israel. They can't cut bits and pieces from Israel to create their state. It makes Israel too vulnerable to attack. There are already too many attacks by palestinians against Israel and Israelis.

Land in Israel or under Israeli control is Israeli. When the security of Israel is not being threatened, Israel and the PA can cooperate and Israel gradually withdraws out of zone A & B in the WB.

Israel withdrew from gaza and hamas waged war on the PA/fatah government and won't work with the PA to set up a unity government so they can eventually negotiate an agreement with Israel and begin building a strong state

Firing on Israel is only going to slow the process. Fighting with the PA is only going to slow the process.
threatening Israel will only make Israel need more security and less flexible in negotiations.

How is this so hard for them to understand?

Israel has tried and tried again but some pal faction or another throws a wrench in the works

Israel withdrew from gaza and hamas waged war on the PA/fatah government...​

Not true. (Again) Hamas was the majority party in the PA. Remember, Fatah lost the elections.

And hamas went on a rampage and mass murdered thousands of fatah members/supporters in gaza