No living President, Secretary of State or FED Chairman endorse Trump

i'm never going to say that this president was a great president. but we've had far worse and congress didn't obstruct them from the day they were inaugurated. i'm not sure how you lead under those circumstances.

First two years of his presidency he had a congress that was controlled by his party, and he still couldn't get things done.

The ironic thing is, for years Democrats said, "If Republicans were more like John McCain, we could actually support them", and the minute the GOP nominated the actual John McCain, Democrats rejected him for the pinup boy. So now you act all surprised when the GOP goes nuts and nominates a Nazi who promises to crack some heads?

democrats need to start building their back bench. they need to put democrats in statehouse jobs, and local jobs and start developing the depth that the GOP has. what republicans can't have is all three branches of government. clearly they can't even be trusted with two. it is irksome when democrats get one million more votes in House races than the GOP and the GOP still usurps the House because of gerrymandering. that too needs to be changed and that will come from the courts at some point.

depth didn't help the GOP this time. They had lots of qualified candidates and they nominated Trump anyway. Meanwhile, the Democrats came way too close to nominating Comrade Bernie.

What should happen is both parties need to realize, "Hey, the people elected us to get some work done, let's get some work done". If Trump is winning, it's because he's created the illusion of someone who can get shit done.

Have no illusions... if Hillary wins, she's a one-term president who will have a 30% approval rating. And that assumes that we don't have a recession, which we probably will. The democrats will get slaughtered in the 2018 midterms and the GOP will be in a great position in 2020. Heck, I might even vote for them if they nominate someone who isn't batshit crazy.

yes. we had control of the government. but do i need to remind you that the GOP started using the filibuster as a tool of their trade instead of just as something to be used when they came upon a subject that was of extraordinary concern. go back and look at how many times the GOP used the filibuster since Obama became president versus how often it was used previously.

the GOP did have qualified people this time. If Katich or Rubio had won, they would have been guaranteed the win. Hands down. After two terms it's usually historically a new party that moves in to the white house. this is what i mean about trumpsters.... the nastier he got... the more he did the racist dog-whistle and gathered his white supremacists, the more they voted for him. he only got 40% of the GOP primary vote.... which breaks down to about 40% of 47% of the electorate. the problem was the majority of GOP voters couldn't congeal around one candidate. and making national polls matter (like Fox news did when setting the debates) kept anyone else from getting a foothold. and of course, we had donald sucking all of the air out of the room, so to speak.

i don't believe she'll be a one term president. they said obama would be a one term president, too. and hillary always has crazy high approval ratings when she's actually in a job... it's only when she's running for one that they trash her and suddenly one of the most accomplished women in the country becomes a hapless idiot to the right. (which btw, doesn't help them with the women's vote).
 
i'm never going to say that this president was a great president. but we've had far worse and congress didn't obstruct them from the day they were inaugurated. i'm not sure how you lead under those circumstances.

First two years of his presidency he had a congress that was controlled by his party, and he still couldn't get things done.

The ironic thing is, for years Democrats said, "If Republicans were more like John McCain, we could actually support them", and the minute the GOP nominated the actual John McCain, Democrats rejected him for the pinup boy. So now you act all surprised when the GOP goes nuts and nominates a Nazi who promises to crack some heads?

democrats need to start building their back bench. they need to put democrats in statehouse jobs, and local jobs and start developing the depth that the GOP has. what republicans can't have is all three branches of government. clearly they can't even be trusted with two. it is irksome when democrats get one million more votes in House races than the GOP and the GOP still usurps the House because of gerrymandering. that too needs to be changed and that will come from the courts at some point.

depth didn't help the GOP this time. They had lots of qualified candidates and they nominated Trump anyway. Meanwhile, the Democrats came way too close to nominating Comrade Bernie.

What should happen is both parties need to realize, "Hey, the people elected us to get some work done, let's get some work done". If Trump is winning, it's because he's created the illusion of someone who can get shit done.

Have no illusions... if Hillary wins, she's a one-term president who will have a 30% approval rating. And that assumes that we don't have a recession, which we probably will. The democrats will get slaughtered in the 2018 midterms and the GOP will be in a great position in 2020. Heck, I might even vote for them if they nominate someone who isn't batshit crazy.

yes. we had control of the government. but do i need to remind you that the GOP started using the filibuster as a tool of their trade instead of just as something to be used when they came upon a subject that was of extraordinary concern. go back and look at how many times the GOP used the filibuster since Obama became president versus how often it was used previously.

the GOP did have qualified people this time. If Katich or Rubio had won, they would have been guaranteed the win. Hands down. After two terms it's usually historically a new party that moves in to the white house. this is what i mean about trumpsters.... the nastier he got... the more he did the racist dog-whistle and gathered his white supremacists, the more they voted for him. he only got 40% of the GOP primary vote.... which breaks down to about 40% of 47% of the electorate. the problem was the majority of GOP voters couldn't congeal around one candidate. and making national polls matter (like Fox news did when setting the debates) kept anyone else from getting a foothold. and of course, we had donald sucking all of the air out of the room, so to speak.

i don't believe she'll be a one term president. they said obama would be a one term president, too. and hillary always has crazy high approval ratings when she's actually in a job... it's only when she's running for one that they trash her and suddenly one of the most accomplished women in the country becomes a hapless idiot to the right. (which btw, doesn't help them with the women's vote).
Awww...you're sad your plantation no longer is listening to your racist dog whistle....
 
Correct me if I am wrong but no living President, Secretary of State or FED Chairman endorses Trump..

These are the people who know what the job on President is about and not one of them said Trump can do it...

Sorry this looks like evidence and we know how the Trump side just hates facts and evidence....
That would be a compelling argument in a normal world.

There's a lot of people out there who have been worked up into a tizzy, they've been made extremely frustrated and pissed, and rather than patiently working their way through this, they just want to blow shit up and see what happens.
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Correct me if I am wrong but no living President, Secretary of State or FED Chairman endorses Trump..

These are the people who know what the job on President is about and not one of them said Trump can do it...

Sorry this looks like evidence and we know how the Trump side just hates facts and evidence....
Trump's appeal is that we've had enough of these worthless scumbags. You like them, we don't. You don't get it.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but no living President, Secretary of State or FED Chairman endorses Trump..

These are the people who know what the job on President is about and not one of them said Trump can do it...

Sorry this looks like evidence and we know how the Trump side just hates facts and evidence....
None of the GOP'ers do.....you just crawl out from under your rock?
DERP DERP DERP.

Classic trump supporter right there.
Yep...I am a proud deplorable.....
Proud to be a moron. Good for you.
 
i don't believe she'll be a one term president. they said obama would be a one term president, too. and hillary always has crazy high approval ratings when she's actually in a job... it's only when she's running for one that they trash her and suddenly one of the most accomplished women in the country becomes a hapless idiot to the right. (which btw, doesn't help them with the women's vote).

Hillary has high approval ratings when no one sees her.

The thing is, when people see Hillary, they dont like her. That's why she lost the nomination in 2008 to a lightweight, and why she almost lost to a geriatric communist this time. Even her own side isn't thrilled with her.

She will be a one-term president, mostly because we rarely let the same party win four times in a row. I think it's only happened three times in our history.

And again, that assumes we don't have a recession in there. We are well overdue for one.

Hillary winning this year is not going to end well for Democrats. It's better than electing the Nazi who is going to kill us all, but it will do long term damage to the Democratic Party.
 
i should clarify....i am not referring to all people who intend to vote for trump... i am referring specifically to the hysterical, dishonest, conspiracy theorists who are what i call "trumpsters". and i do believe they hate this country. they hate it's diversity. they hate the rights given to anyone who disagrees with them. they have a leader who thinks tactics that violate the constitution and that violate the geneva conventions are appropriate when used against minorities or those who disagree with their religious beliefs.
Thanks for clarifying Jilly, you made up a loathsome creature in your mind to represent your enemies. Nothing you said is factual.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but no living President, Secretary of State or FED Chairman endorses Trump..

These are the people who know what the job on President is about and not one of them said Trump can do it...

Sorry this looks like evidence and we know how the Trump side just hates facts and evidence....
That would be a compelling argument in a normal world.

There's a lot of people out there who have been worked up into a tizzy, they've been made extremely frustrated and pissed, and rather than patiently working their way through this, they just want to blow shit up and see what happens.
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The worthless do nothing, milk the people dry politicians are the ones that have people worked up. You are clueless!
 
you are aware that trumpsters don't care. they see it as a badge of honor. the more stupid, offensive and course their guy is, the happier they are.

that's what happens when people hate their country

No, they don't hate their country.

It becomes to easy to judge Trump's support by the "Deplorables" who are the most vocal. I'll even admit I do it from time to time. (Actually, a lot.)

But the reality is, Trump is the symptom of a bigger problem. The two party system has failed, conventional politics have failed. We have problems, they don't get addressed, and people are frustrated.

So the Democrats tried to nominate a socialist, and the Republicans have nominated a fascist. Because people are fed up with politics as usual.

And have no illusions. The alternative to Trump is more of the same. More gridlock and more petty bickering.

JoeB,

I have been saying it since the start of this cycle...

The first thing Hillary should do day one is invite Paul Ryan for dinner and talk about introducing different voting and campaign financing system...

In truth Paul Ryan would be the winner but the big winner would be USA.

The way the US is heading it is going to vote for an extreme candidate who the people didn't actually want, they just didn't want the other candidate.

I would propose,
  • End to winner takes all states
  • Proportional votes to allocated
  • Double or triple the number of EC votes and make it more representative of the actual populations it represents
  • Introduce STV (Single Transfer Voting, Preference Voting) with Proportional Representation(Multi seat districts)
  • Reverse Citizens United and look at making all campaigns public funded.
I would see as the result... Multiple Party(with a stronger whip) system which closer reflects the people they represent rather than a big tent of hidden deals and back scratching. Alliances will form and break over issues and time periods.
Gerrymandering gone...

Congressmen instead of spending over half their time raising money to get reelected, can now do their job.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but no living President, Secretary of State or FED Chairman endorses Trump..

These are the people who know what the job on President is about and not one of them said Trump can do it...

Sorry this looks like evidence and we know how the Trump side just hates facts and evidence....

you are aware that trumpsters don't care. they see it as a badge of honor. the more stupid, offensive and course their guy is, the happier they are.

that's what happens when people hate their country

They don't hate their country, they hate idiots like you, smarmy know-it-all types who keep thinking "we know whats best for you, and we are going to force you to do it".
 
you are aware that trumpsters don't care. they see it as a badge of honor. the more stupid, offensive and course their guy is, the happier they are.

that's what happens when people hate their country

No, they don't hate their country.

It becomes to easy to judge Trump's support by the "Deplorables" who are the most vocal. I'll even admit I do it from time to time. (Actually, a lot.)

But the reality is, Trump is the symptom of a bigger problem. The two party system has failed, conventional politics have failed. We have problems, they don't get addressed, and people are frustrated.

So the Democrats tried to nominate a socialist, and the Republicans have nominated a fascist. Because people are fed up with politics as usual.

And have no illusions. The alternative to Trump is more of the same. More gridlock and more petty bickering.
So, you're ignorance is saying you think Trump is to the left of hitlery.....do tell.....
What a moron.:rolleyes-41:
 
Correct me if I am wrong but no living President, Secretary of State or FED Chairman endorses Trump..

These are the people who know what the job on President is about and not one of them said Trump can do it...

Sorry this looks like evidence and we know how the Trump side just hates facts and evidence....
None of the GOP'ers do.....you just crawl out from under your rock?

So you have no one who did or advised on major decisions involving the job saying your candidate can actually do it...

This is not political for a lot of these... Trump has praised some of these guys...
You did, didn't you....we don't want any of the GOP'ers support....if we did,,we would not have pushed Trump....GOPer support hurts Trump, not helps....

Who is this "we"?
I wonder why D voters have become one with the establishment. Is it merely because they are easily duped by the establishment?
As opposed to RW nutcases who are simply 'easily duped.'
 
Correct me if I am wrong but no living President, Secretary of State or FED Chairman endorses Trump....

Honestly, that's the greatest endorsement any candidate could get in my mind. When the lying criminals won't endorse you, you can't be that bad.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but no living President, Secretary of State or FED Chairman endorses Trump..

These are the people who know what the job on President is about and not one of them said Trump can do it...

Sorry this looks like evidence and we know how the Trump side just hates facts and evidence....

Although I'll not be voting for Trump, if what you claim is true, that's a damn good reason to vote Trump.

Allow me to restate: The asshole politicians and bureaucrats that got us into this mess don't like Trump? That's a sign he's doing something right.

Now off you go collectivist boy!
 
i'm never going to say that this president was a great president. but we've had far worse and congress didn't obstruct them from the day they were inaugurated. i'm not sure how you lead under those circumstances.

First two years of his presidency he had a congress that was controlled by his party, and he still couldn't get things done.

The ironic thing is, for years Democrats said, "If Republicans were more like John McCain, we could actually support them", and the minute the GOP nominated the actual John McCain, Democrats rejected him for the pinup boy. So now you act all surprised when the GOP goes nuts and nominates a Nazi who promises to crack some heads?

democrats need to start building their back bench. they need to put democrats in statehouse jobs, and local jobs and start developing the depth that the GOP has. what republicans can't have is all three branches of government. clearly they can't even be trusted with two. it is irksome when democrats get one million more votes in House races than the GOP and the GOP still usurps the House because of gerrymandering. that too needs to be changed and that will come from the courts at some point.

depth didn't help the GOP this time. They had lots of qualified candidates and they nominated Trump anyway. Meanwhile, the Democrats came way too close to nominating Comrade Bernie.

What should happen is both parties need to realize, "Hey, the people elected us to get some work done, let's get some work done". If Trump is winning, it's because he's created the illusion of someone who can get shit done.

Have no illusions... if Hillary wins, she's a one-term president who will have a 30% approval rating. And that assumes that we don't have a recession, which we probably will. The democrats will get slaughtered in the 2018 midterms and the GOP will be in a great position in 2020. Heck, I might even vote for them if they nominate someone who isn't batshit crazy.

JoeB,

You failed to realize that Hillary gets praise from both sides on her ability to deal make. Clinton is not a good campaigner but she is very effective in government and has proven so.

I think the GOP has sailed to close to the wind on this one and will be looking to reintroduce a calmer environment (less of the angry shit)... It is definitely in there interest to turn down the rhetoric and increase the pragmatism which people used to associate with their party.

At the the end of the day Cruz was actually worse than Sanders, So the GOP picked 1st and 2nd as awful candidates... Kaisch was good though...
 
Correct me if I am wrong but no living President, Secretary of State or FED Chairman endorses Trump..

These are the people who know what the job on President is about and not one of them said Trump can do it...

Sorry this looks like evidence and we know how the Trump side just hates facts and evidence....
None of the GOP'ers do.....you just crawl out from under your rock?

Example ^^^ of an Idiot-Gram
 
'No living President, Secretary of State or FED Chairman endorse Trump'

And?
 
You mean the fools that helped with the process of our downfall? The ones most people have been bitching about for decades?
Who gives a shit?
 
Correct me if I am wrong but no living President, Secretary of State or FED Chairman endorses Trump..

Of course not. They're the ones who screwed things up in the first place. They all - every one - are every bit the globalists Carter, the Clinton's and Obama are.
 

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