No greater poetic justice than Trump's tariffs--& China's retaliation!

[oreo]

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I looked at the list. The Chinese are the ones who will suffer shortages because of their tariffs. We have other buyers.

Once again you're totally full of shit.

China: An important market for states and districts across the country

• Most states have seen significant increases in exports of goods and services to China since 2006. Thirty states experienced at least triple-digit goods export growth to China since 2006, and four states saw growth of more than 500 percent over the same period: Alabama, Montana, North Dakota, and South Carolina. Every US state had triple-digit services export growth to China since 2006, 16 states had export growth of more than 400 percent.
  
  
• Most congressional districts have seen significant growth in exports of goods or services to China since 2006. 432 out of 435 districts saw triple-digit growth in exports of servcies to China since 2006, and 190 districts saw similar growth in exports of goods.
  
  
• The value of US goods and services exports to China is significant. Last year, 29 states exported more than $1 billion in goods to China, while another 11 states exported more than $500 million. In 2006, only 17 states exported more than $1 billion of goods to China and only one state exported more than $1 billion in services to China – California.

What they don't understand is there is no such thing as a trade deficit. It's simply an on "paper deficit." EVERY sale of an American product overseas is a trade surplus. Trump was constantly after NAFTA. Canada & Mexico are smaller populated countries, and we can't expect them to buy two washers and dryers, and 5 American cars per family. While we all know that China can manipulate their currency to fudge on trade, starting a trade war with them over it is a very--very stupid idea.

 

[flewism]

You nuts do realize that 18% of everything China exports goes to the states and less than 5% of USA exports goes to China, markets will adjust. Half you people are bitching about over farming and raping the land

Could you repost that in non-partisan dialect?

Why?

 

[flewism]

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I looked at the list. The Chinese are the ones who will suffer shortages because of their tariffs. We have other buyers.

Once again you're totally full of shit.

China: An important market for states and districts across the country

• Most states have seen significant increases in exports of goods and services to China since 2006. Thirty states experienced at least triple-digit goods export growth to China since 2006, and four states saw growth of more than 500 percent over the same period: Alabama, Montana, North Dakota, and South Carolina. Every US state had triple-digit services export growth to China since 2006, 16 states had export growth of more than 400 percent.
  
  
• Most congressional districts have seen significant growth in exports of goods or services to China since 2006. 432 out of 435 districts saw triple-digit growth in exports of servcies to China since 2006, and 190 districts saw similar growth in exports of goods.
  
  
• The value of US goods and services exports to China is significant. Last year, 29 states exported more than $1 billion in goods to China, while another 11 states exported more than $500 million. In 2006, only 17 states exported more than $1 billion of goods to China and only one state exported more than $1 billion in services to China – California.

Also in 2006 China exported $278B to the states in 2016 China exported $487 B to the states , an $200 Billion increase or let’s say 4 billion per state.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You nuts do realize that 18% of everything China exports goes to the states and less than 5% of USA exports goes to China, markets will adjust. Half you people are bitching about over farming and raping the land

Could you repost that in non-partisan dialect?

Why?

So that it makes sense, as it is now it is just gibberish

 

[edward37]

You nuts do realize that 18% of everything China exports goes to the states and less than 5% of USA exports goes to China, markets will adjust. Half you people are bitching about over farming and raping the land

Could you repost that in non-partisan dialect?

Why?

So that it makes sense, as it is now it is just gibberish

The AH strikes again
U.S. Stock Futures Tumble as Trump Signals More China Tariffs
By
Matthew Burgess
April 5, 2018, 7:19 PM EDT
U.S. equity futures tumbled in Asian trading after President Donald Trump ordered the U.S. Trade Representative to consider an additional $100 billion in tariffs on Chinese products.



S&P 500 Index futures fell 1.2 percent as of 8:06 a.m. in Tokyo. Futures contracts on the Dow Jones tumbled 1.4 percent and Nasdaq declined over 1 percent.



“In light of China’s unfair retaliation, I have instructed the USTR to consider whether $100 billion of additional tariffs would be appropriate under section 301 and, if so, to identify the products upon which to impose such tariffs,” Trump said in a statement.



Global equity markets have been roiled in recent weeks as investors fear an escalation in the tit-for-tat trade war between the world’s two largest economies will crimp growth. Beijing on Wednesday proposed 25 percent duties on a swath of U.S. agricultural products and other products ranging from aircraft to chemicals in retaliation to Washington’s tariffs on China’s high-tech goods.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

I looked at the list. The Chinese are the ones who will suffer shortages because of their tariffs. We have other buyers.

95 percent of the world's consumers are outside the US. We need the rest of the world more than they need us.

When we compare the two nations, China is dependent upon us and need us more than we do them. China also can’t call our debt, as a certain someone mentioned believes they can use this debt over us, as their economy will suffer for it. So you see, there is really no sustainable win for that communist regime. Also, as I’m sure you haven’t been made aware: How many millions do we ALREADY send them in foreign aid every year, that we BORROW only to turn around and “provide” for them? Shall I give you an accurate quote? We don’t need to increase OUR debt over that country’s slush fund either.

Oh but I’m sure we would all be better off collecting food stamps under President Obama’s rather booming vibrant economy by comparison. (Sorry. However, after reading Oreo’s op message, I was reminded of the last eight years and I just had to laugh).

 

[debbiedowner]

You bedwetters still haven't figured Trump out...have you? He threatens and then he backs off. It's the art of the deal in action. He's been doing it for decades as a businessman and he's doing it now as President. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

seems to me china didn't go along with his bluff ,,,More like F with us we'll slap you down and the moron is backing off

Not to mention China holds about 1.2 trillion dollars in U.S. Treasury Bonds. If trump follow through with the tariffs and the additional ones he proposed today you'll see trumptards blaming obama for their job loss which will certainly happen.

 

[TomParks]

You nuts do realize that 18% of everything China exports goes to the states and less than 5% of USA exports goes to China, markets will adjust. Half you people are bitching about over farming and raping the land

Could you repost that in non-partisan dialect?

Why?

So that it makes sense, as it is now it is just gibberish

The AH strikes again
U.S. Stock Futures Tumble as Trump Signals More China Tariffs
By
Matthew Burgess
April 5, 2018, 7:19 PM EDT
U.S. equity futures tumbled in Asian trading after President Donald Trump ordered the U.S. Trade Representative to consider an additional $100 billion in tariffs on Chinese products.



S&P 500 Index futures fell 1.2 percent as of 8:06 a.m. in Tokyo. Futures contracts on the Dow Jones tumbled 1.4 percent and Nasdaq declined over 1 percent.



“In light of China’s unfair retaliation, I have instructed the USTR to consider whether $100 billion of additional tariffs would be appropriate under section 301 and, if so, to identify the products upon which to impose such tariffs,” Trump said in a statement.



Global equity markets have been roiled in recent weeks as investors fear an escalation in the tit-for-tat trade war between the world’s two largest economies will crimp growth. Beijing on Wednesday proposed 25 percent duties on a swath of U.S. agricultural products and other products ranging from aircraft to chemicals in retaliation to Washington’s tariffs on China’s high-tech goods.

100 billion is not enough

 

[Issa]

I looked at the list. The Chinese are the ones who will suffer shortages because of their tariffs. We have other buyers.

My ass...you already pissed off most of the world. And what happened to fuck the world?
According to you ignorant Africa is a shithole, Europe is communist, Hispanics are rapists and criminals...go sell your soybean now to Israel.

 

[Oldstyle]

You bedwetters still haven't figured Trump out...have you? He threatens and then he backs off. It's the art of the deal in action. He's been doing it for decades as a businessman and he's doing it now as President. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

His threats may backfire with the Chinese, & every other country we trade with when they don't know he's only JOKING dumbass. Do you believe we're the ONLY ones in the world that sell wheat, corn, meat, pork, soybeans & cars? Here is the 103 item list that the Chinese have added to their list. You might want to actually LOOK at it.
Full list of U.S. products that China is planning to hit with tariffs

The Chinese have been playing hardball with us on trade for years now and we've let them get away with it. Trump is simply telling them that's no longer the status quo. The Chinese will do what's good for both them and us in the long run because NOT doing so doesn't make sense for them!

 

[Oldstyle]

You bedwetters still haven't figured Trump out...have you? He threatens and then he backs off. It's the art of the deal in action. He's been doing it for decades as a businessman and he's doing it now as President. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

But he was a shitty businessman and he did not write that book.

You're not a shitty businessman when you build an empire like the one that Trump built. Claiming that he is...is simply stupid on your part...

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I looked at the list. The Chinese are the ones who will suffer shortages because of their tariffs. We have other buyers.

95 percent of the world's consumers are outside the US. We need the rest of the world more than they need us.

All of the worlds US consumers are in the US. China needs to worry about repairing its ailing wall.

All of the worlds US consumers are in the US.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I looked at the list. The Chinese are the ones who will suffer shortages because of their tariffs. We have other buyers.

We do? Who is going to buy the soybeans that China buys?


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The USA grows 108 million metric tons of soybeans and last year china imported 5.82 million metric tons from us. They can't beat us on trade

Sure, dope. What's $50b? It wont hurt at all.

 

[oreo]

You bedwetters still haven't figured Trump out...have you? He threatens and then he backs off. It's the art of the deal in action. He's been doing it for decades as a businessman and he's doing it now as President. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

His threats may backfire with the Chinese, & every other country we trade with when they don't know he's only JOKING dumbass. Do you believe we're the ONLY ones in the world that sell wheat, corn, meat, pork, soybeans & cars? Here is the 103 item list that the Chinese have added to their list. You might want to actually LOOK at it.
Full list of U.S. products that China is planning to hit with tariffs

The Chinese have been playing hardball with us on trade for years now and we've let them get away with it. Trump is simply telling them that's no longer the status quo. The Chinese will do what's good for both them and us in the long run because NOT doing so doesn't make sense for them!

Trade agreements are signed into law by congress & the President. What you do is RENEGOTIATE existing trade agreements with our trading partners not flip out like the Ass Clown he is and threaten them with tariffs. Especially when a country like China owns a lot of American debt.

 

[Oldstyle]

You bedwetters still haven't figured Trump out...have you? He threatens and then he backs off. It's the art of the deal in action. He's been doing it for decades as a businessman and he's doing it now as President. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

His threats may backfire with the Chinese, & every other country we trade with when they don't know he's only JOKING dumbass. Do you believe we're the ONLY ones in the world that sell wheat, corn, meat, pork, soybeans & cars? Here is the 103 item list that the Chinese have added to their list. You might want to actually LOOK at it.
Full list of U.S. products that China is planning to hit with tariffs

The Chinese have been playing hardball with us on trade for years now and we've let them get away with it. Trump is simply telling them that's no longer the status quo. The Chinese will do what's good for both them and us in the long run because NOT doing so doesn't make sense for them!

Trade agreements are signed into law by congress & the President. What you do is RENEGOTIATE existing trade agreements with our trading partners not flip out like the Ass Clown he is and threaten them with tariffs. Especially when a country like China owns a lot of American debt.

You liberals are amusing. Have none of you ever renegotiated an agreement? You "threaten" one thing and then compromise on something totally different. Especially with someone that owns a lot of your debt! You want a perfect example? Look at how Trump handled the banks who owned debt on his casinos. Trump threatened to walk away from the casinos and make the banks eat the debt unless they renegotiated the debt and loaned him more money. The banks caved because it was the best deal available. That's not being an "Ass Clown" and it's EXACTLY the kind of thing that the Chinese will respect because it IS how you negotiate!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You bedwetters still haven't figured Trump out...have you? He threatens and then he backs off. It's the art of the deal in action. He's been doing it for decades as a businessman and he's doing it now as President. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

But he was a shitty businessman and he did not write that book.

You're not a shitty businessman when you build an empire like the one that Trump built. Claiming that he is...is simply stupid on your part...

Trump took the company his grandma gave him and almost lost it a few times. His shitty business decisions are well known.

When everyone was leaving Atlantic City he ignored all the "experts" and built a gigantic expensive casino that almost cost him grandma's company.

He bought an airline that had been profitable for more than 30 years and bankrupted it in less than 2. This happened solely because of Trump's business decisions. Trump was convinced that commuters between NY and Boston wanted gold faucets in the lavatory and mahogany trim in the cabin.

If you take the time and do a little research you will find that Trump's empire did not really take off until he quit making business decisions and focused on being a celebrity. It was not until Trump Inc became a holding company and Trump quit making day to day decisions that his empire took off.

 

[edward37]

I looked at the list. The Chinese are the ones who will suffer shortages because of their tariffs. We have other buyers.

My ass...you already pissed off most of the world. And what happened to fuck the world?
According to you ignorant Africa is a shithole, Europe is communist, Hispanics are rapists and criminals...go sell your soybean now to Israel.

And now the moron enlarges his war with China by 100 billion in new tariffs Is there no one to stop this AH?? Are all republicans afraid to tell him he's acting like a crazy man on drugs?

 

[Oldstyle]

You bedwetters still haven't figured Trump out...have you? He threatens and then he backs off. It's the art of the deal in action. He's been doing it for decades as a businessman and he's doing it now as President. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

But he was a shitty businessman and he did not write that book.

You're not a shitty businessman when you build an empire like the one that Trump built. Claiming that he is...is simply stupid on your part...

Trump took the company his grandma gave him and almost lost it a few times. His shitty business decisions are well known.

When everyone was leaving Atlantic City he ignored all the "experts" and built a gigantic expensive casino that almost cost him grandma's company.

He bought an airline that had been profitable for more than 30 years and bankrupted it in less than 2. This happened solely because of Trump's business decisions. Trump was convinced that commuters between NY and Boston wanted gold faucets in the lavatory and mahogany trim in the cabin.

If you take the time and do a little research you will find that Trump's empire did not really take off until he quit making business decisions and focused on being a celebrity. It was not until Trump Inc became a holding company and Trump quit making day to day decisions that his empire took off.

Has Trump had businesses that have failed? Ah...yeah! Have the number of business ventures that succeeded FAR outweighed those that did fail? OH YEAH! Many...many...many that were successful! Trump's empire really took off once he got to the point where he'd been so successful that he could make money simply by putting his name on things. He became a celebrity because his name was synonymous with success. I know that doesn't fit into the progressive "narrative" these days but it's reality...just like it's reality that he's your President.

 

[Oldstyle]

I looked at the list. The Chinese are the ones who will suffer shortages because of their tariffs. We have other buyers.

My ass...you already pissed off most of the world. And what happened to fuck the world?
According to you ignorant Africa is a shithole, Europe is communist, Hispanics are rapists and criminals...go sell your soybean now to Israel.

And now the moron enlarges his war with China by 100 billion in new tariffs Is there no one to stop this AH?? Are all republicans afraid to tell him he's acting like a crazy man on drugs?

Calm down, Eddie. Let someone who grasps how to compete with a power like China do his job! You concentrate on the things that liberals do well...like taxing people into oblivion and wasting those tax dollars on programs that don't help people.

 

[edward37]

I looked at the list. The Chinese are the ones who will suffer shortages because of their tariffs. We have other buyers.

My ass...you already pissed off most of the world. And what happened to fuck the world?
According to you ignorant Africa is a shithole, Europe is communist, Hispanics are rapists and criminals...go sell your soybean now to Israel.

And now the moron enlarges his war with China by 100 billion in new tariffs Is there no one to stop this AH?? Are all republicans afraid to tell him he's acting like a crazy man on drugs?

Calm down, Eddie. Let someone who grasps how to compete with a power like China do his job! You concentrate on the things that liberals do well...like taxing people into oblivion and wasting those tax dollars on programs that don't help people.

and you keep up with the republicans kill the beast Spend all the money on BS and attack medicare SS etc etc