No kidding Trump was on the defensive. The whole system is fixed against him.

[Iceweasel]

And what would you have done differently for the passed seven and one half years if (perish the thought) you were CIC?

ISIS wouldn't have developed if a Republican had been CiC. They happened because of obama/Hillary's eagerness to appease their dimwit base and left leaving Iraq without support.

Wow, Obama and HRC must be all powerful to have accomplished such a feat. Of course they had help:

• The collapse of the Ottoman Empire
• The Mandates imposed and the map redrawn of the ME post WW I
• The CYA's installation of the Shah in Iran
  
• The Creation of the State of Israel
• The exploitation of the oil by American and British Corporation
• The bombing attack on Libya by Reagan
• Declaring a war on Terror (a noun) and not denouncing 911 as a criminal act
• The invasion and especially the occupation of Iraq by Bush II

All played a role in creating the mess inherited by President Elect Obama's administration, along with the Great Recession. Trump and his supporters blame Obama and HRC for Benghazi, showing how foolish they are and how ignorant of history they are.

Huh? We are discussing ISIS, so now you want to obfuscate it with world history? What next, dinosaurs?

 

[hazlnut]

It's clear that those who support Trump are not only fools, bigots, racists, misogynists and neo fascists but are also the biggest whiners/cry babies on the Internet.

Hillary supporters are just clueless ill informed window lickers

^^^^
Irony.

 

[mamooth]

Huh? You thought Hillary's smug, condescending, superior acting performance was better than Trump's?

Get a grip, loser. Pretty much the whole nation thought Clinton schlonged Trump, hard.

The people who didn't? They're either:

1. Those who are paid by the Republicans.
2. Those who always support any Republican under every circumstance.
3. Those who know they lost big this time around, and simply lack the honesty to admit it.
4. Those who are completely detached from reality.

There are no other options. Which category are you in? And do you plan to keep up your insane claims even after the next round of polls? That is, how far are you willing to take your anti-reality tirades?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Victory is not assured for Trump has shown he can fool some of the people all of the time, some (you?) actually believed him when he claimed to have the proper temperament to be CIC with his hand on the football. That was proved untrue by his performance as a spoiled child last night.

Huh? You thought Hillary's smug, condescending, superior acting performance was better than Trump's?

You are deranged.

Just being smart doesn't make you smug. Smug is when Trump boasted about stiffing the country and even more smug was when he boasted about stiffing his workers. I wonder how many of them were Republican. Don't you?

She was/is smug. You don't see it because you suffer from the same anomaly. Looks perfectly normal from where you are sitting. When did Trump say he stiffed the country? I heard the whole thing, you're a liar. And he said he didn't pay some people, not "his workers". If the job was done wrong you have to pay someone to do it right.

You hear what you want to hear, which is a sign of someone willfully ignorant (in your case it may not be willful). In response to his not paying income tax, Trump did not deny it, instead he said that he didn't pay income tax because he was smart.

As for stiffing his workers, when you sign a contract, you must comply,

(A mechanic's lien is a security interest in the title to property for the benefit of those who have supplied labor or materials that improve the property. The lien exists for both real property and personal property)​

of course Trump's resources and the attorney's on his payroll could drive a small business out of business if they chose to enforce the lien. In short, Trump is a scofflaw.

 

[billyerock1991]

I cannot help but ask do the republicans want to lose these elections? Why do they allow these biased NBC moderators like Holt and Crowley to be in charge with ridiculous personal attacks on Trump that are hardly the most critical matters of the day, and of course not do the same towards Hillary? Plus his facts on the economy were so slanted and selective, plus his comment about cops shooting blacks was heavy propaganda. Why did he not ask about how scared black people are to go out in the streets or send their kids to school? Why is that not the issuE?

Then Hillary brings up his personal comments towards women, what options does he have but to defend or explain that?

Trump could have brought up countless quotes from insiders how cruel and nasty Hillary was to her secret service men or body guards or hired help, but he did not.

Trump could have spoken of her wild eyed videos, her incapacity to even stand up on her own, her B.S. explanation for a 9 month coughing jag being pneumonia but he did not.

The media is totally in bed with the democrats and consequently this nation is way too focused on how Trump is being defensive than they are on what exactly was said last night about the most important national issues. They keep saying Trump does not deal in specifics ---- but Hillary does??? She is going to heal relations between blacks and cops and instill trust just by saying it? She is going to give free college education by saying it? She did not dare speak of the 20 trillion dollar debt as though that has no bearing.

Hillary is a democrat and liberal. Whether she is a criminal or a liar or witch does matter nearly as much as how badly liberal policies have ruined this nation and put us at risk to terrorists and the unimaginable trade deficit with China and other countries. Plus, morally and spiritually, this nation is in bed with the evil one. I do not care who wins, this nation will still end up the loser.

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PS – the media is corrupt and the democrats profit from it greatly. If people were honest, educated and truly interested they would surely understand why Obama’s birth was questioned all along. They would surely see all the conflicting stories and facts that do not point to a Hawaiian birth, all the articles from his college days and run for senate days that refer to him as Kenyan that his handlers now call merely typos. They might even question why it took him 2 ½ years to settle this, not very presidential to hold a nation hostage that long if it was all B.S.

But even far more incriminating than all that is his total joke of the origins of his Connecticut social security card. No one brings that up in the media. Why? Because it exposes him for the total FRAUD he always was. Oh, Snopes tried to settle that and that is where the defenders of Obama will point to. But then, experts have totally discredited the whole Snopes defense and, once again, the media ran away from this as fast as they could. No one brings that up in the media. Why? Because it exposes him for the total FRAUD he always was. Oh, Snopes tried to settle that and that is where the defenders of Obama will point to. But then, experts have totally discredited the whole Snopes defense and, once again, the media ran away from this as fast as they could.

So that’s it. If you have the mainstream media and the lawyers and the culture media and the university echelon on your side, you can do as you please and the people will laugh right along with you at Trump and anyone else who dares criticize King Barack and Queen Hillary. Frankly Scarlet, I don’t give a damn. God is waiting to judge us all and it won’t be on who we voted for --- and it won’t be pretty either. (imo)

the reason they are done is it tell you the cariter of the person ... it pointed out how crocked Trump really is ... but when he tried to turn it around on hillary it seem to look like the croocked hillary name was fading away ... the people see who the real crook is and that would be the donald ... he whines on twitter every time he's out smarted that its the people like you say "Why do they allow these biased NBC moderators like Holt and Crowley to be in charge with ridiculous personal attacks on Trump that are hardly the most critical matters of the day, and of course not do the same towards Hillary" the problem you have he did do it to hillary the fact that she was prepared and responded with a better response yjrm your guy the donald he just rambled out of control... which tells us whose presidential and that's not the Donald

 

[billyerock1991]

Huh? You thought Hillary's smug, condescending, superior acting performance was better than Trump's?

Get a grip, loser. Pretty much the whole nation thought Clinton schlonged Trump, hard.

The people who didn't? They're either:

1. Those who are paid by the Republicans.
2. Those who always support any Republican under every circumstance.
3. Those who know they lost big this time around, and simply lack the honesty to admit it.
4. Those who are completely detached from reality.

There are no other options. Which category are you in? And do you plan to keep up your insane claims even after the next round of polls? That is, how far are you willing to take your anti-reality tirades?

mamooth you nailed it big time !!!

 

[Iceweasel]

Victory is not assured for Trump has shown he can fool some of the people all of the time, some (you?) actually believed him when he claimed to have the proper temperament to be CIC with his hand on the football. That was proved untrue by his performance as a spoiled child last night.

Huh? You thought Hillary's smug, condescending, superior acting performance was better than Trump's?

You are deranged.

Just being smart doesn't make you smug. Smug is when Trump boasted about stiffing the country and even more smug was when he boasted about stiffing his workers. I wonder how many of them were Republican. Don't you?

She was/is smug. You don't see it because you suffer from the same anomaly. Looks perfectly normal from where you are sitting. When did Trump say he stiffed the country? I heard the whole thing, you're a liar. And he said he didn't pay some people, not "his workers". If the job was done wrong you have to pay someone to do it right.

You hear what you want to hear, which is a sign of someone willfully ignorant (in your case it may not be willful). In response to his not paying income tax, Trump did not deny it, instead he said that he didn't pay income tax because he was smart.

As for stiffing his workers, when you sign a contract, you must comply,

(A mechanic's lien is a security interest in the title to property for the benefit of those who have supplied labor or materials that improve the property. The lien exists for both real property and personal property)​

of course Trump's resources and the attorney's on his payroll could drive a small business out of business if they chose to enforce the lien. In short, Trump is a scofflaw.

Dumbfuck, I'm a contractor. A contract is a two way street. If the work was subpar it was a do over. He appears to be very particular. Now go find evidence that the work was up to the scope of the contracts.

 

[Iceweasel]

Huh? You thought Hillary's smug, condescending, superior acting performance was better than Trump's?

Get a grip, loser. Pretty much the whole nation thought Clinton schlonged Trump, hard.

The people who didn't? They're either:

1. Those who are paid by the Republicans.
2. Those who always support any Republican under every circumstance.
3. Those who know they lost big this time around, and simply lack the honesty to admit it.
4. Those who are completely detached from reality.

There are no other options. Which category are you in? And do you plan to keep up your insane claims even after the next round of polls? That is, how far are you willing to take your anti-reality tirades?

Go suck the hind end of your cat, loser. Lying and smearing is all you have. No, the whole nation doesn't think Hillary won, you just made that up.

You are an idiot to think you can bluff people around like that.

 

[turzovka]

the reason they are done is it tell you the cariter of the person ... it pointed out how crocked Trump really is ... but when he tried to turn it around on hillary it seem to look like the croocked hillary name was fading away ... the people see who the real crook is and that would be the donald ... he whines on twitter every time he's out smarted that its the people like you say "Why do they allow these biased NBC moderators like Holt and Crowley to be in charge with ridiculous personal attacks on Trump that are hardly the most critical matters of the day, and of course not do the same towards Hillary" the problem you have he did do it to hillary the fact that she was prepared and responded with a better response yjrm your guy the donald he just rambled out of control... which tells us whose presidential and that's not the Donald

You are overstating character as it appears in a TV debate or in a campaign rally.

Character is what one does when they have an enormous amount of responsibility. And you called Trump "the real crook." Meaning what?... that Hillary is not??? This woman lied before congress and the FBI on matters far more grave for the nation than anything Trump was accountable for as a private citizen. Get serious.

And yes the set ups by Holt were bullshit and slanted to favor the democrat positions. And the birther question was inane compared to what should have been discussed. The MSM is so in bed for the left (including the odious Rupert Murchoch of Fox and Megyn Kelly) that a serious state lie by Obama about his birth has not only NOT worked against him, but it has been a major boon in his favor --- thanks to the media! Anyone dare mention it or question it is laughed at by gullible Americans like you. Because you are so smart and know so much. Ha!!

 

[mamooth]

You sound bitter, iceweasel. I suppose it's the knowledge of your impending loserdom that causes that.

CNN/ORC poll of debate viewers gave it to Clinton by 62-27. That's an actual poll of the randomly sampled, not an online poll of the self-selected where anyone can vote multiple times. And remember that 25% of people will always vote to say their own party's candidate won, no matter how badly they did. It was a complete rout.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/09/27/poll.pdf

 

[BluesLegend]

It was blatant.....so much so, America could clearly see the 2 on 1 attack on Trump....

I don't think that will go over well with the people....

Many of us predicted this, they can't win a straight up debate so they double team Trump while completely avoiding any questions on many of Hillary's issues. Based on the snap polls the American people saw right through this crap, good for them.

 

[rdean]

His GOP base admires him for not paying his taxes, he's stiffing veterans, schools and the country.
Republicans are fine with that.
He calls stiffing the country "good business". Like he stiffs his workers.

I don't want to be stiffed. Not by Putin's orange dildo.

DERP.....

I know you admire him for stiffing his workers. If you had a job, you could be one of those workers. Didn't that ever occur to you?

DERP....run along, old man. You're just a bitter old tool, never amounted to a hill of crap in your miserable life.

So do you or don't you admire that he stiffs his workers. Tell us the truth.

 

[BluesLegend]

You sound bitter, iceweasel. I suppose it's the knowledge of your impending loserdom that causes that.

CNN/ORC poll of debate viewers gave it to Clinton by 62-27. That's an actual poll of the randomly sampled, not an online poll of the self-selected where anyone can vote multiple times. And remember that 25% of people will always vote to say their own party's candidate won, no matter how badly they did. It was a complete rout.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/09/27/poll.pdf

The old hag lost the debate huge, all she had was status quo, stay the course, and denial. Trump points out 4,000 killed in Chicago alone and Hillary's response was well the level of violence is better than it was way back when, nothing to see here, no problem to solve. The woman is a joke. Pure lying hack politician. When she loses in November I'm going to laugh at the left for at least 4 years rubbing salt in that wound.

 

[rdean]

And what would you have done differently for the passed seven and one half years if (perish the thought) you were CIC?

Nuke Iran and Syria? Put US Forces in Harms Way? BTW, have you ever served in the Armed Forces of the US?

Like how much time do you think I have to waste here? I will provide you with four only. Edit: Make that FIVE.

I would not have put our nation an additional one trillion dollars in debt by that phony stimulus plan where he handed out money to all his benefactors’ favorite businesses, to green jobs, to art museums and local govts who squandered it all away for nothing.

Great news: $111 million in stimulus money to L.A. produces … 54 jobs - Hot Air

I would not have engaged in that embarrassing “cash for clunkers” boondoggle. Here people who did not need a new vehicle were turning theirs in for money and then the govt forced the car dealers to destroy perfectly good vehicles because of their emissions. Meanwhile you see ads every week of disabled veterans and needy charities begging us to give their old cars to them instead of junking them or trading them in so they can make a few dollars to support themselves. Real fricking smart Obama.

I would have put troops on the ground and kicked the shit out of ISIS in Iraq and Syria before it turned into this demonic monster. And explained later to the leftist media and gullible American public why it was necessary.

I would have convicted the IRS and Hillary on their inexcusable crimes.

#5. I WOULD HAVE MARCHED WITH THE OTHER LEADERS OF STATES IN THE WEST IN PARIS AGAINST ISLAMIC TERRORISM INSTEAD OF HIDING UNDER MY DESK!!

Troops on the ground to kick the shit out of Isis. They don't wear uniforms. How would you know what they look like? Or would you just shoot everyone?

Gawd you're stupid. Really stupid. Stupid fuck level of stupid.

 

[turzovka]

Troops on the ground to kick the shit out of Isis. They don't wear uniforms. How would you know what they look like? Or would you just shoot everyone?

Gawd you're stupid. Really stupid. Stupid fuck level of stupid.

Your reputation precedes you.

I take whatever you say as the words of a juvenile clown.

 

[mamooth]

The old hag lost the debate huge

Yet all the polls say the opposite. Conclusion: You're bitter and delusional over your impending loss.

When she loses in November I'm going to laugh at the left for at least 4 years rubbing salt in that wound.

At this point, given the degree of the loss you're facing, non-moron Trump-fans are backing away from such crazy statements, to reduce the amount of mockery they'll face after their humiliating loss. The smarter ones are already posting their excuses for losing, such as that "the vote counts are rigged!".

Alas, you're a true believer, hence you're going to have to endure special amounts of humiliation.

Don't worry. You can always flee from the board for a few months, like many of the Romney fans after the 2012 election. We expect almost all of Trump fans to run, being that Trump fans are especially known for being wimps.

(And mugwumps. I'm tossing that word in so I can search this post out easier after the election.)

 

[BluesLegend]

The old hag lost the debate huge

Yet all the polls say the opposite. Conclusion: You're bitter and delusional over your impending loss.

When she loses in November I'm going to laugh at the left for at least 4 years rubbing salt in that wound.

At this point, given the degree of the loss you're facing, non-moron Trump-fans are backing away from such crazy statements, to reduce the amount of mockery they'll face after their humiliating loss. The smarter ones are already posting their excuses for losing, such as that "the vote counts are rigged!".

Alas, you're a true believer, hence you're going to have to endure special amounts of humiliation.

Don't worry. You can always flee from the board for a few months, like many of the Romney fans after the 2012 election. We expect almost all of Trump fans to run, being that Trump fans are especially known for being wimps.

(And mugwumps. I'm tossing that word in so I can search this post out easier after the election.)

You lie, shocker.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Victory is not assured for Trump has shown he can fool some of the people all of the time, some (you?) actually believed him when he claimed to have the proper temperament to be CIC with his hand on the football. That was proved untrue by his performance as a spoiled child last night.

Huh? You thought Hillary's smug, condescending, superior acting performance was better than Trump's?

You are deranged.

Just being smart doesn't make you smug. Smug is when Trump boasted about stiffing the country and even more smug was when he boasted about stiffing his workers. I wonder how many of them were Republican. Don't you?

She was/is smug. You don't see it because you suffer from the same anomaly. Looks perfectly normal from where you are sitting. When did Trump say he stiffed the country? I heard the whole thing, you're a liar. And he said he didn't pay some people, not "his workers". If the job was done wrong you have to pay someone to do it right.

You hear what you want to hear, which is a sign of someone willfully ignorant (in your case it may not be willful). In response to his not paying income tax, Trump did not deny it, instead he said that he didn't pay income tax because he was smart.

As for stiffing his workers, when you sign a contract, you must comply,

(A mechanic's lien is a security interest in the title to property for the benefit of those who have supplied labor or materials that improve the property. The lien exists for both real property and personal property)​

of course Trump's resources and the attorney's on his payroll could drive a small business out of business if they chose to enforce the lien. In short, Trump is a scofflaw.

Dumbfuck, I'm a contractor. A contract is a two way street. If the work was subpar it was a do over. He appears to be very particular. Now go find evidence that the work was up to the scope of the contracts.

Dumbfuck is the name of a member of the crazy right wing, it appears you have not addressed your foolishness correctly.

Nothing you've ever posted, or you will ever post, can be trusted as true.

A contract written with sufficient detail describes the job, labor and material; in CA, the law requires a limited first payment to seal the deal, and a schedule for payments as the work progresses with a final payment at the conclusion of he work. At anytime the work can be examined & if the customer feels the job, material or labor is not what was promised in the contract, and if the work requires a permit and does not pass, the payment due can be withheld and work stopped within the terms of the contract.

I doubt you are a licensed contractor.

 

[Rustic]

Huh? You thought Hillary's smug, condescending, superior acting performance was better than Trump's?

You are deranged.

Just being smart doesn't make you smug. Smug is when Trump boasted about stiffing the country and even more smug was when he boasted about stiffing his workers. I wonder how many of them were Republican. Don't you?

She was/is smug. You don't see it because you suffer from the same anomaly. Looks perfectly normal from where you are sitting. When did Trump say he stiffed the country? I heard the whole thing, you're a liar. And he said he didn't pay some people, not "his workers". If the job was done wrong you have to pay someone to do it right.

You hear what you want to hear, which is a sign of someone willfully ignorant (in your case it may not be willful). In response to his not paying income tax, Trump did not deny it, instead he said that he didn't pay income tax because he was smart.

As for stiffing his workers, when you sign a contract, you must comply,

(A mechanic's lien is a security interest in the title to property for the benefit of those who have supplied labor or materials that improve the property. The lien exists for both real property and personal property)​

of course Trump's resources and the attorney's on his payroll could drive a small business out of business if they chose to enforce the lien. In short, Trump is a scofflaw.

Dumbfuck, I'm a contractor. A contract is a two way street. If the work was subpar it was a do over. He appears to be very particular. Now go find evidence that the work was up to the scope of the contracts.

Dumbfuck is the name of a member of the crazy right wing, it appears you have not addressed your foolishness correctly.

Nothing you've ever posted, or you will ever post, can be trusted as true.

A contract written with sufficient detail describes the job, labor and material; in CA, the law requires a limited first payment to seal the deal, and a schedule for payments as the work progresses with a final payment at the conclusion of he work. At anytime the work can be examined & if the customer feels the job, material or labor is not what was promised in the contract, and if the work requires a permit and does not pass, the payment due can be withheld and work stopped within the terms of the contract.

I doubt you are a licensed contractor.

California is a fucked up place

 

[Iceweasel]

Huh? You thought Hillary's smug, condescending, superior acting performance was better than Trump's?

You are deranged.

Just being smart doesn't make you smug. Smug is when Trump boasted about stiffing the country and even more smug was when he boasted about stiffing his workers. I wonder how many of them were Republican. Don't you?

She was/is smug. You don't see it because you suffer from the same anomaly. Looks perfectly normal from where you are sitting. When did Trump say he stiffed the country? I heard the whole thing, you're a liar. And he said he didn't pay some people, not "his workers". If the job was done wrong you have to pay someone to do it right.

You hear what you want to hear, which is a sign of someone willfully ignorant (in your case it may not be willful). In response to his not paying income tax, Trump did not deny it, instead he said that he didn't pay income tax because he was smart.

As for stiffing his workers, when you sign a contract, you must comply,

(A mechanic's lien is a security interest in the title to property for the benefit of those who have supplied labor or materials that improve the property. The lien exists for both real property and personal property)​

of course Trump's resources and the attorney's on his payroll could drive a small business out of business if they chose to enforce the lien. In short, Trump is a scofflaw.

Dumbfuck, I'm a contractor. A contract is a two way street. If the work was subpar it was a do over. He appears to be very particular. Now go find evidence that the work was up to the scope of the contracts.

Dumbfuck is the name of a member of the crazy right wing, it appears you have not addressed your foolishness correctly.

Nothing you've ever posted, or you will ever post, can be trusted as true.

A contract written with sufficient detail describes the job, labor and material; in CA, the law requires a limited first payment to seal the deal, and a schedule for payments as the work progresses with a final payment at the conclusion of he work. At anytime the work can be examined & if the customer feels the job, material or labor is not what was promised in the contract, and if the work requires a permit and does not pass, the payment due can be withheld and work stopped within the terms of the contract.

I doubt you are a licensed contractor.

I doubt you graduated high school. You don't know the details of the cases and you obviously don't care to or you would have at least tried to support it. You want us to believe he got great work done and decided for shits and giggles to not pay the companies. Don't blame me if it looks stupid.