No More Hope

[Billy000]

Nice deflection. But I won't be falling for your diversionary tactics. Either cough up some links or be negged. I don't like being lied to.

Lol TK you are pathetic. Admit you can't answer my questions. Once you do that, I'll be happy to show you evidence.

I did answer your questions. But anyhow, negged for not supporting your argument with 'undeniable evidence.' I warned you, Billy. Your calling me 'pathetic' is even more deserving of it. You don't have any evidence to show me, otherwise you wouldn't be resorting to ad hominem as you are now.

You were warned.

Um no I was asking for specifics. You haven't given me that.

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah, there was a lot of that in 2008. The air was filled with it. I was 20 years old that year and I can remember riding around in the car with my grandmother through this booming college town of Athens Georgia and seeing so many dorms and houses adorned with the Obama campaign slogan and logo. You see, Athens is a mainly liberal city, the paper leans left, lots of the professors at UGA are Democrats. But anyways, so many people had hope then. As hard right as I was then, even I couldn't help but think "maybe this Obama guy won't be so bad. He's given this country hope again." I voted for John McCain in my very first presidential election, however.

I stayed up all night the day before the inauguration, so I could see Bush ride off into the sunset and see Obama, the man who brought so much hope to this country arrive to lead the nation. A little voice, though, kept saying, "looks can be deceiving, this hope has been offered by many a president before. " Little was I aware that in the coming 6 years, the little voice was right. Hope is a fleeting thing, but it draws the soul like a super magnet. Emotions and rational thought can sometimes be buried in hope. Hope, it seems, is also easily exploitable by men and women who would seek to run for president.

When 2010 came along, I could sense a change in the country's mood. Perhaps they felt as if they made a mistake in giving the Democrats so much power two years prior, that November, the Democrats were crushed in the mid-terms, barely holding on to the Senate. However, that mood dissipated, because just two years later, Obama was re-elected again. He didn't campaign on hope this time, but a newfangled health care law he signed into law. At that moment, I felt as if the man was invincible, much to my dismay. At that moment, I felt in my heart that there was no more hope for this great country of ours.

Many people of my worldview then saw how much Obama ill thought of the Constitution he swore to uphold. I thought, "Just another president who broke his oath. When will there ever be a president elected who will uphold our Constitution as he promises?" However, the year 2013 came along. That year would wind up breaking the Obama presidency, eroding the hope people once had in it. The faith was gone. As the scandals broke out, as the once hailed healthcare law took effect and fell flat on it's face; many people began questioning the choice they made those five short years ago. They began to ask "is there any hope for us?" More and more people began to lose the hope they once had in the man who seemingly had it in abundant supply. As this year came along, I could see that there was no more hope for the Democrats. It had by January, evaporated, unlike the snow on the ground.

As the month of July rolls past in this year 2014, we now know where that hope has gone. It was nothing more than a lie, lofted on the wind for those in far away places. There was no hope, well, not for us at least. As we have tens of thousands of illegals flooding our border, we see now that it is America who has no hope; instead those who think of it as merely a place to gain without sacrifice, live without hardship, and work without any burden. But it will not take long for them to soon realize, as we have already--there is no more hope. Perhaps then, the human soul will provide that hope, instead of silver tongued politicians who carry hope on their sleeves and not in their hearts.

With the economy collapsing, I hope we don't go into a depression
I hope I don't lose my job
I hope I can get health insurance
As a gay, I hope I can someday get married
I hope we get the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan
I hope we fianally kill that bastard Bin Laden

Yea, there was a lot of Hope in 2008

And a lot of stupidity, come to think of it.

Evidently not

There was a lot of uncertainty in 2008. The economy was on the brink of collapse. If the banks failed, we would go into depression. If the auto companies failed, we would lose a major part of our industrial base. 700,000 people a month were losing their jobs.

Hope and change paid off

 

[TemplarKormac]

The Best Worst President Ever

Was that the best you could come up with?

Compared to your OP, it's worthy of a Pulitzer.

LOL. Nice comeback. Too bad comebacks are all you got. You can't even come up with an objective argument can you?

Good thing it isn't worthy of a Pulitzer, Seawytch, or all of journalism would be doomed.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Lol TK you are pathetic. Admit you can't answer my questions. Once you do that, I'll be happy to show you evidence.

I did answer your questions. But anyhow, negged for not supporting your argument with 'undeniable evidence.' I warned you, Billy. Your calling me 'pathetic' is even more deserving of it. You don't have any evidence to show me, otherwise you wouldn't be resorting to ad hominem as you are now.

You were warned.

Um no I was asking for specifics. You haven't given me that.

Yeah, whatever. Links or it didn't happen.

 

[Votto]

With the economy collapsing, I hope we don't go into a depression
I hope I don't lose my job
I hope I can get health insurance
As a gay, I hope I can someday get married
I hope we get the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan
I hope we fianally kill that bastard Bin Laden

Yea, there was a lot of Hope in 2008

And a lot of stupidity, come to think of it.

Evidently not

There was a lot of uncertainty in 2008. The economy was on the brink of collapse. If the banks failed, we would go into depression. If the auto companies failed, we would lose a major part of our industrial base. 700,000 people a month were losing their jobs.

Hope and change paid off

So you endorse corporate socialism?

 

[TemplarKormac]

With the economy collapsing, I hope we don't go into a depression
I hope I don't lose my job
I hope I can get health insurance
As a gay, I hope I can someday get married
I hope we get the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan
I hope we fianally kill that bastard Bin Laden

Yea, there was a lot of Hope in 2008

And a lot of stupidity, come to think of it.

Evidently not

There was a lot of uncertainty in 2008. The economy was on the brink of collapse. If the banks failed, we would go into depression. If the auto companies failed, we would lose a major part of our industrial base. 700,000 people a month were losing their jobs.

Hope and change paid off

Really? So, those 6 million people who lost their insurance would be dying to tell you that it paid off? What about our ailing vets? You're serious aren't you?

 

[TemplarKormac]

And a lot of stupidity, come to think of it.

Evidently not

There was a lot of uncertainty in 2008. The economy was on the brink of collapse. If the banks failed, we would go into depression. If the auto companies failed, we would lose a major part of our industrial base. 700,000 people a month were losing their jobs.

Hope and change paid off

So you endorse corporate socialism?

Evidently he does.

 

[rightwinger]

And a lot of stupidity, come to think of it.

Evidently not

There was a lot of uncertainty in 2008. The economy was on the brink of collapse. If the banks failed, we would go into depression. If the auto companies failed, we would lose a major part of our industrial base. 700,000 people a month were losing their jobs.

Hope and change paid off

So you endorse corporate socialism?

Haven't seen it yet

 

[TemplarKormac]

Evidently not

There was a lot of uncertainty in 2008. The economy was on the brink of collapse. If the banks failed, we would go into depression. If the auto companies failed, we would lose a major part of our industrial base. 700,000 people a month were losing their jobs.

Hope and change paid off

So you endorse corporate socialism?

Haven't seen it yet

Because it will never happen. Unfortunately for you.

 

[zeke]

Holy shit! What are you doing wasting your talents here. A thing of beauty like that needs to be published. Have you tried The New Yorker? Maybe Backpage?

I would thank you for that if I didn't already know how sarcastic you were with me just then.

The New Yorker isn't bad though... and Backpage not a very nice place to publish anything other than classifieds. It is a cheap and lecherous knockoff of Craigslist. In fact, I should neg you for even suggesting Backpage. How utterly revolting.

I actually have a MUCH better suggestion as to where you publish your rants.

Have them printed on toilet paper. Yep that's right. Something as funny and stupid as the shit you write should be used for ass wiping and flushing.

That is all the good your "writings" offer. But even toilet paper has a purpose. You on the other hand........I don't think so.

Unless your "purpose" is the continual spreading of the Obama Derangement Syndrome.
Even I got to admit that you spread the ODS word pretty good. Creative in your complaints.

 

[rightwinger]

And a lot of stupidity, come to think of it.

Evidently not

There was a lot of uncertainty in 2008. The economy was on the brink of collapse. If the banks failed, we would go into depression. If the auto companies failed, we would lose a major part of our industrial base. 700,000 people a month were losing their jobs.

Hope and change paid off

Really? So, those 6 million people who lost their insurance would be dying to tell you that it paid off? What about our ailing vets? You're serious aren't you?

Six million people did not lose their health insurance. It is a rightwing myth that refuses to die

In fact, 10 million plus now have health coverage through federal or state programs. Do you?

 

[Votto]

Evidently not

There was a lot of uncertainty in 2008. The economy was on the brink of collapse. If the banks failed, we would go into depression. If the auto companies failed, we would lose a major part of our industrial base. 700,000 people a month were losing their jobs.

Hope and change paid off

So you endorse corporate socialism?

Haven't seen it yet

What are you blabbering about? The tax payer has become the corporate insurance policy. They are simply too big to fail. Well I got news for you. All of these corporations that send trillions of dollars into Washington and pay poor folk like Hillary Clinton hundreds of thousands of dollars to give a speech would not be as missed as you think they would.

Even though progressives like you rail against corporate America day and night, the truth is revealed in posts like this. The engine behind the progressive movement is the wealth created by corporate America. Corporations are nothing more than a government creation. In fact, corporations are nothing more than mini governments themselves. They become so wealthy and powerful that making money becomes secondary to control issues.

Progressives have taken the approach Hitler did. Hitler once said, "Why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the people?" Hitler did not own corporate Germany in name, but he certainly pulled their strings.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Holy shit! What are you doing wasting your talents here. A thing of beauty like that needs to be published. Have you tried The New Yorker? Maybe Backpage?

I would thank you for that if I didn't already know how sarcastic you were with me just then.

The New Yorker isn't bad though... and Backpage not a very nice place to publish anything other than classifieds. It is a cheap and lecherous knockoff of Craigslist. In fact, I should neg you for even suggesting Backpage. How utterly revolting.

I actually have a MUCH better suggestion as to where you publish your rants.

Have them printed on toilet paper. Yep that's right. Something as funny and stupid as the shit you write should be used for ass wiping and flushing.

That is all the good your "writings" offer. But even toilet paper has a purpose. You on the other hand........I don't think so.

Unless your "purpose" is the continual spreading of the Obama Derangement Syndrome.
Even I got to admit that you spread the ODS word pretty good. Creative in your complaints.

Zeke, thy name is cognitive dissonant. Now, I invite you to take your garbage and go eat it elsewhere.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Evidently not

There was a lot of uncertainty in 2008. The economy was on the brink of collapse. If the banks failed, we would go into depression. If the auto companies failed, we would lose a major part of our industrial base. 700,000 people a month were losing their jobs.

Hope and change paid off

Really? So, those 6 million people who lost their insurance would be dying to tell you that it paid off? What about our ailing vets? You're serious aren't you?

Six million people did not lose their health insurance. It is a rightwing myth that refuses to die

In fact, 10 million plus now have health coverage through federal or state programs. Do you?

Yet, I don't see you disproving the former or substantiating the latter. I challenge you to do both.

 

[rightwinger]

So you endorse corporate socialism?

Haven't seen it yet

What are you blabbering about? The tax payer has become the corporate insurance policy. They are simply too big to fail. Well I got news for you. All of these corporations that send trillions of dollars into Washington and pay poor folk like Hillary Clinton hundreds of thousands of dollars to give a speech would not be as missed as you think they would.

Socialism controls the means of production and labor

You are not even close

 

[Samson]

The immigration situation has you this down, yet 9/11/01, New Orleans underwater, and thousands of Americans dead & maimed to find weapons that didn't exist were BRIGHT spots in our history? I see hope, 5 and a half years without disasters that claimed thousands of lives and cost trillions.

Maybe this will start a trend, our next President can improve the economy, and we stay on the road to "normalcy".

Obama had to be President to prevent terrorists attacks and hurricanes?


Why couldn't he have simply ducked into a phone booth, changed into his tights and cape, and done these things?

 

[rightwinger]

Really? So, those 6 million people who lost their insurance would be dying to tell you that it paid off? What about our ailing vets? You're serious aren't you?

Six million people did not lose their health insurance. It is a rightwing myth that refuses to die

In fact, 10 million plus now have health coverage through federal or state programs. Do you?

Yet, I don't see you disproving the former or substantiating the latter. I challenge you to do both.

The GOP claim that more Americans have lost insurance than gained it under Obamacare - The Washington Post

In reality, many people who received notices that their plans were canceled were told they would be automatically enrolled into another plan by the same insurance company. (Here’s an example of such a letter, courtesy of our colleagues at PolitiFact.)

In other words, the person’s health plan was “canceled” but the person was not left “without coverage,” as the Daily Caller asserted. There likely was a seamless transition from one plan to the other, though the premiums might have increased because the ACA requires all plans to have the same basic level of benefits.

 

[Freewill]

Yeah, there was a lot of that in 2008. The air was filled with it. I was 20 years old that year and I can remember riding around in the car with my grandmother through this booming college town of Athens Georgia and seeing so many dorms and houses adorned with the Obama campaign slogan and logo. You see, Athens is a mainly liberal city, the paper leans left, lots of the professors at UGA are Democrats. But anyways, so many people had hope then. As hard right as I was then, even I couldn't help but think "maybe this Obama guy won't be so bad. He's given this country hope again." I voted for John McCain in my very first presidential election, however.

I stayed up all night the day before the inauguration, so I could see Bush ride off into the sunset and see Obama, the man who brought so much hope to this country arrive to lead the nation. A little voice, though, kept saying, "looks can be deceiving, this hope has been offered by many a president before. " Little was I aware that in the coming 6 years, the little voice was right. Hope is a fleeting thing, but it draws the soul like a super magnet. Emotions and rational thought can sometimes be buried in hope. Hope, it seems, is also easily exploitable by men and women who would seek to run for president.

When 2010 came along, I could sense a change in the country's mood. Perhaps they felt as if they made a mistake in giving the Democrats so much power two years prior, that November, the Democrats were crushed in the mid-terms, barely holding on to the Senate. However, that mood dissipated, because just two years later, Obama was re-elected again. He didn't campaign on hope this time, but a newfangled health care law he signed into law. At that moment, I felt as if the man was invincible, much to my dismay. At that moment, I felt in my heart that there was no more hope for this great country of ours.

Many people of my worldview then saw how much Obama ill thought of the Constitution he swore to uphold. I thought, "Just another president who broke his oath. When will there ever be a president elected who will uphold our Constitution as he promises?" However, the year 2013 came along. That year would wind up breaking the Obama presidency, eroding the hope people once had in it. The faith was gone. As the scandals broke out, as the once hailed healthcare law took effect and fell flat on it's face; many people began questioning the choice they made those five short years ago. They began to ask "is there any hope for us?" More and more people began to lose the hope they once had in the man who seemingly had it in abundant supply. As this year came along, I could see that there was no more hope for the Democrats. It had by then evaporated.

As the month of July rolls past in this year 2014, we now know where that hope has gone. It was nothing more than a lie, lofted on the wind for those in far away places. There was no hope, well, not for us at least. As we have tens of thousands of illegals flooding our border, we see now that it is America who has no hope; instead those who think of it as merely a place to gain without sacrifice, live without hardship, and work without any burden. But it will not take long for them to soon realize, as we have already--there is no more hope. Perhaps then, the human soul will provide that hope, instead of silver tongued politicians who carry hope on their sleeves and not in their hearts.

The immigration situation has you this down, yet 9/11/01, New Orleans underwater, and thousands of Americans dead & maimed to find weapons that didn't exist were BRIGHT spots in our history? I see hope, 5 and a half years without disasters that claimed thousands of lives and cost trillions.

Maybe this will start a trend, our next President can improve the economy, and we stay on the road to "normalcy".

Have not read the other posts but I am sure it has been pointed out to you that Katrina was not a man made disaster no matter what the Bush haters say. 9/11 was a man made disaster created by OBL and largely planned on Clinton's watch. As for the war in Iraq, it could have been a bright spot but the liberal left would have none of it. They don't care about Kurd children or the Marsh Arab children being killed by Saddam. They don't care about all Iraqi women getting to vote. No, they cared more about using the war for their political agenda, by putting it down in every form possible I believe it makes up for their guilt for never serving. BTW, unlike Hillary and Kerry I would have voted no for war, but once gone I will be damned if I would do what the left has done.

How you can even make a comparison between those three events and the man made humanitarian disaster at our border is anyone's guess.

 

[zeke]

I would thank you for that if I didn't already know how sarcastic you were with me just then.

The New Yorker isn't bad though... and Backpage not a very nice place to publish anything other than classifieds. It is a cheap and lecherous knockoff of Craigslist. In fact, I should neg you for even suggesting Backpage. How utterly revolting.

I actually have a MUCH better suggestion as to where you publish your rants.

Have them printed on toilet paper. Yep that's right. Something as funny and stupid as the shit you write should be used for ass wiping and flushing.

That is all the good your "writings" offer. But even toilet paper has a purpose. You on the other hand........I don't think so.

Unless your "purpose" is the continual spreading of the Obama Derangement Syndrome.
Even I got to admit that you spread the ODS word pretty good. Creative in your complaints.

Zeke, thy name is cognitive dissonant. Now, I invite you to take your garbage and go eat it elsewhere.

ODS got you down this morning? What a shame.

You know what my Mom says; If you can't be happy, be productive.

You should try it. You definitely seem to be an unhappy Obama Derangement Syndrome person.

Oops. Almost time for work. How about you? Got a fucking J O B yet?

 

[Votto]

Haven't seen it yet

What are you blabbering about? The tax payer has become the corporate insurance policy. They are simply too big to fail. Well I got news for you. All of these corporations that send trillions of dollars into Washington and pay poor folk like Hillary Clinton hundreds of thousands of dollars to give a speech would not be as missed as you think they would.

Socialism controls the means of production and labor

You are not even close

So there is no corporate control? Is that why small businesses go belly up when Wal Mart moves into towns across the country? Is that why corporate America was bailed out while small businesses where left to go belly up? Sure, you have the freedom to compete against WalMart while trying to overcome all the regulations and taxations while trying to provide lower prices than WalMart.

All socialism proved, in its strictest definition, is that government is unable to run a business effectively. That is why we have the Hitler version instead. It is an evolving collectivist ideology. In the end, all that matters is centralized control and what methods are the best to attain this new world order. That is why communist China flirts with capitalism. They did not do it because they like economic freedom, they did it to enhance and empower their own despotic control over the masses, and it worked.